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Attn: Kuldeep and others

I was reading a book 'Accurate hoeopathy' by Dr.Modi.Dr. Modi is a lecturer in a Bombay Homeopathic college.

He has many unconventional ideas.

He says, it is better, to use higher potencies, at lesser intervals for acute problems.

And lower potencies, to be repeated frequently in chronic problems.

This tallies with what Kuldeep is saying,as far as the chronic cases are concerned.

But the conventional wisdom says,give a potency(as high as possible) and wait for atleast three weeks, before reassessing the case.(For example Vithoulkus).

Which one is better and why?

(Though Dr.Modi gives justificatin for his thinking, I would like to hear your views.)

Murthy
 
  bandarbabu2000 on 2005-02-26
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Hello Mr. Murthy

I came into homeopathy from materials. I am an Engineer but always had extensive experience with medicine. My wife is doctor MD (Rehab. Medicine) but she thinks I know more. But since last three years I am extending my knowledge in Homeopathy.

For some reasons I had to stay in India for two years and I saw a person walking uncomfortably on the street. He said he had piles. I told him to come to my place and I will give him medicine.

I had a few seeds of Nux Vomica with me and I gave him one seed and told him to dip the seed in half liter of water and take few drops of that liquid two three times a day.

That man got better by each day, very fast very soon and he brought his friends and relatives to me. I was totally free those days and any visitor was welcome. Most of people coming to me were poor. I was giving them homeopathy medicine for free. I am a US citizen but a time came when I saw my recourses depleting very fast. Patients were coming in hundreds each day and I was spending money in thousands each day on patients.

I had extensive knowledge in Botany and medicine so I started making some medicines by myself and started inventing the ways for a common man to potentize the materials. I made Silica, Thuja, Stramonium, Hyocyamus, Antimony, Graphite and many many more, wherever I went and I saw a plant I just made Q. Now my cost to treat patients reduced significantly. Results were just marvelous. Many local homeopathy doctors started sending me their lost cases and always dropped by to chat with me. Soon I became a doctor of doctors; they were coming to me for treatment. In the course I met many remarkable homeopathy doctors and we all shared our experience.

Well Mr. Murthy you asked a question and you must know the background of the person whom you asked. My real name is not Kuldeep so who cares here. I am not telling you my story to fortify my ego.

So my medicines were all low potency and always inconsistent in nature. But results were amazing. I am just stuck with my experience here.

As far as constitunal remedy is concerned, my experience is not good. I don’t give any potency higher then 30 but on the other hand I have seen cases cured by high potency too. With high potency one must take precautions like no smell in atmosphere and no smelly foods etc. with low potency one does not need any precaution.

One day my friend who is a homeopathy doctor came to me and he used to stammer. I jokingly asked him he has tried Belladonna or Stramonium. He said he has tried most powerful homeopathy potency even those didn’t work. I asked what he means by most powerful potency he said millions that didn’t work. He made those potencies even more powerful buy using his head and diluted further.

There was a Stramonium plant growing outside the place and I asked a patient to fetch a leaf of it. I rubbed that leaf on that doctor on his pulse area and told him to come to me for some days.

He really came and he himself rubber the leaf. His stammering cured very soon and very fast. His family was wondering his friends all. So I started seeing patients with speech disorders and results were amazing. I was using diluted form of Belladonna Q and Stramonium (Of course rubbing the leaf is a Q form).

So Dear Murthy this is my experience. I am an adventurer and stay away from philosophies.

In April I came to USA again and my father is here he is chronic asthma patient and also a prescription drug addict. I had a present for him. That was Euphorbium Q diluted to approximately to 10C. Euphorbia is everywhere. He got relief after 25 years. His mucus is dried out totally. Even prednisone 25mg three times a day was not enough.

Here not many people know me a homeopathy doctor except my family and I have hundreds of herbs around me which are in material medica. I make best use of those herbs.

It started: I treated a patient one day with Nux Vomica Q.
kuldeep
 
kuldeep last decade
Mr. Murthy even correspondants from new papers came and published the stories.
 
kuldeep last decade
One of my close friend owns a Homeopathy medicine faciliy. Once a while I visit him and watch the process.

