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Classical Homeopathy .. ?

Dear friends, 9th Sept 05
I am new member to the forum. I am seeing few articles on Classical Homeopathy and debates attacking on people who are not practicing it. I am a licensed homeopath practicing for the past 34 years.

As discussed by few of our friends, I would like to know from these learned members what they mean by Classical homeopathy? I can give you more than 50 reasons, to tell how we can practice (very) successfully without following the classical way (C Burnett – sorry, not to disrespect) and I can also quote more than 100 reasons how people claiming to be practicing classical homeopathy actually do not practice it (and they don’t know how to do it!) and claim to be classicalist. To put it straight - to practice classical form of homeopathy as dictated by our master - Hahnemann - you just need 10 gms of 10 size pills of polycrest remedies to practice for whole of your life time and just 5 gms of rarely used remedies can be used for two or three generations of homeopaths! How many of you do it. I am not doing it and will never do it.

Secondly, all of you know that from times immemorial it is the non- college qualified homeopathic practioners are the ones who had kept the profession alive. Remember that Hering and Kent are not college qualified homeopaths, both responsible to make USA the temple of homeopathy in the last century. Stick to Hahnemann’s dictum, and most of us (all of us to be frank) who make their livelihood practicing only homeopathy will starve and be in penury. Dr Suresh
 
  Dr Suresh on 2005-09-08
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
Dr Suresh,

I am indeed grateful to you for having started this topic as to what constitutes Classical Homeopathy.

I do not know if you have been following the major controversy that was caused on another Homeopathic forum to which I contribute often which started when I first posted the record of my successes in the use of Arnica and Nat Phos 6x which I felt would be of interest to others on the forum. I have always maintained that I am not qualified in Homeopathy. I have however been deeply interested in this science which I have studied since 1970 and have used my free time to help anyone who seeks my assistance in Sri Lanka which I gladly give free of charge together with the remedies. I am 76 years of age and the CEO of a very old family owned business organization and after my sons joined me after their studies abroad, I now have some free time which I use to help those in distress who post on this and another forum.

The controversy first started by my sharing my success in the cure of a case of Chronic Eczema which had defied a cocktail of drugs including steroids which the patient had been using for over 10 years with no success when he changed over to ayurvedic drugs which did not help him. I used Arnica 6c and he noticed considershaable improvement in just 3 days and in 3 months he was able to stop using it and can now, after about a year without treatment, be considered cured.

I also recorded another case of Weight loss in an obese person to whom I had given Nat Phos 6x to help his GERD and he reported that he had lost 5kg in a month while his gastric condition was also permanently cured.
I then used this remedy on others who were overweight and they too recorded a considerable loss of weight.

It has always been my custom to share with others my success in the use of Homeopathic remedies to help cure ailments that are not recorded in the classical texts and I was very surprised indeed to note that instead of expressing at least some interest in my 'discoveries', they criticized me sometimes in the most disparaging terms for having dared to use remedies in a manner that was not sanctioned in the Homeopathic texts. This type of attack was uncalled for and when I discovered that I was being unnecessarily vilified, I decided to counter these attacks with my own form of defense and you may be interested in the thread that I shall copy below which is just one of about 6 others that were posted by the classical homeopaths which will give you and others who read this thread, the drama that ensued after my posts.

Homeopathic Warfare (copied)

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/34713/

From Joe De Livera
on 2005-08-12
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I mentioned yesterday in my post entitled "Thank You to All" that this was not the first time that I had been subjected to attack by a few individuals for daring to share my 'discoveries' with others members of the Otherhealth Forum.

I am copying below the unedited version of the original copy as it was first posted by the author which was later moderated.

This behaviour on the part of otherwise intelligent persons who display violent reactions to my posting my discoveries which I thought that others too can benefit from, can be the subject of an interesting research project which may be of interest to us all.

http://www.otherhealth.com/showthread.php?t=5394&page=1&pp=1...

Please read all pages up to page 5 in which the following article appears on

http://www.otherhealth.com/showthread.php?t=5394&page=5&pp=1...


HOMEOPATHIC WARFARE

It has indeed been a matter of some concern to me that I seem to have inadvertently aroused the ire of many classical homeopaths in describing the methodology I have used during the past 20 years, when I first started to actively help others who sought my assistance in Sri Lanka. Homeopathy to me is a Hobby and I do delight in helping others free of charge.

I have always maintained that I am not qualified with Diplomas and Degrees in Homeopathy as some who post on this and other forums are. At my age of 76 I feel confident that I can even now, fulfill this requirement if it is considered to be a sine qua non to post on this forum by those who scoff and openly deride my efforts to honestly record my own experience in my use of Homeopathic Remedies. I am only too aware that my methods may perhaps differ from those that these other homeopaths of the classical school use in the treatment of their patients. My recording of these cases on this forum was not done out of bravado but in the hope that others who read my post may perhaps remember that Arnica, which I consider a "Miracle Remedy", can be used for some unusual applications which are not normally known.

The fact remains that I have had some unusual success in helping many patients, some of whom were chronic cases which others were not able to cure, which I succeeded with Arnica. I have always maintained that it is not the method adopted in the cure that matters, but it is the cure itself that is paramount in the successful treatment of the case. I might mention here that it is the personal satisfaction that I get from helping someone with a difficult case that impells me to spend my time recording my thoughts on this forum. I do not seek to convert those to whom Homeopathy is a religion from which any deviation attracts dire consequences. I have honestly endeavoured to project another vista of using the great legacy that Hahnemann left us in Homeopathic Remedies which do not suffer in any way in the methods used in their application to help a patient. As I pointed out above it is the cure that is paramount. It is not the method used, classical or otherwise, that matters.

