Help to stop smoking

There are two ways to approach this with homoeopathy.

It is important to understand that there are no 'stop smoking' remedies in homoeopathy. Homoeopathy does not work in a 'this for that' kind of way. All treatments must be individualised to the person.

The first approach would be to try and cure the reason you find quitting so problematic. This would be the traditional approach and has the greatest chance of success. In your case, it might be prudent to increase your will power, since will power is the single most important thing needed to give up any addiction. This is called constituational prescribing and takes a reasonable amount of effort from both practitioner and client.

The second approach would be to wait unti you begin to experience symptoms associated with withdrawal and have a medicine prescribed for them. This is more in line with acute prescribing, and may or may not help in the long run. The problem with this approach is that since each prescription takes time to make, you can 'bust' before you get the remedy.

Either way, I would be happy to help you out. Let me know which way you wish to go.

David Kempson
Professional Classical Homoeopath
Dip.Hom.Med. 1994

Cececalli

Your remedy is Arnica 6c in the Wet dose taken twice daily.

The Wet dose of any Homeopathic remedy is made as follows:

Order the remedy in the Liquid pack in Alcohol, also referred to as Liquid Dilution in a bottle preferably with a dropper arrangement.
Get a 500ml bottle of Spring Water from the nearest supermarket.
Pour out about 3cm of water from the bottle to leave some airspace.
Insert 3 drops of the remedy into the bottle and shake the bottle hard at least 6 times before you sip a capfull of the bottle or a large teaspoonful which is the dose.
Shaking the bottle hard is homeopathic succussion and this enhances the effect of the remedy on the user.


Please visit the link below entitled
'How I QUIT smoking' by Will88 who was an inveterate chain smoker and was successful in Quitting smoking with my therapy aka 'Joepathy.'

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/71302/

I notice that David has stated that
'Homoeopathy does not work in a 'this for that' kind of way. All treatments must be individualised to the person.'

David is not the only classical homeopath who refuses to accept the simple fact that the 'this for that' approach in Homeopathy does in fact work admirably well and you will read from the accounts of many other classical homeopaths on this thread that they prefer to stick by the classical rules even after the patient categorically states that he was cured.

I am not the only person to use this therapy as there is ample proof that other homeopaths too use my direct approach of treating the disease instead of the symptoms that cause it.

If you wish to have more information you can visit:
PRASANTA BANERJI HOMEOPATHIC RESEARCH FOUNDATION
http://www.pbhrfindia.org/

Arnica 30c will not help you to kick smoking.

It is only Arnica 6c in the Wet dose that will.
Please follow my detailed instructions to make the Wet dose and it is best to await the arrival of Arnica 6c in the Liquid dilution to make the Wet dose.

Good to learn that you have been using Arnica on your horses. It was very long ago that I was in Australia and I brought back by sea a riding hack 17 hands tall and I used to ride him every morning on Galle Face Green or in the Race Course in Colombo where I live in the mid Fifties till I could not spend all that time on exercise and presented him to the Police where he was always at the head of all parades because of his majestic stance.

Please visit my website for more information on Arnica and read the link below:

Arnica the Miracle Remedy

http://www.joedelivera.com/?p=66

Incidentally are you
Australian?

I see you have decided to take a non-homoeopathic approach. If you wish to try homoeopathy instead at a later stage just let me know.

David

David

I can sense the disappointment in your note that the patient did not take your classical approach seriously. Your statement copied below is not strictly correct:
'I see you have decided to take a non-homoeopathic approach.'

I may not follow the 'classical' Homeopathic approach but I do use standard Homeopathic remedies which are available in any part of the world. My therapy therefore qualifies to be classified as Homeopathic but more correctly as 'Joepathy' (Joepathic?).

Please remember that I did NOT coin this term which Gavini Murthy first used way back in 2004 to derisively describe my therapy. However in his last post addressed to me he stated:

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/231958/

You must have observed that I am not the die hard classical homeopath any more. I now appreciate that homeopathic medicines are capable of curing even when used in the non classical way.

It is my hope that you too will open your eyes and follow Gavini's lead.