I question any potency about 30C or 6X.

But on the other hand I saw patient being cured by higher potency.
 
kuldeep last decade
One of my close friend owns a Homeopathy medicine faciliy. Once a while I visit him and watch the process.

I question any potency above 30C or 6X.

But on the other hand I saw patient being cured by higher potency.

PS.

It is very easy to cure Poor People even by Q grade. To cure rich peopel is extremely difficult. Poor people don't need any constitunal remedy.

Whenever they visited me they may had twenty problems but I asked for only one problem which they want to rid off first. No questions asked and no answer told just 30 second interview. Actually there I liked patient to just watch and some one who knew patient (friend or relative) tell me about patient.

kuldeep
 
kuldeep last decade
Dear Kuldeep,
Your experiences have been quite interesting to read.You have been successful with mother tinctures and"plant juices".They may be sufficient in curing one particular ailment of a patient but iam afraid they can't go deeper.Only higher potencies as have been again and again demonstrated and confirmed by majority of homeopaths can really cure a patient.Hahnemann switched over from crude drugs to potencies only because they had adverse effects and the way you are prescribing are bound to have side effects
 
madanbhms last decade
Dear Kuldeep

Really amazing.

There will always be contradictory opinions,and the proof of our correctness is in the smiles of people we treat.

Moreover, the smallest doses of even so called mother tinctures, you use, can't do any harm.

It is just a matter of coincidence, that you started posting, while I was reading that book.Naturally, I am curious, that there is a man here, who is curing chronic problems of patients, by using lowest potencies, and repeating them.

One problem at a time..The way you treat is definitely better than allopathy, and as long as the patient is happy, who are we to complain?

Incidentally, did you find all types of pilesgetting cured with the very low potencies of Nux.vomica seed?

When the patient says 'piles' won't you ask any further questions?

Are there any failure cases with the nux.seed?

You don't know how happy I am to meet you here.

Regards

Murthy
 
bandarbabu2000 last decade
Mr moorthy,
See in chronic diseases we have to monitor patients for a long time.he may come with a problem which may be troubling him much at that particular time and relieving it alone is not sufficient.what if we are only suppressing it.we need to have a broader look.At least one to two years have to be spent on a patient and he should improve on a whole not alone a single ailment like pilesor eczema.i was incidetally treating a patient with tuberculosis whose cough and blood spitting were considerably reduced but on the whole he began to feel weak and gradually lost his appetite which needed hospitalization.can we consider this improvement?
 
madanbhms last decade
Let us wait for the answer from Kuldeep.

The original question was can we cure chronic problems with low potencies,repeated frequently.Kuldeep's experince says 'yes'.

You can get the book accurate homeopathy from www.accuratehomeopathy.com.Dr.Modi also says the samething.

Now, as to the concept of curing one problem at a time,and whether it amounts to supppression, is a debatable question.

Suppose, if the patient got rid of the problem without any side effects,and getting any new problems, what else we want?

for that matter, even with classical homeopathy, do all the problems get cured simultaneously?

The layers theory also says, remove the layers one by one with different medicines.

It may not be correct to try to cute pileswhen the patient has other serious problems,but, if that is the only complaint,why not?

Murthy
 
bandarbabu2000 last decade
Treating a whole person or finding a constitutional remedy is a theory. I have lost cases, I will say about 20% of cases where my treatment didn’t respond.

If you ask a person several questions regarding his health, temper etc. his answers are influenced. You try to find a remedy by taking great pain and most of the times remedy does not work. Then you try to find another remedy next month and mean while patient runs away to see other doctor.

On the other hand

You live with a person, or work with a person you the person. You know his/her constitutional remedy and that remedy works like a magic.

Some time you are traveling on a train and your eyes catch a person and you observe him for a while and immediately you know his constitutional remedy.

For example my friend’s friend came to see me regarding his Psoriasis. He was suited and booted. He sat in the line with patients and I was observing him. Tea was being served. He was taking great caution to keep the crease of his clothes intact. A drop of tea fell down on his shirt and he got very nervous.

