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Globus Hystericus only Grief

Hello Everyone one

I have suffered extreme panic attacks, globus hystericus, swelling in the neck, tension for about 7 years.

I have had all blood tests done and they are generally normal. Which I will never understand.

I am working hard with my homeopath to try and fix my problems, but I accept after 7 years I may never recover.

We have tried many hysteria remedies and grief remedies and although they do make me cry or release emotion they never improve my condition after a few weeks it gets worse and I get more tense.

Is globus hysteria only related to grief as a blocked emotion.

My homeopath said she can see a lot of possibly suppressed anger, but I have spent hours reading anger remedies and people with suppressed anger don't have globus, only grief patients.

Nat Mur made me cry like a baby but eventually I felt like I didn't have anything left to cry about.

my head still felt like a pressure cooker waiting to explode.

Any help would be great, thanks
 
  krisuk333 on 2010-12-06
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
Krisuk,
What greif ur talking about?
Please let me know?
U Said TENSION what do u mean by that?
If you explain in detail then I can get ur remedy.
You may mail me email id you can see by clicking on my name written in green.

Regards,

Dr.Yogesh
 
yogeshrajurkar last decade
Perhaps a different approach is called for?

Has your homoeopath been looking for a causation for your symptoms, or looking only at the symptoms themselves? What kind of remedies has he or she used? Are only polycrests being used or new remedies as well? What method of case-taking has been used? Has your homoeopath attempted looking at your case from a miasmatic viewpoint?

It is possible that grief is a red herring in your case, and rather than chasing assumed causation (also called Allopathic prescribing) a clear examination of the state itself could be in order.
 
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
Hello

I hope this doesn't get too long, I really appreciate your help

I found in 2003 I was under a lot of stress because I was unwell from using gym/weight lifting supplements, one day I developed globus hystericus. It's never gone since. I remember before I got to globus I was angry, raging crying, screaming, scared, humiliated. After I got the globus I didn't cry in 6 years.

I don't understand why its there and lots of things make it worse but nothing makes it better.

I thought it was the thyroid and started natural thyroid supplements but eventually I badly aggravated the thyroid and got so much more worse.

I have been in agony for 6 years, this years been so bad I've been bed bound most the year, I don't have any friends or life anymore. I have been referred to the top Dr's in England and they can't find anything wrong at all, even Professor Bouloux, he told me people just live with it. I wish it was that easy.

They tried me on prozac but I lost libido on the 2nd dose and couldn't take the side effects. Counselling didn't help either.

Mirtazapine made me sleep 36 hoursand feel horrible.

Drugs really make things worse.

Nat mur seems to make me cry about a recent girlfriend, but that's about it really. I cried three days straight and after that no change infact I got more tense eventually, my homeopath kept me on it for 8 weeks in 200c, 12c, 1m, 10m but no change.

Ignatia, Asafoetida, agnus castus, lachesis and nat mur all seem to massively increase the globus feeling and I become hysterical, but I never calm down. They are almost a trigger.

I did get some relief with arg nit but it never quite worked. It made me relief cry not grief cry and I felt a slight release in my head.

I have tense headaches 24/7 like their is a sharp stone in the middle of my head.

I have also tried kali phos, Belladonna, Aconite Ars Alb.

last week we tried asafetida again and it was horrible, I tensed up horribly and it just would never relieve.

I wish I could get some relief, I am just trying to stay alive at the moment.

Has your homoeopath been looking for a causation for your symptoms, or looking only at the symptoms themselves?

I believe my homeopath gave me asafetida purely because of the globus hystericus, she read it in her book and said take this.

She told me she wants to mixs remedies but I said that it could be risky because I am hyper sensitive and one might work the other might make it worse, but I feel I should do what she says.

she also gave me adrenaline to see if that calms me down.

My emotions are very suppressed, stuck in my throat but I have exhausted grief remedies and they just don't get to route problem.

Is it possible that I'm one of though people that nothing will work for?

I have tried so hard to get better.

grief could be a red herring.

I have been told by many people that I can’t be helped anymore.

