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Telesphorus on 2011-08-08
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Your case looks like the sort of case I do best with. I am happy to take you on as a patient. I will look over what you have written and will probably have a few more questions for you.
David Kempson
Professional Homoeopath
David Kempson
Professional Homoeopath
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
Telesphorus last decade
Dear Telesphorus
After reading your case I came to conclusion with following remedy
Take Psorinum-1m 4pills at night for one week
after that it is better to go for 'Bath Flower Remedies' as the act upon mind and emotions. The flower remedies you can take
1. White Chest Nut 2.Mimulus 3. Aspen 4. Cherry Plum
Take 2 drops each in one teaspoon of water for 3 times in a day
Please give me feed back after 15 day on shouse_nsk at rediffmail.
After reading your case I came to conclusion with following remedy
Take Psorinum-1m 4pills at night for one week
after that it is better to go for 'Bath Flower Remedies' as the act upon mind and emotions. The flower remedies you can take
1. White Chest Nut 2.Mimulus 3. Aspen 4. Cherry Plum
Take 2 drops each in one teaspoon of water for 3 times in a day
Please give me feed back after 15 day on shouse_nsk at rediffmail.
shouse_nsk last decade
This case has many features in common with another one that has been given on the forum here which is interesting.
There is a great deal of highly descriptive language here that I believe would suit the use of Dr. Sankaran's Sensation case-taking method. Because I use this method frequently in clinic I recognize that you are already beginning to give your case in a way that lends itself to it.
If you do wish to go ahead with this kind of case-taking technique, could you please expand more on the following expressions and statemens for me.
Use images, stories, pictures, examples drawn from the world and not just your own life. Be as descriptive as you can.
1. What kind of threat would come from people unexpectedly morphing? What would people morph into?
2. What is the experience of sudden unexpected threats? Give analogies to help me understand what this is like for you.
3. Describe more on 'hard inflexible shell'. What is the experience of that? Can this sensation be connected anywhere else in your life?
4. Describe more on 'disconnected from my resources'.
5. Describe more on 'heavy weight pulling me down.
6. Describe more on 'paralyzed'.
7. Describe more on 'escape', 'take flight'.
8. What is the experience of being in a war (the feeling in your dreams)?
There is a great deal of highly descriptive language here that I believe would suit the use of Dr. Sankaran's Sensation case-taking method. Because I use this method frequently in clinic I recognize that you are already beginning to give your case in a way that lends itself to it.
If you do wish to go ahead with this kind of case-taking technique, could you please expand more on the following expressions and statemens for me.
Use images, stories, pictures, examples drawn from the world and not just your own life. Be as descriptive as you can.
1. What kind of threat would come from people unexpectedly morphing? What would people morph into?
2. What is the experience of sudden unexpected threats? Give analogies to help me understand what this is like for you.
3. Describe more on 'hard inflexible shell'. What is the experience of that? Can this sensation be connected anywhere else in your life?
4. Describe more on 'disconnected from my resources'.
5. Describe more on 'heavy weight pulling me down.
6. Describe more on 'paralyzed'.
7. Describe more on 'escape', 'take flight'.
8. What is the experience of being in a war (the feeling in your dreams)?
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
This is a fascinating case - there is something very interesting here. Something I have never heard expressed like this before.
Bear with my while I explore it. I want to look at it from different angles to get a feel for it.
Just go a little deeper for me. I am attempting to isolate the specific expressions in a way that separates them from you and brings them in line with pure remedy expressions.
1. Just explain the meaning of 'morphing'. Give other words for it. Describe this concept without referring directly to your own life. Use some other image if you can.
2. How is singing out of tune a threat to a person?
3. If you cannot run away, how do you protect yourself from a threat?
4. So the experience of a shell is to restrict movement, make you stuck? Makes you unable to change form? What then is the purpose of being able to change form, what is its value?
5. I am understanding there is some issue with survival being dependent on movement - am I right to say that? Can you reiterate what your problem with movement is in your life, or in your problems?
6. Are there any other symptoms in your body which are described by 'Inflexible' 'Stiff', 'Restrained', 'Frozen' ?
Bear with my while I explore it. I want to look at it from different angles to get a feel for it.
Just go a little deeper for me. I am attempting to isolate the specific expressions in a way that separates them from you and brings them in line with pure remedy expressions.
1. Just explain the meaning of 'morphing'. Give other words for it. Describe this concept without referring directly to your own life. Use some other image if you can.
2. How is singing out of tune a threat to a person?
3. If you cannot run away, how do you protect yourself from a threat?
4. So the experience of a shell is to restrict movement, make you stuck? Makes you unable to change form? What then is the purpose of being able to change form, what is its value?
5. I am understanding there is some issue with survival being dependent on movement - am I right to say that? Can you reiterate what your problem with movement is in your life, or in your problems?