When his number came I asked him how he came here. He said he came on his own car. I asked may I look at his car he said sure. We went to his car and it was very clean, no spot at all. I looked inside and it was the cleanest car and everything was arranged systematically. Even his glove compartment was full with things but arranged neatly. I asked to see its trunk and it was full of stuff but everything was extraordinarily arranged neatly. I prescribed him Arsenum Album-30 and told him that I don’t even want to know why he came to see me. His Psoriases immediately started improving.

Constituently remedies work but are very difficult to find. I know constituently remedies of all my friends and relatives without even asking them one hundred questions.

There were many cases I met person with serious problems. I told them to join me on my vacation to Haridwar and they spent a week with me. Any medical talk was strictly prohibited during the vacation. When we came back I knew their remedies and it mostly worked.

The problem with a doctor is that a patient comes and does not have any knowledge about Homeopathy and he has a serious problem he want to rid of him. If a remedy won’t show any effect on his problem (upon which he is focused) he will run away to a different system or doctor.

This happened to me very often. I asked a patient what is the problem he wants to rid off first and we focused on only that problem. That problem went away. Patient is very happy and comes back with another problem. He comes back third time. This time we give him a long lecture and then we give him a simple book to study and suggested him to take time and find a constitutional remedy himself. He usually comes back with his own suggestions about his own constitutional remedy and discusses his case and goes back. If it does not work he has another one in his mind. Some patients became masters in finding constitutional remedies and they got busy finding constitutional remedy for other patients. Mean while I treated there worse problem. So we were operating a college.

I wrote a simple book about constituently remedies. It is a very raw book on MS Word. It needs lots of work and it is written for lay men. I wrote the book for the sake of patients so they won’t lick my head clean. It needs lots of work. Many people gave me their suggestions and I fixed it time to time. Many people have it and they modified it to their own knowledge. So there are many versions of this book are floating here and there. Most of them are better than my own copy.

The book is at:

http://www.geocities.com/kuldeep100/book.doc
 
kuldeep last decade
Dear Kuldeep
The fundamental principle in homeopathy is match the uncommon symptoms of the Dearpatient with similar symptoms of the remedy.No doubt if the both matches correctly any potency from mother tincture to CM is bound to have some effect.My question is how far can a low potency drug cure?Also inthe proving finer symptoms have come up only in potencies like 30c.Also my personal experience has been that when we use higher potencies even partly similar drugs are able to improve patients
 
madanbhms last decade
Dear Kuldeep

Your example of Arsenic album, is what Kent and tyler advocated,and they called them remedy pictures.

May be they and you were right.

But, I was havig a nagging doubt regarding the 'constitutional remedy'.

Hannemann says, what is important is the 'changed' symptoms, since the onset of disease.If the person is like that,scrupulously clean since birth, how can that be a symptom?

Yes, I am aware of another view of constitutional remedy.It is supposed to be any deviation from accepted 'normal' of the society.

I am still confused which view to take.Both schools have strong arguments for and against it.

since, you treated many patients, and are wiling to share with us, your opinion will be highly valued.

Is there any way to reconcile these two views, so that we can say in such and such cases, 'changed' symptoms are to be considered, and in such and such cases 'deviations from normal' are to be considered.

I, for one, will be most happy if I can differentiate like this, as I find merit in both the arguments.

Can you pl. clear the confusion?

Thank you for your time.

I will download your book.

Murthy
 
bandarbabu2000 last decade
I believe in few character extremes in choosing the remedy. I don't try to evaluate complete life style of a person because it is not possible.

It is futile to evaluate complete life style of a person. You can ask 100 questions and you get confused and pick one medicine from 100 and actually picking a medicine randomly may show the same results.

Like Arsinum Album personality is tidiness extreme and he gets neurotic and tense with any disorder with his stuff. Sulphur is unclean and aversion to amusement, this much is enough to pick Sulphur. Lycopodium personality is also well defined.

But if you ask a patient most probably you will miss the whole thing.

