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help needed from doctors -- Need to verify the medicine | From dallasMom [Log on to view profile] | on 2008-03-26 |
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Hello everyone,
My son has developed weezing issue from last year. He is 4 now. This becomes when he is congested. And congestion can be due to any reason, main being Allergies. The moment he is congested withina day or two he starts coughing and weezing. This follows with heavy breathing. We consulted a doctor in India and started his homeopathy treatment. He gave some medicine(he wont tell the name as he said its a combination) and that did help my child to some extent. Initially he use to be sick every 2 weeks but after starting homeopathy it was once a month. I forgot to mention, as and when he starts weezing we have to give him nebulizer(Albitrol & pulmicort).
But since it was still ongoing & we still kept on giving albitrol, he said to give following medicines when we see signs of weezing.
I just want to make sure, I am giving my child the right thing. As this doctor does not talk much, but my husband and his family always go to him for their problems and have always gotten positive results, so they believe him very much.
The names of medicines are
11) Senega-Q
2) Aralia-R-Q
3) Eriody-Q
4) Sam-N-Q
5) Pothos-Q
All these are liquid and we have to mix 10 drops each in 100 mol water and give him 1tsp every hour.
I would love to hear what you think about this.
Note: he also has a clogged tear duct in his left eye because of which tears keep coming from the eye every now and then.
Thanks!
-a worried mom |
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| Re: help needed from doctors -- Need to verify the medicine | From deoshlok [Log on to view profile] | on 2008-03-26 |
this mixed mediceine will not help for long time... try the following prescription..
1. weekly one dose of Morgan Bac 1M i.e. every sunday morning...
2. Kali mur 6x 2 tab thrice in a day
3. Argent nit 30c three times in a day (will cure your eye problem) (do not give on sunday)
this will continue till get the complete cure...
no. 1 will be continue for 1 year for permanant cure from this disease... | | |
| Re: help needed from doctors -- Need to verify the medicine | From sameervermani [Log on to view profile] | on 2008-03-26 |
I warn you against this prescription.
Single potency continued for 3 months is against all principles of homeopathy and so is giving 3 medicines simultaneously.
Sameer | | |
| Re: help needed from doctors -- Need to verify the medicine | From PANKAJ VARMA [Log on to view profile] | on 2008-03-26 |
Gavini Murthy ?? | | |
| Re: help needed from doctors -- Need to verify the medicine | From moderator [Log on to view profile] | on 2008-03-26 |
Pankaj,
Murthy has not been banned, he could post here under that ID if he wanted.
The peace would be better upheld if you could confine your rebuttal to what has been said, rather than who may have said it.
Best Wishes,
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| Re: help needed from doctors -- Need to verify the medicine | From PANKAJ VARMA [Log on to view profile] | on 2008-03-27 |
Dear Simon,
I don't think I said "I don't agree".
I would not recommend a med for three months either.
So ...ultimaltely every thing boils down to self created preceptions....rather than evaluation of what is there "on the table" .
Pankaj Varma | | |
| Re: help needed from doctors -- Need to verify the medicine | From PANKAJ VARMA [Log on to view profile] | on 2008-03-27 |
Dallasmom,
In the past we have seen that quality of advice given by Dr. Deoshlok is far superior compared to advice given by some of the new members.
Besides, Dr. Deoshlok is a qualified homeopath.
Best wishes
Pankaj Varma | | |
| Re: help needed from doctors -- Need to verify the medicine | From dallasMom [Log on to view profile] | on 2008-03-27 |
Hi Dr. Deoshlok,
Just few questions. I understand that the medication you said is to be given on daily basis. Except no.1 which is weekly. But should I give anything special when he has one of his "coughing spells".
What we have noticed in the past is that his immunity has increased a little and he doesnt fall sick as often, but when he falls sick, his coughing is bad and breathing becomes heavy. (like an Asthma attack) and that is when we are forced to give him albutrol & pulmicort. This settles him down a bit. But we have to continue giving him for 4-5 days every 4 hrs. I do not want to give him these medicines and which is why I am asking, about how to control the situation where he has lot of coughing. Please let know.
And thak you everyone for responding. I really appreciate all the help.
-a mom. | | |
| Re: help needed from doctors -- Need to verify the medicine | From gavinimurthy [Log on to view profile] | on 2008-03-27 |
It is high time for all to know that all the people who read Organon and understood it correctly will have the same line of thinking and their posts when contradicing the advices given by the followers of 'modern' school sound the same.
