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To Shahuja

You stated:
'Lately, when I had contacted this forum I was having acid and gas at extreme and had a visit to gastro specialist and have been advised endoscopy.

THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT I FEELING BETTER WITH YOUR THERAPY. At least my food is getting digested and am feeling better throughout the day and night. I am NOT noticing blood from last 2 days now. Also, the blood was not much, just little tied up in acid.
Also, I would like to stop this throwing up acid in morning because of stress or whatsoever.'

I am relieved to note that your report of vomiting blood is obviously NOT caused by my default Nat Phos / Arnica therapy which I have prescribed to hundreds, perhaps thousands of patients I have treated in Sri Lanka and on the many Homeopathic forums that I visit. I am also aware that many Indian homeopaths (qualified) also prescribe these 2 remedies as their default therapy for GERD as I believe that they have discovered that it is by far better than the standard remedies that they were trained to use during their studies.

You have absolutely nothing to fear from my therapy in spite of the dire warnings of the other homeopath who I believe cannot accept my Joepathy as it invariably works to cure the patient. It seems to me that he is anxious and is even hoping that you report that the blood is due to either an overdose or as he stated a 'proving' of the 2 simple and harmless remedies that hundreds of patients have used during the past 25 years of my involvement in Homeopathy (non classical Joepathy of course). My aim is to cure the patient and not bicker about the niceties of classical homeopathy, which is best likened to a blinker over the eyes of the student of classical homeopathy to train him to not see the 'wood for the trees.'

Since you are anxious to have a remedy for your anxiety and nervousness, you can take Nat Mur 6x dose 2 tablets taken twice daily. Leave an hour between remedies.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
So as per you I should continue Arnica and NP. I have full faith in homeo about its non serious side effects.

Also, if you could answer the queries sent in previous note-

2)Is there anything I can take to relieve my stress. Most of the time I do not sleep properly and have stress.

3) What should I do about my low levels of Iron Calcium and potassium? I had to undergo test but due to the fear of levels probably more disturbed I am avoiding it.
I am little worried for these as I can feel the weakness in my legs and joints if I walk more.



4) Can GERD cause problem in conceiving and during pregnancy if I plan for 2nd child?

5) Lastly please advise the diet for GERD as I read having fruits increases the pottasium and calcium but I cant eat banana and orange during GERD I believe. Also, I am not taking milk. I feel tired and exhausted all the time.

Thanks a lot.
 
shahuja last decade
I can see that you do not read the entirety of my reply to you and shall copy the last 2 paragraphs below:

I am relieved to note that your report of vomiting blood is obviously NOT caused by my default Nat Phos / Arnica therapy which I have prescribed to hundreds, perhaps thousands of patients I have treated in Sri Lanka and on the many Homeopathic forums that I visit. I am also aware that many Indian homeopaths (qualified) also prescribe these 2 remedies as their default therapy for GERD as I believe that they have discovered that it is by far better than the standard remedies that they were trained to use during their studies.

You have absolutely nothing to fear from my therapy in spite of the dire warnings of the other homeopath who I believe cannot accept my Joepathy as it invariably works to cure the patient. It seems to me that he is anxious and is even hoping that you report that the blood is due to either an overdose or as he stated a 'proving' of the 2 simple and harmless remedies that hundreds of patients have used during the past 25 years of my involvement in Homeopathy (non classical Joepathy of course). My aim is to cure the patient and not bicker about the niceties of classical homeopathy, which is best likened to a blinker over the eyes of the student of classical homeopathy to train him to not see the 'wood for the trees.'

Since you are anxious to have a remedy for your anxiety and nervousness, you can take Nat Mur 6x dose 2 tablets taken twice daily. Leave an hour between remedies.

Answering your questions point by point:

2 Answered above.

3 I cannot help you with your 'low levels of Iron Calcium and potassium'

4 I do not think that 'GERD cause problem in conceiving and during pregnancy if I plan for 2nd child'. It is the PPI drugs that you were taking that could affect the unborn baby. Suggest you do not think of another pregnancy for at least 3 months after your GERD is stabilized to give your next baby the best conditions to grow normally. You may take the Nat Phos and Arnica safely even during pregnancy as they will not affect the baby.

5 All you need to do is to not eat fatty food, preserved meats like sausages that contain Saltpeter, beverages like coke and limit your coffee to just a cup per day. Fruits are OK and exercise when you feel like it is essential. Drink plenty of water.

Suggest you do a test for your Thyroid functions which can be the reason for your 'feeling tired and exhausted all the time.'
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Thanks Mr Joe, I'll get my Thyroid levels tested again.

As I had told you I am feeling better with your advise, the only thing which is different is am having headache. Earlier I was having too much of Gas, now it's acidity and I feel it's on my head. Can you advise something for acidity? It's so bad at times that I cannot open my eyes and feel like talking.

Also, my hand is going numb while I sleep. Could this be because of my low iron?

