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Vigil Coma-please help
I am writting you from Serbia. My father fell from the tree on 12th November 2012. He has several very bad injures. He broke several bones in his head,he had also bleedings inside,he broke 9 ribs,and also he broke several bones in his pelvis. He also had inside bleedings in his stomac. For 17 days he was in reanimation center where he was fighting for his life. So many complications,like pneumotorax. But he succeeded to stay alive. All that time he was in inducted coma. Afterthat when they turned off that sedatives,he opened his eyes,but unfortunately he stayed in vigil coma. Today it is the 25th day since the accident. His condition improved on all metters but he just won't to wake up. He open his eyes from time to time,he had some swallowings,he even move his arm and leg by reflex,but thats all. The doctors told us that he is now in vigil coma.I read about influence of Arnica for such a cases, so I wonder if you could help me, and give me some advices about that,and some directions.Also I forgot to mention that he is fed by tube.
Thank you in advance for your answer
Jovanka Smajic from Serbia
Jovanka Smajic on 2012-12-07
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I prescribed Arnica 1M in the Wet dose for this patient and he survived with a broken back and is confined to a wheel chair.
You can follow the same therapy and it is likely that your dad can regain consciousness but it will take some time.
You will give him Arnica 1M which you will make from the Liquid Dilution. You will give him a dose thrice daily and report progress from time to time.
The Wet dose of any Homeopathic remedy is made as follows:
Order the remedy in the Liquid pack in Alcohol, also referred to as Liquid Dilution in a bottle preferably with a dropper arrangement.
Get a 500ml bottle of Spring Water from the nearest supermarket.
Pour out about 3cm of water from the bottle to leave some airspace.
Insert 3 drops of the remedy into the bottle and shake the bottle hard at least 6 times before you sip a capfull of the bottle or a large teaspoonful which is the dose.
Shaking the bottle hard is homeopathic succussion and this enhances the effect of the remedy on the user.
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I prescribed Arnica 1M in the Wet dose for this patient and he survived with a broken back and is confined to a wheel chair.
You can follow the same therapy and it is likely that your dad can regain consciousness but it will take some time.
You will give him Arnica 1M which you will make from the Liquid Dilution. You will give him a dose thrice daily and report progress from time to time.
The Wet dose of any Homeopathic remedy is made as follows:
Order the remedy in the Liquid pack in Alcohol, also referred to as Liquid Dilution in a bottle preferably with a dropper arrangement.
Get a 500ml bottle of Spring Water from the nearest supermarket.
Pour out about 3cm of water from the bottle to leave some airspace.
Insert 3 drops of the remedy into the bottle and shake the bottle hard at least 6 times before you sip a capfull of the bottle or a large teaspoonful which is the dose.
Shaking the bottle hard is homeopathic succussion and this enhances the effect of the remedy on the user.
♡ Joe De Livera last decade
Dear Joe,
thank you very much for your answer. Tomorrow I will go to buy Arnika.I hope I can find it here in Serbia. I have one more question. As my father is being fed by tube,how do you recommend to give him this remedy? At the moment the tube goes from nose to his stomach,but from Wednesday they will put him a tube which will go directly to his stomach.
Best regards
Jovanka
thank you very much for your answer. Tomorrow I will go to buy Arnika.I hope I can find it here in Serbia. I have one more question. As my father is being fed by tube,how do you recommend to give him this remedy? At the moment the tube goes from nose to his stomach,but from Wednesday they will put him a tube which will go directly to his stomach.
Best regards
Jovanka
Jovanka Smajic last decade
I do not have any addresses of vendors of Homeopathic remedies in Serbia but you should be able to mail order remedies from any of the addresses below:
If you cannot get the Liquid Dilution in Ethanol you can buy the pellets which are the standard product on sale. This will enable you to give it to him immediately as this is essential. You will use 6 pellets in a 500ml bottle of spring water.
