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Spinal fracture residuals & homeopathy

We began treatment of a terminally ill dog with a classical homeopathic veterinarian last week and I'm impressed. We've already seen some amazing results. I've become quite interested in homeopathy for my own benefit.

Six years ago I fractured five thoracic vertebrae. Two were ;literally crushed to powder. It still hurts like a low-grade toothache that never goes away. The pain is aggravated when I do anything with my hands when seated and leaning forward. In other words, it hurts worse to sharpen a saw chain with a file than it does to cut, split and throw firewood. I still take an average of one-half of a 10/325 percocet per day to help with the pain that never seems to quit. Of course, now that I've seen some empirical evidence of the benefits of homeopathy, I wondering if I can find a homeopathic way to work on my problem.

It seems as though Arnica Montana may be a good choice for back pain of arthritis but I;m not sure the pain is arthritic.

I went through the Remedy Finder software, tagging every applicable symptom and it came up with NATRUM MURIATICUM for:
* back; pain;
* back; pain; evening; ;
* back; pain; spine; ;
* back; pain; aching; ;
* back; pain; aching; better lying on the back;
* back; pain; as if broken;
* back; pain; sore, bruised, beaten;

but not relevant for:
* back; pain; worse bending forward;
* back; pain; while sewing; ;
* back; pain; as if struck with a hammer;
* back; pain; better throwing shoulders backward;
* back; pain; aching; afternoon; ;
* back; pain; aching; spine; ;
* back; pain; as if broken; shoulder blades; ;
* injuries and accidents; injuries of bone; ;
* injuries and accidents; shock from injury;

When I thinned the symptom list down to the following, the recommendation of Ruta Graveolens at 63% was offered.

* back; injuries of the spine; ;
* back; pain;
* back; pain; spine; ;
* back; pain; sore, bruised, beaten;
* injuries and accidents; injuries of bone; ;

Not relevant to the following.

* back; pain; worse bending forward;
* back; pain; better leaning back against chair;
* back; pain; while writing; ;

If I prioritize any of the non-relevant items, it all goes out the window with no strong recommendations for anything.

Any suggestions for best remedy and dosing protocol to try for my type of back pain?

Thanks,
Wil
 
  Wil_B on 2010-04-05
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
day 1 and day 2

Please take Ruta 30c thrice a day at a gap of 4 hours.

One dose means
If the medicine is in pills form 4 pills. Don't touch pills with hand. Use cap of bottle to take pills.
If the medicine is in liquid dilution form, 3-4 drops in some 20 ml water. Sip up slowly.

day 3 to day 15
Please take 4 pellets of calcarea phosphorica 6x thrice a day at a gap of 4 hours.

Please follow homeo restrictions like no coffee, no raw onion/garlic, no strong perfumes, don't eat or drink anything within 30 minutes before or after taking medicine.

Please report after 15 days.
 
kadwa last decade
Will the treatment fail if I drink coffee? If so, I need to try to wean off coffee before I begin. I've been having morning coffee for more than 30 years. If I don't have it, I get migraines.

Thank you kadwa. I'll get the remedies ordered in.
 
Wil_B last decade
Fortunately coffee doesn't antidote Ruta or calc Phos. Morning coffee is ok. One should avoid stimulants in excess as the vital force ignores the stimulation offered by homeo remedies and chases other stimulants.
 
kadwa last decade
That's good news kadwa. I will further limit my coffee. I never drink it throughout the day. Only first thing in the morning.

Just so I'm perfectly clear on this, the Ruta 30c dose is four pellets each dose to be taken three times a day?

My remedies are ordered and should be in hand no later than Friday.

Thank you,
Wil
 
Wil_B last decade
Just so I'm perfectly clear on this, the Ruta 30c dose is four pellets each dose to be taken three times a day?
**Yes.
 
kadwa last decade
Hi !

Fractures ,,,old or recent,,,,get healed up quickly (with amazing results) by using Symphytum...and the pain goes away.

The bones join and grow back into normal with this med.

I have seen it happen in case after case ...for years.

Take Symphytum Q (mother tincture) 7 drops in 1/8th glass of filtered water ...three times a day.

Continue for 3 weeks.

Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
From ABC site itself:


Symphytum Officinale

The root contains a crystalline solid, that stimulates the growth of epithelium on ulcerated surfaces. It may be administered internally in the treatment of gastric and duodenal ulcers. Also in gastralgia, and externally in pruritus ani. Injuries to sinews, tendons and the periosteum. Acts on joints generally. Neuralgia of knee.

Of great use in wounds penetrating to perineum and bones, And in non-union of fractures; irritable stump after amputation, irritable bone at point of fracture.

Psoas abscess. Pricking pain and soreness of periosteum.

Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Today morning I had gone on a social visit to the home of a patient.

He reminded me that last year on my recommendations he had taken Symphytum after he had met with a motor bike accident and had broken his jaw bone.

He could neither talk then or eat any thing.

He said :

' in three days after starting on Symphytum I could move my jaw normally and the pain was gone'.

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Another case:

A close friend slipped on a rocky surface and broke his hip bone (age 48 years).

The docs operated upon him and fixed a steel plate inside his hip and knee.

They told him..atleast 8 weeks you will be on bed.

I went to his house the day after the operation and carried a bottle of Symphytum mother tincture.

I told him: 'Take it as I say.'
Being a close friend and knowing about my skills in homeopathy..he followed the instructions completely.

I went back to see him after exactly one month.

He greeted me at his door with a hug.

When I asked him 'how are you ?'

He said: 'Walking like a soldier'.

I thought he was joking.

He made me sit in his large sized sitting room and then paced the floor from one end to the other three times like a soldier....and said 'Am I not walking like a soldier ?'.

I have seen the healing power of Symphytum over and over again for years and years.

Best wishes,

Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Dear Pankaj,

Thank you for this additional information. The remedy sounds wonderful. I'm finally gathering some hope that my back may be able to completely heal and free me from this nagging pain.

My ruta and calcarea phosphorica didn't arrive today as expected so they should be here tomorrow. I will use those in the recommended manner while ordering in the Symphytum for followup if the first course doesn't rid me of the nagging pain.

Thank you,
Wil
 
Wil_B last decade
Dr Kadwa, I received my remedies today. I was sent something different than what I ordered. Rather than regular calcarea phosphorica 6x, I received the cell salt variety of calcarea phosphorica 6x. I do not know if this is the same thing or not. Does it make a difference?

Wil
 
Wil_B last decade
Rather than regular calcarea phosphorica 6x, I received the cell salt variety of calcarea phosphorica 6x. I do not know if this is the same thing or not.
**It is the same thing. calc phos is a tissue/cell salt.

Pankaj has given you a good suggestion and you may use Symphytum for followup.
 
kadwa last decade
Arew you saying the calcarea phosphorica 6x (cell salt variety) is no good for your prescription to me and I shouldn't bother with it?

I do have this on hand now, along with the ruta, while it will be many days before I can possibly have Symphytum available to use.
 
Wil_B last decade
Please don't get confused. Calc Phos 6x is the right remedy for you. You should go ahead with our plan. In future if there is any need you may also take Symphytum.
 
kadwa last decade
Thanks Dr Kadwa. What I'm confused about is if the cell salt variety has the same efficacy as the regular homeopathic preparation for our plan. And if the dosage should be the same.

I understand the cell salts are made differently than a 'real' homeopathic medication and they are not as powerful.
 
Wil_B last decade
What I'm confused about is if the cell salt variety has the same efficacy as the regular homeopathic preparation for our plan. And if the dosage should be the same.
**The salts that take part in cell metabolism are cell salts. The remedies based on cell salts are called as cell salt remedies. As Dr. Schuessler used extensive use of these remedies and also simplified their applications these homeo remedies are more popularly know as Schuessler's tissue salts remedies.
These remdies are highly effective and the dosage should be the same.

I understand the cell salts are made differently than a 'real' homeopathic medication and they are not as powerful.
**Cell salts act best in low potency ie x potency. There is no difference in making homeo remedies and tissue salt remedies.

A homeo remedy is a stimulation to the vital force and it acts at dynamic plane. Therefore it is not repeated very often, we have Ruta 30 only for 2 days in our plan. The tissue salt remedy acts at nutritional plane and you can see that it is repeated often in our plan.
 
kadwa last decade
Thank you. I began with the ruta today.
 
Wil_B last decade
Dear Wil !

I posted some info on Cell Salts in 2003 here at ABC. I am reproducing the same.