Please advise what to do to improve overall mental and physical health both. My health is deteriorating day by day.
 
shahuja last decade
Also, I feel dizzy and suffocated around 6 in morning,my heart beat also runs fast during this time and I feel low and depressed in mornings.
 
shahuja last decade
Are any of these symptoms (dizzy, suffocated, rapid heart beat, depression) new symptoms for you Shahuja?
 
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
Yes, they appear pretty new to me as my life is going normal. I believe they can happen with anyone when someone has a reason, I probably have felt it when my mother was in last stages of cancer.
 
shahuja last decade
Attention: Mr Joe
I forgot to tell you the gastro specialist here advised me to go for endoscopy and H Pylori test. I don't want to go for endoscopy but can i take H Pylori blood test.
I felt relieved from natrum phos for few days, but today I am feeling very acidic, after eating I had nasty burps and felt the I would vomit the food.
I have taken 6 tabs of natrum phos just now.
 
shahuja last decade
I agree with you that there is no need to do an endoscopy and I shall be interested to have the results of the H Pylori test.

I note that the Nat Phos you are taking is not helping you as it did in the past.
Robina Pseudacacia (Yellow Locust) 3c in the Wet dose taken twice daily can help you.

Continue to take the NP as prescribed but I would prefer if you do not take 6 tablets as a normal routine. How did you respond to the 6 tablets?

Eat small meals but often to enable your stomach to return to normal as it seems to have been ravaged by the drugs especially the Pantaprazole you have been prescribed.

The Wet dose of any Homeopathic remedy is made as follows:

Order the remedy in a 5ml Ethanol pack also referred to as Liquid Dilution in a bottle preferably with a dropper arrangement.
Get a 500ml bottle of Spring Water from the nearest supermarket.
Pour out about 3cm of water from the bottle to leave some airspace.
Insert 3 drops of the remedy into the bottle and shake the bottle hard before you sip a capfull of the bottle or a large teaspoonful which is the dose.
Shaking the bottle hard is homeopathic succussion and this shaking must be done every time before sipping a capful of the bottle twice daily.

Have you taken the Nat Mur 6x as prescribed and if so has it helped you in any way?
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Hello Mr. Joe,
I am writing to you after a long time. Last 15 days I was much better, the H Pylori was negative.
The acidity is much better, just some gas after having food.
I am still continuing the medicine.
But I am quite disturbed with sore throat and nasal congestion, earlier I thought it's because of changing weather but it's been 15 days and I start coughing at night while I'm lying flat.
Can you advise something for sore throat?
Also, wanted to tell you whenever I take paracetamol or any pain killer, my stomach immediately reacts and acid reflux kicks off, what medicine should I keep at home for fever, cold, cough etc.
How long should I continue Natrum phos?
 
shahuja last decade
To Shahuja


I have spent a lot of time in advising you but you have not replied to my question which I copy from my last post below:

'Have you taken the Nat Mur 6x as prescribed and if so has it helped you in any way?'

You must understand that a prescription on a Homeopathic forum like the ABC is given without any direct contact with the patient based on the symptoms listed. It is impossible for the prescriber to continue to help the patient unless s/he indicated if the remedy prescribed was taken precisely as prescribed and what the patient's response was.

I note that you continue to add symptoms of your other ailments but you do not answer my questions on your response to my therapy.

If you still wish that I continue to advise you, I must know precisely what remedies you are using and how often you take them and what your response has been to these remedies.

Please note that if you still refuse to answer my questions you will compel me to withdraw from your case.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Hello Mr Joe,
Apologies for not noticing. I couldn't find Nat Mur in the store where I buy homeo medicine from, By the time I could order from internet I had started feeling better and thought Nat Mur is mainly for psychological symptoms. Please suggest should I compulsorily take it with Natrum phos.

Also, I was looking for Robina Pseudacacia (Yellow Locust) 3c, did not find this also. I have asked somebody to get it from India.

I am quite surprised that few days I feel better both physically and mentally and than I am back to square one with yellow acid vomit. I am still continuing with Natrum phos and Arnica. The throat is so bad that it pains while speaking and coughing. Please suggest.
 
shahuja last decade
Glad to note that you have recovered in a few days in spite of not following the therapy precisely as I prescribed it to you :
'I am quite surprised that few days I feel better both physically and mentally and than I am back to square one with yellow acid vomit. I am still continuing with Natrum phos and Arnica. The throat is so bad that it pains while speaking and coughing. Please suggest.'

I was also intrigued by the dire warnings of the brisbanehomeopath in his posts of October 25 who was convinced that you were proving Arnica because his classical training convinced him that Arnica was the cause of your problem. I hope that he will now withdraw this statement if he reads this post and accept that Joepathy does work when classical homeopathy often does not.

I do not know how many tablets of Nat Phos 6x you are taking but it is possible that if you increase the dosage to about 4 tablets after a meal especially dinner, that it will help you to overcome your 'yellow acid vomit'. Please report on this problem weekly as it is not normal

Please note that you will have to take Arnica daily for the rest of your life after you are cured of your GERD by the Nat Phos 6x. You are advised to keep a stock always available at home and in office and even in your handbag as many of my patients have reported that a couple of tablets helped them to overcome their problem with GERD which is sometimes caused by some fatty food which is difficult to digest.

