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calcarea after lyco
friends, can i give calcarea after lycopodium without giving sulphur in between? will it cause any harm? around four weeks back, i gave my wife a single dose of calcarea carb 200 and four or five days later one dose of lycopodium 200. now i am thinking of repeating calc carb 200 one more time as i see certain of her symptoms seem to come back slowly.pcthahir on 2009-07-29
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as far as i know,
Lycop acts with special benefit after Calcar and Sulphur.
so i don know about calc after lyco, i would ask you to wait and watch before you repeat calc. because you are dealing with all deep acting remedies so be careful in repeating them so often.
Lycop acts with special benefit after Calcar and Sulphur.
so i don know about calc after lyco, i would ask you to wait and watch before you repeat calc. because you are dealing with all deep acting remedies so be careful in repeating them so often.
Dr. Bagyavasan.k last decade
This should never be done
Lyc->Sulph->Calc->Lyc is the only order possible.
Calc will spoil a case when given after Lyc.
Lyc->Sulph->Calc->Lyc is the only order possible.
Calc will spoil a case when given after Lyc.
sameervermani last decade
dear sameer, it is nice to hear your reply. if i want to repeat calcarea one more time, is it necessary that i should give sulphur even if she does not have sulphur indications? now she does not appear to be burning or hot. she is sensitive to cold. but she is very reluctant to take her bath. she is aware of her uncleanliness but she is not ready to clean herself. can i give psorinum between lyco and calc in place of sulphur? is it dangerous to give sulphur or psorinum in the first trimester of pregnancy especially when there is a tendency in the woman to miscarry?
pcthahir last decade
dear Dr. bagyavasan, i too am uncertain about repeating calcarea. two days back i put this doubt of mine in this forum. some books say that calcarea can be repeated at intervals. allen says it should not be repeated in aged people especially if the first dose benefited. if we do so, it will usually do harm. i gave my wife only one dose of calcarea 200 on 4th july and one dose of lyco after five days. after that as she had the seasonal flu, i gave her eupatorium 200 and rhus tox 30. now 25 days have passed since my first dose of calcarea. she is two months pregnant. the first dose had really benifited her. should i give her one more dose of calcarea 200 preceded by one dose of sulphur 30? if i want to wait, when can i think of a second dose? or need i not repeat it at all?
pcthahir last decade
Dear pcthahir,
As i told you all the remedies are deep acting remedies, so they have to be repeated only in longer intervals. so i understand that you first gave calc carb 200 one dose and then followed it with lyco. you also say that there was improvement, so wait for atleast another 15 days and then we will see the symptoms and then decide, you can even wait for long and just moniter the change in the symptomatology closely. as i told you calc carb has a longer and deeper acting tendency. And the cycle is correct you can give a dose of sulphur and then give calc again, but it is not the time yet, so wait, atleast give time for the medicine to finish its action.
hope i have answered the questions and i prefer sulphur 200 rather than 30, the sensitivity of your wife is high as she is presenting symptoms at the mind level and also she is pregnant.
As i told you all the remedies are deep acting remedies, so they have to be repeated only in longer intervals. so i understand that you first gave calc carb 200 one dose and then followed it with lyco. you also say that there was improvement, so wait for atleast another 15 days and then we will see the symptoms and then decide, you can even wait for long and just moniter the change in the symptomatology closely. as i told you calc carb has a longer and deeper acting tendency. And the cycle is correct you can give a dose of sulphur and then give calc again, but it is not the time yet, so wait, atleast give time for the medicine to finish its action.
hope i have answered the questions and i prefer sulphur 200 rather than 30, the sensitivity of your wife is high as she is presenting symptoms at the mind level and also she is pregnant.
Dr. Bagyavasan.k last decade
dear Dr. bagyavasan, so you mean a pregnant woman is more sensitive. do you believe that a more sensitive person should be given a higher potency? but my doubt is that can i give her a high potency sulphur in pregnancy especially in the first trimester. for my wife does not eat as much as she used to do before she became pregnant and now she has become very choosyin her food. plus the foetus has to draw nutrition from the mother's body. because of these reasons she appears to be a bit weak and tired physically. besides, she miscarried twice earlier during the first trimester. when considering these physical conditions of my wife, can i give her a high potency sulphur? how can we understand that a given dose has completed its action? kindly answer my doubts.
pcthahir last decade
You have to be careful in giving medicine to pregnant women, especially if it is a case of miscarriage, so i suggest you just wait for 15 days as i suggested. and food has to be nutritous as you rightly said the baby needs healthy food.
so don be so much hasty in giving any remedy right now.
there is no harm in waiting rather than introducing sulphur right now.
so don be so much hasty in giving any remedy right now.
there is no harm in waiting rather than introducing sulphur right now.
