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Its been a 3 weeks since I had cikinguniya fever,but the joint pains in foot ,ankles and fingers is till there.I read about Eupatorium perf 30 on internet and had started taking.its been more than a week and have not noticed any difference,the pain is so worst that i cant go out to get everyday things for home.This is badly affecting my life.I have a 5 month old baby boy.with no help.
Please prescribe me a good homeopathic medicine.
 
  simkhan06 on 2010-11-27
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
Please take four doses of Rhus Tox 200 over two days and see whether it helps. If there is no change you may take Bryonia 200 in the same way.
 
kadwa last decade
The remedy that will help you to stabilize your post CKG problems is Polyporous Pinicola 200c in the Wet dose taken twice daily.

I have used it extensively in Sri Lanka during the pandemic about 3 years ago and if you type Chikungunya into the Search box on every page you will read reports of patients who have used it.

The Wet dose of any Homeopathic remedy is made as follows:

Order the remedy in the Ethanol pack also referred to as Liquid Dilution in a bottle preferably with a dropper arrangement.
Get a 500ml bottle of Spring Water from the nearest supermarket.
Pour out about 3cm of water from the bottle to leave some airspace.
Insert 3 drops of the remedy into the bottle and shake the bottle hard before you sip a capfull of the bottle or a large teaspoonful which is the dose.
Shaking the bottle hard is homeopathic succussion and this shaking must be done at least 6 times before sipping a capful of the bottle as prescribed.

Report your progress weekly.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Thanx Kadwa and joe.

I think Eupatorium is working.I feel the pain has lessened.
Should I continue with it or should take something else.
 
simkhan06 last decade
continue with the remedy that worked. stop the remedy when there is significant improvement.
 
kadwa last decade
Dr joe
i have been taking eupatorium 30 since a month for post chikunguniya joint pains,though the joint pain have come down but it keeps coming back.Can you prescribe me a good homepathic medicine for this post chikunguniya joint pains which will toatally put me back into shape. I mean rid of the joint pains.its affectimg my daily life a lot.
I tried looking for polyprous but could not find it?
 
simkhan06 last decade
Will Bryonia 200 work for me/
 
simkhan06 last decade
What is the exact effect that the Eupatorium has had?

What has not been affected by the Eupatorium if anything?

Have you developed any new symptoms or new qualities to your old symptoms?

Is anything worse than it was?
 
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
brisbane the only effect the eupatorium 30 has shown is less subsiding of joint pains.no new symptoms have developed.I have been taking it since a month but no effect the joint pains have become a hell for me.
 
simkhan06 last decade
To Simkhan

If you live in India I do not see any reason why you cannot get Polyporus Pinicola 200. If you cannot get it in the Ethanol pack you can use the pellets for the moment.

You are only wasting your time and subjecting yourself to unnecessary pain and inconvenience by using Eupatorium P as it cannot help you.

I have treated hundreds of patients 3 years ago with PP and they all surprised themselves and me to discover that the majority of them responded overnight and some in a little longer time.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Dr joe
in india i m getting with the name polyporus cincola.should i go for it
 
simkhan06 last decade
I regret that I cannot advise you on the nomenclature of remedies used in India.

As far as I am aware, Polyporus Pinicola is always referred to by this name in Homeopathy and is listed in Boericke on:

http://homeoint.org/books/boericmm/p/polyp-p.htm

There is no alternate name for this remedy.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Dr Joe
I have found the polyporus pinicola 200c but in pills form.can you please prescribe the dosage.
thankyou
 
simkhan06 last decade
I presume that by 'Pills' you mean the small 3mm ø pellets.

You can insert 6 pellets into a 500ml bottle of water which must be chlorine free.

I shall repeat my instructions to make the wet dose and it is understood that since you do not have the Ethanol pack that you are using the pellets which I have found are not as effective as the 3 drops of the remedy in Ethanol.