I must admit that there were times when I felt that I was just wasting my time trying to help you as you were not following my therapy precisely and also because of other homeopaths interfering with my therapy which I was convinced was the only one that could help you judging by the many hundreds of similar cases that I have helped for the last 25 years. I am glad that I did not withdraw from your case of classic GERD which you suffered from for some years and you will soon be cured but you must be warned that you will always have to be aware that certain foods can cause some gastric disturbance and this is when you will have to reach for the Nat Phos 6x which you will not have to take daily like the Arnica for the rest of your life.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Hello Mr Joe,
Thanks for your prompt reply.

I will take Arnica as advised by you.And Natrum phos until the GERD is fully cured and will keep the stock. Hope it doesn't have any side effect.
I'll tell somebody from India to get the liquid dilution of Arnica as as per you it's more effective.

It was my mistake that I started eating heavy food as I was perfectly alright for a week without any gas or acidity. But now I think it gets triggered off with heavy food and during my monthly cycle.
Should I take Nat Mur??
Also, please suggest what medicine should I keep for general problems like Fever,bodyache,cold, cough etc as immediately after paracetamol I feel acid reflux.
Can I take milk as my calcium is running low and some fruits for potassium?
 
shahuja last decade
I shall copy my default therapy for GERD which will give you some food for thought.


You are suffering from GERD (Gastro Esophagal Reflux Disease) due to the Gastric Juice in your stomach refluxing up to your throat thereby causing the symptoms that you suffer from today.

Your remedies are as follows:

Nat Phos 6x dose 3-4 tablets taken immediately after each of 2 meals
Arnica 30c in the Wet dose taken twice daily.

You can expect relief from your ailment hopefully within 24 hours.
Do not eat large meals. Eat small meals but more often if you feel hungry.
No fatty food, alcohol, coffee, preserved meats like sausages, ham, bacon as they contain Saltpeter which will antidote the remedies listed immediately.

The Wet dose of any Homeopathic remedy is made as follows:

Order the remedy in a 5ml Ethanol pack also referred to as Liquid Dilution in a bottle preferably with a dropper arrangement.
Get a 500ml bottle of Spring Water from the nearest supermarket.
Pour out about 3cm of water from the bottle to leave some airspace.
Insert 3 drops of the remedy into the bottle and shake the bottle hard before you sip a capfull of the bottle or a large teaspoonful which is the dose.
Shaking the bottle hard is homeopathic succussion and this shaking must be done every time before sipping a capful of the bottle twice daily.

Type GERD into the Search box on every page to read the many cases that I have treated on the ABC.


Please visit the links below which record the cases of other patients whom I have treated for GERD.

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/66811/

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/25315/

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/209144/

STOP using all other drugs and report progress in a week.



Answering your questions:

You cannot eat large meals as you have already seen the result. In any case as a woman you should not do so as it will only lead to fat.
Exercise is essential for at least half hour daily to sweat it out.

Treat colds with

Ferr Phos 6x dose 3 tablets taken every 2 hours on the first sign of a catching a cold.

Sore Throat

Bryonia 200 in the Wet dose used as a gargle every 3 hours and the mouthful swallowed.

Fever

If Viral Eupatorium Perf 200c in the Wet dose taken every 3 hours.
If otherwise Bryonia 200, Gelsemium 200, Oscillococcinum 200 .

Do NOT take Paracetemol as it will not only cause GERD but it will also affect your liver.

Non Fat Milk is OK.

Eat all the fruits you wish to.

You do not need Nat Mur.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Since I have been invited to comment on this post I shall do so. This is purely a comment on how this case is progressing, not my opinion of the allopathic prescribing being used.

Let us have a look at what is happening here. These are the comments the patient has made to you.

What is Shahuja suprised about? Not improvement, what she says is.

'few days I feel better then I am back to square one...the throat is so bad that it pains while speaking and coughing.'

Back to sqare one is not improvement, it means going back to where the complaint was at the beginning. What appears to surprise her is that the treatment is not lasting. Not only that, a symptom is becoming even more worrying for her. This symptom is worse and has been worse for 16 days.

'I started eating heavy food as I was perfectly alright for a week without any gas or acidity. But now I think it gets triggered off with heavy food and during my monthly cycle.'

Here we have the aggravating factors/triggers being unaffected by your prescription. This is not what should be happening on a curative remedy, which would remove those modalities.

'I am quite disturbed with sore throat and nasal congestion, earlier I thought it's changing weather but it's been 15 days...'

This was the earlier post. As you can see something is wrong here. On a sucessful prescription a patient says they are LESS disturbed, they should not be complaining that something is either unaffected, or is worsening.

'I felt relieved from natrum phos for a few days but today I am feeling very acidic, after eating I had nasty burps and felt then I would vomit the food.'

'As I told you I am feeling better with your advice, the only thing which is different is I am having headache. Earlier I was having too much gas, now it's acidity and I feel i's on my head...It's so bad at times that I cannot open my eyes and feel like talking.'