Ainsworths Homopathic Pharmacy
36 New Cavendish Street, London W1M 7LH
Tel 020 7935 5330
www.ainsworths.com
Freemans Homeopathic Pharmacy
18-20 Main Street, Busby, Glasgow G76 8DU
Tel 0845 225 5155
www.freemans.uk.com
Helios Homopathic Pharmacies
97 Camden Road, Tunbridge Wells, Kent TN1 2QP
Tel 01892 537254
www.helios.co.uk
Nelsons Pharmacies Ltd
73 Duke Street, Grosvenor Square, London W1M 6BY
Tel 020 7495 2404
www.nelsons.co.uk
Weleda UK Ltd
Heanor Road, Ilkeston, Derbyshire DE7 8DR
Tel. 0115 944 8200
www.weleda.co.uk
Answering your question about giving your father the remedies this is not difficult at all as you can just pour it into the syringe that you are using to feed him.
If you cannot get the Liquid Dilution in Ethanol you can buy the pellets which are the standard product on sale. This will enable you to give it to him immediately as this is essential. You will use 6 pellets in a 500ml bottle of spring water.
Ainsworths Homopathic Pharmacy
36 New Cavendish Street, London W1M 7LH
Tel 020 7935 5330
www.ainsworths.com
Freemans Homeopathic Pharmacy
18-20 Main Street, Busby, Glasgow G76 8DU
Tel 0845 225 5155
www.freemans.uk.com
Helios Homopathic Pharmacies
97 Camden Road, Tunbridge Wells, Kent TN1 2QP
Tel 01892 537254
www.helios.co.uk
Nelsons Pharmacies Ltd
73 Duke Street, Grosvenor Square, London W1M 6BY
Tel 020 7495 2404
www.nelsons.co.uk
Weleda UK Ltd
Heanor Road, Ilkeston, Derbyshire DE7 8DR
Tel. 0115 944 8200
www.weleda.co.uk
Answering your question about giving your father the remedies this is not difficult at all as you can just pour it into the syringe that you are using to feed him.
♡ Joe De Livera last decade
Dear Joe,
I did everything you told me. That means that I found Arnica 1M,there is a homeopathy pharmacy in Serbia. As I haven't had any way to give him this remedy through tube I gave him on his lips,drop by drop. My father started to feel better day by day,and today he woke up completely conscious.You cannot imagine my happiness.He doesn't know many things,like what he do in his life,what is his profession...etc, but he knows us and his friends.He can even talk (without voice because he has tracheostomy). What do you think,do I have to continue to give him this remedy?As he had 21 broken bone I suppose Arnica can help him also for faster recovery? Today they put him tube directly to the stomach so I can give him through tube.
Thank you,thank you million times.
Best regards
Jovanka
I did everything you told me. That means that I found Arnica 1M,there is a homeopathy pharmacy in Serbia. As I haven't had any way to give him this remedy through tube I gave him on his lips,drop by drop. My father started to feel better day by day,and today he woke up completely conscious.You cannot imagine my happiness.He doesn't know many things,like what he do in his life,what is his profession...etc, but he knows us and his friends.He can even talk (without voice because he has tracheostomy). What do you think,do I have to continue to give him this remedy?As he had 21 broken bone I suppose Arnica can help him also for faster recovery? Today they put him tube directly to the stomach so I can give him through tube.
Thank you,thank you million times.
Best regards
Jovanka
Jovanka Smajic last decade
selfhelp 1 last decade
Hi Jovanka
I am delighted to learn that Arnica 1M in the Wet dose has helped your dad and that in about 10 days after you started on my therapy, he regained consciousness.
It is this form of news that keeps me active at my advanced age of 84 years to help anyone in distress with my knowledge of Homeopathy which many have classified as 'Joepathy' as my therapy differs from the strict rules governing classical Homeopathy which all qualified homeopaths must follow if they wish to be licensed. In my case I have studied this Science about 40 years ago and am not qualified, but I believe that I have in my own way contributed to the advance of this Science of Homeopathy which has suffered from the strict adherence to the classical rules which have often contributed to the patient NOT being cured, as the classical homeopath must obey the rules even though he realises that my direct 'This for That' therapy which they derisively classified as 'Joepathy' is by far the more positive form of therapy which CURES the patient.
I too followed the classical rules but decided many years ago that my own therapy Joepathy, was an advance on the classical homeopathy in practice today which in many cases, does not seem to cure the patient in the same manner that my therapy does. I would like to add that Homeopathy is only a Hobby to me to which I am passionately dedicated and you are invited to visit my own website:
www.joedelivera.com
to read the many cases of many other Miracle Cures that I have been able to do with my patients who consult me and whom I treat completely free of charge.