6. Are there any other symptoms in your body which are described by 'Inflexible' 'Stiff', 'Restrained', 'Frozen' ?
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
What is your reaction/feeling/strategy to not being able to move? How do you live with such sensations and feelings?
Imagine for me the most perfect form of movement - what do you see? What would embody it?
Imagine the complete opposite of this - what do you see?
What is 'something great' you feel you must do?
Imagine for me the most perfect form of movement - what do you see? What would embody it?
Imagine the complete opposite of this - what do you see?
What is 'something great' you feel you must do?
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
I have to say, this is one of the most fascinating descriptions I have ever seen on this forum.
I believe this is an animal remedy. Which one I am trying to determine.
I believe this is an animal remedy. Which one I am trying to determine.
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
Clumsy on land elegant in water reminds me of water birds and seals, but the image of the hard inflexible shell does indeed suggest either the turtles, or the molluscs.
I examined the two provings we have of the snapping turtle (Chelydra serpentina) and the desert tortoise (Geochelone sulcata). There are a few elements of your case found in Chelydra, but I canot say that it is compelling enough for me to give it.
The basic state (non-human specific or remedy) can be see from these expressions:
Hard inflexible shell
Heavy weight pulling me down
Hard and cold when threatened
Withdraw to protect myself
Outside/inside
Opening has shifted to another place
Stiff dry and rigid
Change identity without changing outer form
Cannot swim, lose ability to move - Swimming
Clumsy on land elegant in water
Caged, cannot fly, cannot move, take flight, escape
Use force to penetrate
Raw mass of flesh
Hide, become invisible
Retract
Rigid hard form that shatters into pieces
This has strong suggestions of the Mollusc group of remedies. In that group, the mollusc that is most restricted by its shell is the Oyster, who is stuck in one place and cannot move; who cannot take flight and escape, but must stay where they are and deal with any threat by simply withdrawing into their shell and closing themselves. Their greatest threat is when something is able to break that shell, when enough force is applied to it, or some other way is found through. Their lack of movement then means they cannot survive.
I wrote this about Oyster (Crassostrea gigas) in another post a few months ago:
'One of the main features of all the bivalves is the closing and opening of a shell as defence mechanism. Each one feels a great sense of vulnerability when they are open and unprotected, and respond to this fear and insecurity by closing themselves off behind a wall or some other kind of protection. One of our main polycrest remedies is actually made from the Oyster shell - Calc-carb - where this specific feature is greatly exaggerated.
A pratitioner may choose to use the whole Oyster as a remedy because the patient expresses problems and symptoms which go outside of the simple 'Shell for protection' concept of Calc-carb. Feelings of being stuck and immovable, acute feelings of a soft vulnerable interior, a tendency to withdraw and retreat from any threat. Although they need to close themselves off for protection, there are distressing feelings of being cut-off, disconnected or claustrophobic.
There are pains which may be hammering, pounding, stabbing, piercing, crushing, shattering, penetrating, drilling.
There are many more ways of coming to this remedy - by looking at the case you gave I could probably tell why they gave it, but it is hard to know without that.
So a summary of all the Oysters is:
A soft tender vulnerable person who needs to build a protective covering around themselves as a defence from a threatening outside world.
A need to close themselves off, to shut off, to withdraw or retreat, to move away.
Feeling of needing to be hard on the outside, but being soft on the inside.
Opening and closing as a theme (gestures, language, movements, behaviour)
Open = vulnerable
Closed = safe and secure
Coming out where they can breathe and interact but then they feel unsafe
Going back inside where it is safe, but then they feel suffocated and cut-off
Needing to be enveloped by a blanket or other security measure, to be wrapped up is to be safe.
Feeling attached to something for security, but then being stuck and unable to move (forward).'
I will wait to hear your thoughts and will continue to ponder your descriptions.
I examined the two provings we have of the snapping turtle (Chelydra serpentina) and the desert tortoise (Geochelone sulcata). There are a few elements of your case found in Chelydra, but I canot say that it is compelling enough for me to give it.
The basic state (non-human specific or remedy) can be see from these expressions:
Hard inflexible shell
Heavy weight pulling me down
Hard and cold when threatened
Withdraw to protect myself
Outside/inside
Opening has shifted to another place
Stiff dry and rigid
Change identity without changing outer form
Cannot swim, lose ability to move - Swimming
Clumsy on land elegant in water
Caged, cannot fly, cannot move, take flight, escape
Use force to penetrate
Raw mass of flesh
Hide, become invisible
Retract
Rigid hard form that shatters into pieces
This has strong suggestions of the Mollusc group of remedies. In that group, the mollusc that is most restricted by its shell is the Oyster, who is stuck in one place and cannot move; who cannot take flight and escape, but must stay where they are and deal with any threat by simply withdrawing into their shell and closing themselves. Their greatest threat is when something is able to break that shell, when enough force is applied to it, or some other way is found through. Their lack of movement then means they cannot survive.