My Mum’s in tears most weekends because I’m suffering so bad.

I don't think I have used any new remedies.

I have used the BEST, E-lyria, Asyra, NES treatements which have not really helped.

Homeopathy is my last hope.

I hope this is not too long, as you can tell I'm pretty desperate.
 
krisuk333 last decade
What grief ur talking about?



I'm not sure I have grief about anything, the fact I have globus hysteria makes me think its grief but grief remedies don't work. I suffered some abuse at school and that made me self obsessed about my looks or maybe I was vain because after years of being down about my appearance I became happy. When I started losing hair at 19 I became stupidly obsessed and very angry and fearful that if I lost my hair I would be laughed at. I think this became a 24/7 obsession.



I believe that taking too many supplements plus my mental health caused horrible symptoms and increase my panic and I went almost mad. My hormones feel very out of balance but test after test prove to be normal, I can't understand it. How could I be in so much discomfort and nothing be wrong?



U Said TENSION what do u mean by that?



I have very tense head aches, my jaw is often tight, I feel a pain behind my eye, I am constantly hyper to the point to exhaustion and ready to explode but its suppressed, I can't cry easily, grief remedies force me to cry but its not a relief, infact they end up very badly aggravating. The globus gets worse after sex which I can't explain. I have a weight feeling in the cheat like my breasts are full of fluid.



I feel like I need to scream, roar out, loud and cry out but I’m blocked and I don’t have the energy. I can’t get angery about how I have suffered and I can’t get emotional either.



The tension in my neck gets so tight that when I get relief from a remedy such as adrenaline 30c I gag badly for 20 seconds.



I am hugely sensitive to homeopathy.



Away from homeopathy I have tried every supplement and herb under the sun they have little to no effect, I have tried possibly 500 plus different pills/supplemts/drugs/detox programs. Many Naturopaths are amazing that I never recover they can't explain it.



Deep down I feel I could easily recover but after 7 years I have lost a lot of hope. The discomfort get so extreme sometimes I feel like ending my life, its just too much, I'm amazing I have made it this far and stayed strong enough.
 
krisuk333 last decade
Krisuk.
I Need some time will soon get back to you.

Regards,
Dr. Yogesh
 
yogeshrajurkar last decade
I've had a similar problem last year, and I still kind of do, but it's much better. Check your metanephrines (adrenaline), blood and urine. Try to write down what happened to you that brought you in this state (but do that when you are nervous). Your problem might be also taking all of those supplements (you don't know what they are doing to you). You expect them to help but it's possible that they are doing more damage (your adrenal glands might be exausted also).
 
boroje last decade
I would want some additional info on this case.

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Homeopathy International 1 last decade
Do you have problems talking (when you are trying to talk, you feel as though you will cry and you are having troubles to keep composure, especially when there is a sad topic)(or did you have it before)? Do you feel sensations throughout the body (sometimes too good, sometimes too bad, somtimes cold or hot)? I don't want to ask about the sleeping since I guess, you can't sleep normally.
 
boroje last decade
boroie i have had so so many tests done its unbelieveable.

do you feel like the globus revents you from releasing emotion, its my biggest problem.

i so sometimes have slightly high noradrenaline, but i am in horrible discomfort results don't reflect this:

blood

testosterone 1107 (400-1200)
estradiol 0.3 (0.5 to1.5)
cortisol morning 5.7 (3-8)

cortisol afternoon 2.2 (2 to 4)
cortisol night 0.1, 0.3 (0.5-1.5)
progesterone 10 (25-100)
dhea 3.5 range (3-10)
adrenalin 35 and 59, 66 range (35-165)
nor-adrenaline 401 and 469, 501 range (165-469)

dopamine 1800, 2200 (1200-3000)
tsh 1.7. 1.1, 2.2 range (0.4- 4.0)
prolactin 250, 220 range (53-360)



urine

epinephrine 3.5, 6.5, 8.9 (12:50 pm) range 8-12
norepinephrine 21, 38, 65 range (30-55)
dopamine 49, 63, 126 (125-175)
serotonin 55.7, 66, 63.2 (175-225)

gaba 3.7, 6.2 (1.5 – 4.0)
glycine 863, 801 (200-400)
taurine 120.8, 103 (150-300)

glutamate 46 (10-25)
glutamine 2003, 2024,2075 (150-400)
melatonin 15 range 25-100 (11.50pm)
 
krisuk333 last decade
Gender: M
Age: 28
Body Type: average
Height: 6.1
Weight: 85 kg
General appearance: exhausted
Have you used homeopathic medicines before?