In those days we used to indulge in some light-hearted but harmless banter with each other. (In some posts you will notice that). In subsequent years I stopped doing so coz. some people didn't like it and we got into a more serious mode with the work involved.

(I must admit, in 2003 I joined this site for giving advice as well as having some fun. In about a year I realised that a lot of serious work had to be done for people who were seeking guidance).

See Below :

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Cell salts
From tigerduck on 2003-09-07
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can anyone aim me in the right direction about the 12 cell salts. i have been study in a class for 5 months. they are not study this information is this the same as homeopathic or is it different.

tigerduck
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Re: cell salts From PANKAJ VARMA on 2003-09-07

They are different for Tigers and different for Ducks ? For whom do you want?

Any ways, tomorrow morning I will tell you all about their History and Chemistry ....

Best,
PANKAJ VARMA
pvarma7 at yahoo.com
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Re: cell salts From PANKAJ VARMA on 2003-09-07

They are different for Tigers and different for Ducks ? For whom do you want?

Any ways, tomorrow morning I will tell you all about their History and Chemistry ....

Best,
PANKAJ VARMA
pvarma7 at yahoo.com
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Re: cell salts From PANKAJ VARMA on 2003-09-09

HELLO TIGER !!

Got to keep my promise with you.

CELL SALTS - HISTORY.

Also known as 12 TISSUE REMEDIES. The theory was proponded by Dr. WILHELM HEINRICH SCHUSSLER in a Medical Journal in Germany in the year 1873.

Although , some research on the topic had been done by others as well from 1832 onwards.

This branch of Homeopathy is known as Bio-chemistry. Though, over the years some homeopaths refused to accept it as part of Homeopathy.

It is generally accepted as a branch of homeopathy >>> in many ways an effective branch.

CELL SALTS - BIO-CHEMISTRY.

Briefly, the concept is that everything in the human body is made from cells which keep renewing themselves in a specified time span.

Twelve in-organic salts make the cells or contribute to the formation/cleansing of the blood in the body. Apart from the organic matter we consume as food.

Deficiency of one or a combination of more than one of the salts leads to disease. By providing the necessary salt/ combination of salts >>>out of the 12 >>> to the body results in elemination of the disease.

The salts also act as preventives.

The twelve TISSUE REMEDIES OR CELL SALTS ARE:

1. CALCAREA PHOS.
2. CALCAREA FLOURICA
3. CALCAREA SULPH.
4. FERRUM PHOS
5. KALI MUR
6. KALI SULPH.
7. KALI PHOS
8. MAGNESIA PHOS.
9. NATRUM MUR
10. NATRUM PHOS
11.NATRUM SULPH.
12. SILICEA (made from sand)

The system is effective if disease is detected early and corrective measures taken promptly.

Also effective as a preventive for disease.

You might have seen, in may of my posts on this Message Board, I have suggested the use of some cell salt or the other or a combination.

Many companies market the combinations known as 28 CELL SALT COMBINATIONS for specific states of the human body. Example >>> for Fever combination No. 11. Skin disorders No. 20 .... like that !

If you wish to go into a depth of the Cell salt theory and practice>>>> please read... THE TWELVE TISSUE REMEDIES OF SCHUSSLER by BOERICKE & DEWEY.

Many websites on Homepathy also give a detailed account of the Cell Salts and the Combinations.

From one Tiger to another Tiger....

Best,
PANKAJ VARMA


Re: cell salts From logical on 2004-04-12
Mr. Verma,

Thanks for informations. When we look at the chemical composition of human body, more than about 98% of our total inorganic part/minerals are covered under these just 12 salts. Balance portion are some other trace elements. In consideration of this, can we consider that these just 12 remedies can handle 98% of all our disorders?


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Re: cell salts From PANKAJ VARMA on 2006-05-28
Brought this up for Peet69 and Bekind2others.
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Re: cell salts From kuldeep on 2006-05-28
Out of all these cell salts, I put Silicea on the top.

Animals have better immunity because they eat grit along with the food. About 10 years before, flour was ground on the rock mills so it always added some Silicea but these days flour is ground on steel mills.

In India, there are few water flour mills left, although rare (on canals or in the mountains) people stand in lines to pay double the cost to grind wheat and other grains because that flour contains Silica and it keeps immunity perfect. Whenever there is a serious sickness in the home, people travel several miles to get the grain grinded from stone mills (althought they dont' know the reason behind it)

People wait for their turns to fetch water from hand pumps situated on the canals, because that water is pumped from very low cavities and contains Silicea.

