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DaisyFrank on 2012-08-31
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
There is a rubric in Complete Repertory for blue sclera.
Eyes; blueness: acon(2) apis ars aur bad bell bov calc(2) carbn-o carc(2) cocc(2) colch(2) coloc con cupr dig dros euphr ferr-i ham hep ign kali-c med morph naja op phyt plb sars sil(2) spig stram sulph(2) tub verat zinc
So there are remedies for blue sclera. The remedy where other symptoms agree should work best.
Eyes; blueness: acon(2) apis ars aur bad bell bov calc(2) carbn-o carc(2) cocc(2) colch(2) coloc con cupr dig dros euphr ferr-i ham hep ign kali-c med morph naja op phyt plb sars sil(2) spig stram sulph(2) tub verat zinc
So there are remedies for blue sclera. The remedy where other symptoms agree should work best.
♡ kadwa last decade
Thank you very much Kadwa, I appreciate your time and thoughtfulness. Just out of curiosity, are there certain conditions or constitutional types that this symptom indicates? I am VERY new to homeopathy so I get a bit turned around, please forgive me if the remedies you suggested are also the answer to this question. Being ingrained with allopathic medicinal approach, I sometimes either do not frame the question correctly or can't understand the answer given as the answer I asked for!lol:)
DaisyFrank last decade
Oh and as I reread your answer I sort of see that you did indicate constitutional type, thank you. In homeopathy, does it matter what disease/condition is causing the symptom? Say Ehlers-Danlos is the condition that is expressing the symptom of blue sclera, does homeopathy put emphasis/energy toward the condition or only the one symptom, in this case blue sclera?
And is there a free version of Complete Repertory online?
And is there a free version of Complete Repertory online?
DaisyFrank last decade
abc remedies shop- click on any remedy
and the repertory of Boericke is being used.
You can also use Remedy Finder tool.
However , unless this is some acute , mild
condition, there is a lot to know about how
you match symptoms, what symptoms count more,
and then what potency of a remedy to use and
how long , etc etc etc.
Don't try to prescribe this yourself. Put the case on
here-with details, read some posts of ongoing
cases - and get a prescription and be supervised.
Or else go to a homeopath face to face - more
diagnostic tools of the homeopath can be used
being seen face to face. You are thinking something is much
simpler than what it really is. Homeopathy prescribes on
matching the physical and mental symptoms, not conditions.
and the repertory of Boericke is being used.
You can also use Remedy Finder tool.
However , unless this is some acute , mild
condition, there is a lot to know about how
you match symptoms, what symptoms count more,
and then what potency of a remedy to use and
how long , etc etc etc.
Don't try to prescribe this yourself. Put the case on
here-with details, read some posts of ongoing
cases - and get a prescription and be supervised.
Or else go to a homeopath face to face - more
diagnostic tools of the homeopath can be used
being seen face to face. You are thinking something is much
simpler than what it really is. Homeopathy prescribes on
matching the physical and mental symptoms, not conditions.
♡ simone717 last decade
Thank you Simone717.
No I would not treat myself because I am VERY new to homeopathy. I am more just tinkering with information here. Trying to get a feel for how it works, so it's helpful to get different responses to the various random questions I dream up and post.
However, I do have a set of very real symptoms that I will probably pitch out to the group to see the different ideas and approaches on how to treat.... Eventually:)
Thank you all very much.
No I would not treat myself because I am VERY new to homeopathy. I am more just tinkering with information here. Trying to get a feel for how it works, so it's helpful to get different responses to the various random questions I dream up and post.
However, I do have a set of very real symptoms that I will probably pitch out to the group to see the different ideas and approaches on how to treat.... Eventually:)
Thank you all very much.
DaisyFrank last decade
I do have a question for you Simone. How do you determine which symptoms count more? Is there a system or reference for determining this?