I did notice that one of the Homeopaths had gone to some depths to record only the failures that I had encountered in the use of Arnica, in the treatment of Insomnia. May I inquire from this same Homeopath, how many cases of abject failures has he encountered in his own practice using the commonly used remedies for the many ailments that he has treated ? The mere fact that Arnica did not help a few cases to overcome their insomnia is no reason to declare that it cannot help anyone. If Arnica does not help a case, there are many other remedies that can be used which can be identified using the classical method aided by Radar. I must make it clearly understood that I am not against the classical method. It is just that I am not a slave to it that I wish to make clearly understood especially to those who deride my attitude to Homeopathy.

It seems grossly unfair that I have been singled out from the many others who post on this forum to be at the receiving end of flak from these classical homeopaths one of whom posted a vicious tirade yesterday against me which was recorded on my email version of the posts which I believe that all who subscribe to the email version would have also received, which I shall copy below:

On Aug 4, 2005, at 10:49 AM, otherhealth.com Forums wrote:

Hello Joe De Livera,

Brio has just replied to a thread you have subscribed to entitled - Arnica and sleep - in the Homeopathy List Discussion forum of otherhealth.com.

This thread is located at:
http://www.otherhealth.com/showthre...09&goto=newpost

Here is the message that has just been posted:
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Please see:

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/31111/ as of last post: Joe's remedy not working.

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/31173/1 as of last post, having tried Joe's suggestions the poster still asks, "What do we do for her sleep ?" In other words, it doesn't seem to be working.

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/29319/ another negative experience

Can you explain this discrepancy, Joe?

Are you deliberately lying?

Are you having memory and other brain function problems?

Or?

[quote]I have only treated ailments that I feel that I am capable of handling and in the majority of cases where I have suggested any remedy, it had almost always been used by me personally in the past. It is only when I am convinced that it has been of some benefit to me and am satisfied that it is worthy of being used by the patient, that I make bold to suggest the remedy. [/unquote]

But since you jump right in without taking a history or case in any way, you have no way to know how complex a problem may be besides the initial question about what to do for a headache, or what to do for lack of sleep. And your statement do not match to reality as in the statement you make that i quote at the start of this thread, not matching the reality that I find when I go look at the other Forum you refer us to.

I did find one very glowing thank you from someone that was helped, but the negatives I was able to find were more numerous. Unfortunately I didn't find the search function on that site easy to use.
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I must admit that I was appalled by this tirade and took it up with the Moderator who confirmed to me that he would have taken action immediately, but that when he checked the post on the forum he discovered that these offending lines had been deleted by the author after posting.

I do believe that this forum and the ABC forum to which I also contribute are both primarily focused on helping anyone who seeks assistance from the group of Homeopaths who all help by contributing their knowledge and experience in the treatment of the ailment that was posted for their advice.

It would seem so very unnecessary for anyone to take up cudgels with a person like me, who has up to now patiently suffered in silence in the recent past, in spite of the direct attacks that have been leveled at me personally on my comprehension of Homeopathy and the methodology that I have used in helping others. It is my right as it is also the right of others who advice on this forum to prescribe any advice which they deem fit. If the classical school of homeopaths feel that the remedy prescribed by me is incorrect or is dangerous, they have every right to criticize it provided it is done in civil terms, with sufficient evidence to prove that the remedy suggested is incorrect or can be dangerous.

I believe that the majority of the flak that I has been levelled against me is due to my not following in the classical tradition which I have often discovered from those who prescribe on this and other forums has invariably not been followed, as this is just not possible without a personal consultation with the patient perhaps with the aid of homeopathic software.

I have invariably based my prescription on my own 'proving' of the remedies that I suggest as I had at some time in the past used Arnica or another remedy on myself to help in the ailment that I was suffering from. If I was not certain of the effect of the remedy, I would not dare to prescribe it to a patient for obvious reasons. It will be observed that it is not essential that the standard classical formula is always adopted during a consultation to prescribe for any ailment if one in certain that the remedy suggested has been used successfully previously for a similar case. I do appreciate that the more complicated cases can be solved more easily with reference to Homeopathic software like Radar and others.

It is not essential that it is only the knowledge that one gathers from attending diploma courses in Homeopathy that is the only qualification to help others. It is eventually the mind and the experience that matters in the identification of the remedy that one uses, with or without the diploma or the software, to help a patient. I do firmly believe that it is the experience that one has accumulated over the years, that is more important in the prescribing of any remedy, to help cure anyone who seeks assistance.

It is strange that this controversy originally started by my recording my own success in the use of Arnica and Nat Phos 6x which I felt that I should share with anyone who was interested in these 2 remedies. I was not aware that they had already been mentioned in Allen's MM which I must admit, I do not have and which I have ordered. I was not interested in the kudos of being the first to discover a new remedy that can cure an ailment which can be helped with either or both these remedies mentioned above. The fact still remains however that Arnica is not commonly used for ailments like Eczema, Cellulitis, Insomnia and many others that I have recorded in this forum. As far as I am aware the use of Nat Phos 6x for Obesity has not been recorded by anyone up to the time that first mentioned it last Christmas Day 2004 on this forum.

I do hope that those who have belittled my efforts at prescribing a remedy to those who post on this forum, seeking a cure for their ailment will please remember that it is not only those who are armed with a diploma who can help suffering humanity. It seems so unnecessary for Homeopaths to seek to vilify others as has been done to me in the recent past, as their primary duty is to help those who post on this and other forums who are in distress, seeking help for their ailments. I do hope that good sense will prevail and that those who post on this and other forums will, at least in the future, please observe the cardinal rules of etiquette and be civil to others in their posts which are read by thousands throughout the world, before they undertake to help cases posted by those who seek assistance on this forum.