'Also my hand is going numb...'

And this is the orignial post that made me step in initially. New symptoms developing after treatment is a very bad sign, especially when they are causing WORSE suffering for the patient.

This patient is not better, this patient is worse. New symptoms, worsening symptoms - it is a mess. It is possible the original complaint has been suppressed - when new symptoms appear and there is more suffering, that is usually what that means. Suppression will harm the patient in the long term.

From the beginning this patient told you that her response to Nat-phos was not good. You have ignored her, as you do other patients who try to give you negative feedback, and insisted she continue.

So now we have a patient that only gets relief when she continues Nat-phos, and even then it is only for one small part of her case. Many symptoms are not curing or some could be worsening. There is no ordered follow-up to check direction of cure, to check the overall general progress of her case.

This is exactly the sort of case I would expect to come limping in from an orthodox doctor's surgery.

A patient on the correct remedy should be experiencing the following:-

1. Relief of ALL symptoms especially the general and mental ones.

2. No new symptoms appearing.

3. A reduction in the suffering of the patient.

4. A diminishing of the need to complain - patients as they are being cured become much less inclined to worry about their symptoms as the suffering becomes much easier to bear.

5. Improved energy, restful sleep, improved immunity, calmness.

What will happen when a patient is on the incorrect medicine:-

1. Only some of the symptoms improve. Many symptoms will remain untouched.

2. Some symptoms may worsen, or change location, or develop new qualities.

3. New symptoms will appear, either from the use of a remedy that causes them (as per the law of similars) or because the chronic disease is not being addressed (and is continuing to create a more complex disease).

4. The patient's overall suffering increases.

5. The patient begins to complain about new things, or things that weren't the main issue previoulsy.

6. The patient remains tired, cranky, nervous, anxious, emotional. The patient continues to catch acute illnesses frequently, does not feel rested properly by sleep, or cannot sleep well when they try.
 
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
One should not be too quick to see the results one wants to see. Not only does a practitioner need to be objective about the patient when taking a case, but they need to be objective when assessing a remedy as well. The most important thing is to LISTEN to the patient, and determine without bias if your prescription is CURING them.

In another thread that is current this problem I can see with your follow-up skills is also apparent:-

http://abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/249278/

the patient reported a slight improvement in one symptom, with no change in the others. However, you go on to declare

' re-read the last paragraph of your first post and can visualize and sympathize with the depth of your suffering from GERD for over 6 years which my therapy helped you to overcome in just 24 hours.'

You haven't helped her to overcome anything. Which is more important, actually helping the patient, or just having people believe you are? I know which one it looks like to me by watching the cases you take on.

I wonder, looking at this particular answer, if you even bother reading the feedback they give you. This patient says that she has been suicidal because of the fogginess - fogginess that has been unaffected at the time of your reply by your treatment in any way. So how do you think this patient has 'experienced relief'?

These are situations where lack of training and medical experience clearly lets someone down. Homoeopaths have developed the concept of Direction of Cure and Hierarchy of Symptoms for a reason, precisely to avoid this kind of problematic follow-up.

Patients coming to a homoeopath need to know this, so that they can understand when a prescription is working and when it is not - ALL YOUR SYMPTOMS WILL IMPROVE OR DISAPPEAR WHEN THE CORRECT MEDICINE IS PRESCRIBED. Getting anything less means that the remedy is not the right one, and a new better remedy should be selected.
 
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
What is Direction of Cure?

Symptoms will move from more important parts of the body to less important parts. Symptoms will disappear in reverse order that they appeared in. Symptoms will move from the middle of the body to the outer parts, or will move downwards from the head towards the feet.

Why is direction of cure important?

It tells you if you have stopped or reversed the disease with the remedy. It tells you if the disease is worsening or not. It tells you if you have accidentally suppressed the illness.

Direction of Cure is a fundamental part of patient management, and is a very important difference between us and many other modalities, including allopathy.

What is the Hierarchy of Symptoms?

This is the order of importance of the various organs in the body, and even of the various emotions, general functions (like sleep)and mental aspects of a human being.

Why does a practitioner need to know the hierarchy?

Mainly so that they know which direction the patients symptoms are going in. If the lungs are worse but the skin is better, this is the wrong direction. If the bowels are worse but the brain is better, then direction is still good.

Understanding something about Direction of Cure and the Hierarchy of Symptoms actually gives patients some ability to judge for themselves the validity of ANY therapy, whether homoeopathy, allopathy, herbs, acunpuncture - anything. It empowers them to make proper choices about their treatments, and removes the 'authority' of the practitioner who may cloud their treatment in esoteric or mystical lore.
 
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
To David

I am glad you responded to my request that you did so.

I note your comments with regard to the CURE of the patient and I do believe that Shahuja's digestive system will not permit a complete cure due to her present physical condition. I have noticed this phenomenon in the case of many patients whom I have treated for GERD especially in the case of those older than her that the majority have to depend on Nat Phos after almost every meal and invariably after dinner as their digestive system seems unable to cope with the food they eat. This is by no means an uncommon phenomenon as they grow older as the digestive system is influenced by not only the food consumed by the patient but it is also affected by factors such as exercise and the liquid intake all of which are finely balanced to ensure a status of good health.