Nat Mur 6c, 200c, 1m, 10 m (made me cry at first but no globus relief aggravated eventually) 4 weeks
Ingatia 6c, 200c, 1m (slight cry but aggravated eventually) 3 weeks
Canni I 200 (made me gag slight globus relief but triggers panic attacks) 2 weeks
arg nit 30c, 200c (slight relief in tension, little to effect on globus) 2 months
Merc 30c (made symptoms get worse difficult to stay on remedy) 1 week
Asafoetida 200c (made lump in throat very bad, all symptoms got much worse particularly mania) only days
Dys Co 200c (little to no reaction) 3 weeks
Ars Alb 200c (didn't notice anything) 7 days

Multiple remedies:

Best machine remedies (very powerful but can’t release lump in throat so I go back to discomfort, seems to try and fix physical problems with getting to the core)
Fear remedy: Mixes arg nit with other remedies (very little improvement)

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Please answer the following questions in a descriptive manner after careful analysis and recollection of previous experiences and happenings.

1. Describe your main suffering?

Very powerful globus hystericus (lump in throat), choking, hard to swallow and many horrible symptoms for 7 years including trembling, swollen neck glands, tingling hands and feet, extreme exhaustion, horrible tension, in a horrible state of panic/adrenal surges, desperate need to release tension/frustrated but its impossible, extremely jumpy. My mind races away, like I have totally lost any brakes.

Since I have had the globus hystericus my body feels blocked, suppressed, emotionally suppressed because I am too tense and can’t recover. Sometimes my symptoms try to recover but the globus (lump is throat) blocks my recovery. I can’t feel the tension in my skull too, it’s like a rock.

I don’t know if this is emotional, neurological.

95% of health checks show my adrenals to be very good, my thyroid is good.

Even tests where a problem has rarely shown up, I have been retested and I am 100% healthy.

A Vega machine lady keeps detecting emotional unbalances and nothing else wrong, but sometimes these machines recommend supplements make me feel terrible.

One lady put me on a £600 ($800) detox and I can’t say it did very much. It included, b-complex, Vit C, melatonin, magnesium, iodine, milk thistle, vit E, oils and many more.

She had 100% success rate until I came a lot.

2. What other physical sufferings do you have in your body?

Other then swollen neck glands Dr’s can’t find anything wrong, I am so exhausted my eyes get heavy and red


3. What mental sufferings / feelings do you have associated with your physical sufferings?

I can’t get angry, yesterday I wished I could scream but I could it just stays built up. If I do get any relief I try and cry just to relieve the tension but I don’t get far. The tightness and tension get worse after sex as embarrassing as that is to admit.

I use to get very impatient and jealous a lot and a total perfectionist, I sure there is build up grief and anger in my head.

I don’t look perfect anymore I look a mess and have been very insecure over my appearance, now I barely can’t because I’m in too much discomfort.

4. What exactly do you feel when you are at your worst? Describe the sensation in your own words.

At my worst I feel full of nervous adrenal like I have just run for 7 days straight, but I can’t relax, I have no resources to calm down, I build up tension, my throats goes extremely tight to the point I can’t swallow, my hands and feet feel like they have a surge of nervous energy running through them and tingling and tremble horribly. I feel emotionally totally numb, I can’t cry or feel sorry for myself there is too much tension. My neck swells up (but many Dr’s have said this is not my thyroid) some Dr’s have claims I make the swelling up because it doesn’t make sense, some admit there is swelling but its not related to my symptoms.

When my tension is extremely bad, relief (whether homeopathy or a supplement) will make me gag badly because there is such a release in tension, but the tension will quickly come back.