I am grateful to you for recording your dad's response and his improvement and I have no doubt that this improvement will continue into the future.
You have inquired if you can continue with the Arnica 1M and the answer is YES. You can continue to give it to him twice daily.
You can also add the remedy below to help his bones to heal faster:
Symphytum Q aka Mother Tincture which you will give him in the following manner.
3 Drops in a teaspoonful of water taken thrice daily.
I noted that you refer to Crataetus Q in your post:
'ARNICA is gold like crataegus-Q'
I hope that you are NOT giving it to your dad as this is contraindicated.
Please continue to report his response as often as you can do so as his case is of great interest to me and all who may be following my therapy aka 'Joepathy'.
I am delighted to learn that Arnica 1M in the Wet dose has helped your dad and that in about 10 days after you started on my therapy, he regained consciousness.
It is this form of news that keeps me active at my advanced age of 84 years to help anyone in distress with my knowledge of Homeopathy which many have classified as 'Joepathy' as my therapy differs from the strict rules governing classical Homeopathy which all qualified homeopaths must follow if they wish to be licensed. In my case I have studied this Science about 40 years ago and am not qualified, but I believe that I have in my own way contributed to the advance of this Science of Homeopathy which has suffered from the strict adherence to the classical rules which have often contributed to the patient NOT being cured, as the classical homeopath must obey the rules even though he realises that my direct 'This for That' therapy which they derisively classified as 'Joepathy' is by far the more positive form of therapy which CURES the patient.
I too followed the classical rules but decided many years ago that my own therapy Joepathy, was an advance on the classical homeopathy in practice today which in many cases, does not seem to cure the patient in the same manner that my therapy does. I would like to add that Homeopathy is only a Hobby to me to which I am passionately dedicated and you are invited to visit my own website:
www.joedelivera.com
to read the many cases of many other Miracle Cures that I have been able to do with my patients who consult me and whom I treat completely free of charge.
I am grateful to you for recording your dad's response and his improvement and I have no doubt that this improvement will continue into the future.
You have inquired if you can continue with the Arnica 1M and the answer is YES. You can continue to give it to him twice daily.
You can also add the remedy below to help his bones to heal faster:
Symphytum Q aka Mother Tincture which you will give him in the following manner.
3 Drops in a teaspoonful of water taken thrice daily.
I noted that you refer to Crataetus Q in your post:
'ARNICA is gold like crataegus-Q'
I hope that you are NOT giving it to your dad as this is contraindicated.
Please continue to report his response as often as you can do so as his case is of great interest to me and all who may be following my therapy aka 'Joepathy'.
♡ Joe De Livera last decade
Dear Joe,
So many things to do,and not too much time. Just to report to you that my father is great:)
We took him home on 19th December,because of bad conditions in our hospitals. He had bad halutinations for nearly 2-3 weeks,and then they stopped. After that he is completele concinous,aware of everything. He now speak,eat normally,and the progression is unbelievable even for doctors. I am still giving him Arnica every day:) Do you think I have to stop?
For a week he will go back to hospital for rehabilitation. Now the problem is with his bones,he has a big calcification on his hip and he is in pain,and also he has pains in muscles.He is learning to walk,but still he doesn't have too much strenght.
Anyway,after his miricle recovery,we all,including my father took this as normal way to his recovery.
I also have to report to you that I recommended your remedy to the mother of one 18 years old boy who was also in coma,and he woke up to,after 2 weeks of using the remedy.
So,what to say except THANK YOU a lot,I honestly belive that Arnica really helped.
Best regards
Jovanka
P.S.About Crataetus Q,it wasn't my post,but post from somebody else.
So many things to do,and not too much time. Just to report to you that my father is great:)
We took him home on 19th December,because of bad conditions in our hospitals. He had bad halutinations for nearly 2-3 weeks,and then they stopped. After that he is completele concinous,aware of everything. He now speak,eat normally,and the progression is unbelievable even for doctors. I am still giving him Arnica every day:) Do you think I have to stop?
For a week he will go back to hospital for rehabilitation. Now the problem is with his bones,he has a big calcification on his hip and he is in pain,and also he has pains in muscles.He is learning to walk,but still he doesn't have too much strenght.
Anyway,after his miricle recovery,we all,including my father took this as normal way to his recovery.
