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Fatty liver-permanent cure??

Is there a permanent cure for digestive problems due to what homeopath doctor is saying fatty liver(although LFT are within range but on the higher side).main complaints-diarrhea after spicy,heavy food, appetite reduced, loss of weight,headaches,sore throat.Currently taking lycopodium 200,arsenic album 30,china 30
 
  vikram_bansal1978 on 2004-11-21
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
Since you are already under care of homeopathic dr IN PERSON (so much better than on-line) there is not much sense in starting another treatment.
I personally do not like giving more than one remedy at a time- you really have no way of knowing if any of the remedies you take are doing any good.
but Vikram "too many cooks spoil the broth" - maybe your homeopath knows something that we don't.

you may want to read about phosphorus and talk about this remedy with your hom.-but do not start the self-treatent now!
 
Astra2012 last decade
Liver complication as a result of spicy food......I think you should be taking Nux. Vomica.

Talk to your homeopath.
Best,
Pankaj varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
i have five phos 6x four tablets after breakfast....pankaj have been advised nux vomca+pulsatilla on occurence of diarrhea...the rest are daily doses
 
vikram_bansal1978 last decade
Five Phos doesn't help much in liver problems....from the Bio-chemics....it is NATRUM SULPH....take 6X.(Four times a day).


NUX VOMICA + PULSATILLA,...nothing wrong with it....did you try?

Best,
Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Nux+Puls..

Does it mean taken together?

Sorry.Pankaj.I can't stop asking these silly questions.

Murthy
 
bandarbabu2000 last decade
Murthy,
His doctor must have given him a way out.

Let us respect the Doctor as well.
All I meant was that the choice of Nux Vomica nad Pulsatilla is okay.

We have to ask Vikram the dosage and frequency his doctor has recommended
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
dosage is 3 a day when acute problem occurs as in unformed stools
 
vikram_bansal1978 last decade
HMMMMM...First of all I would question the fatty liver diagnosis. Sooooo many things can cause digestion problems. However, if it is a "fatty" liver, then Flaxseed oil is the cure! (but it would also be wise to continually detox your liver with a steady diet of shredded beets on your salad and lemon juice in your water!)
Read Dr. Johanna Budwig's booklet on flaxseed oil..."Flax Oil as a True Aid Against Arthritis, Heart Infraction, Cancer and Other Diseases". Flax oil ("good" fat) flushes excess "bad" fats from the body. It is amazing how this product has worked for me. Now her research (Dr. Budwig is "Europe's best selling author on fats & oil...a seven time nobel prize nominee and is considered by many to be "the" foremost authority on fats and healing".
Dr. Budwig toured Barlean's factory and approved of their processing methods. So...
mix Barleans High Lignan Flax Oil (shake well to mix the lignans in the bottle) with organic cottage cheese. Start with 1 teaspoon per day and increase by 1 teaspoon every 2-3 days until you reach a maximum of 3 tablespoons daily. (3 teaspoons = 1 tablespoon). Let the oil and the cottage cheese stand for 5 mintues before eating giving the sulfur proteins (amino acids) methionine and cysteine time to break through the fatty acid chain so the body's cells can absorbe the EFAs (essential fatty acids)..essential means you have to get it from your food; that your body doesn't make EFAs. Other sources would be avacados, nuts and seeds. Anyway, IF you health problem is fatty liver, then this will solve the problem (provided your diet consists of minimal amount of saturated "bad" fats; eat organic butter instead of margerine, etc.) Fats ARE essential to good health, provided they are "good" fats. Take Vitamin E to combat any "bad" toxic fats.
Even if you don't have "fatty" liver, this treatment will help with your digestion and GI health.
Otherwise, do what the doctor says!
Sincerely.
Christian
 
christian last decade
Too many remedies here. Muddy picture.
Phos is likely but leave aside spicy heavy diet - stick to bland foods.
 
passkey last decade
Passkey...
There is only one remedy here...Flaxseed oil!!! The remainder is an explanation of how to take it and references for people to self-educate themselves about flaxseed oil as it relates to essential fatty acids. Flaxseed oil is "good" fat (most people know "good" fat as "essential fatty acids" (EFAs)). Essential because it is "required" by the body and because it can only be acquired through food sources; the body doesn't make EFAs. The food source that is highest in EFAs IS FLAXSEED OIL!

The only other suggestion I made was to eat foods that are "known" to detoxify the liver!