Joe De Livera
Colombo
Sri Lanka
 
Joe De Livera last decade
the most important requisite for understanding homeopathy is a degree in the school of life, without this who could understand people?
I rarely practise classical homeopathy- my training taught me this and other more contemporary methods. My bent is towards the more contemporary methods.
 
erika last decade
"unfortunately" i have college degree - but fortuately it was biology not homeopathy!
I'm saying fortuately because i really believe that life teaches better and the school might teach you bias and dogmas which are limiting.

I pick my own teachers (unlike in hom. college!-I read book by dean of hom.college in major city here and it was really bad).

Still i am trying to follow the classical approach.
 
Astra2012 last decade
classical prescribing is good - what is dubious is prescribers religiously sticking to one remedy that they deem to be 'right' if the patient is still suffering.
 
erika last decade
I wanted to say that for a long time but always forgot:
Welcome back Erika!
 
Astra2012 last decade
I have had great teachers: no dogmas and bias but thinking and common sense.

These two are enough to learn anything.

One remedy at a time makes it easier on--line though.
In normal practice: I met a homeopath wgo exclusively alternates and has good results with no aggravations!
 
Astra2012 last decade
I agree astra - I find alternating particularly good in acute pain, i.e. dental extraction effects, bone grafts. I must admit in these situations I have also mixed/combined - it really depends on the situation and patient.
On-line it is true that one remedy at a time is easier and much more practical.

It sounds like you have been blessed with good teachers - did you meet them by chance or were they recommended to you?
 
erika last decade
Dr Suresh, WELCOME, amongst all of us.

1. Let us all know by what you understand on the practice of Classical Homeopathy.
2. Did you, in your 34 years of experience, practice Classical Homeopathy.
3. Please give your non-financial reasons for switching over your practice to non-classical homeopathy methods,
4. Please give here all those 50 and 100 reasons, which you mentioned in your above post.

You said the following : "from times immemorial it is the NON-college QUALIFIED homeopathic practioners are the ones who had kept the profession alive"

1. How many of them are really successful verses the qualified homeopaths
2. Could it be possible that the non-classical homeopaths, prefer to practice the other way around, (that is leaving aside the Homeopathic father / founder's classical guidelines) just because they find it conventionally more easier and simpler to do so. After all, the patients just simply switch over from one non-classical homeopath to another non-classical homeopath. Isn't this too a fact. Same, above, applies obviously to non-college non-qualified homeopathic practioners. Obviously, what's such homeopathic practioners got to lose. There's always another, impatient, patient waiting in the clinic's waiting room. THE SHOW GOES ON.

Why fire a single shot gun, when a easier multi / several fire gun is available. After all, amongest all such multi fire shots, atleast one such fired bullet (remedy) will hit the target, ULTIMATELY. No need to take proper accurate aim (repertorise & constitutionise)

Both, Hering and Kent and other homeopath stalwarts were all medically qualified in non-homeopath medical colleges. For these qualified medicos, picking up Homeopathic symptomology and repertorising is like teaching a Duck to swim. In fact a doctor from an non-prejudiced Allopathy background has a superior professional perception & is better able to decipher the case history verses the unqualified or single qualfied medical person. Afterall Homeopathy is the result of a failed crude mode of Allopathy.

A non-classical Homeopath, financially, may own a apartment or a house.
A classical Homeopath, financially, owns mansions.
Please google research on lifestyles of Hahnemann, Kent, Hering, Boenninghausen.

Too many cooks spoil the broth = Too many medicines spoil the case.

Also consider reading : http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/35254
 
Nesha-India last decade
Homeopathy works on a principle of “Simi Solo Mini Dynamics”. How many of us follow this method. Classical homeopathy is nothing but, a method devised and advocated by the founder of homeopathy – in his Organon of medicine. I have NEVER practiced the so called classical homeopathy in my 34 years of practice. I do practice this as an experiment on few occasions. Homeopathic practice is not my full pledged profession and I am not at all financially dependent on its practice. I only do research in homeopathy with my own grants (I never accept donations). I do not have a permanent internet connection as well. You have misunderstood my argument—why claim to be as classical homeopath, when one does not practice it in actual practice? What is the practice of prescribing to innocent patients Alfalfa tonic, Arnica hair oil, and Tonic prescription for menstrual and sexual disorders? Is it Classical Homeopathy? Which edition of Organon of medicine has thought this? Probably the 7th Ed is on the way or it has already come I do not know!!!

Prescribing mega doses of potentized dilutions, in multiple drop or spoon doses and mother tinctures in spoon and ounce doses (fortunately not in liter or gallons)—is it classical homeopathy? By this I hope you must understand what I mean by classical homeopathy.

A friend of mine who is college qualified in homeopathy and teaches Organon of medicine in homeopathic med coll in Bangalore. He was in the habit of ridiculing people and insulting many for not practicing homeopathy as per Organon. When his students consult me he used to tell them that I am allopath and not competent to discuss Organon (He if right and I never felt bad). However he quietly requested me not to encourage students to discuss (enlighten-educate) on the subject of Organon. Of course I DO NOT know anything about it (Organon). Let the author touch her conscience and tell me how much he/she has understood the Organon. Kindly do not take it as insult. I am only frank

From the point of his classical contribution a leading homeopath from Kerala (India) claiming to be the most classicalist (?) has written a book in which he states that when a silver coin is placed under the tongue of a cancer (suspected) patient, the coin turns black (classically) if the patient is positive for cancer and remains unchanged if the case is negative for cancer --- what a classical contribution. He is not at all aware what cancer is!. I tested this classical method on several patients and did not work on even one case. I wrote to this classical homeopath to explain or give reference form where he got this classical idea. He never gave a reply (as expected). I sent letters to him in person through messengers and still did not get a reply (again as expected). He claims to be the most classical of homeopaths. Only I try to tell you that I am not in a position to accept such____ please read the classical contribution posted by our friends on the subject "Masturbation" and use of liquid medication in forums.