You may like to know that I have helped scores of patients who were chronic addicts to:
Smoking
Alcohol
Chocolates
DRUGS
Overeating

The large majority of them have responded within the WEEK and it is my hope that this patient too will be another success story. As you are aware, I do not gain any monetary gain from helping anyone to overcome his ailments unlike you. It is just the satisfaction that I get in sharing with you and with others, my own discoveries based on real life. Not just on book learning and classical homeopathic theories only.

Have you ever prescribed Arnica and Nat Phos to a patient who suffered from 3 strokes 8 years ago and returned him back to health in a year? As you are aware, I have CURED Robert Ray with my Joepathy. You are invited to copy my therapy and report results. FYI I did not follow the classical method to CURE Robert and he has reported in his last post on the ABC that you had him blocked from the ABC simply because he was all in praise of my Joepathy.

Is this true?

Joe

Lyco

Please read my post addressed to David which crossed yours and which will answer your concerns.

I must admit that I too am amazed at how just one remedy, Arnica can be successfully used to help patients who present a multitude of diverse ailments but facts are stubborn and you can read the reports of grateful patients on this ABC and on my own website:
joedelivera.com.

Please remember that I am NOT the only Homeopath who has discounted the 'classical' rules pertaining to 'Simila Similibur Curantur'.
Visit the link below for further food for thought:
PRASANTA BANERJI HOMEOPATHIC RESEARCH FOUNDATION
http://www.pbhrfindia.org/

I do not have that piece of paper that grants me the right to be addressed as 'Dr'. Homeopathy is NOT my profession and at my advanced age of 83, I believe that I have proved that Homeopaths who practice my own version of Homeopathy --- 'Joepathy' are by far more successful in alleviating human suffering than all you 'classical' homeopath put together.

We HEAL you THEORIZE. All in the name of Hahnemann !

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Simone

I first started experimenting with Arnica 30c in the dry pellets to experiment on chronic smokers way back in 2003. After my conversion to the Wet dose which as you may know I use exclusively to dispense remedies, which incidentally I do completely free of any charge, I used the 6c potency which I discovered produced quicker results.

You may like to know that I used Arnica 30c for Diabetics originally but now use the 3c which is infinitely better. It reduces the demand for Insulin in the case of Type I Diabetics by about 75% while the 30c reduces it by about 30%. This information is not known or referred to in classical homeopathic texts.

I do not believe that any classical homeopath will ever publish this classified information for general use by others but I do not look for any reward from my discoveries in Joepathy which I prefer to share with those who can use it either for themselves or if they are professionals, for their patients. As you may know I do not think that any classical homeopath like the two who have criticizee me in their posts above will even dream of using Arnica for Diabetes, not even with the patient reports that he is CURED and does not need to take Arnica anymore.

Thank you for alerting me to my post on my website where I had specified Arnica 30c for smokers as it is important that I correct it immediately to read 6c.

Cececalli

I am glad that you have accepted my Joepathy which as I stated above is not my exclusive preserve as other qualified homeopaths, the Drs Banerji also practice the same methodology in treating over 1500 patients daily which they too do free of charge like me.

I must admit that these barbs from the classical sect do irritate me and I am compelled to waste my time in rebutting their inane arguments which I have always done even at the cost of a lot of my time. I feel impelled to do so if only to show up these impostors who give their patients the run around in the standard classical manner where they prescribe a remedy, usually not identified, and order the patient to revisit them next week to record their progress. They all know fully well that a remedy they have used for the same ailment presented by another patient will usually work in the same manner with their current patient but they have so convoluted their therapy to enable them to pull the wool over the eyes of the patient who does not have any alternative but to abide by their therapy.

It is only when repeated visits to the classical homeopath do not cure their ailment they come to me for help and are agreeably surprised to discover that I succeed in curing their ailment with my Joepathy sometimes overnight.

Your case of trying to Quit Smoking is not by any means a difficult problem to solve and at the worst my therapy may not help you and you and perhaps my other critics will then have the pleasure of stating that Joepathy did not work this time.

