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back and shoulder pain
This post is for Dr DavidHi David I am suffering from back pain, left shoulder, but only one point, some heaviness in armpit, and tenderness in breast, shoulder pain is like pinching pain.some time pain in upper breast portion next to sternum.
Another problem is esophagus inflammation with dairy products. breast pain gets worse with milk consumption and dairy products, same for back pain.
Please do help me to solve this condition, its making me really nervous.
pinkyM on 2011-03-28
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Ok Pinky, would you mind filling in my intake form.
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1. What exactly happens?
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3. What causes the problem to get worse after it has started occurring?
4. What creates some relief for the problem?
5. What triggers the problem into occuring?
6. What time of the day or night does the problem occur?
7. When did the problem start? What was happening in your life at that time? Did some specific event or treatment take place just before the problem started?
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1. The specific foods that you crave (not just like) or hate
2. The specific drinks that you crave or hate
3. What your sleep is like
4. How the weather and the temperature affects you
5. What kinds of things in the environment you are particularly sensitive to
6. What your general level of energy is like
7. What your level of sexual energy or desire is like
GUIDELINES FOR GIVING HOMOEOPATHIC CASE INFORMATION
It is important to describe all your problems in as much detail as you are able. One word answers and short sentences are not particularly helpful. Discuss each problem one at a time, providing (as a minimum level of detail) the following information.
1. What exactly happens?
2. Describe all sensations and pains. Each pain or sensation should be described in such a way that allows us to imagine having the same pain.
3. What causes the problem to get worse after it has started occurring?
4. What creates some relief for the problem?
5. What triggers the problem into occuring?
6. What time of the day or night does the problem occur?
7. When did the problem start? What was happening in your life at that time? Did some specific event or treatment take place just before the problem started?
Move from one problem to the next, doing the same thing. IT IS VITAL THAT YOU GIVE A COMPLETE PICTURE OF YOUR HEALTH BY PROVIDING ALL PROBLEMS YOU HAVE, EVEN IF NOT CONNECTED TO THE MAIN ONE, AND EVEN IF YOU CONSIDER IT OF LESS IMPORTANCE. You should address each problem separately using the above 7 questions as a guide.
As well as this, please describe any traumatic incidents that have taken place in your life. Discuss anything that has had a lasting impact on you mentally, emotionally or physically.
Discuss the way that you manage or deal with your problems, or any problems that occur in your life.
Discuss any patterns you have noticed in your behavior especially concerning your disease.
Discuss any part of your life where you feel stuck or unable to change and grow, especially where this occurred around the beginning of your disease, or as the disease evolved.
Describe your childhood and the kind of environment you grew up in, with reference to your relationships with your family, your school experiences, and any serious childhood diseases.
If your earlier discussions have not mentioned these already, please describe:
1. The specific foods that you crave (not just like) or hate
2. The specific drinks that you crave or hate
3. What your sleep is like
4. How the weather and the temperature affects you
5. What kinds of things in the environment you are particularly sensitive to
6. What your general level of energy is like
7. What your level of sexual energy or desire is like
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
David
All questions I am answering as you have numbered.
1. last year I felt like i am chocking in the middle of esophagus, not during or after food just in routine, like a knot. I went to get checked they said GERD, gave me prolific for life and bye bye. these symptoms stayed for a week or so and i felt better but i got scared and worried for throat or some other canc-er
symptoms came back after each party meal, (spicy food.
i started avoiding food from parties and stayed better. I stopped prolisic long ago. after that i started feeling pain in my shoulder and back, upper portion of breast, i went to get checked nothing came out. but pains never went away, in the back at a place where shoulder finish, in upper portion of breast next to ribs, and heaviness in arm pit. I am very very sad b/c of all these feeling devastated to get help and scared to get or diagnosed by can-cer.
that is all about my pains and origin.
I have family history and a husband of one friend dieing with can-cer, it have deep effects on me, though my family person is a survivor nut its not helping me.