So called Classical college qualified homeopaths suffer from serious inferiority complex in front of an allopath. Here… When a homeopath prescribes an allopathic medicine it is termed incorrect (it is also illegal) and whole of allopathic profession goes against it. But when an allopath prescribes a homeopathic medicine the homoeopath welcomes it and, in fact quotes it in well read places, boasting that an allopath is prescribing homeopathic medicine. Coming to arguments of Kent and Hering. Both are undoubtedly qualified in allopathy and NOT at all qualified in Homeopathy. Here they are treated as lay person (to homeopathy). It is something like an Engineer, a science graduate or an arts degree holder etc practicing homeopathy. Homeopathy is different from allopathy and by virtue of processing an allopathic degree one does not qualify someone to practice homeopathy or vice versa.
I would like to emphasize that a non qualified homeopah practicing a wrong way of homeopathy is disputed, but, it is the qualified and college professors and PG teachers are the ones I would like you to note. It is qualified homeopaths who prefer to practice the other way than what is taught and preached by them.

Regarding NON QUALIFIED homeopaths keeping the profession alive. You know it is illegal to prescribe homeopathic medicine (or any medicine) by a non qualified homeopath. Strictly enforce this and see that all the pharmacies selling homoeopathic medicines NOT to dispense medicines to a prescription issued by an NON QUALIFIED or non licensed homeopaths. That is, prescriptions issued by a qualified and or regd homeopaths only to be honored. With in a month many (all) the manufactures of homeopathic drugs will go under liquidation.
Kindly explain your views on Classical homeopathy, if you feel my explanation is not correct. The Classicalist live in mansions by virtue of not practicing classical homeopathy.
Finally, keep counting the number of reasons. Dr Suresh, 9-9-05
 
Dr Suresh last decade
Dr.Suresh
Classical Homeopaths religiously follow the organon guidelines and their own conscious. Their ability to repertorise & constitutionise, single remedies by virtue of their own patience & experience. A targeted, confident and voluntary dedication will result in a classical homeopath. Such actual classical homeopaths are rare personalities and are few in clinical practice (monetary point of view - immaterial).

Deviation from above produces non-classical homeopaths. Non-classical Homeopaths tend not to follow the organon. They need not to, since it becomes cumbersome & inconvenient for them to handle patients both clinically & financially. Worldwide, No college claims to teach Classical or non-classical homeopathy. However they do refer to old teachings pertaining to classical trend.

Fear of losing out on a patient or over-confidence or over-inflated enthusiasm in handling a non-understandable / non-manageable case also creates non-classical homeopaths. A craving for handling many patients, due to monetary benefits and for glorification among the peers, also are a product of non-classical homeopath's desires. A wavey-targeted, over-confident and in-voluntary vague dedication will result in a classical homeopath. Such non-classical homeopaths are dime a dozen, in clinical practice..

People from all over the world, including Kerala, struggle, harp & tend to create an identity of their own, irrespective of the fact whether they qualify for the same or not. They tend to capatilise on a few random experiences or pirated successes, their own senior age, self-propagated, self-glorified self-respect and what not's by a few prejudiced supporters, further supported by a few random books and readymade software repertorising techniques.

Such people come up with hare-brained ideas, and persistently keep on harping on their success to the extent that even a most experienced Homeopath (classical or otherwise) tends to get diverted from his own approach to classical practice. The invention of Alfalfa tonic, Arnica hair oil and other such prescriptions are the off-shoot of such non-classical homeopaths or the non-qualified homeopaths. Most Medicos are fully aware of the gullibility of the patients and captalise on their hare-brained multiple prescriptions or ready made OTC formulations.

In India, as of today, there is no law for a pharmacy store, against dispensing Homeopathy medicines to non-homeopaths. Same applies to most parts of the world. You can order one to all Homeopathic medicines on-line via Internet without any prescription. The non-qualified homeopath capatilise these fact to their advantage. Most diseased or sick people are blind to these points, their sole objective is to have cure from their malady and are easily gullible.

Homeopath's declaring self as a CLASSICAL homeopath, have a desire (in-built) to invite special attention, special respect, special awe from other peer homeopaths. They may put up a board outside their clinic declaring themself as CLASSICAL homeopath, since there is nothing to stop them doing that. Here too the Non-qualified bookish self-proclaimed homeopaths take advantage. That's the norm, worldwide.

Proverb : "One doctor makes work for another"
 
Nesha-India last decade
Well said Nesha, The desire to be called as "Doctor" is a great incentive for anyone to post on the net.
In the west it is illegal to call oneself this unless one passes the standards by verifiable regulating body, and is registered.
Some posts on this and other websites are populated by doubtfull, self titled people, who's remedie suggestions have no logical basis,and follow up advice becomes non existant.
There is a lot to this therapy and after nearly 20 years I'm still learning how it works and how people really react to it, in depth.
My own CLASSICAL training of 5 years found all of us students going through all of the arguments I see posted here, and more besides.
Best Regards
 
parachute last decade
We are debating on the classical homeopathy and how many of you (I am not a classical homeopath) are really practicing it as per organon. There is no argument whether it is practiced by a qualified or non qualified, licensed (registered) or non registered homeopaths
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In any healthy debate like this one the debaters (here people like me and people who claim to be Classicalists) have to put forth their arguments and exchange views.