Dr. Bagyavasan.k last decade
friends, i need urgent help. today an hour ago my wife had a very slight vaginal bleeding. she had no pain of any kind at that time, nor does she have pain now except a slight headache which she had been experiencing for these two days. she does not have the sabina kind of pain nor its general symptoms. so should i give her sabina? let me give her sulphur 30 today and Calcarea Carb 200 [as the second dose] after 24 hours? now she is in her third month of pregnancy, and it was in her third month that she miscarried all the time in the past. should i think of increasing the potency of calc carb at this time?
pcthahir last decade
if the pain is intermittent then take her to the near by hospital at once, also if the bleeding is progressive then also report to the hospital.
Caution: do not repeat or add any medicines right now please. any case of miscarriage has to be treated as prescious pregnancy, so be careful, wait till the second trimister and then do it.
Caution: do not repeat or add any medicines right now please. any case of miscarriage has to be treated as prescious pregnancy, so be careful, wait till the second trimister and then do it.
Dr. Bagyavasan.k last decade
dear dr. bagyavasan, thank you very much for your response. she has no pain, nor her bleeding very severe. hers was just one or two drops of blood, brownish colour. i don't want to go to allopathic medicine for preserving her pregnancy. i am thinking of preserving it through homeopathy. i think homeopathy can treat threatened abortion better than allopathy. her slight bleeding is of course the sign of threatened abortion. i feel that calcarea is her constitutional remedy. couldn't this bleeding be considered as an alert of the body to repeat calcarea? in allopathy i have to put her on constant artificial hormone treatment. would it be safe?
pcthahir last decade
ofcourse, homeopathy can treat abortion, threathened abortions very well, but i don clearly understand your wifes case, if you feel calc carb is her constitution then go ahead, but as i told you sulphur at this case don think should be repeated in lower potency, so give 200 one dose and then continue calc carb. but i can suggest anything only if you can clearly tell me the history, like how she came to this state, why was other abortions happened, and what other medicination is she on, etc, with all the examination reports.
Dr. Bagyavasan.k last decade
Please, please don't give Calcarea if the last medicine was Lyco...
Niel Madhavan last decade
if i give her sulphur 200, after how many days can i give her calc carb 200? can i give it after 24 hours? could you please tell me your view on potency selection? do you think more sensitive persons should be given higher potencies?is there any general rule in potency selection during pregnancy?
now a bit of my wife's history. i married her in 2000 when she was 25 years old. in 2000 and 2001 she had one miscarriage each even though she was given allopathic progesterone hormone pills. different types of hormone tests were done. but the doctors could not figure out a clear cut reason for repeating miscarriages. so we decided to try naturopathy and she fasted for about three weeks followed by naturopathic diet till she got pregnant again in 2003. but this time also, she had a bleeding in the third month as usual. but this time the foetus was found to be alive despite bleeding. so so she was prescribed progesterone pills which she had to use until the end of her pregnancy. since the embryo in the womb was in breach position, she had to undergo a caesarean section. the baby was almost okay except that he had increased eye pressure [IOP] in both his eyes. i do not know whether it was the result of prolonged use of progesterone or the result of getting my gene. [i too am visually impaired]. then in 2005 december we did a forced abortion as the child was small and she had hypothyroidism. then i knew that homeopathy can successfully treat hypothyroidism and it was treated with help of sulph,calcarea and lyco. there was very good response initially but her reduced TSH level began to rise again. now i feel that it was because of the wrong repetition of my then homeopath. he said these three remedies of 200 potency should be given one after another in three days and the same medicines should be repeated in 1M potency after one week.it was after that higher potencies that her much improved condition began to take a relapse.now this pregnancy of her started i tested her TSH level and found that it was slightly high [6.1]. so i myself decided to give her calc carb 200. i checked her TSH level after one week and found that it had come down to 1.5. with this prescription her sciatica pain also disappeared. after four or five days i was compelled to give her lyco because there was awful flatulence in her stomach as part of her morning sickness.and yesterday she had a very slight vaginal bleeding.