I love milk, but i feel with dairy products my feeling related with pain gets worse.
the way i am managing my problems.............i looking help from homeopathy or natural medicines to help me though still searching.depression and sadness is only thing comes in my mind related with pain , i feel may be they are going to tell me i am suffering with some bad stuff too.
i must do board exam in USA, i don't want to but every one see positive thing in my exam but me. i am stuck with this exam. child hood was ok. not too perfect not too bad, but that is past, i have no illness related with child hood or bad memories.
i love milk and fruits i do drink lot of black tea with milk.i don't eat yogurt. rest i eat all.i don't like very cold and very hot weather but i don't like too much rain.
sexual energy is OK not bad no complains. usually i was very tired but feeling OK these days, felt lack of energy for few months, really bad but its ok now.sleep is fine. i hope i have answered all questions but if any thing is unexplained , please feel free to discus with me, cheers
All questions I am answering as you have numbered.
1. last year I felt like i am chocking in the middle of esophagus, not during or after food just in routine, like a knot. I went to get checked they said GERD, gave me prolific for life and bye bye. these symptoms stayed for a week or so and i felt better but i got scared and worried for throat or some other canc-er
symptoms came back after each party meal, (spicy food.
i started avoiding food from parties and stayed better. I stopped prolisic long ago. after that i started feeling pain in my shoulder and back, upper portion of breast, i went to get checked nothing came out. but pains never went away, in the back at a place where shoulder finish, in upper portion of breast next to ribs, and heaviness in arm pit. I am very very sad b/c of all these feeling devastated to get help and scared to get or diagnosed by can-cer.
that is all about my pains and origin.
I have family history and a husband of one friend dieing with can-cer, it have deep effects on me, though my family person is a survivor nut its not helping me.
I love milk, but i feel with dairy products my feeling related with pain gets worse.
the way i am managing my problems.............i looking help from homeopathy or natural medicines to help me though still searching.depression and sadness is only thing comes in my mind related with pain , i feel may be they are going to tell me i am suffering with some bad stuff too.
i must do board exam in USA, i don't want to but every one see positive thing in my exam but me. i am stuck with this exam. child hood was ok. not too perfect not too bad, but that is past, i have no illness related with child hood or bad memories.
i love milk and fruits i do drink lot of black tea with milk.i don't eat yogurt. rest i eat all.i don't like very cold and very hot weather but i don't like too much rain.
sexual energy is OK not bad no complains. usually i was very tired but feeling OK these days, felt lack of energy for few months, really bad but its ok now.sleep is fine. i hope i have answered all questions but if any thing is unexplained , please feel free to discus with me, cheers
pinkyM last decade
David
Beside milk i do have problems with wheat, I get burning feelings after bread eating.
there were two emotional traumas I went through my life, my father;s death and second my husband's family attitude.
which was bit harsh than i expected.
but i love my kids and did my best for saving my marriages. so its fine, though i get irritated by them.
I wanted to mention, two days ago i had some food with green chilli and pains are really worse.
in the middle of chest, back and breast.
hoping all helps you to understand my side of life.
Beside milk i do have problems with wheat, I get burning feelings after bread eating.
there were two emotional traumas I went through my life, my father;s death and second my husband's family attitude.
which was bit harsh than i expected.
but i love my kids and did my best for saving my marriages. so its fine, though i get irritated by them.
I wanted to mention, two days ago i had some food with green chilli and pains are really worse.
in the middle of chest, back and breast.
hoping all helps you to understand my side of life.
pinkyM last decade
Which side is of the back is the pain on?
Am I to understand it is under the Scapula?
Describe more on being irritated.
What is so frightening about c ancer?
Describe more about being devastated?
Describe the effect of your father's death on you.
What was the situation with your husband's family?
Describe more about the depression and sadness.
Am I to understand it is under the Scapula?
Describe more on being irritated.
What is so frightening about c ancer?
Describe more about being devastated?
Describe the effect of your father's death on you.
What was the situation with your husband's family?
Describe more about the depression and sadness.
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
Thanks
little further down( exactly where sports wear undergarment's strips comes), left side.
i am not very irritated person more sad and depress.
i don't understand why i am frighted about can-cer. its like a huge curtain on my brain, as much as i try to get out of it its spreading on my brain. i saw few people around me gone with it suffered with it, may be that makes me scared.
i am devastated as i hear any one is suffering, or some one is sad, i will feel worse and will become more sad than others.
its sad the way my father left, an incomplete family for ever. i was very young only three four year old, all went fine though but i always wished the things other way around, with him, you know what i mean.
my in laws never accepted marriage, same old stories, so they said did stupid things to make me sad and anger even insecure.