In response to my first posting you had asked about:

1. Let us all know by what you understand on the practice of Classical Homeopathy.
2. Did you, in your 34 years of experience, practice Classical Homeopathy.
3. Please give your non-financial reasons for switching over your practice to non-classical homeopathy methods,
4. Please give here all those 50 and 100 reasons, which you mentioned in your above post.

Knowing very well that I have put up 34 years of experience in homeopathy and your questions were not professional in nature I still gave reply and it was already posted on 9-9-05

But, you have NOT given reply to my questions as below:

1.To practice classical form of homeopathy as dictated by our master - Hahnemann - you just need 10 gms of 10 size pills of polycrest remedies to practice for whole of your life time and just 5 gms of rarely used remedies can be used for two or three generations of homeopaths! How many of you do it. I am not doing it and will never do it.

2. What is the practice of prescribing to innocent patients Alfalfa tonic, Arnica hair oil, and Tonic prescription for menstrual and sexual disorders? Is it Classical Homeopathy? Which edition of Organon of medicine has taught this? Probably the 7th Ed is on the way or it has already come I do not know!!!

3. Prescribing mega doses of potentized dilutions, in multiple drop or spoon doses and mother tinctures in spoon and ounce doses (fortunately not in liter or gallons)—is it classical homeopathy? By this I hope you must understand what I mean by classical homeopathy

These are only examples from my message postings, I have in addition, also raised several other issues in my message/s. I expect you to answer these questions first before moving to other newer issues. Remember this HEALTHY debate on Homeopathy. If not you, the forum members from all the over world will know that you are not capable of answering to my genuine questions on Classical homeopathy.

Do you know (very much you know) that the so called practioners’ of Classical homeopathy prescribe and use these Arnica hair oils, Sex tonics etc. If you do not know I shall send some prescriptions from them, on a condition that you must get it published in all new papers and forums. I promise you that I will never ask for a copy of the 7th Ed of Organon of Medicine from you. Any way I do not practice classical homeopathy.

About your national patriotism I highly appreciate (Kerela) please read further:
A member of our forum has asked me what is Kerela? Kerela is a state in Southern part of India comprising of a very large number of homeopathic followers and practioners. Kerela has the highest literacy rate among all the states in India. Please continue reading.

A very senior homeopath from Kerala who claims to be one of the most distinguished homeopathic classical prescriber in the world and also a complete follower of the sixth edition of the organon of medicine says that there are lot of translation errors made by the translator of this 6th Ed of organon (W.Boericke) from German to English !. I wrote to this classicalist asking him how he knew that mistakes have occurred in the translated edition (in comparison to the original) and also requested him to convey me the errors in English translation such that I can rectify in my copy. I have only an outdated (according to him) pre revised 6th Ed of organon. Though I have kept it only as a collection piece and not for through reading. No reply came from him. I would like to ask him how he come to know about the errors ?

He may be having a copy of the German edition (presumably the original) and with his sound knowledge of German language he might have found the errors in the translated English version. It is also likely from the way he claims as an authority on the sixth edition of organon, that he may be in possession of the original priced manuscript of the sixth edition from Madame S Hahnemann. So go the pseudo classicalism.

This gentlemen classical homeopath who is also a member in several policy decision making boards on homeopathy and a professor (?) at the Post graduate homeopathic medical colleges, also a visiting professor to foreign countries, has gone to the extent of using a modified method of administration of medicines, different from what is directed by Samuel Hahnemann in this last sixth edition. (of course it is out dated for this gentleman)

This sixth revised edition organon specialist in classical homoeopathy (6th REOSCH) has discovered and published a unique and most advanced and a very classical homeopathic form of diagnosing cancer cases (Shhh….please listen, it for your ears only). He advices the patients suspected to be suffering from cancer to take a dose of *Carcinocin 200 one dose each at a gap of 12 hours apart. If the patient is positive for cancer, the pain, discomfort etc is supposed to disappear after the administration of the second dose!! And the pain and discomfort would persist if the cancer is positive! What a classical discovery by a sixth revised edition organon specialized classical homeopath. I tried this classical homeopathic method of diagnosis on several patients suffering from cancer (suspected and confirmed by accepted standard methods) with no results as expected, even in one patient. I wrote to the 6th REOSCH (do not mix up with Rosch or Staf) and did not get any reply. He is also known as silver coin under the tongue specialist to diagnose cancer. Probably coined after the Hollywood movie of yesteryears “One silver dollar” A One Silver Dollar Homoeopath.

Kindly read &reply to this Nisha.

I request you for the benefit of the Homeopathic profession and especially and purely for the benefit of the Classical homeopaths to go through and understand and reply to my messages and kindly do not divert or jump from “this from not that” It should be "this for that" , sorry wording borrowed from a Classical homeopath.

For academic interest I would like to ask you. As a practioner are you eligible to order the following to your patients. Biochemical tests, X rays, CT Scan, Echo, ECG, EEG, MRI, Ultra sound, angiograms, blood tests etc etc.

Kindly tell me whether you can analyze these results from these reports, if patients come to you from another physician who has already ordered these tests and administer homoeopathic medicines.
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*BREAKING NEWS: Foubister the doyen of homeopathy has committed suicide at…………. The coroner is………his attorney has ……..his Will.
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Do not forget to count reasons please. Dr Suresh. 12-9-05
 
Dr Suresh last decade
Mixing up Homeopathy with allopathic methods won't make you understand. As far as I can tell, the one with the most qualifications has the last say, but this doesn't make them the best and most efficient of Homeopathic prescribers. It costs lots of money to become educated and efficient at this healing method, half baked ideas abound in all health therapies world wide, it is a symptom of the age, but homeopathy will evolve to the point where it will be understood and used in a universal form, to heal the sickness in everyone.
Your questions at this moment are too open ended to have any conclusive answers.
A good healer will have patients flocking to them regardless of what they call themselves. A rose by any other name will smell just as sweet.
If you find someone that can heal efficiantly, learn their methods, don't waste your time on futile questions,
Regards
 
parachute last decade
Dr. Suresh - your posts are definitely too long to read!
((or maybe it's just me...)