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DaisyFrank last decade
Daisy,
one thing homeopaths always look for is the very 'unusual'
symptom to decide on a remedy, when they have several
that seem to match. so 'odd' things that only show up in
one particular remedy are very important. I was reading one case
of a head homeopathic teacher who said patients with very
in the middle everything were the hardest ones she had to find
correct remedies for.
Daisy, you are really asking for a homeopathy course information-
go to Minimum books.com and click on Judith Reichtenberg Ullman-
she has some good basic books and also a lot on her site. You
can also see on Minimum books that authors have forums and
can see how complex all of this is.Another person is Robin Murphy-
well known homeopathic teacher and he has many books and
courses on homeopathy-He does a more layered approach to treat
what is coming into his office and get it resolved and go from there-
which I agree with. Hpathy.com has a beginner course online for
free.
You are going to have to study some of this bc there are entire
books on the questions you are asking!!
Best, Simone
one thing homeopaths always look for is the very 'unusual'
symptom to decide on a remedy, when they have several
that seem to match. so 'odd' things that only show up in
one particular remedy are very important. I was reading one case
of a head homeopathic teacher who said patients with very
in the middle everything were the hardest ones she had to find
correct remedies for.
Daisy, you are really asking for a homeopathy course information-
go to Minimum books.com and click on Judith Reichtenberg Ullman-
she has some good basic books and also a lot on her site. You
can also see on Minimum books that authors have forums and
can see how complex all of this is.Another person is Robin Murphy-
well known homeopathic teacher and he has many books and
courses on homeopathy-He does a more layered approach to treat
what is coming into his office and get it resolved and go from there-
which I agree with. Hpathy.com has a beginner course online for
free.
You are going to have to study some of this bc there are entire
books on the questions you are asking!!
Best, Simone
♡ simone717 last decade
It is not so that a pathological symptom or condition is ignored in homeopathy. But the remedy is worked out for totality where pathological symptoms are just a part.
♡ kadwa last decade
Kadwa,
Thank you for the qualification. I think I understand the concept but it is a struggle to maintain whilst going through each symptom and how they affect me at any given time. To add further difficulty to my case, I think my type/personality is one that shifts or cycles and is not in the same form which I was born. I think I am a Carcinosin with Sulph being almost as prominent and those two have suffered from Tub( history of maternal exposure) and Med( chronic pelvic and tonsil issues) and I think my father fits the Med/Sulph profile.
So my question in all this is, can type morph AND can one person be almost equally more than one type? If so, how do you treat?
Thank you for the qualification. I think I understand the concept but it is a struggle to maintain whilst going through each symptom and how they affect me at any given time. To add further difficulty to my case, I think my type/personality is one that shifts or cycles and is not in the same form which I was born. I think I am a Carcinosin with Sulph being almost as prominent and those two have suffered from Tub( history of maternal exposure) and Med( chronic pelvic and tonsil issues) and I think my father fits the Med/Sulph profile.
So my question in all this is, can type morph AND can one person be almost equally more than one type? If so, how do you treat?
DaisyFrank last decade
Kadwa is not treating according to 'type' neither is anyone else
on here.
Remedies are based on present time mental and physical symptoms-
Thinking you are a this or that is like saying you are an
astrological sign. You may have symptoms of those remedies
you stated and take them and then your state will change.
If you are still not well, the case is still looked at with
what mental and physical symptoms are showing up after
these medicines cure or take off a layer and something else
shows up.
If you look at interviews ( free) of Dr. Andre Saine-on minimum books-famous homeopath, takes very hard cases, he goes by
-asking what disease do we have to treat first? what is most
urgent here, he takes care of that and then moves on to next
problem, and each set/layer does NOT have the same remedies.
You are not to identify with the remedies/medicines- the base
of homeopathy is like cures like. Disease is not you, but
something blocking your own vital force. Choosing the medicine
is to find the match with the blockage so vital force can run
as it should.Even the Sankaran approach which tries to find
one remedy that will work deepest levels, calls the disease
'the other song' it is a foreign energy and the remedy must
match the 'other song' in you that is not supposed to be
there - so that YOU can be there with no blockages.