now a bit of my wife's history. i married her in 2000 when she was 25 years old. in 2000 and 2001 she had one miscarriage each even though she was given allopathic progesterone hormone pills. different types of hormone tests were done. but the doctors could not figure out a clear cut reason for repeating miscarriages. so we decided to try naturopathy and she fasted for about three weeks followed by naturopathic diet till she got pregnant again in 2003. but this time also, she had a bleeding in the third month as usual. but this time the foetus was found to be alive despite bleeding. so so she was prescribed progesterone pills which she had to use until the end of her pregnancy. since the embryo in the womb was in breach position, she had to undergo a caesarean section. the baby was almost okay except that he had increased eye pressure [IOP] in both his eyes. i do not know whether it was the result of prolonged use of progesterone or the result of getting my gene. [i too am visually impaired]. then in 2005 december we did a forced abortion as the child was small and she had hypothyroidism. then i knew that homeopathy can successfully treat hypothyroidism and it was treated with help of sulph,calcarea and lyco. there was very good response initially but her reduced TSH level began to rise again. now i feel that it was because of the wrong repetition of my then homeopath. he said these three remedies of 200 potency should be given one after another in three days and the same medicines should be repeated in 1M potency after one week.it was after that higher potencies that her much improved condition began to take a relapse.now this pregnancy of her started i tested her TSH level and found that it was slightly high [6.1]. so i myself decided to give her calc carb 200. i checked her TSH level after one week and found that it had come down to 1.5. with this prescription her sciatica pain also disappeared. after four or five days i was compelled to give her lyco because there was awful flatulence in her stomach as part of her morning sickness.and yesterday she had a very slight vaginal bleeding.
pcthahir last decade
If Calc has to be given, take a break of at least 48 hours.
Given the case history, I recommend split wet dose to avoid any complication.
Get Calc 200 in dilution, say 15 ml sealed pack, from some reputed manufacturer. Give the bottle about 10 hard hits against your hand (required as the patient had the same potency last time). Dissolve 2-4 drops from the solution in some 500 ml of spring water. Shake a little and turn the bottle upside down a few times to allow it to dissolve properly. Take one capful as one dose.
No more dose...just one dose as advised.
Wish you and your wife all the very best. May GOD give you the pleasures of parenthood.
In case there are any problems, do post immediately.
Best wishes
Niel
Given the case history, I recommend split wet dose to avoid any complication.
Get Calc 200 in dilution, say 15 ml sealed pack, from some reputed manufacturer. Give the bottle about 10 hard hits against your hand (required as the patient had the same potency last time). Dissolve 2-4 drops from the solution in some 500 ml of spring water. Shake a little and turn the bottle upside down a few times to allow it to dissolve properly. Take one capful as one dose.
No more dose...just one dose as advised.
Wish you and your wife all the very best. May GOD give you the pleasures of parenthood.
In case there are any problems, do post immediately.
Best wishes
Niel
Niel Madhavan last decade
In the meanwhile give haer two tabs of Kali phos 6x and Ferrum phos 6x with slightly lukewarm water alternately at intervals of three water each. Stop this about 3 hours before taking the Calc dose and resume it about 6 hours after the dose.
Best wishes
Niel
Best wishes
Niel
Niel Madhavan last decade
what is meant by a sensitive patient in the context of homeopathic treatment? what is the relationship between sensitivity of a patient and potency of a homeo medicine?
pcthahir last decade
According to Dr Closes analysis the choice of dose depends on 5 factors:
The susceptibility of the patient.
The seat of the disease.
The nature and intensity of the disease.
The stage and duration of the disease.
Previous treatment of the disease.
1. Susceptibility is by far, the most important. Is dependent on age, treatment, constitution and character of the ailment and environment.
The more similar the remedy, the more clearly and positively the symptoms of the patients take on the peculiar and characteristic form of the remedy, the greater the susceptibility to that remedy and higher the potency required. As we know, the fine characteristic symptoms of remedies are developed in higher potencies only, whereas crude drugs only show gross changes. In cases where the pathological changes are prominent, low potencies are required; or in any case where three or four remedies seem equally indicated, it means that finer indications are wanting and only lower potencies are indicated.