Actually these days I am working on a project. I want to link few remedies as constitutional remedies for each Zodiac sign.

I have found Belladonna for Cancer Sign. Cancerains tend to have bad habits, I recently replied to a post for bad habits. If you find a person with a bad habit like chewing nails, pulling hairs, moving tongue in his mouth and behind lips. If you ask the patient what is his Zodiac sign and you will be amazed, 90% people will be Cancer or on the cusp (on the edge). Belladonna is a magic medicine for them. It is their constitutional remedy. I tried Belladonna on those people and they get cured. Even they rid off the ailments which are not even mentioned in Belladonna Chapters of MM.

One day a principal from school came to me and asked if I can cure bad habits of children. I asked him to bring date of birth of each child with bad habits. He called me and said, “Is this a discovery of what, almost every child is born in June/July”. Ruler is moon. I told him to give a dose of Belladonna-30 to each kid each week.

He called their parents and told them that your child will be getting an expensive treatment, a doctor trained in Switzerland will be monitoring the case, each kid will be given a different medicine but very expansive. He made them pay money. Every kid got better and most of them cured for ever. News reached me and I didn’t like this. I made every effort to make this thing public.

Same way Lycopodium and Platina for Leo. If Leo is on the extreme Platina and if Leo is not heavily manifested Lycopodium will work.

I am still working on this side I will welcome if anybody shares his views in this subject.
 
kuldeep last decade
Dear Kuldeep,

You are very intersting person. all yr replies and posts are quite interesting to read. I am an engineer too, and seem to be develeping interest in the science of homeopathy...specially the way you take it.

regards

Lu
 
inneed last decade
Dear Lu

My sole purpose is to educate people about common materials. I came to homeopathy from materials.

There is a tree Abies Nigra in front of my home here in USA. When I first saw that tree I checked if it is in Materia Medica, and it was there. I read each and everything about it from all Material Medicas I had. Now I have this medicine so I was looking for Abies patients.

So I have a Robinia tree also on the street, Phytolacca, dulcamara, Burberis, Thuja are few names.

The main difference between me and other homeopaths is that they see a patient and search medicine. I see a medicine and search patient for it.

kuldeep
 
kuldeep last decade
Interesting discussion!
I am learning the split dose method of low dose (6c, etc up to 30C before LM)in watery doses for chronic cases, and higher doses of 30C (for hypersensitives), 200C and 1M for acute cases in watery doses as well. Works well! It is the 5th and 6th edition of Han. whereas the approach with higher doses are more Kentian in methodology.

Whatever works, and whatever potency you have available!

My experience is that many people need more of a crude susbstance (herbs, Mother Tinctures), at times, which can help them transition from Allopathic medicine into the more subtler energetic medicine of Homeopathy.

Best to you all,
Loree
 
loree last decade
I see so many people in many countries and even on this forum, they have no access to Homoepathy medicines. They have to order medicines from websites like this one and even from other countries. So many medicinal materials available around us but people are lacking basic knowledge to potentize the material.

People try a medicine and if it does not work they order another one and it takes a week and any experiment is costly. Long term user of a medicine has to pay a lots of money.

Many people can be cured by just using crude materials and using crude technique to potentize.

kuldeep.
 
kuldeep last decade
Can we have your email address. the ABC will allow email address, just write (at) in place od sign.
just to have you added in the list and get an advise from you as and when needed,

Regards

Lu.
 
inneed last decade
joyinhealing at gmail dot com
 
kuldeep last decade
Back to the original question about low potency and high potency.

Here is how I handle a patient with a chronic problem.

When I have already selected a medicine for patient and it is already working on the patient (Of course a medicine made from a raw material and, potency about somewhere between 6 to 10).

I give a patient just 10 days of medicine in a tiny bottle with a built in dropper.

A mark is made on the bottle with a diamond cutter. Mark is 9/10 away from the top or the bottom 1/10.

Patient is instructed that when bottle comes to the mark he is suppose to fill it with water and shake it at least 50 times. Patient is advised to use the medicine for one year or more.

