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Swine flu

The spread of the swine flu is all over the news. What remedies should we have on hand if we are affected by this?

Thanks,
ruth
 
  ruth45 on 2009-04-27
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
Gelsemium,Aconite and rhustox may help you for the swine flu attack.
 
Zahid)2 last decade
Influenzinum of latest make must be able to help as a preventative though it's not a fool-proof method. Two or three doses of 200c every dose a week apart will help.

I've heard that specifically pyrogenium and Baptisia helps with this epidemic though I've not personally verified this.

Remedies close to symptoms will always help. so unless genus epidemicus is clear, usage of remedies suitable to symptoms is a wiser option.

Some remedies to have are:

Gelsemium, eupat. perf., Ars. alb, allium cepa, baptisia, rhustox, bryonia, sabadilla, sticta, phosphorus.
 
maheeru last decade
For the prophylactic uses of swine flu:When Swine flu appear in a family let all those who are unaffected take Ars.3c thrice daily and let the patients take influenzinum 30c every hour or two.This generally prevents the spread of the trouble and clears up the 'Swine Flu' attack.
For the earliar stage of Swine Flu:One dose of Oscillococcinum 200c every 2 to 3 hours or repeat only if necessary.
Other remedies Which can help you:Cimic,Ars,Bell,Bry,Hep,Merc,Gels,Aconite,Rhustox and Eupat.perf
 
Zahid)2 last decade
thank you all
keep on good work.
 
purdaysee last decade
Hi all,

After coming to know of swine flu yesterday morning, I contacted a homeopath and he advised us to take Sulpur 200C 2 times a day as preventive medicine. My husband had it last night and today morning. While he was in office today morning at 10AM he started feeling very dizzy(no stability) while standing. His friends dropped him off at home and later he had nausea, chill feeling and vomitting. He feels better when he's lying down and as soon as he stands up, he feels dizzy again, then feels like vomitting. Once he vomits he feels better again for the next 10-15 mins. He's not able to eat anything as of now. Can anyone pls tell me if this is due to sulphur ? Is there any antidote ?

I also took 2 doses of it from last night. I'm also feeling nausea and chill now.
 
tochitra last decade
If the Antidote is not availble, by the inhelation of perfume u can antidote the Homeo medicine easily
 
purdaysee last decade
Antidoting remedies for sulphur > Camphora, Chamomilla, China, Mercurius, Rhus tox., Sepia, Thuja...##
ask for advice of Homeo Dr
 
purdaysee last decade
Influenzinum 200 + Bacillinium 200 + Diphtherinum 200 + Oscillococcinum 200

Can give a good support to the body's immune system against Swine Flu
 
Ataulkaafi last decade
Hi all,

A user of this site sent me an email today which is very relevent to this thread. Here is that email:
"
I thought you might be interested in some comments made by a NY mom, five of whose
kids had swine flu. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30486742/


Everyone at Civitano’s house is recovering now. That appears to be one hallmark of
this virus: a sudden onset and an equally sudden easing of symptoms, she said.
“Brendan really got the worse dose,” Civitano said. “But by yesterday, it was like
it didn’t happen.”


Many remedies have "sudden onset" but I know of few that have "sudden recovery"
so that really caught my attention. Earlier in the article the children's symptoms
were described:

... Frankie’s 103-degree fever and his cough and headache worried Civitano ... First
Anthony, 19, who had a mild cough and sore throat, and then Brendan, 10, who has
health problems, including diabetes.

“Anything for him can become so much more serious,” Civitano said.

Indeed, Brendan’s symptoms were severe: high fever, extreme headache and cough,
nausea, dizziness and sensitivity to light and sound.
Nicholas, 2, was next with milder symptoms, and then Katie, Civitano’s 24-year-old
daughter-in-law, called to say she’d come down with flu after visiting over the
weekend. Fortunately, Katie’s 3-month-old baby was spared.

Baptisia came up in Reference Works when I plugged in:

Sudden onset
Sudden recovery

and also when the following were added:

Sensitive to noise
Sensitive to light

I'd be interested in any other information you have which might point to the genus
epidemicus for 2009 H1N1.
"
 
moderator last decade
I believe that Herbal healer (dot) com

does carry the homoepathic swine flu nosodes.

Search their online catalog.

I have no affiliation/financial interest in this company other than being a member.
 
healer2 last decade
Most cases of Swine fluu indicate to Arsenicum and some to Gelsemium.

-Reference-Dr. Luc's blog
 
Niel Madhavan last decade
the follwoing from herbal healer:



NEW!