I also have to report to you that I recommended your remedy to the mother of one 18 years old boy who was also in coma,and he woke up to,after 2 weeks of using the remedy.
So,what to say except THANK YOU a lot,I honestly belive that Arnica really helped.
Best regards
Jovanka
P.S.About Crataetus Q,it wasn't my post,but post from somebody else.
Jovanka Smajic last decade
Hi Jovanka
I am indeed delighted to have news from you of your Dad's progress even though very late, as I have been anxiously awaiting news from you about his progress.
It is exactly 2 months today to your first post on this thread when I first took his case and I am glad that my therapy aka 'Joepathy' has worked again and has succeeded in returning him to normal life even though he will have to spend some more time in rehabilitation.
It is a pity that you did not keep me posted with his progress when I last inquired about his on December 20 as I would have prescribed Symphytum Q to help his bones to fuse together more rapidly. It is now too late to use this remedy as his bones would have fused as best they could naturally.
You can now change the potency of the Arnica from 1M down to 200c in the Wet dose as this will help him in other ways to recover. I would like to reduce it down even further to 30c in another few months time and you will have to keep in constant contact with me to enable me to help him.
You can use Hypericum 200 in the Wet dose taken every 3-4 hours as this is by far the most effective pain killer and is also very safe in use unlike the standard analgesics which I hope have not been prescribed for him due to the after effects they have on the liver and other organs.
I would like to thank you for this wonderful news which means a lot to me at my advanced age of 84 as your post confirms that age had not dulled the manner that I use and prescribe this Miraculous Science of Homeopathy in my own way, which has been dubbed 'Joepathy' by the classical homeopaths some years ago, when they discovered that my therapy CURED while their classical homeopathy which is governed by strict rules did not equal my Joepathy.
Can you please send me an email to enable me to contact you in the future in case of need? You will find my address on my profile which you can access by just clicking on my name above.
Thank you also for sharing the news of the 18 year old boy who woke up after 2 weeks using my Arnica 1M therapy. I would like to have more details of how he got into a coma and how long the Arnica 1m took to wake him up and also how he is today.
Kind Regards
Joe De Livera
I am indeed delighted to have news from you of your Dad's progress even though very late, as I have been anxiously awaiting news from you about his progress.
It is exactly 2 months today to your first post on this thread when I first took his case and I am glad that my therapy aka 'Joepathy' has worked again and has succeeded in returning him to normal life even though he will have to spend some more time in rehabilitation.
It is a pity that you did not keep me posted with his progress when I last inquired about his on December 20 as I would have prescribed Symphytum Q to help his bones to fuse together more rapidly. It is now too late to use this remedy as his bones would have fused as best they could naturally.
You can now change the potency of the Arnica from 1M down to 200c in the Wet dose as this will help him in other ways to recover. I would like to reduce it down even further to 30c in another few months time and you will have to keep in constant contact with me to enable me to help him.
You can use Hypericum 200 in the Wet dose taken every 3-4 hours as this is by far the most effective pain killer and is also very safe in use unlike the standard analgesics which I hope have not been prescribed for him due to the after effects they have on the liver and other organs.
I would like to thank you for this wonderful news which means a lot to me at my advanced age of 84 as your post confirms that age had not dulled the manner that I use and prescribe this Miraculous Science of Homeopathy in my own way, which has been dubbed 'Joepathy' by the classical homeopaths some years ago, when they discovered that my therapy CURED while their classical homeopathy which is governed by strict rules did not equal my Joepathy.
Can you please send me an email to enable me to contact you in the future in case of need? You will find my address on my profile which you can access by just clicking on my name above.
Thank you also for sharing the news of the 18 year old boy who woke up after 2 weeks using my Arnica 1M therapy. I would like to have more details of how he got into a coma and how long the Arnica 1m took to wake him up and also how he is today.
Kind Regards
Joe De Livera
♡ Joe De Livera last decade
Dear Joe,
Thank you for your quick reply.Tell me about Arnika 200c,do I use it same as the previous one:3 drops in 500ml of water?Or in another way?
Also for Hypericum200 for pain,how do I use it? Sorry for this 'simple'questions,but I do not know anything about homeopathy so I need exact instructions:)
I told you about bones, and you told me about Symphytum Q,we use it for one month.But I think for him it was too late for everything, as bones are concerned,because he was in hospital for more then month and they were trying only to save his life,and didn't pay attention too much about the position of his bones, so they connected badly in some parts.