Erika: actually only one of my great teachers was recomended: dr. England (no kiding!)
I know you are from UK so this must sound weird.

Hi Parachute- I have no idea what you are trying to say (probably it is a response to that long post of dr Suresh) but you are right.
 
Astra2012 last decade
Hi Astra - well yes it does seems weird your teacher is Dr. England!!! Maybe one of those strange and wonderful coincidences!???
Dr Suresh, my apologies, but I too have not been able to read your posts due to the sheer length of them!
and Parachute I kind of agree, I think!
I always remember being told that my learning was really just beginning when I began to practise homeopathy - and I've found that learning is never-ending and always revealing and rewarding!
Keeping an open mind is of utmost importance I believe! It is a shame there always exists these divisions between different 'kinds' of homeopaths................
 
erika last decade
Dear Members.

Thank you for feed back. As said by me earlier, it is a healthy debate going on whether who practices Classical homoeopathy and what really it means as Classical.

In any debate considering myself as defendant in this debate (for argument sake), I am forced to defend in full depending on the questions and arguments posted by others, though you may be aware, many who oppose to my thinking are evading and skipping arguments suiting their convenience. All my postings are made directly from the desktop without making any references; it just comes to me as I what know. Hence the postings are longer, of course with grammatical and spelling mistakes, for which I apologize. But I own full responsibility for technical details.

I also feel that the messages posted are at length. But, lest the plaintiff must not think I am escaping from argument/s, I am forced to put up full defense, again in the interest of Homoeopathy. Though the plaintiff is evasive and inconclusive.

If you are a true homoeopathic follower and lover of the subject please read all my postings in full which will contain much rarer information in days to come.
A member has asked whether I am eligible to prefix as ‘Dr’ in front of my name. I am legally entitled to prefix ‘Dr’ in front of my name by an Act of Parliament of India. I have not put my full qualifications etc etc. The less informed member has also said something about America and……… . The member is probably young and ill informed about homoeopathy in India. How can you expect good quality homoeopaths from those teachers who themselves do not know what is real & classical homeopathy. (Please go through my earlier postings as above). The judiciary in India is one of the finest in the world and I shall write, depending upon the debate, how the false homoeopaths, not true to organon, were shown their place by this august body.
Finally, let the young homoeopath who said something about prefixing ‘Dr’ to find out from their professors of Jurisprudence and Ethics (if at all there is one such subject in their so called structure called college), under what Act they are entitled to prefix “Dr” and also under what Act they are putting RED CROSS symbols in their clinics.
Incidentally in countries like India etc putting a RED CROSS in name boards/sign boards etc…………. I would like to ask the reader (as applicable) to understand the meaning of HEALERS before posting such………….. Dr. Suresh 13-9-05
 
Dr Suresh last decade
Dr.Suresh,
I have earlier answered all your questions, in the same manner in which you described your questions. However, if for some unkown reasons, you are not satisfied with my answers, kindly, please answer them yourself, for the world to see, as you make it out, happily presuming that I do not know the answers. Play your own illusionary shadow.

As a Medico Doctor, you are eligible to order the following to your patients. Biochemical tests, X rays, CT Scan, Echo, ECG, EEG, MRI, Ultra sound, angiograms, blood tests etc etc., Y-E-S, IF IT IS IN THE INTEREST OF THE PATIENT. If patient is to be saved, he is to be saved. Here, Flush the stiff lipped orthodox ethics down the drain. (pun intended). No homeopathic rule against the tests yet, worldwide.

Your question : "Kindly tell me whether you can analyze these results from these reports, if patients come to you from another physician who has already ordered these tests and administer homoeopathic medicines."

My answer : Analysing all above reports are all childs play and results should be only supportingly interpreted alongwith your own symptom repertorising and constitutionalising methods. These Tests should be interpreted as follows (when in comparison) :
1. vis-a-vis WITH HOMEOPATHY : You look up the Repertory for the symptoms. When you find it. Re-confirm symptoms against the drug-picture in the Materia Medica, for proper re-confirmation.
2. vis-a-vis WITH THE LAB REPORTS - Here when the doctor has symptomised the patient, he can always re-confirm the pathological symptoms against the above lab test reports (verses the materia medica).
If another earlier homeopath had already administered homeopathy medicines, new homeopath can always currently placiebo further medicines and re-repertorise once again, as in a fresh case. (which happens when the patient does not disclose his earlier medical history). What's stopping you doing that in your non-classical homeopathic practice. AS IF.....

Your above question has no significance or relevance to the Classical or Non-Classical Homeopathic practice topic. The practice of Classical or Non-Classical Homeopathy concerns to the practice of Homeopathy MEDICINES. which includes constitutionalising individualistic symptology. Classical Homeopathy involves mastering the remedy drug picture in its own drug individualism coupled with the prescribers own patience, intitution, own conscious, voluntary dedication & experience. How are you connecting lab. tests, xrays and other radiology methods with the practice of classical homeopathy. Did the father of Homeopathy, mention anything against these tests anywhere.