As Simon suggested,instead of wondering about the person making the post, try to concentrate on the subject matter and let your opinion be known.
Don't assume that each and everybody who seem to echo my views is none other than me. :-)
Murthy | | |
| Re: help needed from doctors -- Need to verify the medicine | From deoshlok [Log on to view profile] | on 2008-03-27 |
mr gvnmurty,
where is your organon one doctor was prescribed the following
The names of medicines are
11) Senega-Q
2) Aralia-R-Q
3) Eriody-Q
4) Sam-N-Q
5) Pothos-Q
which is beeter weekly one dose or morgan bac or above one..
Morgan bac is a increasing immunity against asthma, cold , sneezing 3000 patient are cured pls read murphy matteria medica...
I cured more than 150 patient of asthma..
Please write us how many you cured this type of cases...
Only you came here to distrub to the suffere..
Only you came here to get the noble prize not to help the patient..
dr.deoshlok sharma | | |
| Re: help needed from doctors -- Need to verify the medicine | From deoshlok [Log on to view profile] | on 2008-03-27 |
Hi Dr. Deoshlok,
Just few questions. I understand that the medication you said is to be given on daily basis. Except no.1 which is weekly. But should I give anything special when he has one of his "coughing spells".
What we have noticed in the past is that his immunity has increased a little and he doesnt fall sick as often, but when he falls sick, his coughing is bad and breathing becomes heavy. (like an Asthma attack) and that is when we are forced to give him albutrol & pulmicort. This settles him down a bit. But we have to continue giving him for 4-5 days every 4 hrs. I do not want to give him these medicines and which is why I am asking, about how to control the situation where he has lot of coughing. Please let know.
And thak you everyone for responding. I really appreciate all the help.
-a mom.
Dear,
no. 1 medicine you have to continue for long time fore complete cure other wise from dust, ice , change of wether etc..
when at that time of coughing you can gice Ipeacac 30 2 hrly or 3 hrly , try to gie warm water during attack of cough..
go on continue.. pls don,t be confused...
dr.deoshlok sharma | | |
| Re: help needed from doctors -- Need to verify the medicine | From sameervermani [Log on to view profile] | on 2008-03-27 |
Hello Murthy :) How are you ?
And, Mr. Deoshlok, the number of patients you cured/supressed does not matter to us. If a prescription is totally against principles of homeopathy, we have to warn the patient. Whether or not he still choses to go with your prescription is solely his prerogative.
Sameer | | |
| Re: help needed from doctors -- Need to verify the medicine | From deoshlok [Log on to view profile] | on 2008-03-27 |
Mr. Sameer,
what is your qualification pls show the forum user , where is your clinic, show to your medical regd. certificate
dr. deoshlok sharma | | |
| Re: help needed from doctors -- Need to verify the medicine | From sameervermani [Log on to view profile] | on 2008-03-27 |
Dallsmom,
Now I have to tell you, there is a nexus of "resident prescribers" here who feel insecure when someone in superior knowledge tends to question their wild prescriptions. Besides, what happened in the past is that these so called "qualified" homeopaths have been giving all manner of baseless prescriptions, and they just try to build up a record plate of sorts of the "number" of cases they have prescribed for. It is very easy to make baseless prescriptions for 100 cases, and it is probably more difficult to make an informed prescription after full analysis for even 1.
Hence, do not go by the number of patients these people 'claim' to have treated. It is just a crutch for their half baked knowledge where they put up trophies for "number of patients treated" to ward off criticism for their baseless prescriptions.
In the end, however, you have to make an informed choice, and I would recommend you reading some good books by old masters like Kent or Hanemann himself, and you will see the frivolousness of the prescriptions being made.
A single potency of any remedy continued for this long, is bound to give accessory symptoms and it is even more dangerous if it is any way close to being the correct remedy. Without making any claims about my qualifications, or the number of clases I have solved, I will just justify using the words of the founder of homeopathy. Truth does not need any crutches to stand on.
I point you to Aphorism 242 of the organon
Vide aphorism 242 of the 4th Organon.
The Single Unit Dose
"As long, therefore, as the progressive improvement continues from the medicine administered, so long we can take for granted that the duration of the action of the helpful medicine, in this case at least, continues, and hence all repetition of any dose of medicine is forbidden."
The same point is also stressed in Aphorism 245.
"Even one dose of the same medicine which has up to now proved beneficial, if repeated before the improvement has begun to stand still in every direction, will, like an untimely interference, only aggravate the state....."