The story of the boy is that he had a car accident on 14th of November(2 days after my dad fell down from the tree).So I met his mother in ER in reanimation center. He had very massive brain injure,massive bleeding in his head,in the start and also after 10 days again.So,he also hardly survive,and stayed in coma.After my father went out from reanimation center we lost the conntact (it was the beginning of December).Then we met them again somewhere around 14,15th December.We've already started to use Arnika,and I told that to his mother as he was still in coma.They ordered Arnika,and started to use it. After I don't know how long,maybe 10-15 days he started to wake up.They also believe that Arnica helped him.We are still in contact,he was moved to another hospital which is in other town,and they still is giving him Arnica.He is now aware,use his computer , can communicate,but he cannot speak.He understand everything,know all things but still have problem with verbal communication.
I was very happy because I could give them advise which you gave to me. So I had that feeling that I also helped somebody. I now can imagine a little bit of your happiness when you help somebody.In my hardest time I turned this planet upside down to try to find a cure for my dad, and God sent me to you.
I wish you all the best
Keep in touch
Jovanka
Thank you for your quick reply.Tell me about Arnika 200c,do I use it same as the previous one:3 drops in 500ml of water?Or in another way?
Also for Hypericum200 for pain,how do I use it? Sorry for this 'simple'questions,but I do not know anything about homeopathy so I need exact instructions:)
I told you about bones, and you told me about Symphytum Q,we use it for one month.But I think for him it was too late for everything, as bones are concerned,because he was in hospital for more then month and they were trying only to save his life,and didn't pay attention too much about the position of his bones, so they connected badly in some parts.
The story of the boy is that he had a car accident on 14th of November(2 days after my dad fell down from the tree).So I met his mother in ER in reanimation center. He had very massive brain injure,massive bleeding in his head,in the start and also after 10 days again.So,he also hardly survive,and stayed in coma.After my father went out from reanimation center we lost the conntact (it was the beginning of December).Then we met them again somewhere around 14,15th December.We've already started to use Arnika,and I told that to his mother as he was still in coma.They ordered Arnika,and started to use it. After I don't know how long,maybe 10-15 days he started to wake up.They also believe that Arnica helped him.We are still in contact,he was moved to another hospital which is in other town,and they still is giving him Arnica.He is now aware,use his computer , can communicate,but he cannot speak.He understand everything,know all things but still have problem with verbal communication.
I was very happy because I could give them advise which you gave to me. So I had that feeling that I also helped somebody. I now can imagine a little bit of your happiness when you help somebody.In my hardest time I turned this planet upside down to try to find a cure for my dad, and God sent me to you.
I wish you all the best
Keep in touch
Jovanka
Jovanka Smajic last decade
Hi Jovanka
Thank you for copying your email to me on this thread as this will enable many visitors to read about my therapy aka Joepathy which has helped your father in a manner that no other drug or remedy could have possibly done.
Answering your questions:
You will make the Arnica 200 remedy in precisely the same manner that you made the Arnica 1M. I do not feel that your dad requires the high 1M potency as he is almost back to normal and I believe that the 200c potency will help him better right now.
Please keep me advised of the progress of the 18 year old boy who was unconscious for some months and woke up in 15 days after you suggested to his parents to use the same Arnica 1M therapy which helped your dad.
I too believe that God sent you to me through the ABC and am thankful that I have been able to help your dad to return back to life after his accident.
I shall be interested to learn from what height your dad fell from the tree.
Thank you for copying your email to me on this thread as this will enable many visitors to read about my therapy aka Joepathy which has helped your father in a manner that no other drug or remedy could have possibly done.
Answering your questions:
You will make the Arnica 200 remedy in precisely the same manner that you made the Arnica 1M. I do not feel that your dad requires the high 1M potency as he is almost back to normal and I believe that the 200c potency will help him better right now.
Please keep me advised of the progress of the 18 year old boy who was unconscious for some months and woke up in 15 days after you suggested to his parents to use the same Arnica 1M therapy which helped your dad.
I too believe that God sent you to me through the ABC and am thankful that I have been able to help your dad to return back to life after his accident.
I shall be interested to learn from what height your dad fell from the tree.
♡ Joe De Livera last decade
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