Young, vigorous people are more susceptible; they need higher potencies. Similarly, delicate, sensitive, nervous, intellectual people need high potencies; coarse, torpid phlegmatic people need lower doses.
Terminal conditions deaden reaction. Only large doses can produce some reaction. If the grade of disease is low and the power of reaction is low, the remedy must be given low. In these cases finer shades of symptoms are absent. So, in terminal conditions or in gross pathological changes, resort to the crude drug and increase the dose to the point of reaction.
Environments and habits of life also should be considered in selecting of the dose. People exposed to the continual effects of drugs, tobacco-workers, druggists, chemical workers have less susceptibility to any drug, and need low potencies. Idiots and dull-witted persons need lower potencies.
2. Next in the seat, character and intensity of the patient. There is one more point omitted by Dr Stuart Close. The susceptibility increases as the remedy becomes more and more similar, and is the highest to 'simillimum'. If we apply this rule, it means, 'the more accurate our prescriptions become the higher we can go', with extremely gratifying results. Conversely, when in doubt about prescription, give low first to see the reaction.
The above material is extracted from
http://www.njhonline.com/2001/jan_feb_vol3_no1/cases/homoeop....
The susceptibility of the patient.
The seat of the disease.
The nature and intensity of the disease.
The stage and duration of the disease.
Previous treatment of the disease.
1. Susceptibility is by far, the most important. Is dependent on age, treatment, constitution and character of the ailment and environment.
The more similar the remedy, the more clearly and positively the symptoms of the patients take on the peculiar and characteristic form of the remedy, the greater the susceptibility to that remedy and higher the potency required. As we know, the fine characteristic symptoms of remedies are developed in higher potencies only, whereas crude drugs only show gross changes. In cases where the pathological changes are prominent, low potencies are required; or in any case where three or four remedies seem equally indicated, it means that finer indications are wanting and only lower potencies are indicated.
Young, vigorous people are more susceptible; they need higher potencies. Similarly, delicate, sensitive, nervous, intellectual people need high potencies; coarse, torpid phlegmatic people need lower doses.
Terminal conditions deaden reaction. Only large doses can produce some reaction. If the grade of disease is low and the power of reaction is low, the remedy must be given low. In these cases finer shades of symptoms are absent. So, in terminal conditions or in gross pathological changes, resort to the crude drug and increase the dose to the point of reaction.
Environments and habits of life also should be considered in selecting of the dose. People exposed to the continual effects of drugs, tobacco-workers, druggists, chemical workers have less susceptibility to any drug, and need low potencies. Idiots and dull-witted persons need lower potencies.
2. Next in the seat, character and intensity of the patient. There is one more point omitted by Dr Stuart Close. The susceptibility increases as the remedy becomes more and more similar, and is the highest to 'simillimum'. If we apply this rule, it means, 'the more accurate our prescriptions become the higher we can go', with extremely gratifying results. Conversely, when in doubt about prescription, give low first to see the reaction.
The above material is extracted from
http://www.njhonline.com/2001/jan_feb_vol3_no1/cases/homoeop....
♡ kadwa last decade
again nobody has explained the term 'sensitive'. does it mean tender hearted or easily affected by sunshine, wind, cold etc? i remember to have read that more sensitive persons require lower potency in vithoulkas's 'science of homeopathy'. am i right? please correct me if i have understood him wrongly.
pcthahir last decade
i gave my wife sulphur and calcarea. but her slight bleeding continues. she has no pain related with this bleeding.this spotting occurs only once or twice a day. blood is more brownish than red. for the past ten days or more, she has been showing some sulphur like symptoms. she does not like taking bath. she is not much concerned about her own cleanliness, but dislikes others' unpleasant smell as well as her own bad smells. she seems to have become more sensitive to odours. [perhaps this could be a pregnancy related sensitivity.] in her last pregnancy also, her attitude to cleanliness was like this. her hairs are prematurely going grey. sulphur does not seem to have changed her attitude. or am i hasty in getting at such a conclusion about sulphur? can i think of giving her psorinum at this stage? can i give psorinum directly after calcarea? is it safe to give psorinum in pregnancy since it is a nosod?
pcthahir last decade
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