Silicea is a very important suppliment for human body.
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Re: cell salts From Daisy43 on 2006-05-28
My Q on cell salts (I have the bioplasma 12-salt combo) is whether it interacts in any way with 'standard' homeopathic remedies. Is there a downside in taking bioplasma every day, for instance, whether or not you are taking other remedies? And is there a reason, such as the very low potency of cell salts?

Thanks!
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Re: cell salts From PANKAJ VARMA on 2006-05-28
Hay Folks !!

If u r taking the 12 salt combo....known as no. 28 ....it works as a tonic for many ailments across the board.

However, it is capable of anti-doting some of the homeo meds.

No harm taking the 12 salt combo for 3 weeks in a month. Can repeat it for another cycle of three weeks.

From Vinfern on 2006-06-01
Dear Mr.Varma,

thanks for posting such detailed info on Cell salts. I am planning to get some for my self.
Just a quick question will this help with kids with serious food allergies and Eczema.
At your convinence will you please check my post on this forum:
http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/29521/
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Re: cell salts From PANKAJ VARMA on 2006-06-01
Yes ...there is a cell salt combination for 'Skin' ailments.
Just give that.
See combination number from Willmar Schwabe site.
Best,
Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Continue with Ruta until you get Symphytum...as Ruta is capable of reducing your pain.

Cal.Phos. is great for teeth and bones.

Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
I've always had the feeling that my ongoing back pain is the result of 'roughness' left on the surface of the healed fractures. Especially the two that were crushed nearly to oblivion. If this impression is true, I'm very hopeful the homeopathic treatment can help by smoothing things over.

It sounds like Calc Phos 6x cell salt is most useful as a nutritional supplement while Ruta and Symphytum are truer homeopathic medications.

Since Calc Phos works on the nutritional plane and is good for my bones, would it be counter productive to take the calc phos cell salt along with the Symphytum mother tincture? Would the cell salt antidote the Symphytum?

I don't have much to report after taking the Ruta for a day. My thoracic spine does feel a little differently. No change in the level of pain but a slight change in the type of the pain. Now it feels like a hand around my vertebrae that is squeezing very tightly.

The Symphytum is ordered and on the way. I should have it in three days. I will also be receiving the proper non-cell salt variety of calc phos 6x.

Wil
 
Wil_B last decade
Calc. Phos and Symphytum will act in a complimentary way.

One day of use of Ruta...is too early to say anything substantial.


Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Pankaj, per your suggestion I have continued with Ruta. Day two was more painful. I'm just now completing day three and it is much better. I have not taken any of the calc phos cell salts.

Question: will my cup of morning coffee antidote the Symphytum?

Wil
 
Wil_B last decade
I would request you to avoid coffee for 10 days.

By that time Symphytum would have done the major part of the job.

By taking second dose of Ruta...your pain increased for a while...we call it homeopathic aggravation...it is a sign of healing taking place.

Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Well, my treatment plan isn't going too well. It seems I've chosen a very bad supplier even though my homeopathic vet suggested I do business with them.

I still don't have all of my order that was placed on April 6 but was assured last Monday it would be sent right away. Then I made the additional mistake of ordering my Symphytum from them with their assurance it would be shipped with the other item on Monday. When I had received nothing by Friday, I called and found out the Symphytum was probably going to be shipped that day and the other was shipped earlier in the week.

I think they should change the 'Overnight' portion of their name to 'Maybe sometime in the same month if you're really lucky'.

So anyway, I've taken all of my Ruta, still don't have the proper calc phos 6x and who knows when I'll ever be getting my Symphytum Mother Tincture from this supplier.

Wil
 
Wil_B last decade
Maybe it arrives 2moro morning !! I am sure those guys want to remain in business !!
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
After more tomorrows, I finally do have my Symphytum and the proper calc phos 6x remedies in hand.

To recap, I have taken all of the Ruta and have been taking the cell salt variety of calc phos 6x. I have noticed only very slight improvement. So slight that I'm not sure it really happened.

I will now begin taking Symphytum mother tincture at a rate of 7 drops in 1/8th glass of filtered water, three times a day for three weeks.

Should I take the non-cell salt calc phos 6x in conjunction with the Symphytum?

Thanks,
Wil
 
Wil_B last decade

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