Flu Nosode (2008-2009)
Formulated specifically for this year's flu strain.
Ingredients: Influenzinum V2 - Grippe, Influenzinum V76 - Grippe, Adenovirus (respiratory), Respiratory Synoytial Virus, Chlamydia pneumoniae, Pneumococcinum, Hong Kong flu virus 12X, 30X, 60X, 100 X, Influenzinum Virus 2008/09 30X, 60X - 20% alcohol and purified water.


Flu Nosode (2007-2008)
Influenzum V2-Grippe, Influenzum V76 - Grippe, Adenovirus (respiratory), Respiratory Syncytial Virus, Chlamydia pneumoniae, Pneumococcinum, 12X, 30X, 60X, 100X, Influenzum Virus 2007/08 - 30X, 60X.

FLU NOSODE (2006-2007)
A/Wisconsin/67/2005 (H3N2)-like or the antigenically equivalent A/Hiroshima/52/2005 A/New Caledonia/20/1999 (H1N1)-like strain B/Malaysia/2506/2004-like strain or the antigenically equivalent B/Ohio/1/2005 virus


FLU NOSODE (2005-2006)
Homeopathic Liquid (2005-2006) - 12X, 30X, 60X, 100X combined potency. Adult dose: 10 drops under tongue or in a little water twice a day. Safe for children, scale back according to weight. All homeopathic products need to be taken by themselves and not with food or drink (except water). 2 oz.


FLU NOSODE (2004-2005)
Homeopathic Liquid (2004-2005) - 12X,30X,60X,100X combined potency. Adult dose: 10 drops under tongue or in a little water twice a day. Safe for children, scale back according to weight. All homeopathic products need to be taken by themselves and not with food or drink (except water). 2 oz.


MENINGITIS NOSODE
Meningococcinum - Homeopathic Liquid - 30X, 60X. Recommended if you have a very stiff neck symptom associated with the flu. Adult dose: 10 drops under tongue or in a little water twice a day. Safe for children, scale back according to weight. All homeopathic products need to be taken by themselves and not with food or drink (except water). 2 oz. bottle.




PNEUMONIA HOMEOPATHIC DROPS
This is a nosode blend covering bacterial, viral and fungal pneumonia. Professional formula exclusive for HHA - Homeopathic 30X and 60X - Influenzinum, Adenovirus type 16, Rhinopneumotitis, Respiratory Syncytial virus, Mycoplasma, Pneumoniae, Coxsackie virus, Pneumococcinum Staphylococcus, Hemolytic Streptococcus, Mycobacterium tuberculosis, Rickettsia burnetii, Rickettsia, Hemophilus influenza, Klebsiella, Chlamydia trachomatis, Chlamydia psittaci, Chlamydia pneumoniae, Coccidioides immitis, Histoplasma, Capsulatum in a alcohol UPS 20% and purified water.
 
healer2 last decade
I should also note that the Director of Herbal Healer is Dr. Mariah McCain, ND and a World Class Naturopath and formerly employed as a Microbiolgist so she must know a little bit about the flu.

She is a recognized Dr. in India and and Doctor of Naturopathy in the USA.
 
healer2 last decade
This was meant to be posted in my last post, but somehow it got deleted. My computer malfunctions like this sometimes.

Some info on Dr. Mariah McCain, ND.


'Many of you know that I was a microbiologist and a hard core researcher.
I have spent the last 25 years working in the natural medicine field and I
will tell you that we do have solutions that work and are safe. I am a
world class Homeopath and I want you to pay attention to homeopathy as
this field offers some of the very best alternatives to killer drugs and
toxic vaccines. If you are not familiar with homeopathy get the book we
have called Homeopathy The Great Riddle and read it!

Two things you should know - H5N1 is the bird flu and H1N1 is the swine
flu. Keep that in mind. In homeopathy 'Like Cure's Like' so many times
remedies for one thing can be used for something very similar. Homeopathy
may very well prove to be the savior in a serious pandemic. It has
before.

I'm all over it for you!



Love Marijah McCain
World Class Naturopath
 
healer2 last decade
I seriously doubt the efficacy of any of the above remedies.

Classical homeoptahy lays down a very simple formula for zeroing down on the remedy for a zymotic/epidemic outbreak. I quote the following from Dr. Hering's introduction on using the book in his 'Analytical Repertory of the Mind', a philosophy coming directly from the monumental works of Hahnemann:

'In all zymotic diseases we have, as in other epidemics, to sum up all the symptoms of as manycases as we can examine properly, and concentrate their symptoms into one image, from which to select that remedy really 'specific' to the zymosis. Further, we have in all zymotic diseases, or contagious epidemics, an additional rule to bear in mind, viz., take the most characteristic symptoms at the invasion, at the height of the disease, and lastly during the decline of the disease; that is, during the recovery. These three points have to be 'covered' by the characteristics of the drug. We may find in this way a preventive, 'prophylactic', or a medicine, which, if cannot prevent altogether, will make all cases lighter and more readily curable.'

