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Too much of Gas - Remedies required
Hi,recently having a lot of Gas build up with huge burps after pressing the abdomen and trapped gas which is difficult to expel,
Age- 28 years of age
Desire for sweets,
Hypochondria & panic attacks,
Likes solitude,
Don't like social events or attending them, rather being at home and reading books or hobbies of solitary nature.
Mind - Anger at slightest comment, short- tempered,
likes perfection in everything,
Obsessive compulsive disorder,
Washes hands many times at every place before eating .
Aversion to work,
Dislike physical work and do a lot of mental work.
Sedentary job,
Sleep - Restless or think a lot.
Stool - Is constipated with semi solid first and pasty that sticks to the pan (many times with mucous)
Aggravation of Gas - Whole day but mostly in the evening from 4-7 pm after food and then again 3 hours after dinner .
I feel I match Sulphur, Nux Vomica, Lycopodium. My colic before stool also is helped by colocynth recently. But still I need a remedy that can suit me . Need solutions .
samur420 on 2012-03-21
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I feel a lot like Colocyn
A few symptoms to add-
Mind extremely irritable,
think more from the heart than head.
Great to good, and worse to bad.
Extreme emotions,
Food keeps on converting in to gas.
Frequent fermentation producing gas at slightest eating.
Feel like eating but abdomen is like drum.
Anger with indignation.
Stools are dysentric, stool changeable, constipation with semi solid.
A few symptoms to add-
Mind extremely irritable,
think more from the heart than head.
Great to good, and worse to bad.
Extreme emotions,
Food keeps on converting in to gas.
Frequent fermentation producing gas at slightest eating.
Feel like eating but abdomen is like drum.
Anger with indignation.
Stools are dysentric, stool changeable, constipation with semi solid.
samur420 last decade
Nat Phos 6x is your remedy.
Dose 3 tablets after each of 3 meals and you can reduce dosage to 2 after every meal when you discover relief which you can expect after the first dose you take.
Add Arnica 30c in the Wet dose taken twice daily,
The Wet dose of any Homeopathic remedy is made as follows:
Order the remedy in the Liquid pack in Alcohol, also referred to as Liquid Dilution in a bottle preferably with a dropper arrangement.
Get a 500ml bottle of Spring Water from the nearest supermarket.
Pour out about 3cm of water from the bottle to leave some airspace.
Insert 3 drops of the remedy into the bottle and shake the bottle hard at least 6 times before you sip a capfull of the bottle or a large teaspoonful which is the dose.
Shaking the bottle hard is homeopathic succussion and this enhances the effect of the remedy on the user.
Dose 3 tablets after each of 3 meals and you can reduce dosage to 2 after every meal when you discover relief which you can expect after the first dose you take.
Add Arnica 30c in the Wet dose taken twice daily,
The Wet dose of any Homeopathic remedy is made as follows:
Order the remedy in the Liquid pack in Alcohol, also referred to as Liquid Dilution in a bottle preferably with a dropper arrangement.
Get a 500ml bottle of Spring Water from the nearest supermarket.
Pour out about 3cm of water from the bottle to leave some airspace.
Insert 3 drops of the remedy into the bottle and shake the bottle hard at least 6 times before you sip a capfull of the bottle or a large teaspoonful which is the dose.
Shaking the bottle hard is homeopathic succussion and this enhances the effect of the remedy on the user.
♡ Joe De Livera last decade
You haven't quite given enough information for a proper homoeopathic prescription to be made. When you look like several remedies, it is very likely that you need a completely different remedy. It is important to get alot of detail to be able to distinguish between the many remedies that might help you.
You can take Joe's suggested remedy which doesn't suit all your symptoms, or you can have your case taken by a homoeopath and something more precise prescribed. The process of case taking takes a fair amount of effort though so you need to be prepared to do that.
Although you haven't yet provided all the details for a confident prescription, I repertorized what you have given in order to assess the remedies you mentioned and Joe's suggestion.
