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nullifying agents

dear friends,
i have some doubts about the substances that generally act against homeopathic remedies.
kindly tell me whether the following will nullify or badly affect the action of homeopathic remedies in general:
lime or lemon juice, coriander seeds and leaves, fenugreek, ginger, cardamom, cuminseed, red onion, curry leaves and a heavily spiced indian curry.

hoping your responses,
thahir.
 
  pcthahir on 2008-01-29
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Lime or lemon juice: no, unless used in excess.
Coriander seeds and leaves, cumin seeds: not ordinarily.
Red Onion: no, if cooked.
Fenugreek, ginger, cardamom, and curry leaves: most definitely.
Heavily spiced Indian curry: all heavily spiced foods should be avoided.
 
Mr Organon last decade
Make sure that your mouth, your surroundings, and your body are free of odors while taking the medicine.

Avoid eating food, taking coffee for half an hour after taking the medicine.

Eat anything you want afterwards.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
Yes, Murthy is correct.

Spicy food doesnt really affect anything, as long as it is not take immediately after the remedy . Otherwise no one in India would benefit from homeopathy :)

We Indians surely do eat some spices :D. Ginger is used in almost all the Indian curries.
 
sameervermani last decade
This has not been my experience, nor was it Hahnemann's recommendation. anything which has a strong medicinal action should not be included in the diet while under Homoeopathic care, and this apllies to strong spices. You cannot properley manifest symptoms if you are ingesting other substances which cause their own.
 
Mr Organon last decade
also, of course if you ingest such things every day, you would not be aware of how they affect the health, as this would be 'mixed' with your real symptoms. In the west we do not include so much spice in the daily diet, and consequently when we do ingest them, their very real affects are noticed. Frequent ingestion though does not make one immune to their effects.
 
Mr Organon last decade
Our experience is different. The 'normal' diet, which we are used to routinely will not antidote homeopathic remedies.

Spicy food is the norm for Indians, and there is no point in restricting it.

More over, If you are using the fifth edition split dose methods, there need not be any fear of antidoting, as the dose is renewed daily.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
This is a matter of debate.

I would argue that the everyday ingestion of anything with a medicinal effect is not harmful to the health in the long term.

These things do not 'antidote' the remedy, they intefere with proper reaction, as is the case for strong smells, crude coffee and peppermint etc, so it isn't a case of the dosing technique employed. Only substances which are actually listed as antidotes to a remedy will indeed antidote them.
 
Mr Organon last decade
I have personally never had any problems while treating my family or any of my patients (and most of them have been Indians) eating anything which is their normal diet. Ofcourse, if someone is not used to spicy food, it might be a different scenario.

Homeopathic remedies work and keep working regardless of the spices in the food if that is normal diet for someone.
 
sameervermani last decade
Each to their own 'opinion' then. I guess it all comes down to our experince of what actually constitues cure. Personally though, I will always recommend these things are avoided when under Homoeopathic treatment, whether 'normal' to the patient or not. My own experience in this area aside, Hahnemann rarely stated things without good reason.
 
Mr Organon last decade
The thing is , saying to an Indian 'Don't eat spices !' is not a practical thing. It's like killing his taste buds.

He just can't eat if he doesn't eat spices.

Especially, if the person is a food lover , the abstinence from good food might do him more damage from a psychological point of view. He will start feeling sick.

Murthy must know the blandness of eating spiceless boiled rice and lentils (khichdhi). Indians eat such food when they have indigestion , and never otherwise. :)

To each their own , yes, and I have no doubt , to Indians, just Indian food :)
 
sameervermani last decade
Only because his taste buds have already been somewhat 'killed' by the frequent use of such spices, so they are needed to satiate the purely aesthetic need for flavour.

I find this odd, as health comes first, not a need for flavouring in one's food.

Possibly initially, but he will 'get used to it', once such noxious substances are removed.

We would not consider this so 'bland' in the west, because we do not rely upon such highly spiced foods, which is afterall, only habit.

I am also not suggesting ALL spices are removed from the diet, as should be evident from my initial post, just those which have potent medicinal action.
 
Mr Organon last decade

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