Let me understand it this way :

You have the urge to know more of CLASSICAL homeopathy, but due to unknown reasons to yourself, you could not handle classical homeopathy and conveniently switched over to non-classical homeopathy, which you repeatedly stress & justify with, when you say that you are a non-classical homeopath having experience of 34 years and also by declaring again & again that you do not practice Classical homeopathy. Perhaps a self-justification, for not practicing Classical homeopathy.

You said you research in Homeopathy and yet you scout / nose around the world for other peoples research and achievements (what-so-ever that may be) and you fruitlessly communicate with them and then ULTIMATELY ridiculously ridicule and envy them, as you have done in the case of some doctor of Kerala (India) in your above posting. In a way, you have, habitually, yourself ridiculed Classical Homeopaths FOR NOT PRACTICING non-classical homeopathy. The ridicule is even more evident when you keep saying "the 7th organon" and so on. Perhaps you intend to write the 7th Organon, after you conclude your research on non-classical homeopathy. My copy is reserved, please.

If some self-misguided or incompetent self-styled classical homeopath, prescribes Arnica hair oils, Sex tonics etc., how are you linking them to the term "classical homeopathy" and your own self-justified practice of non-classical homeopathy. What is your justification for globally ridiculing Classical Homeopathy practioners.

I do not understand your vague or hinted reasons and answers, simply because they are beyond my understanding to play riddles or other games. If you think you know the answers to your 50 and 100 reasons, which you often count, put it in simple english in ascending numurological order over here for everybody to read, as you have repeatedly claimed.

I do not post for the world's opinion on me nor I bother if anybody calls me a "sore thumb" or "dumbo" (as I have been called in http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/34364, when I highlighted someone's false claims of "my discovery" and "my gifts"). Whether the world thinks that I am capable or not for answering your questions, as you have made out in your ultimatum, is really immaterial to me. Nowhere, in any forum, I have mentioned myself to be anybody (that is whether or not I am a doctor or an dancer or an professional or classical or non-classical homeopath / allopath or anybody). As "HA21" (a forum member) emailed me, saying. "In the age of Internet, anybody and everybody can freely do as anybody wants. IN THE AGE OF INTERNET, EVERYBODY IS A NOBODY"

IF you have the inclination for a healthy non-biased debate, kindly do not glorify yourself of your 34 years of non-classical homeopathic experience or your self-financed research. Your self-justified & self-imposed views on non-classical homeopathic practice is your own choice and by your posting it would appear that you desire everybody to practice non-classical homeopathy, obviously when you are researching on non-classical homeopathy.

Such things tend the researcher to hallucinate further into self-glorification and self-justification. Please re-read and understand deeply by what "parachute" meant in his above posting.

"You cannot change Homeopathy by changing your prescribing methods. You can only change your prescribing methods if you change your thinking" ....... Nesha-India
 
Nesha-India last decade
What I have been times and again emphasizing is who is “practicing classical homoeopathy and what this classical homoeopathy”?. Remember and re-collect that I have posted messages on the quality of knowledge these “so called Classical Homoeopathic Teachers”, from whom knowledge is transferred to the students during their 5 years training and what ORIGINAL quality these teachers and periodicals will offer when the Chief – Editors of such periodicals do not know anything about Classical homoeopathy and research design methodology.


You are yet to tell me about use of use of 1 bottle of 10 size pills of any potency……. In classical homoeopathy.
Secondly, the reason why I am proud to tell you that I have put up 34 years of service in Homoeopathic field is to expect a REPLY FROM YOU WHICH WILL PROVE TO ME AND OTHERS ON THIS FORUM THAT YOU ARE INDEED QUALIFIED TO PONTIFICATE ON THE METHODS USED BY OTHERS IN YOUR CRITICISMS OF OTHERS WHICH YOU HAVE TERMED "THIS FOR THAT"


Thirdly, about the Organon: You tried to preach and teach about the Organon of medicine to the readers on this forum, therefore I have to bring this issue out.

You are silent on the issue of the so called Classicalist prescribing tonics, a hair oils etc. I am not at all surprised about evasive answers! You know that as per the Indian ….. act (?) it is punishable and as stated by me earlier in my postings, I repeat that India has one of the best judiciary in the world and a (small) complaint on these Classical physicians, who deviate from organon can show them a proper place among the true Organon - Homoeopaths. Please do it.

As you preach about the Organon of medicine please tell me under which ‘Aphorism’ has the founder Hahnemann MENTIONED about these Biochemical, radiological testS, ECG, ENMG, CT Scan etc. This PROMPTS me to think AGAIN about ANOTHER edition OF THE Organon THAT APPEARED after 6th EdITION. like 7th and so on which I might have missed.

Also which Materia Medica IMPURA has shown us how to select remedies on the basis of these electronic tests? “This-for-That”. The x-ray shows a small hazy (lazy) dense mass on he right lobe of the left lung: the indicated remedy is so-and-so. The examples can continue.

Only an incompetent homoeopath can request these tests from his patient. (NOTE: TheY emphasize on request – an allopath orders for these tests). The Late Dr Narshimham is a very classical example to advice so called classical homoeopaths who beg their patients to under go these tests which will no way help in remedy selection. Kindly read his teachings. What is this verification of these tests with your Materia Medica Pura?

I do not know why your are silent and sidelining the classical teacher and sENIORr member of the profession who uses “One silver dollar” and “Carcinocin 200” in diagnostic oncologyRemaining silent, when there is a mistake happening, without a protest is nothing but accepting and encouraging the mistake.



LATE BREAKING NEWS: Late Foubister has bequeathed in his Will his entire estate and …… to encourage further research on Carcinocin ……..