Desire solitude
Easily offended
Constant desire to wash hands (I am not convined this rubric suits you)
Aversion to work
Sleepless from activity of thoughts
Mucous in stool
Eructation difficult
Moods changeable
Food turns to gas
Aggravation 4-7pm
Out of these symptoms Nat-phos matches only 3
Aversion to work (436 other remedies in this symptom so this is of little use to us)
Sleepless from activity of thoughts
Mucous in the stool (454 remedies in this rubric so again not much use to us)
Nux-vomica scores for 7 of those symptoms. It does not cover the desire to wash the hands, the sleeplessness from thoughts, or the difficult eructations. However it is still an interesting choice.
Lycopodium covers 6 of those symptoms. Again it does not cover the washing of the hands, sleeplessness from thoughts or the difficulty in burping. It also does not specifically cover 4-7pm aggravation, although it is well known for a 4pm aggravation or 4-8pm. I might be inclined to fit it into that rubric anyway and it would then match Nux-v for number of symptoms.
Colocynth only scores for 4 symptoms - Easily offended, Aversion to work, Mucous in the stool and the 4-7pm aggravation.
As you can see, just using repertory in a simple mathematical way does not really lead you to the right remedy. The case needs to be understand from a broader perspective. Each remedy has a state which lies behind the symptoms, and it is the state (often called totality) which must be matched. Then you can prescribe a remedy with confidence, and it will cure many symptoms in the case not just one or two.
For proper case analysis to be done, many of those symptoms need to be explored further. As examples:
What is the feeling of being in a social situation?
What exactly constitutes obessive and compulsive for you?
What brings you to wash your hands before eating? Is it only before eating and not at other times?
What is the feeling of working? What is it about work you do not like?
How does being active affect you?
What thoughts keep you awake at night?
What is the colour and smell of your stool? How is it changeable?
What does the mucous in the stool look like?
What is it that offends you?
What do you do when you get angry and offended?
Describe more on 'extreme emotions'
What does it mean for your abdomen to be like a 'drum'?
As you can see each symptom leads to more questions, since our remedies have those kinds of details. On top of that, more about you needs to be discerned. I will post my normal intake form here so you can get an idea of what might help us to know about you.
INSTRUCTIONS FOR GIVING YOUR CASE
Go through each problem one at a time giving a full description of what happens, what pains and sensations you get, what makes it worse and what makes it better, the history of the complaint including when it started and what was happening around that time.
Write a separate section for each problem. Cover even the smallest problems you have.
If any of your symptoms occur together, or immediately before or after one another this is important to note as well.
Do not give single word or short sentence descriptions. The more information you give the better I will be able to help.
Do not read up on the remedies and discuss them. Do not attempt to use the Remedy Finder program on this site. Try to keep yourself apart from all the information about remedies on the internet. Such research on your part actually makes it harder to find the right remedy for you not easier.
Whenever you describe a sensation or pain, try to help me to imagine having that same pain. For example, what would have to happen to me to recreate that symptom?
Allow yourself to diverge if you wish. If discussing the problem brings up any emotional or mental issues, then discuss them.
Do not edit your report, except for spelling mistakes. It is important that even if you use the wrong word, you write that. You can correct yourself in the next sentence.
If you have not done this by the time you have covered your problems, discuss the problems you have generally had in your life. What have been the big traumas, the big issues for you? Where have you felt unable to change, where do you get stuck repeating the same behaviours?
Also discuss the issues you might have had in childhood. Talk about your family, your upbringing, your parents. What kind of child were you? What did you fear, what did you aspire to, what do you remember the most?
Lastly talk about the way in which you handle or cope with your problems. What are the patterns that reoccur in your life? How do you find yourself managing your problems, even if it is not successful? To what degree do your problems affect you? How do you think everything will work out in the end for you?
There will almost certainly be more questions from me after this to clarify and to explore further.
