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4 year old just diagnosed with wet fip :( Please help!

My fiance and I feel so sad and helpless right now...

Our 4 year old domestic shorthair named Jaq started losing a little weight in late December... We didn't think much of it, but after going away for 2 days for New Years we noticed we could feel his spine and ribs, definitely not normal for him... He was in perfect shape around 10 pounds or so, very playful, great personality... Right about January 2nd he starting vomiting a couple of times a day... At that point he really stopped eating and drinking as well... By that Saturday we got to the point that we knew he needed to be checked out by a vet (something he HATES and we didn't want to stress him out more), but the emergency vet by us is terrible so we force fed him wet food and water through a syringe for a few days and went to our regular vet on Monday...

The vet started with an x-ray but they couldn't see anything at all... She said this could be due to fluid in the abdomen or a lack of fat or dehydration on a now underweight cat (6lb10oz)... She tapped his abdomen in multiple spots, and had the other vet try as well, but couldn't find any fluid at all... We did a blood test that came back positive at 1:1600 for FCoV/FIP, which just about broke our hearts... He did come back negative on the lower test (1:400 I think?)... With the lack of fluid though, and no real signs of dry FIP, the doctor gave Jaq a couple of weeks worth of Clavamox anti-biotics, 2 packs of sub-cuteanus (sp?) liquid, and we went on our way...

That night Jaq made us so happy when he started to eat like crazy! Begging for treats, head shoved in his wet food... Still wasn't drinking as far as we could tell, so I continued with syringes of water 6 or 7 times a day... Over the next week he definitely was still losing some muscle mass, but was eating and finally starting drinking again... He was more tired then anything else, but in fairly good spirits... He even complained (LOUDLY) every time we gave the dog a treat and he didn't get one!

After about 10 days of the anti-biotics his stomach/abdomen started to grow... Early this week it got very big and was obvious that it had a lot of fluid in it We took him in and they took out 2 vials of yellow fluid, leaving some in because she said it's not good to take all of it out... That night and especially the next morning we noticed he was oozing more of it out of the hole she made for the tap... We are waiting on the lab results and will have them tomorrow...

Last night he was just lying on his side, staring straight ahead, and breathing heavily... So scary and sad... We have no idea what to do right now... He is set up to see an internal medicane specialist on Monday, but if this is truly FIP then that will just be a waste of money... I'd rather spend the money trying to do so eastern medicine, herbs, and anything else that might give him quality of life and extend his time with us a bit... He doesn't seem like he is in pain yet, just a little uncomfortable... Once he is in pain we will be strong and make the right decision for him and not for us... I'm doing anything I can right now, moving chairs and things around the house to make it easier for him to jump to the counters and windows he likes to hang out on, giving him lots of treats and high protein foods, and just petting him and holding him near...

More then anything we just don't understand how this happened... He was adopted at 11 months old and we were told he was in a one cat household up until being put up for adoption... He has always been an indoor and only cat, and has been living happy and healthy with us for the past 3 years (he turned 4 a couple of weeks ago)... Has never been boarded, he stayed with a friend who has a cat when we went away for a week, but that was in 2006... We have had a dog for the past 13 months, but the vet assures us that the dog could not possibly have caused this... The dog and cat are best friends and love each other very much... Riley (a 16 month old lab/beagle mix) has not left Jaq's side in the past couple of weeks...

Any thoughts or comments are appreciated!

Evan
 
  eochs on 2009-01-29
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
In cases of FIP, where edema occurs, the excess fluid is very hard on the heart and often kills before the disease does. Watercress has been used with success (juiced and given orall via eyedropper, or diced finely and added to food) to rid various body cavities of fluid build-up, the fluid can be drained by a vet until the disease is under control, or the vet can prescribe a diuretic.