Spicey foods do not CAUSE fatty liver! It is a strong possibility that the "patient" gets dirrahea after eating spicy foods and has ongoing digestion/GI problems is due to a diet of too many acidic foods. From what I have read (and subsequently experienced for myself) is that a diet or a meal of only acidic foods will cause all kinds of GI problems! Ones plate should contain 80% alkaline foods and only 20% acidic foods! We need to maintain an balanced pH!
Also, if the diet does not contain enough alkaline foods or supplementation of the carbonic salts calcium, magnesium, sodium, & potassium (which maintain our cells osmosity) then the toxic acid ash waste (remaining residue from ALL foods) will not be "neutralized" and consequently CANNOT be removed from the body via urinary tract or GI system because it would be too poisonous!. If one retains large amounts of acid toxic waste from foods or prescription drugs, etc., then it is stored in the body and eventually can lead to cell death throughout the body (the cause of many diseases today)! This is my theory for the cause of fibromyalgia...stored acid toxic waste in muscle tissue.

Passkey...therefore, if you have questions about what I post, please ask.

I won't just throw a suggestion onto the table without adequate information to aid in a well-informed decision. Also, many products are not either manufactured correctly, are not using the right materials or the "patient" doesn't take it properly, all from a lack of knowledge! therefore, I am always very detailed when I make suggestions (not to mention the fact that in my past life I was a systems analyst!)

Open to comment,
Christian
 
christian last decade
Hello Christian,
I have learned about dr Budwig only recently and tell everybody around about it!

Instead of oil though I use and advise freshly ground flaxseeds - is that ok?
I just save myself from remembering which oil exactly is right-and seeds sre definitely less processed.

(I believe paasskey was refering to posts before yours-recommending many remedies)
 
Astra2012 last decade
Hello Astra!
Sorry I addressed you, Passkey, if you were not directing your input to my post.

Astra...Dr. Budwig said in her book that flaxseeds are useless as your body cannot extract the oil from the seeds and they just pass through the digestive system intact! (I suppose the ruffage affect is astrAnomical though!).

I did read something about how to extract the oil from the seeds and did it but alot of seeds yeild little oil and alot of trouble.

Nice to hear from you.
Christian
 
christian last decade
Darn! So seeds (freshly ground to almost dust!) do not work? Not the whole thing- but first they get ground.
Are you sure?

I do not have cancer or any disease but on one site I read that if one has it and goes on Budwig's diet (they wrote more recipes than just oil+cottage cheese)-and then stops it for a while there is no going back. all the good that it did will be un-done.

I don't think so.
Do you know anything about that?
 
Astra2012 last decade
Ground flax should work just as well or better, from my perspective...it adds the soluble fiber lacking in most diets!
Loree
 
loree last decade
THANK YOU Loree! I thought so-and it seems logical. Sure-the body can't get oil from um-cracked seeds--but after they are ground?
 
Astra2012 last decade
Your diet lacks the fibre that is required for proper bowel movement.Flax seeds adds the bulk and helps in easier bowel movement.

It is not used to get benefit from its oil.

In fact,most vegeterian food,and vegetable salads add the necessary fibre.That is why in India the colon cancer cases are so low,compared to the west.