If you decide this is all too much for you, then feel free to pursue Joe's suggestion. Otherwise do your best to answer my questions.
David Kempson
Professional Classical Homoeopath
Dip.Hom.Med.1994
You can take Joe's suggested remedy which doesn't suit all your symptoms, or you can have your case taken by a homoeopath and something more precise prescribed. The process of case taking takes a fair amount of effort though so you need to be prepared to do that.
Although you haven't yet provided all the details for a confident prescription, I repertorized what you have given in order to assess the remedies you mentioned and Joe's suggestion.
Desire solitude
Easily offended
Constant desire to wash hands (I am not convined this rubric suits you)
Aversion to work
Sleepless from activity of thoughts
Mucous in stool
Eructation difficult
Moods changeable
Food turns to gas
Aggravation 4-7pm
Out of these symptoms Nat-phos matches only 3
Aversion to work (436 other remedies in this symptom so this is of little use to us)
Sleepless from activity of thoughts
Mucous in the stool (454 remedies in this rubric so again not much use to us)
Nux-vomica scores for 7 of those symptoms. It does not cover the desire to wash the hands, the sleeplessness from thoughts, or the difficult eructations. However it is still an interesting choice.
Lycopodium covers 6 of those symptoms. Again it does not cover the washing of the hands, sleeplessness from thoughts or the difficulty in burping. It also does not specifically cover 4-7pm aggravation, although it is well known for a 4pm aggravation or 4-8pm. I might be inclined to fit it into that rubric anyway and it would then match Nux-v for number of symptoms.
Colocynth only scores for 4 symptoms - Easily offended, Aversion to work, Mucous in the stool and the 4-7pm aggravation.
As you can see, just using repertory in a simple mathematical way does not really lead you to the right remedy. The case needs to be understand from a broader perspective. Each remedy has a state which lies behind the symptoms, and it is the state (often called totality) which must be matched. Then you can prescribe a remedy with confidence, and it will cure many symptoms in the case not just one or two.
For proper case analysis to be done, many of those symptoms need to be explored further. As examples:
What is the feeling of being in a social situation?
What exactly constitutes obessive and compulsive for you?
What brings you to wash your hands before eating? Is it only before eating and not at other times?
What is the feeling of working? What is it about work you do not like?
How does being active affect you?
What thoughts keep you awake at night?
What is the colour and smell of your stool? How is it changeable?
What does the mucous in the stool look like?
What is it that offends you?
What do you do when you get angry and offended?
Describe more on 'extreme emotions'
What does it mean for your abdomen to be like a 'drum'?
As you can see each symptom leads to more questions, since our remedies have those kinds of details. On top of that, more about you needs to be discerned. I will post my normal intake form here so you can get an idea of what might help us to know about you.
INSTRUCTIONS FOR GIVING YOUR CASE
Go through each problem one at a time giving a full description of what happens, what pains and sensations you get, what makes it worse and what makes it better, the history of the complaint including when it started and what was happening around that time.
Write a separate section for each problem. Cover even the smallest problems you have.
If any of your symptoms occur together, or immediately before or after one another this is important to note as well.
Do not give single word or short sentence descriptions. The more information you give the better I will be able to help.
Do not read up on the remedies and discuss them. Do not attempt to use the Remedy Finder program on this site. Try to keep yourself apart from all the information about remedies on the internet. Such research on your part actually makes it harder to find the right remedy for you not easier.
Whenever you describe a sensation or pain, try to help me to imagine having that same pain. For example, what would have to happen to me to recreate that symptom?
Allow yourself to diverge if you wish. If discussing the problem brings up any emotional or mental issues, then discuss them.
Do not edit your report, except for spelling mistakes. It is important that even if you use the wrong word, you write that. You can correct yourself in the next sentence.
If you have not done this by the time you have covered your problems, discuss the problems you have generally had in your life. What have been the big traumas, the big issues for you? Where have you felt unable to change, where do you get stuck repeating the same behaviours?