I can’t seem to simply calm down ever, it’s a constant rush.


5. When did it all start? Can you connect it to any past event or disease?

It all happen when I was going to the gym a lot and taking too many hormone altering supplements, I believe I had an extreme adrenal crash and my body went completely crazy, a feeling so extreme I can barely put it into words other then to said it’s didn’t feel human, I am amazing I didn’t die it destroyed me mentally and physically.

It looks like my body recovered physically but something went horribly out of balance, and I don’t know what, I only know when and where and it was real.


6. Which time of the day you are worst?

Early mornings and 3 to 5, but I am constantly in a lot of discomfort, the discomfort is so extreme that although I don’t feel depressed I would be happy to die just to not suffer anymore and I consider myself a very tough guy, that’s how bad it is.


7. What are the things which aggravate your suffering and which are those which ameliorate the same? Example- time, temperature, pressure, rubbing, washing, eating, tight clothing etc.

Temperature if its hot, but mainly pills or even the wrong homeopathy remedy, my symptoms are so powerful that even homeopathy can make me much worse.

I react very powerful to homeopathy, I believe in it, even though I get a lot of pressure to give it up because it’s not worked, I still think its my only hope.

Anything that affects my thyroid or adrenals will very likely make me horribly worse, to the point where I think I will die.

I should note that my cortisol and thyroid as very very good in tests. Products that should help my adrenals, I can’t tolerate. Very mysterious.

I have never really found that a change in emotion has made me worse. Maybe frustration and anger can add to it though.



8. Do your think your sufferings have relation to any external stimuli (like, change of place) or any internal biological changes in the body, like, menses (in females)?

I am extremely sensitive to hormone altering chemicals e.g. I can’t use nizoral shampoo anymore because it alters testosterone, I can even use lemon balm, it appears to make my adrenals crash or puts me into a panic attack.

To a Dr this is not believable but for me its reality.


9. When do you feel better, during hot weather or cold weather, humid or dry weather?

Progesterone cream helps a little bit, a naturopath recommended it. When I first got the symptoms green tea helps, but things have gotten a lot worse and I don’t find it affective now. Progesterone after a while I get night wears and wake up early so I am a little scared of it.

I used a cortisol blocker which really helped back in 2008, but it was never going to last, my body gets use to drugs or supplements very quickly.

Some homeopathic remedies sometimes help a little but not much.

Something that will haunt me forever is in 2004 I bought 4c testosterone and it was so so powerful and made me so so so much more worse. It’s called test-rx, it’s probably a great product if you’re not a weird case like me.

How and why it made me suffer so much, again I will never know. If I told a Dr this he would think I’m nuts.

Many times products only have to touch my tongue for me to improve or get much worse.


10. Describe your general mental set up? Are you Moody, Arrogant, Mild, Agreeable Changeable, Nervous, Suspicious, Easily offended, Quiet, Arguing, Irritating, Lazy etc.

I have been mentally very very numb because the tension has been so horrible for years and years, since using homeopathy it has release some emotions and now I can connect with how horrible my life is and the symptoms are, not only that I can’t recover and nobody even great people can help me.

I am not lazy, moody, nervous, but people at work still really like me as a person because my emotions are still very much suppressed in public.


- How do you feel before or during a thunderstorm?

I like them



- Do you like being consoled during your tough times?

No, I have tried very hard to battle this alone. I must have spent over $20,000 on blood tests, Asyra machines, best machines, Dr’s, brain scans, and drugs.

Drugs really have only made me worse overall. I do truly believe that drugs caused all this, I am not so innocent in my mental contribution, but it’s was mainly drugs. Just before I got these symptoms mentally I felt pretty happy and looking forward to life.

- Are you sensitive to external stimuli like smell, noise, light etc?

I like the dark, I don’t like light much, although I look better from the sun, but I am bad with heat.


- Do you have any typical habit or gesture like nail biting, causeless
Weeping, talking to one self etc?

No really, I chew pens

- How do you feel about your friends, family, your children and especially your husband / wife?