I wrote this about Oyster (Crassostrea gigas) in another post a few months ago:
'One of the main features of all the bivalves is the closing and opening of a shell as defence mechanism. Each one feels a great sense of vulnerability when they are open and unprotected, and respond to this fear and insecurity by closing themselves off behind a wall or some other kind of protection. One of our main polycrest remedies is actually made from the Oyster shell - Calc-carb - where this specific feature is greatly exaggerated.
A pratitioner may choose to use the whole Oyster as a remedy because the patient expresses problems and symptoms which go outside of the simple 'Shell for protection' concept of Calc-carb. Feelings of being stuck and immovable, acute feelings of a soft vulnerable interior, a tendency to withdraw and retreat from any threat. Although they need to close themselves off for protection, there are distressing feelings of being cut-off, disconnected or claustrophobic.
There are pains which may be hammering, pounding, stabbing, piercing, crushing, shattering, penetrating, drilling.
There are many more ways of coming to this remedy - by looking at the case you gave I could probably tell why they gave it, but it is hard to know without that.
So a summary of all the Oysters is:
A soft tender vulnerable person who needs to build a protective covering around themselves as a defence from a threatening outside world.
A need to close themselves off, to shut off, to withdraw or retreat, to move away.
Feeling of needing to be hard on the outside, but being soft on the inside.
Opening and closing as a theme (gestures, language, movements, behaviour)
Open = vulnerable
Closed = safe and secure
Coming out where they can breathe and interact but then they feel unsafe
Going back inside where it is safe, but then they feel suffocated and cut-off
Needing to be enveloped by a blanket or other security measure, to be wrapped up is to be safe.
Feeling attached to something for security, but then being stuck and unable to move (forward).'
I will wait to hear your thoughts and will continue to ponder your descriptions.
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
I haven't seen any reptile language in your case though, and neither of the two turtle remedies we has suits you. I don't think tht group is right for you.
It is important not to try and translate too much directly across to zoological information. We have provings and other homoeopathic information on the various animal groups based on clinical experience (cured cases).
One part of the mollusc group is all about movement and speed - that is the Cephalopds. I do not have all my reference material with me at the moment for that sub-group. There are a number of proved remedies - lesser octopus, clubhook squid, nautilus, cuttlefish.
However it is easy for me to begin altering your expressions now. I need to be cautious of that. Just because I have an idea doesn't mean it is correct, and it should not influence you. You don't need to worry about what your remedy is made from, just continue expressing your sensations and feelings. Once a person begins to think about animals they get lost in intellectualization and imagination, and we don't want that. If you need a plant or mineral then diverting you to talking about animals may take us too far away from the truth.
All the animals have themes in common - movement, survival, threat, attack, defence, protection.
It is important not to try and translate too much directly across to zoological information. We have provings and other homoeopathic information on the various animal groups based on clinical experience (cured cases).
One part of the mollusc group is all about movement and speed - that is the Cephalopds. I do not have all my reference material with me at the moment for that sub-group. There are a number of proved remedies - lesser octopus, clubhook squid, nautilus, cuttlefish.
However it is easy for me to begin altering your expressions now. I need to be cautious of that. Just because I have an idea doesn't mean it is correct, and it should not influence you. You don't need to worry about what your remedy is made from, just continue expressing your sensations and feelings. Once a person begins to think about animals they get lost in intellectualization and imagination, and we don't want that. If you need a plant or mineral then diverting you to talking about animals may take us too far away from the truth.
All the animals have themes in common - movement, survival, threat, attack, defence, protection.
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
There are a few different ways to go with this case. I am going to do something a bit less complicated that trying to find an unknown animal remedy for you.
The issue of movement, and the feels of stiffness, rigidity, stuckness etc are key problems of the Anacardiaciea family in which Rhus-tox is the most well known member. However, I do not believe the miasm (chronic disease pattern) is covered by that remedy.
On looking at the two remedies that helped you the most, Thuja and Carc, this makes me think of another remedy that can be seen as a combination of those two remedies (if such a thing can ever be said), and which belongs to this particular plant group - Anacardium.
Many of your mental expressions, fears, dreams can be seen in Anacardium.
Is it possible to get hold of 200c?
[message edited by brisbanehomoeopath on Thu, 11 Aug 2011 08:13:30 BST]
The issue of movement, and the feels of stiffness, rigidity, stuckness etc are key problems of the Anacardiaciea family in which Rhus-tox is the most well known member. However, I do not believe the miasm (chronic disease pattern) is covered by that remedy.
On looking at the two remedies that helped you the most, Thuja and Carc, this makes me think of another remedy that can be seen as a combination of those two remedies (if such a thing can ever be said), and which belongs to this particular plant group - Anacardium.
Many of your mental expressions, fears, dreams can be seen in Anacardium.
Is it possible to get hold of 200c?
[message edited by brisbanehomoeopath on Thu, 11 Aug 2011 08:13:30 BST]
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
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