Murthy
 
bandarbabu2000 last decade
Hello everybody who has comments on "flax seeds" and/or flaxseed oil...
I read, what I believed to be at the time, all available literature on essential fatty acids in flaxseeds and other oils and followed all the advise in these reading materials as well as that of many physicians, but, none of the healing "miracles" promised were ever manifested. Instead I became more ill...until!!! Dr. Budwig's book was translated into English, made available in the U.S.A. and I read it. After reading her book and a Good Health Guide booklet titled "Flaxeed (Linseed) Oil and the Power of Omega-3", "How to make nature's cholesterol fighters work for you" by Ingeborg M. Johnston, C.N. and James R.Johston, PhD., I then understood the many healing properties of essential fatty acids, especially from flaxseeds. But what was most important was learning how to benefit from the EFAs in the flaxseed OIL. How does one benefit from the EFAs in flaxseed oil? By mixing it with the cottage cheese so the fatty acid chain is broken and the CELLS CAN ABOSRB THE EFAs! BECAUSE if the body's cells don't absorb the EFAs (the good fat) from the oil then it becomes toxic, just like any ole "bad" fat! I had taken the capsules for many years and then I switched to the liquid but not until I read Dr. Budwig's book did I become aware of the absorption requirement.
I think one point that is being overlooked is that the purpose for taking flaxseed OIL is for the healing properties of the ESSENTIAL FATTY ACIDS IN THE OIL of the seeds. NOT the "roughage" factor which is NOT the purpose of flaxseed "oil".
Everything that I have posted regarding reaping the full benefits of the oil requires mixing it with the cottage cheese; this IS THE ONLY WAY THE BODY'S CELLS CAN ABSORB THE EFAs. This information comes directly from Dr. Budwig who:
In 1949 or 1950 picked up the research of 4 prior Nobel Prize WINNERS, who had received the prize based on other scientific discoveries but all of whom had tried to figure out how to get the body to absorb the EFAs from oils and failed! What Dr. Budwig discovered was the cottage cheese "thing", because as I stated in my initial post, cottage cheese contains the two sulfur proteins methionine and cystiene in the highest quantity and in balance and it is these two amino acids that actually break through the fatty acid chain so the cells can absorb the EFAs.
Also, Dr. Budwig is the one who wrote the comment about the uselessness of taking flax SEEDS hoping to achieve the medicinal benefits. The body cannot extract the oil from the seeds. Raw vegetables are the best source of roughage! An apple a day keeps the doctor away, does have credence...other than the roughage factor, the toxins in the colon actually cling to the pectin in apples and are excreted. Pretty cool, huh!
However, there is a method for extracting the oil from the seeds, EXTERNALLY, and then you can use the oil...but, why bother when Barlean's does this for you! The lignans in Barleans Highest Lignan product does help to flush the colon.
Why the preference for flaxseed oil for EFAs over all other seed sources or other oils? Because, as Dr. Budwig wrote, flaxseed oil has the highest content of EFAs over all other seeds or oils!
It really isn't necessary to question me about what Dr. Budwig states. I would suggest your reading her book which would answer all your questions.

As far as "once you stop taking the oil your health reverts to its initial unhealthy state" is debatable. People who are seeking to be healthy, whether to resolve an ill condition or to prevent illness, must also change their entire lifestyle; meaning their eating habits, Rx drug habits, natural remedies, body cleanses, exercise, purified water for drinking and bathing, etc., etc. Our society, the "Western" culture, only wants to address symptoms and don't treat causes of the symptoms (the illness itself) nor does our medical community, including those who practice natural products, treat the "whole" body. Our medical community has branched into "specialists" who only concentrate on one specific organ system...big problem! So, drugs to treat symptoms but seldom heal and surgeries to remove the sick organ are the answers in conventional medicine and herbs, etc, the answer in natural medicines, neither of which can potentially "cure". One has to be concerned with the entire body as it all works together! Hence "(W)Holistic" healing!
So, using flaxseed oil for the benefits of the EFAs to heal a condition, e.g. cancer, heart disease, "fatty liver", etc., requires high doses for agressive treatment. However, when the condition is under control or potentially healed, EFAs are still "essential" but at a moderate daily dose. The body requires 1/3 of its nutrition to be "good" fats! And that's a fact, jack!

Thank you all for your posts; I appreciate your questions. But know this, as stated in my first sentence of this post: I read so much about EFAs from so many different sources as well as from many personal physicians and I "thought" I knew all there was to know until I read the guru's book (Dr. Budwig) who did the reasearch on EFAs for absorption! It continually amazes me how much faulty information seems to be the consensus; it takes alot of reasearch to get to the TRUTH! Also, I have tried so many products as prescribed and recommended by so many "authorities" only to discover that "the proof is in the pudding", so-to-speak. In other words, I've taken so many remedies as "prescribed" or "recommended" and have not had the success expected. Then, for example, I can one day read maybe only one sentence in an entire book that contradicts all the other sources but IS THE KEY!

Oh well, I'm just trying to get well myself and finding information for the right "stuff" and how to use it is not easy! I've discovered this requires alot of research and experimentation.

Open for more....
Christian

P.S. Be careful about the brand of flaxseed oil you purchase. Dr. Budwig acutally toured Barleans factory and approved of their processing methods. Also, be aware that Barleans makes a "special" blend of their flaxseed oil that contains Vitamin C and...well I don't remember what but it's an herb. These were added by special request from The Vitamin Shoppe in order to preseve the oil for longer shelf life. I asked Barleans if these additives would taint the product and they wouldn't tell me but suggested I ask The Vitamin Shoppe. I didn't but took this "adulterated" oil anyway. The results were devastating...these additives did, in fact, alter the medicinal properties of the oil! Also, there are other brands that add other things to the flaxseed oil like Evening Primrose Oil which is not necessary. Don't buy any of these products either. Trust me, you only need the pure high lignan flaxseed oil from Barleans!