The Wet dose of any Homeopathic remedy is made as follows:

Order the remedy in the Ethanol pack also referred to as Liquid Dilution in a bottle preferably with a dropper arrangement.
Get a 500ml bottle of Spring Water from the nearest supermarket.
Pour out about 3cm of water from the bottle to leave some airspace.
Insert 3 drops of the remedy into the bottle and shake the bottle hard before you sip a capfull of the bottle or a large teaspoonful which is the dose.
Shaking the bottle hard is homeopathic succussion and this shaking must be done at least 6 times before sipping a capful of the bottle as prescribed.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Dr Joe

I am already taking sepia 200c.Can i start with polyporus also.I mean can i take both the remedy.Or I have to stop sepia till my joint pain is recovered.
 
simkhan06 last decade
As far as I am aware, Sepia in any potency is just a waste of time to treat CKG. If you wish to use Poly P you must stop the Sepia.

I have literally given over 100 bottles of Poly P in the Wet dose free of all cost to my patients when we were having a pandemic of CKG here in Sri Lanka in 2007 and they all responded without any fatalities at all. As far as I remember the number of patients who lost their lives was over 75 in government hospitals and all patients really suffered agony with this dreaded disease which was cured by Poly P in just 3 days.

The government refused to use my Poly P which I offered to supply free of charge if they supplied me with the bottles of spring water.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
thanx
I am not taking sepia for CKG.
I was taking it for some women prob.but i will stop till i am done poly p.
thanx
 
simkhan06 last decade
Dr Joe
Its been a week since I am taking poly p 200c wet dose,but i dont see any difference.My joint pain has become wore.

Please adv asap.
 
simkhan06 last decade
I am copying my post of December 18:

I shall repeat my instructions to make the wet dose and it is understood that since you do not have the Ethanol pack that you are using the pellets which I have found are not as effective as the 3 drops of the remedy in Ethanol.

It is very likely that the remedy that you got is not Polyporus Pinicola judging by the alternative description that you gave me at first.

All I can do is to prescribe the remedy that has cured hundreds of patient and it is in your hands to follow my therapy precisely as prescribed.

Suggest you get your remedy from:

CHENNAI
The Homeopathic Center
100 First Floor
Dr Muthulakshmi Salai
Opp Nerct Electronics
Adyar
Chennai 20

009144 24404393
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Hi Joe

I guess when you are mentioning the remedy, you should also mention the source of this information.

Also, while the same source talks about Polyporus for Chickengunia, he talks about LKali mur 10000x for the after-pains.

Regards,
Niel
 
Niel Madhavan last decade
Hi All

Polyporus was first suggested by Dr. V Krishnamurthy from Chennai, noted Homeopath and Professor Of Homeopathy in 2006.

Following is the extract from his article:

During the years 2006-2008, almost all homoeopathic practitioners had been giving different
remedies for chikungunya disease (mainly Rhus-tox and Eup-perf.) to be taken for days and
weeks with little relief. The undersigned was the first to declare that the homoeopathic remedy
Polyporus Pinicola-10,000x is almost a specific for chikungunya and with this remedy GIVEN IN
ONE SINGLE DOSE, my students had cured lakhs and lakhs of chikungunya victims during the
years 2006 to 2008. (Rate of success: more than 97%).
I am not proud of the above, because it is my duty, as Professor of homoeopathy, to find out
the remedy for any epidemic. [A teacher is he who makes difficult things easy
—Ralph Waldo Emerson.] Be that as it may.
Though, all practitioners had cured several cases of chikungunya with one single dose of
Polyporus, what was disappointing is that not even a single homoeopath came forward to ask me
as to how I selected Polyporus Pinicola for chikungunya.
These homoeopaths (who had cured chikungunya with one single dose of Polyporus) are
now asking me what homoeo medicine is to be given for Swine Flu. I am not satisfied with this
query. But I would be much pleased if they had asked me how I arrived at Polyporus Pinicola for
chikungunya and further how to find out the remedy for the present pandemic Swine Flu.
I don't mind declaring the name of the correct homoeopathic remedy which would be almost
a specific for Swine Flu. Before this I would, first of all, like to teach the practitioners as to how I
found out the remedy for chikungunya. This is more important. Such a teaching alone would help
the reader to find out by himself a remedy for future epidemics.
Chikungunya disease begins with fever, shivering and joint pains. Many patients had to
crawl for going to the toilet etc. because of crippling joint pains. Their faces were “gloomy.”
(See Calvin B. Knerr’s Repertory—MIND AND DISPOSITION—Gloomy, in ague: Poly.)
(ague: malaria or another illness involving fever and shivering)