Giving nosodes without proper provings may turn out to be a recipe for extraordinary disaster.

I would request one and all active on this forum, especially those coming from the US and Mexico, to collect as much symptoms as possible of this epidemic so that it may be easier for the homoeopathic fraternity to come to the appropriate remedy for this nemesis.

Warm regards and best wishes

Niel
 
Niel Madhavan last decade
'Giving nosodes without proper provings may turn out to be a recipe for extraordinary disaster.'


Does not this statement contradict the whole point of Homeopathy in the first place?

That it can do no harm?

And it will only react/have an effect if it is the correct remedy.

And while you may be correct in the Classical Homepathy philosopty/protocol in single remedy solutions; it is also well known that combined remedies work just as well.

I beleive that your statement of incurring a 'disaster' is quite alarming to say.

However, if these posts are creating a problem that you feel is creating competition to abc, then I will gladly remove them or if you are the moderator here, feel free to do so.

I was under the impression that we are all on the same team to help people no matter who has the answers?

And as Homeopathy 'can do no harm' at worst, I feel that it is at least irresponsible to post critical comments about a method from someone who has impeccable credentials and a former microbiologist in fact.
 
healer2 last decade
Hi Healer2

No offence meant, but to say that homeopathy can't harm at all is not universally true. Some sensitive individuals may turn out to be provers.

Anyways, i just put forth my opinion; to take it or not is always your prerogative i am in no ways going to impinge on.

Request other experienced practioners to come up with their views.

Apologise if I offended you in anywhich way.

Fondest Regards

Niel.
 
Niel Madhavan last decade
And just for the sake of clarification, I am no moderater nor am I remotely concerned with the competition you may be giving to ABC. I am just a lover and practitioner of homoeopathy who and here to help people in whatever capacity I can without any active considerations, monetary or otherwise.

Best wishes and fondest regards

Niel
 
Niel Madhavan last decade
No offense taken.

I am just here to offer alternatives.

Anything is better than taking the vaccine.

I myself am a Certified Herbalist, and I see some of the same things happening in all the Natrual Health fields.

Knowingly or not, those in the field are spreading so much confusion, that it turns people away and the go back to allpathic remedies which kill them eventually.

They are unaware that they are follwoing the same protocols as allpathic medicine; ie., to try to get too refined/exact rather than get close and let the body do the rest of the healing.

In doing this, they get caught up too much in the diagnosis which goes around in circles and only serves to frustrate the patient.

I myself am an adanced student of TCM, and have seen the same thing happening there; the diagnosis getting too complicated by using traditional diagnosis methods, ie., western medicine rather than raising ones skill and using simply a YIN/YANG imbalance.

Using classical Homeopathy would requier one to become/study CH themselves before they could use any of the remedies, or require multiple visits to a CH, if they could afford one, or find one which is not the point in my opinion of utilizing natural healing methods; natural which I consider all non-allotorpic methods, acupuncture, herbs, hoemopathy, magnetic engery, heat/cold, energy medicine, etc.

Of coures ultimately, as the mind leads the body, then one must 'learn' natural healing and not depend on others, not even practioners to obtain and maintain health. That is what caused me to want to learn it myself. If one doesnt, then they are constantly dependent on antohers opinion of waht they have and what the solution is.

Peace
 
healer2 last decade
And just a note, please forgive my typos, as I have no problem spelling, but my fingers dont always hit the right keys...must be getting arthritic fingers from all the typing.
 
healer2 last decade
I also feel that I must address another statement made that,

'Some sensitive individuals may turn out to be provers.'

Again, while this statement is true, the point could again be made that it would still be better to be a 'prover' than to take the vaccine, which is the whole point of natural remedies, to keep one away from the dangers of allopathic medicine.

And also, anyone can turn out to be a 'prover' no matter what they take or whom recommends it as none of this is an 'exact' science and thats exactly the point. It doesnt need to be, thus why I admonish any/all who would use any natural remedy to not get too caught up in the diagnosis but in strengthening their immune system/mental outlook which would cure/control all/any disease.

An example would be someone who presents with multiple symptoms that a practitioner gets too caught up in being precise that he/she loses sight of the whole reason why the patient is there, ie., to avoid having to take prescription drugs.