[message edited by simone717 on Sat, 01 Sep 2012 17:00:54 BST]
on here.
Remedies are based on present time mental and physical symptoms-
Thinking you are a this or that is like saying you are an
astrological sign. You may have symptoms of those remedies
you stated and take them and then your state will change.
If you are still not well, the case is still looked at with
what mental and physical symptoms are showing up after
these medicines cure or take off a layer and something else
shows up.
If you look at interviews ( free) of Dr. Andre Saine-on minimum books-famous homeopath, takes very hard cases, he goes by
-asking what disease do we have to treat first? what is most
urgent here, he takes care of that and then moves on to next
problem, and each set/layer does NOT have the same remedies.
You are not to identify with the remedies/medicines- the base
of homeopathy is like cures like. Disease is not you, but
something blocking your own vital force. Choosing the medicine
is to find the match with the blockage so vital force can run
as it should.Even the Sankaran approach which tries to find
one remedy that will work deepest levels, calls the disease
'the other song' it is a foreign energy and the remedy must
match the 'other song' in you that is not supposed to be
there - so that YOU can be there with no blockages.
[message edited by simone717 on Sat, 01 Sep 2012 17:00:54 BST]
♡ simone717 last decade
Thank you very much Simone for all the detail that you have shared. I am going to use some of my holiday time to study the items/people on the site you referenced in these prior posts.
I think I'm using the terminology incorrectly or not explaining myself fully when I refer to my type and treatment with remedies. Let me explain, at home I have listed all my symptoms in order of most urgent to the least, I come up with a very odd(to me as I don't have ANY experience w homeopathy) picture.
The most debilitating symptom is depression/anxiety(for which has been an issue for 20yrs and I halfway think the anxiety has caused the depression but I can't be certain due to the nature of anxiety/depression). I have recently been exposed to a few poisons through vaccine and anti-parasitic chemicals. I had Rabies vac in March, and treated for Scabies with Permethrin for four applications, and I have a form of antibiotic resistant Folliculitis(staph). And most recently, a positive exposure to Bartonella(species unknown). The doctor thinks that my susceptiblity to the scabies and Folliculitis is because of the attack on my immune system by the bartonella.
As i continue to move down the list and try to compare/match the symptoms to the remedies, I run into an odd pattern. Each symptom will match almost perfectly with say Sulph or Tub or Nat Mur but will be completely blown out because it doesn't match with one or two of the ameliorations or aggravations of the particular remedy. And often it's a situation of 'sometimes or depends on who/situation' or it is the POLAR opposite affect. So when I looked through the picture of Carsinocin, it addressed all of those situations. And upon further inspection of Carsinocin type, I saw that it was a match for my experiences of fear, addiction, early responsibility, abuse, and emotional/mental family history.
So, because I believe that most of my physical health complaints have occurred because of my strained mental health I am perplexed as to how a homeopath would handle my issues. If I were a homeopath, I think I would start with detox(I drink about a case of diet soda per day and eat about 3.5 lbs of chocolate per week), then or maybe simultaneously provide a nosode for the bartonella, then Im stumped. Do I give the constitutional remedy of Carcinosin or do I address the symptoms that match the syphlitic picture? Or the syphilitic picture then the Carcinosin even though, I bierce the Carcinosin can help the symptom that causes me the most problems, anxiety/depression?
Of course, we are asking these questions based on an assumption that all of these symptoms and remedies have been gone through in totality by a professional homeopath and are correct. The question is one about order of operation and homeopathic style/approach.
Anyone have thoughts?
I think I'm using the terminology incorrectly or not explaining myself fully when I refer to my type and treatment with remedies. Let me explain, at home I have listed all my symptoms in order of most urgent to the least, I come up with a very odd(to me as I don't have ANY experience w homeopathy) picture.