Also discuss the issues you might have had in childhood. Talk about your family, your upbringing, your parents. What kind of child were you? What did you fear, what did you aspire to, what do you remember the most?
Lastly talk about the way in which you handle or cope with your problems. What are the patterns that reoccur in your life? How do you find yourself managing your problems, even if it is not successful? To what degree do your problems affect you? How do you think everything will work out in the end for you?
There will almost certainly be more questions from me after this to clarify and to explore further.
If you decide this is all too much for you, then feel free to pursue Joe's suggestion. Otherwise do your best to answer my questions.
David Kempson
Professional Classical Homoeopath
Dip.Hom.Med.1994
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
David
I am glad to see you back in action with your usual critical approach to my Joepathy which is different from the classical homeopathy that you practice and prescribe. I presume that your treatise took you at least a good hour or more to type into this thread. I have no objections to the patient being treated by you and I can see that you are anxious to do so
I checked your comments on Radar which I do not normally use today as it is somewhat inconvenient to use on my MacBook Pro as it can only be opened by Parallels Desktop.
As you are only too aware I take the 'bull by the horns' and in this case I have prescribed Nat Phos 6x and Arnica 30c in the WD as I have had positive responses from thousands of grateful patients both on the ABC and on my own website not to mention those who consult me here in Colombo, that they were CURED of their GERD by these two simple remedies which are my default therapy for GERD.
In the case of this patient I had overlooked the fact that s/he is partial to sweets as indicated in the line just under Age. As you are aware, sugar is difficult to digest in excess and if this patient take too much this too can be a causative factor. If the patient reads this post you are advised to STOP eating sweets if you wish to be cured.
I shall await both the patient's and your own response if any, with interest.
Joe De Livera
I am glad to see you back in action with your usual critical approach to my Joepathy which is different from the classical homeopathy that you practice and prescribe. I presume that your treatise took you at least a good hour or more to type into this thread. I have no objections to the patient being treated by you and I can see that you are anxious to do so
I checked your comments on Radar which I do not normally use today as it is somewhat inconvenient to use on my MacBook Pro as it can only be opened by Parallels Desktop.
As you are only too aware I take the 'bull by the horns' and in this case I have prescribed Nat Phos 6x and Arnica 30c in the WD as I have had positive responses from thousands of grateful patients both on the ABC and on my own website not to mention those who consult me here in Colombo, that they were CURED of their GERD by these two simple remedies which are my default therapy for GERD.
In the case of this patient I had overlooked the fact that s/he is partial to sweets as indicated in the line just under Age. As you are aware, sugar is difficult to digest in excess and if this patient take too much this too can be a causative factor. If the patient reads this post you are advised to STOP eating sweets if you wish to be cured.
I shall await both the patient's and your own response if any, with interest.
Joe De Livera
♡ Joe De Livera last decade
I didn't expect such a flare over my question. I wish to be treated with no offense to both of you, I would be happy that both of you can give out your respective remedies over my case.
To Brisbanehomeopath - I agree that even the smallest details are essential, but day to day lifestyle also has a change of mood, psychological thinking, pattern, health etc... so detailing it that when I have mood and health swings could be a little difficult, still I will try to put it down here.
However the agrravation I mentioned 4-7 pm which fits Lycopodium in materia medica is contradicted by you and later agreed upon, so can you clarify the line 'it also does not specifically cover 4-7pm aggravation, although it is well known for a 4pm aggravation or 4-8pm.', it has left me confused . And if Nux Vomica and Lycopodium matches my symptoms over the given statements, what potencies should be taken.
To Brisbanehomeopath - I agree that even the smallest details are essential, but day to day lifestyle also has a change of mood, psychological thinking, pattern, health etc... so detailing it that when I have mood and health swings could be a little difficult, still I will try to put it down here.