For afterpains after Polyporus, he suggests Kali mur 1000x.

My experience: I have used this medicine in many cases and have had great successes in a no of them.

However, this by NO MEANS is a PANACEA at all. I have had occassions where the cure was performed by Arnica, Agaricus, Eupatorium, Bryonia and in one case, even by Veratrum.

No one can claim originality to this suggestion but the master Homeopath! Not even Joe!

Regards,
Niel
 
Niel Madhavan last decade
To Niel

It was Rajiv who first mentioned that the Indian homeopaths were using Polyporus Pinicola to treat CKG and it was after I got my own stock from Mumbai that I was able to treat this disease with considerable success although the government hospitals recorded about 75 fatalities.

Rajiv did not make any mention of the remedy you mentioned:
'Also, while the same source talks about Polyporus for Chickengunia, he talks about LKali mur 10000x for the after-pains. '

At first I gave PP 30c to patients who presented a week after they first caught the virus but when this did not show any positive results, I then changed over to PP 200 in the Wet dose and was simply amazed at the outcome when almost all patients reported that they were cured in 48 hours when their excruciating joint pains left them within 24 hours and the fever in 48.

I would appreciate if you can shed more light on ' LKali mur 10000x for the after-pains. '

Regards
Joe
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Hi Joe

Krishnamurthy refers to using PP during the fever. It normally relieves within 24-48 hours.

Even after PP, there are times when extreme pains are mentioned in the small joints of upper and lower extremities. It is then that we are suggested to give a single dose of Kali mur 10000x.

In cases managed with allopathy, I first give wet doses of PP 1000x on alternate days. On the next day, I give Kali Mur 10000x and the results are startling. Within 4-5 days, there is no trace of anypain.

But like I mentioned, it is not a panacea. Especially for diagonal pains, ou would need Agaricus.

Regards and best wishes,
Niel
 
Niel Madhavan last decade
To Niel

I noticed that we had both posted at the same time.

Please note that I did not evey make any claim to have 'discovered' Polyporus Pinicola was effective for Chikungunya. All I stated was that I used it extensively in Colombo and also offered it to the government hospitals free of charge but there were no takers.

It is interesting to note however that a doctor to whom I had mentioned that PP was the antidote for CKG met me late one night and hand carried the remedy to his ailing mother who lived in the hills about 200km from Colombo. He announced in 48 hours that his mother was cured.

I note that it was Dr. V Krishnamurthy from Chennai who first identified PP for CKG but he refers to the 10000x potency with which I am not familiar. Do you know what the equivalent potency is in the C scale?

If and when you do get Dr K's therapy for the H1N1 Virus I would appreciate if you will please mention it as we have many patients who are daily reported to be infected by this virus.

In the alternative do you have Dr K's contact phone number or email address?

You may like to know that I have given my staff Gelsemium 30c in the Wet dose which they take twice weekly for Prophylaxis against the Swine Flu virus.

Joe
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Hi Joe

Krishnamurthy recommends Mrc sol 10000x for Swine Flu.