The most debilitating symptom is depression/anxiety(for which has been an issue for 20yrs and I halfway think the anxiety has caused the depression but I can't be certain due to the nature of anxiety/depression). I have recently been exposed to a few poisons through vaccine and anti-parasitic chemicals. I had Rabies vac in March, and treated for Scabies with Permethrin for four applications, and I have a form of antibiotic resistant Folliculitis(staph). And most recently, a positive exposure to Bartonella(species unknown). The doctor thinks that my susceptiblity to the scabies and Folliculitis is because of the attack on my immune system by the bartonella.
As i continue to move down the list and try to compare/match the symptoms to the remedies, I run into an odd pattern. Each symptom will match almost perfectly with say Sulph or Tub or Nat Mur but will be completely blown out because it doesn't match with one or two of the ameliorations or aggravations of the particular remedy. And often it's a situation of 'sometimes or depends on who/situation' or it is the POLAR opposite affect. So when I looked through the picture of Carsinocin, it addressed all of those situations. And upon further inspection of Carsinocin type, I saw that it was a match for my experiences of fear, addiction, early responsibility, abuse, and emotional/mental family history.
So, because I believe that most of my physical health complaints have occurred because of my strained mental health I am perplexed as to how a homeopath would handle my issues. If I were a homeopath, I think I would start with detox(I drink about a case of diet soda per day and eat about 3.5 lbs of chocolate per week), then or maybe simultaneously provide a nosode for the bartonella, then Im stumped. Do I give the constitutional remedy of Carcinosin or do I address the symptoms that match the syphlitic picture? Or the syphilitic picture then the Carcinosin even though, I bierce the Carcinosin can help the symptom that causes me the most problems, anxiety/depression?
Of course, we are asking these questions based on an assumption that all of these symptoms and remedies have been gone through in totality by a professional homeopath and are correct. The question is one about order of operation and homeopathic style/approach.
Anyone have thoughts?
DaisyFrank last decade
Hi Daisy,
You have a complicated case. If I were you I would
get a homeopath who works in layers and then let
homeopath explain in general how it is going to be
approached. Then you have to relax and trust the
process, bc once you get into the process you will
not be educated enough or neutral enough to assess
what remedies are doing, and you have to be patient.
Also, you do not have to match 'everything' in a remedy,
just have enough matches to know it will do the job.
And remedy symptoms even tho listed one way, also
must be remembered they have the opposite state.
As in ignatia being given to tough guys that say nothing
bothers them.
Your main job is to find a homeopath you trust and
then go for it. Like Dr. Saab says on here, when he
is sick he has his friend treat him and tells him not
to even tell him what remedies are being used bc
his mind will then be going over things, as your mind
is doing now.No human can really be neutral on their own self observation-- so just research who you want to be treating
you is a better use of your time spent
-as it would also take years of study and interaction with
patients to reach the level of expertise that is needed
for your case.There is no substitute for real experience.
[message edited by simone717 on Sun, 02 Sep 2012 19:25:57 BST]
You have a complicated case. If I were you I would
get a homeopath who works in layers and then let
homeopath explain in general how it is going to be
approached. Then you have to relax and trust the
process, bc once you get into the process you will
not be educated enough or neutral enough to assess
what remedies are doing, and you have to be patient.
Also, you do not have to match 'everything' in a remedy,
just have enough matches to know it will do the job.
And remedy symptoms even tho listed one way, also
must be remembered they have the opposite state.
As in ignatia being given to tough guys that say nothing
bothers them.
Your main job is to find a homeopath you trust and
then go for it. Like Dr. Saab says on here, when he
is sick he has his friend treat him and tells him not
to even tell him what remedies are being used bc
his mind will then be going over things, as your mind
is doing now.No human can really be neutral on their own self observation-- so just research who you want to be treating
you is a better use of your time spent
-as it would also take years of study and interaction with
patients to reach the level of expertise that is needed
for your case.There is no substitute for real experience.
[message edited by simone717 on Sun, 02 Sep 2012 19:25:57 BST]
♡ simone717 last decade
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