Glad you understand the unnecessary trauma that I am subjected to on almost a daily basis from these so called classical homeopaths who only wish to display their 'classical knowledge' and try to impress the suffering patient perhaps with a view to ensure that their fee is guaranteed when the patient returns for that next consultation in real life.

I do appreciate that these same classical types are in it for the money which I am not, but it is when they stoop to criticize me and quote their classical nonsense that even I, the patient man that I am at my advanced age of 83 years, am unnecessarily roused. Their 'classical' knowledge does not impress me in the least as I have invariably healed the patient who has given up on them in disgust.

The least that I can expect of them is to observe the response of the patient before they insist on irritating me again. This same scenario is often repeated, although not in recent months, within a period of 10 minutes of my posting my advice to a suffering patient and I have had occasion to complain to the moderator/owner of this ABC forum and he has sometimes deleted their offensive posts.

Such is the price I have to pay for healing with my Joepathy.

I am glad to note that you will go ahead with my Joepathy irrespective of the opposition. You should hopefully notice within 48 hours of your starting on the Arnica therapy that you will lose the urge for that next smoke and when this vicious circle is severed, the rest will all be smooth sailing.

Here is wishing you the best of luck to turn a new page in your life.

Joe is not a homoeopath and he does not practice homoeopathy. That is not intended as a criticism that is simply a statement of fact. The world is full of people that are not homoeopaths, and some of them are even good healers. I have no desire to get involved in one of his arguments about it. But homoeopathy only works through the Law of Similars which Joe does not use. While I will not rise to whatever insults or personal attacks Joe might be engaging in yet again, I will reiterate that his approach is in no way homoeopathic, and his use of one of our medicines breaks every one of our guidelines. Whatever might happen next in following his advice I could not predict.

You have every right to choose whatever kind of treatment you like. As a professional homoeopath I simply wish to make sure you know the difference between the 'joepathy' and actual homoeopathy. If his therapy fails you it should not reflect on us in any way, since the two approaches are nothing alike.

I am a practitioner of both classical and modern homoeopathy. I have also taught both types of homoeopathy (which are really the same not different) for many years to students of homoepathy. Modern homoeopathy still obeys the underlying principles of Classical homoeopathy. 'Joepathy' is closer to Allopathy than to homoeopathy, and Joe acknowledges this so as long as you understand that, there is no harm.

Modern homoeopathy does not mean you can do anything you like. There are still basic laws, basic rules, and if you break them you have stepped outside the realm of homoeopathy into other therapeutic approaches. I recently suffered a terrible illness which a chinese medical practitioner helped me with where the homoeopath had trouble, and so I am quite willing to accept that other styles of medicine are effective.

However, I am hardly going to go around telling people my chinese medical practitioner used homoeopathy on me lol.

That being said, I wish you well, and as I stated before, I am happy to help out should this approach not give you the results you hope for. If this works for you then great - everyone is happy :)
[message edited by brisbanehomoeopath on Tue, 27 Mar 2012 23:00:16 BST]

Hi Lyco, the rules of the forum are:

Express any opinion you wish here and
you do not have to limit your questions
or answers to homeopathy- if you feel
things are best solved by hon homeopathic
methods feel free to say so.( see the forum rules, rule #1.)

so this is an open forum and there is
an understanding that any opinion
or method is allowed.

I like this analogy.

I agree, that many people come here looking for something specific. Anyone not selling organic should be clear and honest about it. If the buyers do not understand that then those that do can teach them. Then they have freedom to make a genuine choice. At times that may require people to be educated as to what 'organic' actually means. Look at supermarket shelves - how often do you see the word 'organic' used? Do you think those products are actually organic in any way?

Organic has become a marketing strategy now. Just as homoeopathy has. The analogy is very apt. People love to piggy-back on the reputation of homoeopathy to sell their own products or ideas.

If I went looking for organic food, because I had heard stories or read literature about how it would improve my health, but then I bought something that was labelled as organic but in reality was not, I would be upset about that. If I did not know what organic was, I would want to know, so I could make an informed decision.