As no doubt you will realize it is far preferable that the patient takes both NP and Arn on a daily basis in place of the PPI drugs which are standard prescribed by their doctors and you have only to check Google under 'Danger of using PPI drugs' to realize how they slowly poison the patient in the long run and what is worse also contribute to hook the patient for life to these drugs merely to survive.

It is ironic that a nephew of mine who is a qualified MBBS doctor with about 40 years of experience and who often has a meal with me at home, was in the habit of popping a tablet into his mouth after every meal for about 20 years. I inquired what the tablet was and he informed me that it was a digestive tablet which I later discovered was a PPI drug which he confirmed he had been taking twice daily for over 15 years. To cut a long story short, he was in Quadruple Bypass surgery 6 weeks ago and is still recovering at home. I had offered my default Nat Phos / Arnica therapy to him but he derided Homeopathy when I offered it to him 15 years ago and he finally paid for his disdain with his surgery. He is now my patient.



It is possible that if the patient presenting GERD eats smaller helpings at each meal and even increases the number of meals to 4 or 5 when smaller quantities are eaten at each sitting, there is a possibility that the patient can wean him/herself from Nat Phos. This will take some time of course for the stomach to readjust but I have only one patient who has successfully weaned herself from depending Nat Phos which in any case is absolutely safe for daily use. She insists on taking the Arnica 30c as she feels like me that it is a life saver.

I am copying below the notes of Dr Schuessler on this remedy which I presume you have already studied in College.

Natrium Phosphoricum

Sodium and Phosphate ions are to be found in our body in the muscle, nerve and brain cells, in the blood corpuscles and in the tissue fluids. According to Dr Schuessler, Nat Phos splits the lactic acid, which is produced by the work of muscles into carbonic acid and water. The carbonic acid is absorbed by the sodium phosphate and brought to the lungs where it is eliminated in the process of breathing. If sodium phosphate is lacking, there results an excess of lactic acid and consequently a sour taste, heart burn, sour stools, vomiting of sour, caseous matter, particularly in babies who are overfed with sugar and milk. If lactic acid reaches the lymphatic glands, the albumin of the lymph glands coagulates and the gland begins to swell. In the initial stages of swelling of the lymphatic glands therefore, Nat Phos has a healing effect because it can split lactic acid. Nat Phos further assures that the uric acid of the blood which is formed by the splitting up of the albuminous substance is kept in solution and secreted by the kidneys. Should this not be the case, uric acid will be deposited in the joints. The sequels are Rheumatism. Gout, Sciatica, Lumbago. In the Gall, Nat Phos saponifies the fatty acids which have been consumed with the food. It is hence indicated against digestive disturbances resulting from excessive consumption of fat.

You may like to know that my research based on the reports of patients and also my own experience with Nat Phos which I take sometimes after a meal especially dinner, confirms my theory that NP accelerates the passage of food from the stomach down into the gut, thereby preventing and eliminating the reflux of the Gastric Juice up the Esophagus through a leaking Lower Esophagal Valve. This highly corrosive acid is the cause of that acute burning sensation that has often landed patients in the ER and this could easily have been prevented if the patient used NP instead of the PPI drugs which are always prescribed by MD's.

I was very concerned and indeed annoyed when you stated:
'Vomiting of blood is a keynote symptom for Arnica. There is a strong possibility you are currently suffering side effects of the remedy. It is extremely important that you stop the Arnica straight away to avoid the problem becoming more serious. '
'Generally side-effects (also called proving symptoms)occur because the remedy has been taken too frequently, or the size of the dose is too large. It may also happen because the remedy itself is not a perfect fit for the patient.

Remedies which are only 'partial similars' may still improve a patient, but will at the same time produce new symptoms. Using partial similars is tricky, and requires a fair amount of management.'

It is this form of interference that I resent as although I can understand your thinking which I felt was purely theoretical, the patient can easily be mislead to believe that she was being poisoned by my therapy which as she informed you was NOT the case:

'To brisbanehomoeptah,

I had observed it 2 other times also. Once when I was pregnant and had severe nausea and secondly few months back during hyperacidity and nausea. As written above, I am not noticing it from last 2 days.'

Later:
'THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT I FEELING BETTER WITH YOUR THERAPY. At least my food is getting digested and am feeling better throughout the day and night. I am NOT noticing blood from last 2 days now. Also, the blood was not much, just little tied up in acid.
Also, I would like to stop this throwing up acid in morning because of stress or whatsoever.'

In her post of yesterday she gave the reason for the return of her GERD:
'It was my mistake that I started eating heavy food as I was perfectly alright for a week without any gas or acidity. But now I think it gets triggered off with heavy food and during my monthly cycle.
Should I take Nat Mur??'

You must understand that treating a patient on the web is extremely difficult and I try to help them to best of my ability by using the resources in remedies that the patient can purchase in her own country. The prescriber can only suggest the remedy to the patient but it is impossible to control the food habits of the patient especially in overeating which in this case has backfired on her immediately after she indulged.