Here's to your health!
 
christian last decade
thanks for all the info! Seems like you really know what you are talking about.

I know the point is in having "good" oil absorbed but
1. instead of cottage cheese-couldn't it be yogurt? Isn't the point to "fix" linoleic oil from flaxseeds with sulphur-rich protein in dairy--so yogurt would be good too?
2. Budwig herself spoke of uselessness of flaxseeds. hmm... ground too I suppose. Have YOU ever try it?

How do you buy Barlean oil? On-line or in the store?
 
Astra2012 last decade
Astra,
Well I typed up my response and lost it somehow...now I have to start over...crud!

COTTAGE CHEESE OR YOGURT. Yes. Yogurt is an option. Dr. Budwig uses yogurt (called Quark in Germany; sounds like a wierd bird cry!); however, her research was based on the cottage cheese and this is what she talks about throughout her book. But in her COOKBOOK she mentions Quark! See, cottage cheese has the most balanced and highest content of the sulfur proteins (per Dr. B)...so, your choice.

FLAX SEEDS. I have never been interested in trying to eat the things; I am curious about your obsession with the seeds since they don't get broken down in the body and only pass through the colon "undigested"! (per Dr. B)

WHERE TO BUY BARLEANS FLAXSEED OIL. Most local health food stores in the U.S. carry their products. If you don't have access to local health food stores then I suppose you WOULD have to order by mail but BE CAREFUL! This product is refrigerated and shipping usually subjects the oil to heat, which would adulterate the oils constinuents. (leaving on shipping docks, deliverly trucks, airplanes, etc.) Also those who ship the product may have had Barleans add ingredients to extend the shelf life; hence, more adulteration of the product. The bottles of Barleans' oil show a shelf life of approx. 5 months from the processing date to the use by date so I don't understand adding stuff to extend the shelf-life?!. Nor do I understand why Barleans would do this; of course I do...MONEY!

If you don't have ready access to a store that stocks the oil, I would suggest your contacting Barleans for a solution at www.barleans.com.

HOW TO STORE AND PREPARE FOR USE. By the by, if the lignans are not mixed well with the oil, the "gunky" lignans will remain on the top (if stored upside down as recommended by Barleans; or on the bottom, of course, if stored right side up!). Also, if the oil appears to be a golden brown instead of a rich brown, then the lignans have not been thoroughly mixed.
Be sure to buy the product that is "highest lignan"...not only does this provide some "roughage" but it tastes better (in my opinion). Mixing it with the cottage cheese tastes really good. Be sure to buy "organic" cottage cheese; I prefer the brand "Organic Valley", if its available to you. I also eat raw broccoli with my "mix"; this is very appealing to me. Also, be sure, after mixing the oil with the yogurt or the cottage cheese to let it stand for 5 minutes to achieve the chemical interaction between the oil and the proteins; i.e., giving the proteins ample time to "break through" the fatty acid chains.
Your choice of words "fix" the oil...???

Let me know how you end up getting the product. Good information for everyone.

Are you intending to use it for a "cure" for something specific and potentially fatal or to simply enhance your general health or treat a nonspecific ailment? If for a cure, then high doses is what has been recommended by professionals; starting with a low dose and gradually increasing your intake to a high dose of 5 or more tablespoons daily (according to Udo Erasmus in his book, Fats That Heal, Fats That Kill; by the way, Udo is "not" an advocate of Dr. Budwig!). I don't know anything about high dose treatments; all I know is that I only took 2 tablespoons daily and this worked fine for me in my unhealthy state. After the major results were acheived the standard daily dose of 1 tablespoon is recommended by most doctors. So for general nonspecific "un"healthy or general healthy conditions then, what I did was start with only 1 teaspoon daily and increased the dose by 1 teaspoon every three days until I reached a steady dose of 6 teaspoons (3 tablespoons) as a regular regimen. This product is very cleansing and starting with a high dose could be too difficult to tolerate. I do this with all "new" therapies; start low and work up to tolerance.