I wish if my husband could have helped me to deal with it, but he did not. I had but too many expectations, i guess. but marriage is fine so far.
sadness never goes away from my head and fear of suffering, let me give you one example, there is one child in my neighbor hood, a girl of eight years old, his father took her away from mom, so she is staying here in my neighbor hood with dad, all is fine with kid, but each time i look at her , God i go in long series of thoughts, if mom was here things could have been much easier for child, than i will be sacred if some thing happens to me my kiddies will be in same situations.
and list goes on and on, all sounds silly but its happening to me.thanks
little further down( exactly where sports wear undergarment's strips comes), left side.
i am not very irritated person more sad and depress.
i don't understand why i am frighted about can-cer. its like a huge curtain on my brain, as much as i try to get out of it its spreading on my brain. i saw few people around me gone with it suffered with it, may be that makes me scared.
i am devastated as i hear any one is suffering, or some one is sad, i will feel worse and will become more sad than others.
its sad the way my father left, an incomplete family for ever. i was very young only three four year old, all went fine though but i always wished the things other way around, with him, you know what i mean.
my in laws never accepted marriage, same old stories, so they said did stupid things to make me sad and anger even insecure.
I wish if my husband could have helped me to deal with it, but he did not. I had but too many expectations, i guess. but marriage is fine so far.
sadness never goes away from my head and fear of suffering, let me give you one example, there is one child in my neighbor hood, a girl of eight years old, his father took her away from mom, so she is staying here in my neighbor hood with dad, all is fine with kid, but each time i look at her , God i go in long series of thoughts, if mom was here things could have been much easier for child, than i will be sacred if some thing happens to me my kiddies will be in same situations.
and list goes on and on, all sounds silly but its happening to me.thanks
pinkyM last decade
Looking over these symptoms, the remedy that comes to mind is Calc-carb.
Horrible stories affect them profoundly
Fear of disease, fear of c ancer
Lack of support from family or partner
Feeling that something is missing or lacking (general mineral quality)in the family from the loss of your father (carbon trait)
Aggravation from milk although they have a craving for milk
Have you ever used this remedy? Are you able to get hold of it?
I would suggest starting with Calc carb 200c.
Horrible stories affect them profoundly
Fear of disease, fear of c ancer
Lack of support from family or partner
Feeling that something is missing or lacking (general mineral quality)in the family from the loss of your father (carbon trait)
Aggravation from milk although they have a craving for milk
Have you ever used this remedy? Are you able to get hold of it?
I would suggest starting with Calc carb 200c.
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
thanks i start Calc Carb 200 C, how long should i use how many times a day. No I have never tried this.
pinkyM last decade
Take one dose only to begin with. This will be the test dose to see how you react.
Get Calc-carb in a liquid dose if you can. If you get pellets or pillules, you will need to dissolve 2 of them into water/alcohol in a small bottle preferably with a dropper. Ratio of water to alcohol is 5:1.
Once you have a liquid dose (either bought or made by yourself) the bottle should be hit firmly on the palm of the hand twice. Place 1 drop in 1/4 cup of water and stir thoroughly. Take 1 teaspoon into the mouth.
This is one dose, and is the only dose I want you to do for the moment. Report after 3 days (maximum) or at any stage something happens you want to talk about.
Get Calc-carb in a liquid dose if you can. If you get pellets or pillules, you will need to dissolve 2 of them into water/alcohol in a small bottle preferably with a dropper. Ratio of water to alcohol is 5:1.
Once you have a liquid dose (either bought or made by yourself) the bottle should be hit firmly on the palm of the hand twice. Place 1 drop in 1/4 cup of water and stir thoroughly. Take 1 teaspoon into the mouth.
This is one dose, and is the only dose I want you to do for the moment. Report after 3 days (maximum) or at any stage something happens you want to talk about.