I have lost connection with nearly everyone I care about now, it’s been a slow process. My best friends are practitioners, but eventually they can’t help me and feel sorry for me.


11. What are your fears and do you dream of any situation repeatedly?

Normally I get over confident and feel I will recover and then I don’t. I just wanted to be successful in life, I still do. I fear I will suffer all my life now it’s very likely and never get the girl of dreams, I only see a few girls now and again but I can’t have a relationship, I can barely work.


12. What do you crave for in food items and what are your aversions?

Carbohydrates in general

13. How is your thirst: Less, Normal or Excessive?

less

14. How is your hunger: Less, Normal or Excessive?

Excessive I think

15. Is there any kind of food which your body can’t stand?

no

16. Is your sweat normal or less or more? Where does it sweat more: Head, Trunk or Limbs?

Normal at the moment was horrible in the summer.

17. How is your bowel movement and stool type?

I think normal

18. How well do you sleep? Do you have a particular posture of sleeping?

I sleep ok but it’s uncomfortable because I am in a lot of distress.

19. Do you think you are able to satisfy your sexual desires in general?

Not really, I should be getting married at my age. It all adds to a big frustration.


20. Do you have any strange, peculiar or unusual symptom or feelings? How are you different from others?

Globus hystericus lump in the throat and its extreme, unexplained aching in the breasts, unexplained swelling in the neck.

21. What medications have been taken earlier by you to treat the diseases and do you have any particular symptom surfacing after the medication?

All thyroid supplements make me much much worse.

Most adrenal supplements make me worse or have little impact. A couple have helped.

Few products have any positive affects.

Many many products make things worse.

Bad reaction to supplements will most likely cause the globus to get very very bad and I will go into a a major state of nervous adrenaline.



22. What major diseases are running in your family?

None

23. Describe, how do you look like? Describe your overall appearance.

I look quite normal, if a little exhausted, of course I feel much worse.




25. What major diseases have you had in your life and when. Please write them in a chronological manner

Other then this, I have been perfectly healthy up to age 22.
 
krisuk333 last decade
Krisuk,
Raphanus sat 30C single dose.
SINGLE DOSE: 4-5 drops of Raphanus sat 30C dilution in 15 -20 ml of water to be taken on empty stomach in the morning.
came to this remedy after great study & thought.
Mind you only a single dose is needed
DONT REPEAT!
Report in 3-5 days
Regards,
Dr. Yogesh
 
yogeshrajurkar last decade
thank you I have just ordered it.
 
krisuk333 last decade
Well, I can give you my opinion. You said that you spent 20000$ and tried 500 different supplements. Obviously, that is obsession. You are probably thinking about it all the time and then when you try new supplement and it doesn't work, it makes you even more depressed. So, try to stop everything (supplements, medications, teas etc.) for some time (after 7 years of trying everything under the sky and nothing had worked, you need to change the direction). Right now your life is your percieved disease. So, you are hurting yourself by wanting to get better soooo much. Then, you are a perfectionist which means you are prone to depression and anxiety. Then you say that you must get married. Why? It just adds a lot more pressure, and really all you need is to get better mentally. The only way to get better mentally is to stop reading these posts on internet (let me guess, in you Internet Explorer or Firefox, you have over 500 links related to homeopathy, meditation, hormones, labs etc.). Here is the problem. Period of 7 years of having constant anxiety and depression, is way too long. It means that so many bad things happened, and it got totally engraved in your memory which you will have a lot of problems with in the future, because if you are put in certain tough situations, you will constalnty ask yourself, well, is it really gone, or is my anxiety going to come back at this very moment, and then it will, because it's so prevalent in your memory and so hard to erase it. So, you need to put any plans off for the future until you are able to calm down. The only way to calm down is to STOP BEING PERFECTIONS AND STOP HAVING ABSOLUTE GOALS. No pills will help you (after all you mention that pills got you into this mental state). Focus on something else. Learn to play a piano (well maybe something else if piano is a bit depressing). Now, be careful about the realease of the anger. After 7 years of constant blockage somewhere (well, I think that the solution is in the stomach, near liver area, or solar plexus if you wish), explosive release of emotions and anger might be a bit too much for a body to handle. That's why keep your physical health in good shape (don't overdo vitamins and other supplements). I had a sudden release of emotions 2 years ago and it was amazing. I also had constant tension, and I couldn't speak at all. And I felt that there is something in my throat (I guess globus). I started writting on my computer what happened to me at work (I was kind of harrased and for months I didn't have a guts to respond, but was keeping everything inside) after I quit (maybe one month after). And suddenly something started from my head, like massive release of neurotransmiters. It started filling up my body and I was feeling like on drugs times 10 (I never tried drugs though). It was great. And when that feeling or sensation came to my feet it kind of bounced back and started moving back to head, but it finished up in my stomach area, and I had a feeling that it filled up something in my liver area (not actualy liver, because liver don't have connection with nerves, but something in that area). That lasted for 5 seconds. After 5 seconds, I was totally cured. I could speak without the effort, my globus was gone, my sinuses opended up, my stomach could support my speaking, buzzing in ear stopped, and I felt relaxed and never better. Unfortunatelly, that experience was so profound that my blood pressure shot up to 230 by 160 and I went to emergency. Luckily it laster only for few hours (which is still long), and following day it kind came into some kind of balance. But that lasted only 2 days (of feeling great). On the third day, I jumped out of the bad and I couldn't breathe. It was the worst panic attack ever, and after that things started going downhill. Well it's a long story, so I'll stop now.
 