What one worker in the field had to say about FIP:

'As for tests to determine presence of FIP, there are two tests n the market, which give 95% predictive values for FIP. The one is a PCR test that looks for mutated FIP virus (not corona virus) and which is recommended for use to confirm FIP virus presence at autopsy rather than as a screening test. It was developed in 1994. It will find the virus itself, and is not dependent on antibody from an intact immune system. The other is an ELISA test developed in 1998, using the principle of looking for antibody to mutated FIP virus. This does depend on the immune system being viable enough to make antibody, and is recommended as one of the things to use to determine whether a cat has FIP, as a screening test. It is '95% predictive' which means that it will predict a case of FIP being present, with 95% success if the test is positive. I have personally seen this test in use and it was accurate in prediction for 40 out of 40 cases where I worked. It tends to find cats negative who the vet thinks are positive - and definitely saved the life of a couple of cats that way where I worked. I especially remember one 16 year old rather overweight lady who looked like a wet FIP case, and who was so lethargic as to be totally immobile. The vet was really pushing the owner to euthanize and stop what he called the 'heroic IV measures', but the owner wanted a positive test and twice it came back negative. Sure enough, Cleo two days later, hopped off the IV table when her hydrating session was about to start, and next thing was other side the clinic building, feeling fine thank you very much. It's my opinion that this test is a great asset, and that it should be used when FIP is suspected. I would still treat the cat for FIP symptoms homeopathically, and use it only for diagnosis - I would never use any test as a way to make a decision on euthanasia. That decision is for the cat to make - they tell you when they are not enjoying life. No test does that - but tests DO help you devise symptoms the cat may have but which they might be unable to communicate. Blood tests for example, will often tell you a cat is nauseous or whatever, so you can use that rubric when repertorizing for the matching homeopathic remedy. A positive FIP test would also trigger my wanting to make a nosode from the fluid that is specific to the cat - and I would use the FIP nosode treatment - the general nosode for FIP/FIV/FeLV in the meantime. Later one can go on to specific homeopathic remedies to match symptoms, as the case progresses. But with alternative health, and conventional tests, there is hope for FIP cases to live with more quality days/weeks/years than conventional medicine can offer. Cats have survived correct positive FIP diagnosis. The cat's first line of defense against FIP is a cellular immune response. This can in fact overcome FIP. The danger with FIP, happens when the invading virus gets PAST the cellular response, to the general immune antibody system. Once the cat's antibody system 'sees' the FIp virus, it makes antibodies to the FIP virus, and these antibodies kill the cat. That is why traditional FIP treatment is things like cortisone that knock out the antibody immune system. It's because the cat's antibodies to FIP are the killer action, not the virus growing in the cat as with 'normal' viruses. But if the cat can fend off the FIP at the cellular response level (local level of cell immunity), not the general level of antibody manufacture through the overall immune system, then it can get rid of FIP altogether. It's only the antibody 'defense' that kills the cat who has mutated its corona to FIP. I hope that helps explain this horrid FIP phenomenon.'

A testimonial(not mine):

(FIP) Feline Infectious Peritonitis Cured with Herbs
When my neighbor with cancer had developed jaundice due to liver failure, I ordered bupleurum root. When the herb came in and I told him what it was for, he wasn't interested. So it sat on my shelf. A few months later, my cat contracted FIP. His condition deteriorated until he, too, developed severe jaundice, was throwing up yellow bile, was dropping feces uncontrollably, and had lost so much weight he looked like a skeleton with fur. My mother asked if I was giving him herbs, to which I replied that I was afraid it would kill him. Then it dawned on me he was going to die anyway, so what could it hurt?
I made a tea by boiling one tablespoon of bupleurum root and one tablespoon of pau d' arco bark in two cups of water. After boiling for ten minutes I turned off the heat and added one tablespoon of dried yarrow flowers and leaves and let it steep for about twenty minutes more. I strained the tea through a mesh strainer and poured it into empty medicine bottles with eyedroppers and refrigerated it.
At first I gave my cat five one milliliter drops every 20 minutes straight into the back of his mouth. After two hours I administered the five drops every two hours for 24 hours. Then I reduced the dosage to every two hours during my normal waking hours for several days. I continued the treatment every few hours for two more weeks. He was pretty weak in the beginning of treatment, so I also crushed up a cat vitamin, mixed it with water, and fed him about 5ml twice per day until he started eating again. The jaundice gradually went away over a two week period. He recovered fully, regained his appetite, and is regaining weight. It looks like this incurable cat disease is no longer incurable, at least for herbalists.

Note: Blupleurum and pau d'arco should be available at any health food store- check the Bulk section where the dried herbs etc are sold in Bulk or if you can't get it there then ask if it's available in any other form such as tablet or capsule form and consider using that in the tea.)