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
Water and alcohol ,or any one of them. How much water or alcohol how many ml?? usually dropper bottles are small, shall I use this one. I have small bottle of five flower essence with dropper , can i use it after washing.
pinkyM last decade
David
i was recommended conium and arnica by local pharmacist. as long as i use i am ok but if i leave it pains and depression gets worse. i am still using them in pellets forms, shall i stop these medicines, while using calc- carb. or can use with ur prescription.
i was recommended conium and arnica by local pharmacist. as long as i use i am ok but if i leave it pains and depression gets worse. i am still using them in pellets forms, shall i stop these medicines, while using calc- carb. or can use with ur prescription.
pinkyM last decade
You must stop all other homoeopathic medicines. Only take one medicine at a time.
If you get worse after stopping a medicine, it is suppressing or palliating your condition and this can be dangerous.
If Calc-carb is correct, it will help you on all levels.
If you get worse after stopping a medicine, it is suppressing or palliating your condition and this can be dangerous.
If Calc-carb is correct, it will help you on all levels.
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
HI David
After three days my symptoms are not changed alot, though pains are managed but depression has changed to anger . I donot like to be angery like i was in last two days. I wonder if i had made dose in good way, please help me prescribe in pellet forms, it would be better to and easy to get. I will appreciate.
Yes if you want bit of explanation reading anger, all the hurts i was hiding they came out and I started complaining, i don't like that part of me, complainer and anger. please give remedy, which i can get from local store with it this making step, but if you think same dose i should continue, then plz tell me pellet dose, for accuracy. thanks
After three days my symptoms are not changed alot, though pains are managed but depression has changed to anger . I donot like to be angery like i was in last two days. I wonder if i had made dose in good way, please help me prescribe in pellet forms, it would be better to and easy to get. I will appreciate.
Yes if you want bit of explanation reading anger, all the hurts i was hiding they came out and I started complaining, i don't like that part of me, complainer and anger. please give remedy, which i can get from local store with it this making step, but if you think same dose i should continue, then plz tell me pellet dose, for accuracy. thanks
pinkyM last decade
I would not expect chronic symptoms to change within 3 days, in fact usually there is aggravation occurring at 3 days which may last for 5-7 days after taking your remedy.
It is the correct direction of cure for depression to become anger. This is even understood in pyschology as being common for those who have been depressed.
You must use liquid doses to get the best results. Dry doses (pellets, pillules) will become less and less effective as you continue to use them, and more and more aggravating.
It is also hard to know if you actually are aggravating or if stopping the Conium and Arnica has merely allowed your suppressed symptoms to come up.
Typically, the aggravation on a remedy will peak at 3-5 days and then improve after that. Positive changes from the remedy can usually be seen after 7 days and will slowly become more obvious throughout the second week after a remedy.
After 5-7 days it is can be decided as to whether you need a 2nd dose. Taking another dose too soon may just make the aggravation worse.
It is the correct direction of cure for depression to become anger. This is even understood in pyschology as being common for those who have been depressed.
You must use liquid doses to get the best results. Dry doses (pellets, pillules) will become less and less effective as you continue to use them, and more and more aggravating.
It is also hard to know if you actually are aggravating or if stopping the Conium and Arnica has merely allowed your suppressed symptoms to come up.
Typically, the aggravation on a remedy will peak at 3-5 days and then improve after that. Positive changes from the remedy can usually be seen after 7 days and will slowly become more obvious throughout the second week after a remedy.
After 5-7 days it is can be decided as to whether you need a 2nd dose. Taking another dose too soon may just make the aggravation worse.
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
Hi David
After all this time, I am doing much better regarding depression, but still some time get scared of all dangerous diseases. but pains are same comes and goes. I feel pain even on touching breast, arm pits( left). but there is no noticeable thing. back pain is same comes and go.
what you suggest now??
After all this time, I am doing much better regarding depression, but still some time get scared of all dangerous diseases. but pains are same comes and goes. I feel pain even on touching breast, arm pits( left). but there is no noticeable thing. back pain is same comes and go.
what you suggest now??
pinkyM last decade
Ok it is time to repeat the dose.
However, to avoid a strong aggravation I would suggest diluting the medicine further.
Increase the amount of water to 1/2 cup. Otherwise take the dose exactly as before.
Were the pains coming and going before, in the same way?
However, to avoid a strong aggravation I would suggest diluting the medicine further.