MY RESULTS with FLAXSEED OIL THERAPY supported by EXCERPTS FROM DR. BUDWIG'S BOOK: When I took this mixture it IMMEDIATELY relieved my debilitating fatigue; within 30 minutes! The thing is that flaxseed oil is full of the electrical energy our body needs to operate and stay alive(i.e., electrons in our food)! This is the purpose of the EFAs and based on Budwigs scientific knowledge she writes that flaxseed oil has more electrical energy than any other source of EFAs. Dr. Budwig says it this way: A friend of my work in Paris wroteto me how wonderful it is that you have discovered the original birthplace of the electrons in seed oils to be the sun...We must ingest these electrons in our food for the vital functions...thus making us feel lighter in ourselves...When patients of mine--even very sick cancer patients--have, after consultation with me, followed my "Oil-Protein Food Plan" for as little as only one or two days, they, these peole who have never read a single book of mine, and without knowing my theory, come and quite spontaneously report: "I suddenly feel so light in myself, no longer so heavy." Additionally, Dr. B writes: "Anatomically speaking, heart infarction observation studies reveal nothing abnormal in the picture except for solid fat, which encircles the normally lean heart muscle,confining and disturbing the heart's action." She goes on to say, "In rheumatic disease, the only factor which distinguishes the diseased muscles from the healthy ones is isolated fat--a clear "NO!" to this substance." And "At the international...(Congress of Nutrition) in Paris in 1957, 900 expert delegates from countries worldwide heard that the latest research results, in the Cancer Research Institute in Paris--the only research institute equipped with the largest state-of-the-art electron microscope in existence--showed that the only substance which characterised the CANCEROUS CELLS, as opposed to healthy ones, was ISOLATED FAT; the formation of fat in the cell nucleus, cell body and cytoplasm. It was thesingle distinguishing feature of cnacerous cells in contrast to healthy ones." PRETTY CONVINCING, HUH?

So, it's not surprising that another result I experienced with this mixture was that eventually it flushed all the "bad" fats stored in my tissues for years, meaning all the "fatty dimples" (cellulite) on my thighs and buttocks went away...for good! And, since this oil flushes excess bad fats from the body and estrogens are stored in body fats, then it stands to reason that in the process of flushing the bad excess fats from the entire body, it would consequently flush excess estrogens. Therefore I would logically jump to the conculsion that this "flushing of stored fats" mechanism could possibly prevent some or all cancers caused by excess estrogens!? What do you think about that?

Anyway, I highly recommend everyone read Dr. Budwig's book!

Sincerely,
Christian
 
christian last decade
Thank you Christian.(and thank you for writing after losing your post-that takes a lot of patience!As I said I just learned about it-it is incredible!-and to top it all here you are knowing so much .).

Cheese differs in different countries- I mean she might call "cottage cheese" what is a farmer cheese or riccotta here in the usa. And would it matter at all?


yes, the whole seeds get undigested (that's one of the ways seeds are spread in nature!) but I ground them first!

Why do I prefer seeds to oil made from them?: the less something is prepared and processed the better (in my book). Seeds are whole - so I definitely trust them more.
Nobody will adulterate seeds to add time to their shelf life. They are freshly ground-so no oil in them gets rancid (if you buy it in the store some of the oil is already oxygenated - wasted- even within the shelf life).

"fix" linoleic acid by protein=prepare it for absorption

I doubt if everyone would read Budwig's book-unfortunately-but I'm going to make sure as many people read your posts as I can make.

People are so tired of wonder drugs and miraculous therapies... Do you think all of the needy would believe in it? Just too simple.

I was at Barlean site-one of the stores is right here-10 min of WALKING distance. I got my seeds there.
I just want to feed my body the right stuff but know many people with some diseases, cancers, diabetes, others. Most of them already knows - those whom I had a chance to tell about it-still I wonder about seeds vs oil.

Lucky me, I wouldn't mind it -but most people (except seriously ill) ask if you do not gain weight on this therapy!
 
Astra2012 last decade
Are you saying that Udo Erasmus doesn't support Budwig's findings?
 
Astra2012 last decade
hello, Christian! thank you for your flaxseed oil suggestion. i read somewhere that it is the sulphur content in the cottage cheese which made Dr. Budwig combine it with the FlaxSeed oil. on busy days may i instead take the MSM with Vit. C capsules together with the FlaxSeed Oil? thanks!!
 
creamfudge last decade
Christian, I meant MSM with Vitamin C capsules and Flax Seed Oil Capsules as well. thanks!!
 
creamfudge last decade
For Cremfudge,

What is MSM ? Pls describe it.
 
Mohan last decade
What about biochemic Kali sulph?
 
Logical last decade

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