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Female 29 ,Recurrent Tongue Sores

Reccurent Tongue ulcers on both sides of the tongue
They start with a small blister and grows big day by day before healing.but a new one comes up by htat time
Normally takes 15 -20 days to heal.Doesn,t pain much unless spicy food is eaten.
Tongue has all the sense an feel on the area ,but is sensitive.

Initially saw the symptoms came up after having cantalope (Melon),it was itching in the tongue
and realized ,has 3-4 spots on the tongue like a geographical tongue , symptoms went away after 2 weeks
Came back again after 2 weeks ,this time on the sides, went to the doctor Diagnosed with Strep throat,gave amoxcilin -clav ,
Tongue got clear ,but another ulcer appeared on the left side ,this time more agrresive, by the time course finshed ,it was a 1/2' sore on the tongue. Went to doctor
looked more like oral thrush and gave Flucanzole , but symbtoms did not got clear.
Went to another doctor , diagoned like a Viral infection gave anti viral but still not much improvement form the existnig ulcers.


- Height 5'1 , weighing 60kg
- Some time very exhauted and face looks pale and drained.
- When energy is low get irritated very easily
- Lots of mood swings
- when irritated , most of the time headaches occours with throbbing temples.
- When gets exhausted , body starts to ache.
- Some swelling on face near eyes and hands in the morning or when overexerted.
- Complains of sluggish elimination
- Otherwise very lively person , want company and some one to talk to
- Very hygenic ,but sometime feels lonely.

Sores are Pinkinsh red with slight white border, they are only on tongue and no where else in the mouth.
Got worried as doctor said might do a biopsy if the sores dont go away.
 
  jasingh on 2012-09-14
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Please give her three doses of Arsenicum Album 200 as follows and see how that affects in next 7 days (only 3 doses in 7 days).

day 1 morning
1st dose

day 1 evening
2nd dose

day 2 morning
3rd dose

One dose means
If the medicine is in pills form 2 pills. Don't touch pills with hand. Use cap of bottle to take pills.
If the medicine is in liquid dilution form, 2 drops in some 20 ml water. Sip up slowly.

Please follow homeo restrictions like no coffee, no raw onion/garlic, no strong perfumes, don't eat or drink anything within 30 minutes before or after taking medicine.
 
kadwa last decade
Thanks Dr Kadwa for the prompt response, will take all the precautions and will let you know.

Thanks.
 
jasingh last decade
After taking the third dose , in the evening she is feeling little sensation on both the sores, they appear to have grown a little big and little darker in color on the edges. Dr Kadwa please advise..
 
jag197912 last decade
Wait and watch now.
 
kadwa last decade
Ok, Seems like it is working , border on one side is fading away , a little whitish in appearance now..will keep a close watch and keep you updated.
Thanks
 
jasingh last decade
Not much improvement since yesterday, sore has grown a little bigger and wider...will keep a watch on it for another few days.
 
jasingh last decade
Dr Kadwa been the sixth day , Seems like the sore has spread a little more...should i give her 1 more dose of the same or should i watch...Please advise..
 
jag197912 last decade
Please give her a single dose of Kali Iod 200 and see how that affects in next few days.
 
kadwa last decade
After giving her the single dose Kali Iod 200c, a new sore erupted on the existing healing sore, also now she complains of more saliva in mouth. Please advise
 
jasingh last decade
Please copy the Questionnaire from the following thread
http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/188925/
and post all the questions here duly answered. On that basis your remedy may be worked out.
 
kadwa last decade
Dr kadwa , attached here is the response


Patient ID: 358187
Sex: F
Age: 29


Please answer the following questions in a descriptive manner after careful analysis and recollection of previous experiences and happenings.

1. Describe your main suffering?
Reccurent Tongue ulcers on both sides of the tongue
They start with a small blister and grows big day by day before healing.but a new one comes up by htat time
Normally takes 15 -20 days to heal.Doesn,t pain much unless spicy food is eaten.
Tongue has all the sense an feel on the area ,but is sensitive.

Initially saw the symptoms came up after having cantalope (Melon),it was itching in the tongue
and realized ,has 3-4 spots on the tongue like a geographical tongue , symptoms went away after 2 weeks
Came back again after 2 weeks ,this time on the sides, went to the doctor Diagnosed with Strep throat,gave amoxcilin -clav ,
Tongue got clear ,but another ulcer appeared on the left side ,this time more agrresive, by the time course finshed ,it was a 1/2' sore on the tongue. Went to doctor
looked more like oral thrush and gave Flucanzole , but symbtoms did not got clear.
Went to another doctor , diagoned like a Viral infection gave anti viral but still not much improvement form the existnig ulcers.

- Some time very exhauted and face looks pale and drained.
- When energy is low get irritated very easily
- Lots of mood swings
- when irritated , most of the time headaches occours with throbbing temples.
- When gets exhausted , body starts to ache.
- Some swelling on face near eyes and hands in the morning or when overexerted.
- Complains of sluggish elimination
- Otherwise very lively person , want company and some one to talk to
- Very hygenic ,but sometime feels lonely.