Increase the amount of water to 1/2 cup. Otherwise take the dose exactly as before.
Were the pains coming and going before, in the same way?
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
i will do so, repeat the dose. but check if i am taking right dose. I took 5 ml of water and 1 ml of alcohol 70%. added two pellets of medicine calc-carb 200X. added one drop in 1/4 of water cup?? is it right?/
yes pains were usually more towards periods,one weak before and after. but same they come and go.
yes pains were usually more towards periods,one weak before and after. but same they come and go.
pinkyM last decade
Did you make the mixture in a bottle, that you could hit firmly against the palm of the hand?
I assume you have Calc carb 200c don't you, not 200x which is a completely different potency?
I assume you have Calc carb 200c don't you, not 200x which is a completely different potency?
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
I did not hit on palm, completely forgotten. its written calc-carb 200x on small tube like bottle, i got from local pharmacy. so what i do now??
pinkyM last decade
see i was worried about accuracy, yes its 200 x. i will buy again tomorrow 200c and make a dose. sorry about my reading. i will make in bottle and take right dose and report.
pinkyM last decade
You have started with 200x so now we will need to stick with it.
I had no idea such a potency would be easily available. I have never seen that potency sold in pharmacies. You might want to check that it is X and not C.
Hitting the bottle is vital to continuing good treatment with a remedy. It is very important to do 2 hits each time you take it.
Also make sure this time you use 1/2 cup of water.
I had no idea such a potency would be easily available. I have never seen that potency sold in pharmacies. You might want to check that it is X and not C.
Hitting the bottle is vital to continuing good treatment with a remedy. It is very important to do 2 hits each time you take it.
Also make sure this time you use 1/2 cup of water.
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
Thanks David, yes i saw its written calcarea carbonica 200 ck on it. I don't know how i read , but my apologies. and its from Boiron.
I am sorry , how i made mistake twice about X and C its C for sure now.
one for thing to add, i have little relief from breast pain form yesterday. I have not taken any milk. is it some thing with milk. my energy level and depression is better, i appreciate your kind help, but back pain i had it in the morning as usual, coming and going.
I am sorry , how i made mistake twice about X and C its C for sure now.
one for thing to add, i have little relief from breast pain form yesterday. I have not taken any milk. is it some thing with milk. my energy level and depression is better, i appreciate your kind help, but back pain i had it in the morning as usual, coming and going.
pinkyM last decade
It often takes multiple doses to deal with the various problems. Typically a remedy will improve things in order of importance - mental, emotional, general, physical - although this is not a hard and fast rule.
If a remedy has had a positive effect at all, it is prudent to repeat it, and if necessary go up to a higher potency. If that fails, then a new remedy can be selected based on what has remained as a problem.
If a remedy has had a positive effect at all, it is prudent to repeat it, and if necessary go up to a higher potency. If that fails, then a new remedy can be selected based on what has remained as a problem.
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
David
I am relieved from back pain and breast pains, particularly 'waves'. I don't have waves coming and striking at one point, which was my main problem. but i feel i have wound in my back the point where for last one year i was having pain, there is no wound, but its feeling about that place in my back.same thing in breast i am having feelings about pain at particular points that i am stilling aching there.' under arm pits and on shoulder side of breast i have checked thousand time to see if there is some thing, which is aching, or just feelings.but one thing i am sure 'waves are stopped' but may be the points are still aching. i am also feeling my arms muscles are pain full. I have been in misery b/c of these pains, may be my mind is still not completely out of fear. that was all i wanted to share with you, at this point.
Gracies
I am relieved from back pain and breast pains, particularly 'waves'. I don't have waves coming and striking at one point, which was my main problem. but i feel i have wound in my back the point where for last one year i was having pain, there is no wound, but its feeling about that place in my back.same thing in breast i am having feelings about pain at particular points that i am stilling aching there.' under arm pits and on shoulder side of breast i have checked thousand time to see if there is some thing, which is aching, or just feelings.but one thing i am sure 'waves are stopped' but may be the points are still aching. i am also feeling my arms muscles are pain full. I have been in misery b/c of these pains, may be my mind is still not completely out of fear. that was all i wanted to share with you, at this point.
Gracies
pinkyM last decade
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