The complete extract from his article:

'Now, coming to the much dreaded Swine Flu.
(a) those who had died in hospitals with Swine Flu had lung failure
(b) Swine Flu starts with fever, sore throat and body pain.
Step 1: Fever with body pain, sore throat. The rubric that you must take for this in Kent's Repertory is under GENERALITIES. Inflammation, internal
Step 2: Disease of lung that speedily kills any patient; the equivalent rubric in Kent's Repertory is
Pneumonia (CHEST: Hepatization of lungs)

The remedies scoring more points (being common to the above two lists) are Cactus=4,
Iodum=5, Kalic-c=4, Kali-iod.=4, Lach=5, Lyc=4, Merc-sol=4, Nux-v=5, Phos=6, Sulph=5, Tereb=5

These remedies were studied in Samuel Lilienthal's HOMOEOPATHIC THERAPEUTICS
under the chapter PNEUMONIA; Under Merc-sol we find the following words “epidemic broncho-pneumonia”.

On the same page under the remedy Ferrum met. also, we find the words 'epidemic
pneumonia'. But we do not get this remedy in repertorisation. Patients who had come to me after being tested positive for swine flu were given the homoeo medicine MERC-SOL-10,000x (one single dose, given once, any time---no diet restrictions) and after a few days when they tested, the result was negative.

All their symptoms disappeared. (Rate of success: 97%). One single dose only and not to be repeated at all. In
my forty years of practice, in the treatment of epidemics, the results with the use of l0,000x is quite satisfactory, while the effects of other potencies such as 30, 200, 1000 or 30x, 200x, l000x
etc. are unpredictable.

Therefore, we advise our student-doctors and patients not to experiment with other potencies. In case you do not get this remedy Mercurius sol-10,000x from your local
homoeo store, you may send me money order or bank draft for Rs.150=00 (overseas: US$ or
Euro 10=00) (no online transfer etc. please) to
Dr. V. Krishnamurthy,
Raman House, Old No.21,
Kuppaiah Street,
West Mambalam,
Chennai - 600 033, India,
and we would send you 3ml pack of about 75 (seventy-five) pills. This pack of 3ml is sufficient to treat twenty-five patients.

For prevention, the same remedy Merc.sol.10,000x may be given one dose once a month for three months. This prevents Swine flu for six months from the date of taking
the first dose.

In homoeopathy, cure is easier and quicker than prevention.
—————
IMPORTANT NOTE: In Section 213 of the Organon Dr. Hahnemann tells us that without prescribing a remedy on mind symptoms a cure is not possible. Let us now see how the remedy Merc-sol satisfies this requirement.

In big organizations when a person is affected with fever, sore throat and body pain he is advised NOT TO COME TO OFFICE. In other words, the awe-stricken non-affected persons run away from the victims as if they are their enemies, for fear of contracting Swine flu.

A lady took his 5-year old son to a doctor. There a patient came to consult the doctor
because he was declared positive for Swine flu. Immediately on hearing this that lady started running away with her son lest he may be infected.

The otherwise healthy person considers the victims of Swine flu as his enemy. The victims
are asked to keep off till cured.

Under the Chapter “MELANCHOLIA” in the reference book HOMOEOPATHIC THERAPEUTICS by Dr. Samuel Lilienthal, (page no.700 under the remedy Merc-sol.) we find the
following words: anxious restlessness as if some evil impended constant
suspicion, consi-dering everybody his enemy.

The following extracts from the WILKINSONS’ MATERIA MEDICA (under the chapter ‘Mind’
in the remedy Merc-sol.) also confirms my selection of this remedy for Swine Flu.
...Desire to flee, with... anxiety and apprehension.... did not know what to do... Inexpressible pain of soul and body, anxious restlessness, as if some evil impended...
In one of the big multinational company office at Chennai about 300 persons were working in the first floor. Immediately on hearing that two of their colleagues were tested positive for
swine flu, all of them started fleeing. This attitude is found in almost all persons who are running here and there for preventive for Swine Flu. Therefore, Merc-sol is almost a specific both as a
preventive and curative.'

In case 10000x is not available, 1M is the right potency. In wet dose, should not be repeated often.

Regards,
Niel
 
Niel Madhavan last decade
In my experience, the most important drugs for the treatment of Swine Flu have been Merc sol and Pulsatilla.

Regards,
niel
 
Niel Madhavan last decade

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