Sores are Pinkinsh red with slight white border, they are only on tongue and no where else in the mouth.
They come again on the same area some time over the existing sore.



2. What other physical sufferings do you have in your body?

Headache when exhausted,stressed or during anger , mainly throbbing temples and forehead. Edema (Puffing near eyes and hands ,usually in the mornings.
Backache lower back , during exertion also themain point which is effected is the point where epidural was given during a C-section in Jul 2010.

3. What mental sufferings / feelings do you have associated with your physical sufferings?
Anxiety,Keeps on checking the tongue frequently , gets irritated easily, misses her family ,gets moody and sometimes offended and angry.
When angry the anger comes in burst and with high pitch tone. She remebers all the bad happened to her and gets reminded of the same.
She is very particular of the timings and even if she sleeps more than the routine nap ,shegets upset as it affects her rest of the schedule.

4. What exactly do you feel when you are at your worst?

when at worst patient want to be left alone , want to be aloof , mind full of anger ,but dont want to talk

5. When did it all start? Can you connect it to any past event or disease?

Cant recall any major event , only things happened are , we moved to US 3 years back ,so she misses her family and gets depressed easily. Had a miscarriage in 2009 here in US.

6. Which time of the day you are worst?
Sores on the tongue any time , Headache if comes in the morning it stays all day , Edema/Swelling mostly in the morning. Feeling lonely depreesed mostly in the evening.

7. What are the things which aggravate your suffering and which are those which ameliorate the same?
Stress,when thing dont work her way , Fatigue due to 2 yr daughter which keeps her busy .When it is not mentally relaxed is the time it gets aggravated.
Rest /Sleep does help her. Music soothes her mental state or some timeconnecting back to family


8. Do your think your sufferings have relation to any external stimuli (like, change of place) or any internal biological changes in the body, like, menses (in females)?
She is very attached to her family ,we moved here in US and have no relatives or friends here so feels lonely here

9. When do you feel better, during hot weather or cold weather, humid or dry weather?
Start of the Winters , when thetemperature is moderate and not that chilly.


10. Describe your general mental set up? Are you Moody, Arrogant, Mild, Agreeable Changeable, Nervous, Suspicious, Easily offended, Quiet, Arguing, Irritating, Lazy etc.
Moody,Easily offended,Agreeable changeable

- How do you feel before or during a thunderstorm?
She is scared by thunderstorm , doesnt want to stay out and or let me or our daughter to be out as well.

- Do you like being consoled during your tough times?
Yes
- Are you sensitive to external stimuli like smell, noise, light etc?
Yes strong smell manytime gives her headache. Also strong light irritates her

- Do you have any typical habit or gesture like nail biting, causeless
weeping, talking to one self etc?
Nail bite very rare , but some time she talks in her sleep.

- How do you feel about your friends, family, your children and especially your husband / wife?
Very attached to the family , very caring and loving for her daughter and possesive as well. Loves her Husband a lot.

11. What are your fears and do you dream of any situation repeatedly?
Fear from deep waters , and high heights makes her dizzy. No particular dreams , but sometimes dreams scares her.

12. What do you crave for in food items and what are your aversions?
She loves Spicy food, Aversion to Cheese ,mushrooms and Fish

13. How is your thirst: Less, Normal or Excessive?
Normal

14. How if your hunger: Less, Normal or Excessive?
Normal

15. Is there any kind of food which your body can’t stand?
Cheese makes her feel very heavy, prviously eggs used to cAUSE acidity ,but they seems to be fine now.

16. Is your sweat normal or less or more? Where does it sweat more: Head, Trunk or Limbs?
Sweats more near Neck , head and Under arms

17. How is your bowel movement and stool type?
Sluggish and sometimes contipated and not soft stool

18. How well do you sleep? Do you have a particular posture of sleeping?

Sleep is sound , but many times she talks in her sleep , she mostly sleeps on her sides

19. Do you think you are able to satisfy your sexual desires in general?
Yes

20. How do you think you are different from others, if at all?
She feels she is more caring than others , intelligent and beautiful and Active


21. What medications have been taken earlier by you to treat the diseases and do you have any particular symptom surfacing after the medication?
Alloapthic - Amox -clav , Flucanzole , Famvir (Did not help much).
Homepathy - Ars Alb 200 , Kal Iod 200 .
Sores erupt again mostly more on the left side of the tongue , They appear to come again from the same place where the existing sore was healing.

22. What major diseases are running in your family?
Father - HBP ,Mother - Sugar , now in control was on medication earlier .Also has sores on the tongue.


23. Describe, how do you look like? Describe your overall appearance
Fun loving , likes to go places , medium built , 5'1 weighing 60 kg , Overall appearance is pleasing.