[message deleted by simone717 on Sat, 07 Apr 2012 00:35:37 BST]

No I don't think so. This forum is a portal many people use to get exposed to homoeopathy. This is a forum for homoeopathy but obviously people can talk about anything they like to do with health. Unfortunately they get exposed to a lot of things that are not homoeopathy (but are labelled incorrectly). Someone needs to be here to let them know that, and this is one of the main reasons I spend so much time here, and spend so much of my time educating people. I am hardly going to leave people at the mercy of the psuedohomoeopaths just because it creates conflict with them. I am certainly not afraid of it - someone has to stand up to them sometimes.

I do not force people to do things my way. I just remain vocal about the differences between homoeopathy as it was meant to be practiced and all the variants. As long as people are making an informed choice I am happy enough. I am not advocating anyone be silenced, I am a great supporter of free speech (as long as it is respectful).

Homoeopathy is not a job to me it is a choice I made in my life as to how to live, and it is one that I believe in wholeheartedly. I have shared homoeopathy with uncountable numbers of patients over the years to their benefit and will keep doing so. When you believe in something you defend it, and that is what I do.

My beef is not with Simon at all, who has made his views clear to me several times in the past. It is not his job, nor does he feel qualified to judge the veracity of claims made here. I on the other hand am fully qualified to do so, and in fact, at least in my country, I am registered as a professional who can indeed give this kind of advice to people. Nobody has to take that advice, but I feel it is ethically sound when I give it (as it needs to be since even what I write on a forum like this could feasibly affect my professional membership if it is seen to put the profession in disrepute).

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Simone

Good to note that you have joined the fray to put some sense into the mind of David who so very obviously resents my helping anyone here on the ABC with my Joepathy. You may remember that it was not me that coined this term Joepathy. This was done by Gavini Murthy in 2005 when he was active on the ABC but I have not seen him here for about a year and his parting words addressed to me were:

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/231958/

'You must have observed that I am not the die hard classical homeopath any more.

I now appreciate that homeopathic medicines are capable of curing even when used in the non classical way. '

I thought this statement was very generous of him especially since they were made by him after a furious argument similar to the ongoing foray with David .

Shortly after Gavini retired from the ABC and the Homeopathy & More where he was also attacking me no end I got moderator powers on the latter forum and decided that enough was enough and ended his career by just deleting his posts where he attacked me in the same manner that David is doing here on the ABC.

I note that he refers to Simon who owns this ABC and you my be aware that David was cautioned many times to stop his insatiable attitude when he just jumps in, at one time into every post that I made here, and continues to show off his superior attitude to Homeopathy which he now feels is his own private preserve. If you read some of his posts you will see how he establishes his copyright on this science which has been subjected to so much unfortunate mauling by the classical sect that it can hardly be recognized to be the healing art that it truly is when used in the correct hands.

As I see it, the problem David has is his insistence that all therapy can only flow after the yardstick of the 'Simila similibus Curantur' rule is observed. I have openly stated here on the ABC and on my own website that I was sadly disillusioned in following this rule which I was compelled to drop when cases that I prescribed using the classical therapy, did not resolve successfully.

You may like to know that I used this rule over 10 years ago and I later purchased Radar 9 software which fortunately for me my computer today which is a MacBook Pro, can handle through Parallels Desktop which enables me to use the PC platform on which Radar will only work on the Mac OS X 10.7 aka Lion. I do still use Radar but not as often as I did when I first got it as it prescribes results which to me do not have any bearing on the case I am trying to solve. There is a wealth of Homeopathic books on Radar that justified the investment of over $1500, worth while.

I was amazed at how my 2 default remedies Arnica and Nat Phos jointly have helped to resolve difficult cases which defied the therapy that classical homeopaths were trying to solve not only here on the ABC but in real life. Robert Ray's case which I highlighted in a previous post is one which I resolved at a level that perhaps no other physician has even succeeded in doing. If you have not read it please do so ASAP on my website.