According to you, I should only prescribe the remedy that will CURE her. Quite frankly I do not think that any such remedy exists. It is therefore incumbent on me to prescribe a remedy or remedies that I have prescribed previously to hundreds of patients who presented GERD which has invariably helped the patient to overcome it. My own experience is that within about 10 minutes of taking NP, the feeling of fullness is always relieved by the passage of flatus and by belching. This is due to the food being squeezed out of the stomach through the Pyloric valve into the Duodenum, thereby preventing the reflux into the Esophagus.

I believe that this is where my own understanding of Homeopathy or more precisely the therapy I have evolved through the years now known as Joepathy, outweighs your own understanding and practice of Classical Homeopathy which you stated only yesterday that you will from now on, prescribe to your patients.

It is my hope that you will keep to your promise and put your money where you mouth is and do so, instead of criticizing my Joepathy ad nauseam, which as you have seen in almost every case that I have treated on the ABC has helped the patient, presumably to your great surprise. I may not have succeeded in curing Shahuja, but considering that she is much improved, I am confident that this improvement will continue into the future and that hopefully she will conform to your own standards and be CURED.

I would like to ask you in conclusion, what therapy would you prescribe as a professional classically trained homeopath to treat Shahuja?
Which is that elusive single remedy that you will prescribe to CURE her?

I hope that you will not take refuge behind your statement often expressed by you in many posts, of insisting that she meets you in person in Brisbane. As you will realize this dream can never materialize, and I would like to study how you will treat the hundreds of cases of GERD which affect about 50% of the population in developing countries sometimes on a daily basis, thereby providing an unending source of revenue to both Medical and Homeopathic physicians.

I hope that you will continue to monitor this thread and observe how my Joepathy can help Shahuja in the future.

Joe De Livera
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Still you insist on twisting the results around to suit your point.

She is NOT better. She is NOT much improved. She may very well be worse off.

I think it is very convenient, that when your allopathic approach fails to cure a patient then the patient is pronounced incurable. How many times have I seen you tell patients they cannot be cured just because you cannot cure them? What gives you the right to tell patients this - to snatch hope away from them?


I see that you are not bothering to refute the points I have brought up around these two patients. You appear to be ignoring the statments I quoted from the patient herself.


Of course all of these problems occur when you are not curing the disease. Why on earth you choose an apporoach that cannot cure people I will never understand. Apart from the suffering that is extended for the people themselves, how unsatisfying it must be to rarely, if ever, cure a single patient. I have often wondered if orthodox medical doctors don't feel the same way.

From the Organon of Medicine:

Aphorism 1 : 'The physician's highest and ONLY calling is to make the sick healthy, to cure, as it is called.'

Aphorism 2 : 'The highest ideal of cure is the rapid, gentle, and PERMANENT (my emphasis) restoration of health: that is, the lifting and annihilation of the disease IN ITS ENTIRE EXTENT (my emphasis) in the shortest, most reliable and least disadvantageous way, according to clearly realizable principles.'

I think that many people come from orthodox medicine with very low expectations. They do not realize that full cure is possible for many of them with homoeopathy. Because they have already come to expect the disjointed, illogical and very haphazard methods and results of orthodox medicine, it may not occur to them to that hope exists.

I also notice that some people come with impossibly high expectations as well, as if homoeopathy is faith healing or magic. I only ever see that on forums never in clinic.

Considering how much time and effort you spend with people here, I would be glad to see your cases cured. But with an honest appraisal of the results, without the constant boasting and self-agrandizment, without lowering the bar so low that you are happy to leave people 90% uncured.

Why don't you try aiming for the same level of cure homoeopaths do. Then you might have something to boast about.
 
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
Dear Dr Joe,
You must be wondering that I get up after every few days and write you.
Firstly, I tried taking non fat milk but there has been constant pain in stomach and urge to go to motion again and again. this is the same feeling I have had during IBS some 4 yrs back. I feel my stomach has become too sensitive. I am on very light diet but in spite of that at times I have gas in my stomach.
As I told you my Iron, Calcium and Potassium are also running low, I wanted to take those food and milk which helps but seems cannot take. I am having pain in my knee and legs and I strongly believe its because of low levels of calcium and iron. Would I ever get rid of GERD and low levels? Also, can I plan for another kid, if this is going to be my situation, I cannot think of going ahead.

Also, I have had corn in my feet. earlier it was small, now it is expanding and little painful, Can you suggest something?

Thank you for your patience!
 
shahuja last decade
To Shahuja


I find that I have been treating you since last August but that you have not been cured. Please let me know precisely what remedies you are taking today with dosage and frequency and what your response has been. I note that you have reported that you felt better but this improvement did not seem to continue towards a cure.

I prescribed Robina P 3c for your GERD in view of the Hyperacidity which you reported and would like to know if you used it.

'Also, can I plan for another kid, if this is going to be my situation, I cannot think of going ahead.'

Since you have asked me a direct question, I would like to advice you to wait till you get over the GERD that you suffer from before you start on another baby.