24. (ONLY FOR FEMALES)

Please answer the following questions:
(Please give details of your past menstruation if you have attained menopause.)
- Are the periods early, regular or late in general? How long do they last?
Regular periods, stays 4 days
- Do you suffer from any kind of physical or mental discomfort before, during or after the periods?
First day backache is present , no much mental discomfort.
- Is the flow scanty, normal or excessive?
Normal
- Is the blood thick bright red or pale watery?
Red but not very thick
- Do you notice any clots in the flow?
Clots are present sometimes
 
jasingh last decade
Please give her Borax 30 in the morning and evening for 3 days and see how that affects in next few days.

If this doesn't help give her Pulsatilla 30 in the same way and see how that affects in next few days.

One dose means
If the medicine is in pills form 2 pills. Don't touch pills with hand. Use cap of bottle to take pills.
If the medicine is in liquid dilution form, 2 drops in some 20 ml water. Sip up slowly.

Please follow homeo restrictions like no coffee, no raw onion/garlic, no strong perfumes, don't eat or drink anything within 30 minutes before or after taking medicine.
 
kadwa last decade
Thanks Doctor , Will start with Borax tomorrow. Seems like there is relief with Kali Iod ...one of the sore is almost 85% cured. Other one also has become less red and can say an improvement of 30%
 
jasingh last decade
you might want to wait on the borax- bc the kali Iod was aggravating and is
now curing!!

so please ask Kadwa about waiting here on this bc you
do not want to interfere with what is working.
 
simone717 last decade
I second with you , Dr Kadwa please advise
 
jasingh last decade
Simone is always right!! You should wait and watch.
 
kadwa last decade
kadwa!! guess I am right in that no one is always
right-lol- happy to keep learning on this forum.
[message edited by simone717 on Mon, 24 Sep 2012 02:15:28 BST]
 
simone717 last decade
Dr Kadwa , seem like after a week the the side sores almost healed ,but a new patch has started to develop from root of the tongue. Looks like infection coming back.
Also went to the ENT specailist and he ruled out Biopsy , seems like a Viral ulcer.
I gave her a Dose of Kali Iod 3-4 days back , also she completed Borax for 3 days.
As far I remember the first time when it happened was also like the same , it started from the root of the tongue and then spread later. It is like a patch at the root of the tongue and spreads and grow big.
Phsical symptoms right now are she is feeling weak and fatigued.
Please advise.
 
jasingh last decade
You should wait and watch. Remedies can't be given in quick succession without giving them sufficient time.

Please make a chart of date, remedy given and changes noticed after giving the remedy.
 
kadwa last decade
Ok will keep a note of it. Also need to know how safe it is to use these medicines , if she conceives during the course of treatment. We are planning for a second kid , just wanted to ensure these meds are safe in pregnancy
 
jasingh last decade
These are safe remedies. Won't affect fetus adversely.
 
kadwa last decade
Hi Dr Kadwa , A new Sore has come up on the right side of the tongue ,it is small one , Also the patch at the root never went away , it is still there , Please advise if I need to repeat the dose.

Last dose for Kali Iod was around 3 weeks back.
 
jasingh last decade
Please give her a single dose of arsenic alb 200 and wait for few days. If that doesn't help give her a dose of Kali Iod 200 and report back after few days.
 
kadwa last decade
Dr Kadwa , please advise , she is still suffering from tongue sores.the above medicine did not has much effect. We went in for a homeopath practitioner ,she prescribed staph 30 , then 200 then 1m . Had it for 3 months still not much improvement.
It comes in a cycle ,the patch changes it size become small then large and vice versa. Some time tongue goes almost clean but then after few days a new sore comes and the patch at the root of the tongue reappears.
I gave her 3-4 dowse or arsenic 200 and Kali iPod in last 3 - 4 weeks , but still not any improvement.
 
jasingh last decade
Hi- I have the book'tongue that does not Lie'
Since this began with a mapped tongue- here is what it says. I was looking
particularly at Merc-cy as that is mapped tongue with ulceration with and Merc-cy
has also the pale face.

Mapped: Agar,Alum,am-m,ant-c., ars bor, calc carb v, cham, colch croth, cupr, graph, hydr,kali bi, kali i, lac c, lcah litt lyc, manc, med merc merc mur-ac, nat m,nit ac,ox ac,phos, pht, ran s, rhus t, sul ac sulph, tab, TARAX, ter, thuj
amenorrhoea with- nat-m,
both sides denuded like islands, remaining parts thick coated, in diptheria Ran-s
clean centre Diph, rhan-c
cleans off in patches,leaving dark red tender sensitive spots, Tarax
cleans rapidly and in large flakes, first from middle or here and there, leaving tongue
smooth and glossy-Ter
diptheria in- Nat M
dotted- Phos
ulceration with- Merc-cy
gastric bilious attacks, Tarax
insular patches- large ones- kali bi red ones- Nat -m
nervous excitability with- Calad
viscid-Ph-ac-

If you want me to put in the list on ulcers- just ask.
 
simone717 last decade

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