All I seek to do is to be left in peace to help anyone in distress who posts here on the ABC or on my own website as I am convinced that the reason my Creator has maintained me up to today in my present state of wellness at my advanced age of 83, is to help suffering humanity in the best way I can with my Joepathy. I have proved that my therapy has helped and hopefully will continue to help suffering humanity as quickly as is possible, and the reason why I established my own Website www.joedelivera.com is to ensure that the records of my therapy will outlive me. As you perhaps are aware, I do not levy a fee for my services and in Sri Lanka where I live and continue to give my patients their remedies in bottles of spring water free of all charge. I believe that the thanks and blessings that they all leave behind with me also contribute to my state of wellness at my age which incidentally, they just refuse to believe as they invariably underestimate it by 20 years.

I do not have to spell out the rationale for my using my direct 'This for That' therapy as I have
done so on this thread in my post above and elsewhere. It is just that I do resent the intrusion of anyone who likes to strike that supercilious attitude over others simply because he is qualified and prefers to show off his knowledge of this science which he considers is his own private preserve. This is what gets me and my defense of my therapy which I formulated over 10 years ago and now accepted worldwide as 'Joepathy', is a tribute to the fact that the world of healing has accepted that there is indeed something special in my therapy especially since it flows from the mind of one who is of a very advanced age and is yet able to rebut the inanities of a few classical types by meeting their arguments very effectively.

I have always challenged David to put his money where his mouth is and prove that his therapy is more successful than my Joepathy but up to now he has not done so. I believe that he cannot do so as the rate of his success in resolving a case is very low in comparison to my own.

It is my hope that he will open his eyes to the fact that I am not alone any more in my use of the 'This for That' therapy which he considers is allopathic. My aim is to CURE and not to BLUFF the suffering patient who seeks to be rid of his/her ailment. I was heartened to note that the Drs Banerji in their own domain of their Homeopathic Foundation in Kolkata who are qualified in this science of Homeopathy also use the same direct protocol as I do with my Joepathy. I am aware that the majority of qualified homeopaths also use this same direct therapy but dare not state so for fear that they will lose their license. In my case I do not stand to lose anything as I am not in Homeopathy to make money. I am in it to HEAL.

It is my considered belief that what is lacking today in the classical homeopathic world is HUMILITY to accept the obvious when their classical approach has failed miserably.

Joe

No you see you don't know the history of this site. If you go back and look at very old posts, you will see that once many homoeopaths posted here from all over the world. The reason they left is the same reason I often find it difficult here and get into so much conflict - the pseudohomoeopaths. Also, you need to realise that many professional homoeopaths will not engage in these kind of forum prescriptions as they believe they do not enhance the reputation of homoeopathy. They also have real practices, real students to teach, and the constant prodding from people who were both anonymous and not even trained homoeopaths drove many of them away. I actually came on to this forum many years ago saying forum prescriptions like this could not be very sucessful, but when I saw what was being done to unsuspecting people in the name of homoeopathy, I chose to get involved rather than just leave. And so I am still here doing just that.

I suspect that had there not been a concerted effort to drive all the trained homoeopaths out this forum would still be a hotbed of intellectual debate about homoeopathy. Now it is what it is, a free-for-all clinic where anyone can set themselves up as a doctor without even giving their real name and can make any promise they like without backing it up.
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[message deleted by simone717 on Sat, 07 Apr 2012 00:28:55 BST]

Yes they were indeed giving out their real names. Many homoeopaths here identified themselves truthfully. Just as I do (well I give more information than just my real name).

I suppose they could have been pretending to be someone else, that is always a danger on the internet.

On other sites there have been instances where people fabricated their entire lives and careers. I remember one 'homoeopath' who it turned out had never seen a real live patient, who lived in his mother's basement and had no job or income. He had made quite a name for himself, all completely false. It turned out he was also secretly having people send him money for his advice, which got him banned - well many things got him banned. He was an obnoxious person who spent alot of time attacking any other homoeopath on the site, presumably because he felt threatened by them. People believed him though, right up until he didn't cure them. There seemed to be no end to the stream of people wanting to believe in him.

The internet IS the new wild west. Exactly that.