'Also, I have had corn in my feet. earlier it was small, now it is expanding and little painful, Can you suggest something? ?

Corns are very difficult to be treated with Homeopathic remedies. The standard remedy is Antim Crud 6c but I have not found it to work to stop the formation of Corns. It is best to have them scraped with a special scraper that Dr Scholl markets which incorporates a special razor blade which scrapes away the dead tissue. You will first have to soak your feet in some special skin softening solution available in pedicure shops and it is best to entrust this exercise to them instead of experimenting yourself.

Please ignore the rantings of the brisbanehomeopath who is only intent on preaching the homeopathic gospel according to David Kempson and NOT in prescribing a remedy to a patient to help cure the ailment.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Dr Joe,
As prescribed, I am taking -Arnica 30c. I have put 6 pellets in spring water bottle and taking twice a day.
- Natrum Phos twice a day 3 tabs and if I am really bad then increase the night dose to 5-6.

I could not find Robina P 3c here, so have ordered from India through a friend.

I'll wait for Corn to get rid of.

Though I truly appreciate the efforts of brisbanehomeopath on this site, but in my case no concrete prescription or advice has come for my reported problem which was initially in the open forum. For the person who is suffering even little relief is good to start with.

Thank you so much!
 
shahuja last decade
Please follow this link to learn more about how homoeopathy is practiced.

http://www.simillimum.com/education/homoeo-faq/general-quest....

You will see that I do not preach my own 'gospel' but simply repeat the teachings and opinions of trained homoeopaths all around the world.

Seeking relief is understandable. I would just urge you to seek cure as your ultimate goal.
 
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
Dear Brisbanehomoeopath,

I am in complete agreement with Shahuja as she feels that no concrete advice has come for her issues on this forum. I would like to say sorry to her as we are human beings like her. But, there is room for improvement!

We claim we are professionals, but, we completely fail in professional attitude, service and respect.

Respectable Joe D. Livera, serving the patients in pain and sufferings for over 25 years without any financial rewards and with the best of his abilities at the age of 82 and still going with full speed must be appreciated, fully respected and must not be unprofessionally criticied.

As I strongly believe, this will not serve any purpose of helping others on this forum. This will only confuse our patients and all viewers of the posts that we the consultants are fighting with each other all the time. We must respect this forum, we must respect all patients and we must respect each other.

Difference of opinion is good and contructive criticism is healthy, but, this must be approached with professionalism.

We must at all times extend a helping hand to the patient, the person who is currently treating the patient and to the resources of ABC forum with the best of our knowledge and professional approach.

The patient already in pain due to sickness needs our help and timely attention only. The patient is not interested in the learning of homoeopathy as it might be difficult for him/her to digest the terminology and for sure the patient might not have time or strength or matching education to read a lot of material or to answer a lot of Q's. The patient is already in bad shape and his/her background might not permit the understanding of homoeopathic principles, working of the remedies and various approaches of case taking. These all must be transparent to our patients.

With due respect to all, please help the patient with a correct remedy if your knowledge, skill and experience points a better choice, then please respectfully and professionally extend your help?

It really hurts me when a patient in pain does not get timely help. He/she gets more confused, probably more sick and runs away from us. We just can not teach homoeopathy to all of our patients.

Lastly, please help shahuja, in her sickess of gerd/acid reflux and corn, if you have a better treatment? You are kindly requested to show respect to others for their valuable time they spend on each case. Please remember, they might not have the teaching and clinical experience like you, but, they are loyal, devoted, honorable, skilled, experienced and beautiful human beings. You can not handle all cases alone. You will have to live with slow people like me.

We greatly appreciate your lectures, knowledge of homoeopathy and contribution to this forum, but, treat us fairly as we all have feelings, honor and dignity.

I hope any pray for a professional response to our patient Shahuja for her complete cure and to all of us who respect you.

Regards
Nawaz
 
nawazkhan last decade
To Nawaz

Thank you for your unexpected response to David Kempson aka brisbanehomeopath where you have reiterated my own responses to him over the past few months, ever since he decided to desecrate the ABC forum with his own supercilious knowledge of classical homeopathy which for some abstruse reason only known to him, he prefers to inflict on us, more in the nature of a lecture to the patient I am treating, whilst belittling my own efforts to help him. It is remarkable that in some instances he jumps into the thread, not with any intention of treating their ailment, but to warn the patient on the danger of following my Joepathy when to our surprise (his and mine), the patient confirms that s/he had followed my therapy and was already cured ! And yet he persists in continuing with his lecture.

He has stated somewhere that he is a teacher of this Science and I believe that he is so engrossed with his own sense of importance in promoting the classical attitude towards cure by Homeopathy which he was brainwashed into believing and which he propagates today, that he often cannot see the 'wood for the trees' in doing so to his pupils. It seems very strange that even after the patient has confirmed that s/he was cured, he still continues to berate me for my Joepathy which according to him can only lead to the patient's damnation. This is the reason why I have persisted in responding to his snide taunts even though it is so very wasteful of my time which I can spend more fruitfully on helping another patient on the ABC or attending to my own work in office which I have often been compelled to sacrifice, purely to enforce my viewpoint and show him up for the fake that he really is.