However the agrravation I mentioned 4-7 pm which fits Lycopodium in materia medica is contradicted by you and later agreed upon, so can you clarify the line 'it also does not specifically cover 4-7pm aggravation, although it is well known for a 4pm aggravation or 4-8pm.', it has left me confused . And if Nux Vomica and Lycopodium matches my symptoms over the given statements, what potencies should be taken.
samur420 last decade
To Joe- Thanks for the prompt response but I feel Arnica symptoms don't match my conditions. Maybe I can try Nat Phos .
samur420 last decade
♡ Joe De Livera last decade
Joe and I do not agree, so there is no point in both of us being in this thread. It will only cause conflict. Unfortunately you will have to choose one path to follow.
Lycopodium';s period of aggravation is 4-8pm, not 4-7pm. However, it is close enough that I would not exclude the remedy on this basis unless there was a remedy that very specifically has this 3 hour time aggravation, and the patient was very sure of it.
Do not take Nux-v or Lycopodium yet. Until I understand your state there is no way to tell what your remedy is. I said that a mathematical adding up of symptoms rarely gives success, so only by exploring the case further can the correct remedy be found.
In case taking you look for patterns. One of the reasons you cover so much of the person's life and behaviour is so those patterns will become obvious.
Lycopodium';s period of aggravation is 4-8pm, not 4-7pm. However, it is close enough that I would not exclude the remedy on this basis unless there was a remedy that very specifically has this 3 hour time aggravation, and the patient was very sure of it.
Do not take Nux-v or Lycopodium yet. Until I understand your state there is no way to tell what your remedy is. I said that a mathematical adding up of symptoms rarely gives success, so only by exploring the case further can the correct remedy be found.
In case taking you look for patterns. One of the reasons you cover so much of the person's life and behaviour is so those patterns will become obvious.
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
Hi,
I do understand Homeopathy is based on details but if 4 to 7 pm and 4 to 8 pm too is looked with such minute focus it is obvious that there will be no remedy on earth that will match all the symptoms of the person being treated in every branch ( Abdomen, Modalities, Generalities, Throat, etc etc) , Homeopathy is to narrow down to majority of the symptoms if I am not wrong, till you get a specific remedy which is closest to your symptoms.
I do understand Homeopathy is based on details but if 4 to 7 pm and 4 to 8 pm too is looked with such minute focus it is obvious that there will be no remedy on earth that will match all the symptoms of the person being treated in every branch ( Abdomen, Modalities, Generalities, Throat, etc etc) , Homeopathy is to narrow down to majority of the symptoms if I am not wrong, till you get a specific remedy which is closest to your symptoms.
samur420 last decade
Samur
I have no objection to your following David's classical therapy which may help you in a few weeks or months.
This is the difference in my Joepathy which will help you within the hour by relieving the cause of your gas which is caused by the stagnation of food in your stomach which then ferments and produces gas.
The NP will accelerate the passage of food down the gut and you should observe the relief within a few hours after a meal.
Report progress.
I have no objection to your following David's classical therapy which may help you in a few weeks or months.
This is the difference in my Joepathy which will help you within the hour by relieving the cause of your gas which is caused by the stagnation of food in your stomach which then ferments and produces gas.
The NP will accelerate the passage of food down the gut and you should observe the relief within a few hours after a meal.
Report progress.
♡ Joe De Livera last decade
All the symptoms do not need to be matched. All of the peculiar ones do. Time aggravations are often very peculiar (individual) and so are typically considered important. However many patients do not really notice their time aggravations, or they just guess at them. This makes them unreliable symptoms unless the patient is very observant, or keeps a diary (which I often insist on so that I can use those kinds of symptoms with confidence).
Just matching symptoms is in itself not reliable. You must find the state that lies behind the symptoms - that is what needs to be matched to the remedy. If you get that, you will cure, regardless of what symptoms may or may not appear in the materia medica.
Just matching symptoms is in itself not reliable. You must find the state that lies behind the symptoms - that is what needs to be matched to the remedy. If you get that, you will cure, regardless of what symptoms may or may not appear in the materia medica.
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
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