Now, I am open to any ideas provided someone here just uses LOGIC and REASON like I have to justify my point. No crutches and trophies please :)
Sameer. | | |
| Re: help needed from doctors -- Need to verify the medicine | From deoshlok [Log on to view profile] | on 2008-03-27 |
Information given in this forum is given by way of exchange of views only. It is not to be treated as a medical diagnosis, and should not be used as a substitute for seeing a qualified homeopath or physician. In most cases, advice posted here is not given by a medical expert.
If symptoms persist, consult a medical professional.
by abchomeopathy.com | | |
| Re: help needed from doctors -- Need to verify the medicine | From gavinimurthy [Log on to view profile] | on 2008-03-28 |
Despite repeated requests by the moderator people still tend to attack persons instead of letting their opinions known about the subject and leave it at that.
I refuse to enter into any controversies except to reiterate that those who don't follow the basics of 'Organon' are very likely to harm the patient.
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| Re: help needed from doctors -- Need to verify the medicine | From PANKAJ VARMA [Log on to view profile] | on 2008-03-28 |
Sameer and Murthy,
Stop attacking people (as moderator has said) and answer Dr. Deoshlok's questions about your qualifications and experience.
Are you guys assuming that in a College of Homeopathy ...with a five year course (common in India) ...they are not teaching them about the Organon ?????
How silly !!!!!!!
Pankaj Varma | | |
| Re: help needed from doctors -- Need to verify the medicine | From sameervermani [Log on to view profile] | on 2008-03-28 |
You used the word "silly" and is now a personal remark, as always started by you. :)
We are just questioning the prescription. Why can't you defend the prescription without getting personal ?
Sameer | | |
| Re: help needed from doctors -- Need to verify the medicine | From sameervermani [Log on to view profile] | on 2008-03-28 |
"Are you guys assuming that in a College of Homeopathy ...with a five year course (common in India) ...they are not teaching them about the Organon ????? "
Yes, ofcourse it would seem so because if someone understood the Organon, how come he/she does not know the aphorisms above and these two:
Organon aphorism §272
In the treatment of disease, only one SIMPLE medicinal substance should be used at a time.
Organon aphorism §273
It is impossible to conceive why there should be the least doubt as to whether it is more natural and rational to prescribe a single well-known medicine at a time for a disease, or to give a mixture composed of several different medicines.
Now, go on justify , don't get personal :)
Sameer | | |
| Re: help needed from doctors -- Need to verify the medicine | From PANKAJ VARMA [Log on to view profile] | on 2008-03-28 |
Sameer,
Have you done any program in a College of Homeopathy ?????
Pankaj Varma | | |
| Re: help needed from doctors -- Need to verify the medicine | From sameervermani [Log on to view profile] | on 2008-03-28 |
That is none of your business :) | | |
| Re: help needed from doctors -- Need to verify the medicine | From PANKAJ VARMA [Log on to view profile] | on 2008-03-28 |
Sameer,
Re: Mental symptoms: I think all the time, instead of act! From sameervermani on 2008-03-23
You are funny :)
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That is what you said on another thread on 23-03-2008...so watch your words before asking others to do so.
Pankaj Varma | | |
| Re: help needed from doctors -- Need to verify the medicine | From sameervermani [Log on to view profile] | on 2008-03-28 |
Justify the prescription. I dont want any argument except the point being made above "The above prescription is against the pricniples of Organon",
If you think this statement is not true, justify against it , otherwise I will not respond to any of your posts.
I have proved that the prescription was against the writings of "Organon" and my job is done.
Good Bye, because I know you cannot justify the above prescription.
Sameer. | | |
| Re: help needed from doctors -- Need to verify the medicine | From PANKAJ VARMA [Log on to view profile] | on 2008-03-28 |
Re: help needed from doctors -- Need to verify the medicine From sameervermani on 2008-03-28
That is none of your business :)
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That is the answer of a person who is coming here for personal glory and does not have the interest of the patient as paramount.
Pankaj Varma | | |
| Re: help needed from doctors -- Need to verify the medicine | From PANKAJ VARMA [Log on to view profile] | on 2008-03-28 |
Be careful From deoshlok on 2008-03-27
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Before going to take medicine pls check the authentic In most cases, advice posted at abchomeopathic.com is not given by a medical expert. Lot of person comes here to enjoy and disturb to others.
Dr. deoshlok Sharma | | |
| Re: help needed from doctors -- Need to verify the medicine | From sameervermani [Log on to view profile] | on 2008-03-28 |
The above prescription is against the principles of Organon |
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