His attitude is indeed pitiable and is only to be expected from his own distorted mind as the dogma he preaches of prescribing 'a Single Remedy for the Symptoms that the patient presents' invariably never works and as expected, compels the long suffering patient to return to the classical homeopath on a weekly basis, all of which results in guaranteeing the flow of revenue, which in the fees charged by his type do not come cheap.

It seems obvious to me that he does not qualify to be a physician, classical or otherwise as the practice of Homeopathy is to CURE the patient's ailment and not to berate both the patient and the prescriber for whatever reason he has in his own convoluted mind. It seems such a shame that persons of his nature are even awarded a pass from their colleges as in doing so these colleges promote the distorted view that their alumni propagate in later life to their patients. He lacks the love and understanding which is essential in a physician and I can just picture him berating a patient for some minor discrepancy in his therapy.

You very rightly stated:
'The patient already in pain due to sickness needs our help and timely attention only. The patient is not interested in the learning of homoeopathy as it might be difficult for him/her to digest the terminology and for sure the patient might not have time or strength or matching education to read a lot of material or to answer a lot of Q's. The patient is already in bad shape and his/her background might not permit the understanding of homoeopathic principles, working of the remedies and various approaches of case taking. These all must be transparent to our patients. '

I have often invited David to prescribe what he feels is the remedy of choice in place of the remedy that I had prescribed which he had faulted but he never has responded with that elusive 'single remedy' which he is convinced in his classically (mis)trained mind must cure the patient. When cornered, he resorts to ordering the patient to visit him in his clinic in Brisbane to get the benefit of this 'classical' remedy. And he expects us, the long suffering consultants of the ABC to believe that his priceless classical remedy will, (must) CURE the patient ! He does not mention that they will be charged a fee for his services which both you and I and the many consultants on this Forum always offer free of chrage. In my case as you are perhaps aware, I treat only a few selected patients in Colombo and I always give them the remedy with my advice, free of charge. I have on some occasions sent the remedies to patients I have treated on this and other Forum free of charge by air, when they state that they cannot obtain the remedy in their own country. I mention this fact as it is time that David realized that the sole purpose of our presence on the ABC is not to be critical of other consultants who spend their time on it, but to do a service to suffering humanity as our only reward is the deep satisfaction that we get from helping a patient that motivates us to spend our time in doing so. This reward is even more special when the patient confirms that s/he had been suffering from the tender mercies of a classical homeopath who had been milking the patient for months, sometimes for years, and the patient discovers that in a few days, that s/he was CURED by me with my Joepathy!

To David, it is the vicarious satisfaction that he derives from displaying his 'superior' knowledge of this science that is relevant. If you read the many posts that I have wasted my time on in responding to him, I have prescribed Lycopodium 6c to him in a few when I was beside myself in frustration and I added my reason for doing so by quoting Boericke which dealt with precisely his form of hallucination by stating in his notes on the Mind:
'Cannot bear to see anything new. Cannot read what he writes.' No statement could have been more prophetic !

David has recently been quoting from Luc de Schepper with whom I was associated for a few weeks in 2005 when he visited Sri Lanka to treat the survivors of our Tsunami. As you perhaps are aware, it was Luc that converted me to using the Wet dose which I use exclusively today after I discovered that patients responded better to the Wet dose in comparison to the Dry pellets which I used earlier in common with the majority of homeopaths and which in any case cannot be taken on a daily basis in the manner that I have used Arnica since 1996 nightly with the results that I have quoted from my own experience in the hope that others will follow my lead and live more healthy lives.

The ABC was a haven of peace and contentment after I had succeeded in changing the attitude of another classically trained homeopath who was even a more violent critic of my Joepathy which incidentally was a term that he had derisively coined in the hope of silencing me in 2005, but which term has now been established in the WWW as the unique therapy I prescribe, which has resulted in so many thousands of dramatic cures to seemingly hopeless cases.

It was only recently that David decided to inflict his presence on this Forum when he summarily proceeded to condemn my therapy which according to him only served to palliate the patient's ailment which would reappear in a more virulent form in the not too distant future. It is remarkable that none of his allegations and prophesies have ever been fulfilled and I shall, God willing, be there to treat any patients just in case they do fullfill David's dire prophesies.

I must admit that I cannot fathom David's rationale in inflicting his presence on the ABC as he must obviously realize that his presence here is not welcome as there is no benefit that patients can derive by reading his posts which are only calculated to insult and not to heal.

I must thank you Nawaz for taking the time to present your post here and it is my hope that David will read it carefully and also digest it as both you and I and the other consultants on the ABC have just one goal in view which is to CURE the patient with our own therapy which in my case was formulated from my own research and experience in the use of Homeopathic remedies in a manner that has in many cases, never been used before to cure ailments that are listed in the standard classical Homeopathic texts that we have all studied many years ago.

Joe De Livera
 
Joe De Livera last decade

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