An example of someone with heart disease, high b/p, pain, lung problems, insomnia etc. A practitioner can get lost in the maze of symptoms and wind up not making any progress at all in any of them, or either afraid to tell the patient that we can work some of them at a time but to give it time and be patient and not give up.

Someone who has a disease for 10 years cannot expect a cure in 10 days or even 10 months.

From TCM, I know that the 'evil energy' lasting that long can be moved, but not completely dissipated for quite a long time.
'Energy can neither be created, nor destroyed...but can be moved to balance/harmony with the body' (in time)

And from Homeopathy, one knows that all symptoms will reverse as time passes.

So if you are recovering from bronchitis today, but a year ago had pneumonia, then as you heal, you will have to revisit pneumonia and then take the appropriate remedy for that at that time, etc.

Healing from inside/out - top/bottom.
 
healer2 last decade
 
healer2 last decade
When healthy adults die of the flu, it is usually because it becomes pneumonia. Pneumonia can develop about 5 days after the flu symptoms of fever, cough, and muscle aches start. There is swelling (inflammation) in the lungs, and the person has trouble breathing which gets worse and worse until they die. Taking antiviral medications within 48 hours of the flu symptoms starting can help reduce the symptoms but may not prevent the person from developing pneumonia.

The following recipe is an alternative medical procedure that supposedly came from Canadian aboriginals in the province of Quebec. This method has been used many times to cure people of pneumonia.

The method:
---Buy a regular cabbage at the grocery store. Separate the cabbage into leaves (removing the hard part) and wash them. You may want to warm the leaves slightly in the oven, so it doesn’t feel too cold against the patient’s skin, but it is not necessary for it to work.
---Spread a large towel on the bed. The towel should be big enough to be wrapped around the patient’s upper body.
---Place half the cabbage leaves on the towel in the area where the cabbage will cover the patient’s back.
---Lie the patient on the towel so that the cabbage covers the whole back.
---Place the other half of the cabbage leaves on the patient’s chest. Make sure you also cover the sides of the body.
---Wrap the towel around the patient’s chest. Secure the towel.
---Leave on overnight.
---In the morning, remove the towel and cabbage leaves. There will be a strong smell of cabbage. Discard cabbage leaves.

Results:
---Fluid on lungs should be gone easing the patient's breathing. A second application (using a new cabbage) on the 2nd night may be necessary, but usually it is not needed.

Note: When SARS was in the news, I saw in the newspaper that nursing attendants were in danger of contracting SARS when they inserted tubes down patients throats to get rid of fluid build-up on the patient's lungs. I'd take cabbage to having tubes thrust down my throat anyday.
 
tiver last decade
GET YOUR SWINE FLU NOSODES!


http://www.herbalhealer.com/homeopathy.html


Flu - H1N1 Nosode Influenza A - Swine
Long-term expiration: 5/2014


---------------------------




Flu Nosode (2008-2009)
Formulated specifically for this year's flu strain.
Ingredients: Influenzinum V2 - Grippe, Influenzinum V76 - Grippe, Adenovirus (respiratory), Respiratory Synoytial Virus, Chlamydia pneumoniae, Pneumococcinum, Hong Kong flu virus 12X, 30X, 60X, 100 X, Influenzinum Virus 2008/09 30X, 60X - 20% alcohol and purified water.

Flu Nosode (2007-2008)
Influenzum V2-Grippe, Influenzum V76 - Grippe, Adenovirus (respiratory), Respiratory Syncytial Virus, Chlamydia pneumoniae, Pneumococcinum, 12X, 30X, 60X, 100X, Influenzum Virus 2007/08 - 30X, 60X.

FLU NOSODE (2006-2007)
A/Wisconsin/67/2005 (H3N2)-like or the antigenically equivalent A/Hiroshima/52/2005 A/New Caledonia/20/1999 (H1N1)-like strain B/Malaysia/2506/2004-like strain or the antigenically equivalent B/Ohio/1/2005 virus

FLU NOSODE (2005-2006)
Homeopathic Liquid (2005-2006) - 12X, 30X, 60X, 100X combined potency. Adult dose: 10 drops under tongue or in a little water twice a day. Safe for children, scale back according to weight. All homeopathic products need to be taken by themselves and not with food or drink (except water). 2 oz.

FLU NOSODE (2004-2005)
Homeopathic Liquid (2004-2005) - 12X,30X,60X,100X combined potency. Adult dose: 10 drops under tongue or in a little water twice a day. Safe for children, scale back according to weight. All homeopathic products need to be taken by themselves and not with food or drink (except water). 2 oz.
 
healer2 last decade
i repeat, the nosodes described are dangerous.

niel
 
Niel Madhavan last decade

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