Another testimonial:

'My introduction to homeopathy came about because my feline who had
FIP, Aids and Leukemia was dying. The following remedy brought him
back in 12 hours. NO JOKE. He was choking on his fluids before that
and the antibiotics were useless. Haven't had much use for
conventional medicine since. Anyway, if you can get a vet to order
the glandulars for you, here it is: Pulsatilla, Ars. alb., Calc.
flour, Silicia, Rhus tox., Flour ac., Cantharis, Carduus mar, Hepar
sulph, Cell salts, Lymph, Liver, Argent. nit. - all 10x potency, 15x
will do. I realize the classical homeopaths will have a fit over
this. I'm sorry, this is beyond chronic and these remedies work on
many different area's of the body and quickly.' Lita

In a book called The Very Healthy Cat book by Dr. W>O> Belfield, DVM he says that in the very last stages- if there is no other hope- that he removes the spleen- he says that the spleen exacerbates the problem- and once it's removed that the pet recovers. Completely.

In a book called Green Leaves of Barley by noted author and nutritionist Dr. Mary Ruth Swope- she writes of a cat who was in the last stages of FIP. The cat could not stand. Her caregiver mixed up powdered Barley Green ( you can get it from a health food store ) according to directions and put a bowlful down in from of the cat who dragged himself over to it and drank the whole thing. She made up another batch and he drank that. She kept the bowl filled and he would go and drink as he wanted ( if you cat does not do this you may consider giving it via 3-cc syringe minus the needle- throughout the day ). within 48 hours the cat had fully recovered.(You may have to give it by dropper or syringe if the cat won't take it by himself.


Holistic vets say not to give antibiotics or corticosteroids for FIP because it only weakens the animal. Improve the diet they say , a raw food diet, or equivalent, such as Mature's variety,a diet from the Pets4Life website, etc.

Vets are now saying that FIP is related to vaccinations.

From another worker in the field:

The best test in USA for FIP (not for corona virus) currently is Dr Kevin Steele's test. He developed an Elisa-7B-FIP test in 1998 which is 95% predictive for FIP. He also has a PCR test (more appropriate for autopsy confirmation) called the PCR-7B-FIP test. The 7B refers to a gene that occurs in FIP but not in the regular enteric corona from which it mutates. This covers most of the FIP seen 'in the wild'. Other signs are in blood tests including high globulin, and in wet FIP there is yellow, sticky, effusion fluid with high globulin. Other effusion fluids have different characteristics. Your vet should be up on the testing options, although the 7B FIP tests are not available in all countries yet. When in doubt, I highy recommned immediate use of the homeopathic FIP nosode to build resistance to FIP.

Dr. Deva Khalsa, DVM 1724 Yardley-Langhorne Rd Yardley, PA 19067 215-493-6021. She says
she can reverse or arrest cases of FIP homeopathically, she may reveal to another vet what she used. If your vet phoned her. It is said that she can arrest and even reverse FIP.

Another testimonial:

Our vet also treated a case of feline infectious peritonitis [FIP] with ImmunoPhase. FIP is caused by a coronavirus and is difficult to diagnose and to treat. It is probably the most common cause of unexplained fevers in cats. The illness can cause lethargy, weight loss, eye disease, and swelling of the abdomen or fluid in the chest. Most cats with FIP will die within 2 to 11 months from the damage caused by the virus, the immune system and secondary problems such as kidney or liver failure.
The cat treated by the vet with ImmunoPhase had been ill for 20 days. Nothing had worked to lessen or stop the illness and they were waiting for the pet to die. As a last resort, they gave the cat ImmunoPhase and she quickly recovered her health within a few days.
Since ImmunoPhase worked so well in these and other cases of pet infections it would be helpful to have the remedy on hand to use at the first sign of illness.
Since dogs and cats are much smaller than humans, they should be given smaller doses of the remedy. Mid-sized and larger dogs can be provided with one capsule of ImmunoPhase from 3-5 times per day. Smaller dogs and cats can take 1/2 capsule 3-5 times per day. The best way to give your pet the formula is to open the capsule and stir it in with wet pet food. The main precaution in giving the formula to your animal is to watch out for diarrhea as your petÂ’s digestive system may be weakened by its illness. Discontinue the remedy if this occurs. And, as with humans, be sure to consult with your veterinarian as needed for the health of your pet.
 
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