If you suppose the medicine contains 10 days of dose. After about every 9th day potency is raised by one. So in one year potency is above 30. Potency is going up each 9th day.

If patient is happy with the medicine he never comes back to doctor and saves the doctor more medicine and an empty bottle plus time. Which usually happenes.

Kuldeep
 
kuldeep last decade
Dear Kuldeep
Very Interesting to read your experience, I am not a homeopath, just being wrongly treated by 15 different homeopaths over the last ten years, meanwhile my chronic ailments got worse and worse. Recently started reading homeopathy and witnessed quiet a miraculous healing within my family. If you are interested in my case, send me your email and i I will send you my entire case. I will be greatly obliged
I also liked the idea of using Zodiac sign with homeopathy, I think you are moving in the right direction. If my conviction is proved by people like you, homeopathy can benefit mankind incredibly

regards

Sazim
 
sazim last decade
Dear Sazim

Whenever I treat a patient I convert him into a homeopathy doctor. My email address is at my profile.

kuldeep
 
kuldeep last decade
It is really interesting to read your posts Kuldeep!
And esp. interesting was for me readinng about your experience with astrology in homeopathy.
Long time ago and on another forum we were "assigning" remedies to Zodiac signs but it was only for fun and had one deite flaw: wasn't based on clinical data.
Unlike yours.

We also joined Platina and Leo, however Lycopodium went to Cancer. We didn't use Belladonna (there are many remedies, 12 sun signs-we then thought about moon signs and acendant-but it became too overwhelming).

I remember well the list we made (please keep in mind that we were beginners, it wasn't based on clinical data and it was for fun ONLY (however I think there is a connection and if you write such book I want to buy it).

aries-argentum nitricum
taurus-veratrum alb
gemini-phosphorus
cancer-lycopodium
leo-platina
virgo-arsenicum album (esp.men)
libra-nux vomica
scorpio-lachesis
sagittarius-causticum
capricorn-anacardium
aquarius-sepia (women)
sulphur (esp. men)
pisces-pulsatilla

What do you think?We couldn't agree on gender differences.
 
Astra2012 last decade
Clinically Balladonna is Cancer medicine.

Platina and Lycopodium is for Leo (50% cases)

Pulsatill is for Libra. Libra is changing moods, always balancing always confused, Changing doctors. Needs Consuling.

For anything else I am not sure but I will study this list of yours carefully.

To me also it is an amusement. But as far as Cancer is concerned, Belladonna is an open and shut case.
 
kuldeep last decade
i noticed that people born at the end of their sign often behave like the next-and people born att the cup -like the previou sign -e.g. i know Capricorn born on Dec 22 who behaves like Sag. and Sag. born on Dec.20 who behaves like Capr.

And so your Lycopodium at the cusp of Leo isn't that far from our Cancer!

When I was reading about remedy essence some remedies reminded me of certain people I knew- and so my father, Libra, was like Nux vomica--that's the only reason why I "joined" these two.

I also knew a girl -virgo-like calc.carb. Some people proposed calc-c to be cancer.

Clinical validation however is the only way to know the connection.
 
Astra2012 last decade
Dont' underestimate Belladonna. It is a wonder medicine.

I too have some observations in this field. When Saturn is influencing in a person's Zodiac, hyperactivity increases. Mind is extremely difficul to focus and concentrate. People are more prone to miseries and accidents.

Misery as well as benefits both come simultaneously during Saturn period because hyperactive people start businesses etc and work hard. On the other hand they are so deep in their day dreams, accidents happen.

In those cases Belladonna-30 works wonder. One dose is enough for a week.

My friend is a truck driver in Toronto. One day he asked he can't concentrate on his driving and in those days he almost had 3 accidents and suddenly got 3 tickets and his carreer as a driver was at stake because of too many points on his driving lic.

I told him to take Belladonna-30 a weekly dose and he was amazed in few hours. Now he tells me hundreds of truckers in Toronto are now taking Belladonna.

If you are going on a long drive you take a dose of Belladonna. If you find yourself unable to focus on anything try Belladonna. If a kid is hyperactive try it.
 
kuldeep last decade

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