boroje last decade
Thank for the post, I have tried taking nothing and it didn’t help, in fact I thought taking nothing would allow my body to recover my itself but it didn’t, its gone to far I expect.

One this globus came and since then my body has been blocked.

Also I always thought I would have recovered, I thought nat mur would have been perfect, but it didn’t feel right in the end, even though it released emotion, I’m not sure if it was the right emotion or what, I can’t explain it.

The last two years I have not really been buying supplements, the last 9 months I pretty much have only been on homeopathy, sticking to homeopathy and balancing machines like asyra and the best machine. I thought they would have worked.

I am a pianist, but I have slowly given up as I’m too tense too unwell to play.

When I read your case I thought of plum pit qi (liver qi stagnation). Have you ever researched that?

I know homeopathy works I’m concerned I’ve done too much damage in trying to recover.

My only goal now is to recover, I can’t do anything else I’m that bad.
 
krisuk333 last decade
Ok. Let's try this. Go to nature, and scream as much as you can (or you can do it in a car also). Then, find funny clips on the web, and laugh as much as you can (you need to force yourself and do it every day). I still think that your obsession with your disease is not helping, because it's coupled with the perfection personality of yours (which is bad combination). For us perfectionsts, there always must be a solution in our minds, and if we can't find a solution, we go into despair state. And human body is a bit more complex thing for us to figure out (especially emotions). Not sure why is your testosteron so high. Mine is around 300. Obviously your serotonin is low, but as you know, test for serotonin doesn't mean much (is not accurate). Try doing metanephrines (it's metabolite of adrenaline and more accurate test since testing only adrenaline in blood doesn't mean much). Do urine and fractional blood test for metanephrines. After 7 years of all the troubles that you had and since you are very obssesed about it, maybe you should try to write a book (it may sound funny, but I'm not kidding). I'm sure you have enough material for 3 books, correct.
 
boroje last decade
Panic attacks can be helped with amino acids - GABA can cause a relaxation in the system with very little side effects. The only one I know is temporary muscle weakening. Medications for fear such as Lorazepam work to increase the GABA in your system.

I have tried homepathy for this with little success.

You might also consider seeing if you have food allergies which can aggravate this condition.
Take your pulse in the morning, then eat one item. After 20 mins take your pulse again. If its up by 7 points or more, you have a food sensitivity. Try to avoid this food.

Also you might trying toning - especially since globus hystericus affects the throat, setting up a vibration in your throat that is healing may help. sing the scale a number of times, and breathe deeply. Hold one nostril closed while breathing in, alternate to holding the other nostril while you breathing out. Pray for guidance.
 
roygbiv last decade

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