Ps: I shall post about the quality of periodicals as and when required Dr Suresh. 14-9-05
 
Dr Suresh last decade
Dr. Suresh.
Seems you read my reply-post without your reading glasses OR you did have difficulty in reading and understanding my very lengthy reply-post OR you lost track on my reply. Age factor, I suppose, with my respects. Anyway, let me be more concise and reproduce some part of my earlier posting, exclusively for your benefit in non-riddle english.

1. First para of my last post : Kindly, please answer them yourself, for the world to see, as you make it out, happily presuming that I do not know the answers.
2. Why do you not answer your own irrelevant questions, in which you ridicule other medicos. Hope you know the answers yourself, on your question "about use of use of 1 bottle of 10 size pills of any potency"
3. Why don't you describe the 7th organon, which you so self-gloatingly stress on to ridicule other homeopaths. I reckon, afterall, you are not going to author the 7th organon. Cancel my earlier order.
4. Did you not read my paragraph, in my last post, on my being a nobody, yet you insist my getting my qualifications by in-direct coerce'ing.
5. In what way, the THIS FOR THAT, amounts to "CRITICISMS OF OTHERS".
6. Where in the world did you find me teaching the organon, as you stated = "You tried to preach and teach about the Organon of medicine to the readers on this forum". Did anybody learn anything from me.
7. I have already explained about the "Classicalist prescribing tonics, a hair oils etc" (ninth para of my last post)
8. India's judiciary system is the most in-efficient, most slowest in the world. India-wide there are more than 100 million cases pending in various courts under various acts, from more than 20 years. Google search = "india court pending cases"
9. You are dead wrong - There is no law in India, atleast, to prosecute "Classical physicians, who deviate from organon". Typical falsification. If there is, give the act, the section and I will take up the matter with the consumer activiist groups in India, UPTO its logical judicial conclusion. You said "DO IT". Why can't you do it yourself when you know "the Indian ….. act (?) ". Do you always tell others to "Do it", including in your research. Only theory'itical directions practical work ... ????.
10. Regarding the lab. tests, xrays and radiological tests, I have already answered in the second, third, fourth and fifth para of my last post. This includes Hahnemann, materia medica, organon or anybody, not saying anything against it.
11. Regarding the doctor on, “One silver dollar” and “Carcinocin 200”, only you know the person and his research, which you tend to unprofessionally ridicule". There is nothing for me to say or my silent side-line on your imaginery doctor of above, leave aside your third last para. Let's see your research vis-a-vis the silver dollar doctors techniques.
12. Like I do not know other numerous doctors, neither do I know Late Dr Narshimham, nor I desire to know .... I know only the fathers of Homeopathy.
13. Your question : "Also which Materia Medica IMPURA has shown us how to select remedies on the basis of these electronic tests? “This-for-That”. The x-ray shows a small hazy (lazy) dense mass on he right lobe of the left lung: the indicated remedy is so-and-so. The examples can continue"



In context with your self-financed-one-man-research and your quest for knowledge of classical homeopathy : Please let us know the significance of your first original post on 8th September.
1. Why do you want to point out about some doctor from Kerala and his research. Do you desire all of us to join in your protest against this doctor.
2. What's your research got to do with the silver-dollar doctor from Kerala.
3. When you are so pre-judiced by "Classical Homeopaths and classical techniques", how are you going to do un-biased or judicious research.
4. Are you going to publish your research, or you are going to immortalise it in a metal box. WHEN.
5. What is your actual research subject : a) Classical homeopathy, b) non-classical homeopathy, c) classical homeopaths / prescribers, d) lab.tests, xrays verses materia medica ..... ?????
6. Your last-para question on 13th September is as follows = "putting a RED CROSS in name boards/sign boards", What is the relevance of this rivalry criticism verses to your research.
7. Your second last para says "LATE BREAKING NEWS: Late Foubister has bequeathed in his Will his entire estate and …… to encourage further research on Carcinocin …….."
I sincerely wish that the Late Foubister has bequeathed his entire estate to you to enable your research. Hope my wish comes true, but then "if wishes were ......." Ooops sorry, no coin to put in the wishing well.


Looks like you are irked by "THIS FOR THAT", a open-ended topic which was started only as a jest. There are few others too who are irked by "THIS FOR THAT". Congrats, YOU ARE NOT ALONE.
 
Nesha-India last decade
Dear Nesha, you get better every day, at least your posts are not rambling nonsense and have a point.
Have a good day
Regards
 
parachute last decade
Dear All

Perhaps this is a good time for a calming remedy? (Joke)

This debate is so important.

Is it not possible to develop a common framework and set of "rules" for dosage and potency that bring together all the nuggets of wisdom from all approaches, holistically?

Perhaps I'm just naiive?
Nature Boy
 
nature boy last decade
Excellent answers from Nisha.
Why should dr. suresh need others to clarify what classical or non-classical homeopathy is and what they practice. There can be a golden mean between strictly following dogma and those who practice homeopathy like allopaths as wonderfully said in Nisha's post, "Allopathically prescribed: This for That". Its okay for dr. (?) suresh to 'criticize' anyone and everyone but those who fit in with his ways, but not for Nisha to speak her truths?
It seems dr. suresh is more ego than anything else.
 
homlee last decade
It is you who had asked and enlightened me about a subject in homoeopathy known as Organon. I confess that I do not know anything about it, I repeat.
Do you know the very same inefficient judiciary (according to you) showed the correct place of the so called classical homoeopaths, by putting them on all their fours, drooling and panting. I shall tell more to the forum friends about the role played by the legal experts in India in show proper place to these stale’s
We are still stuck with the ‘Organon’. We have to discuss more on anatomy, physiology…….. and also a subjects like Gynae, a subject known as homoeopathic Surgery !.
In the interest of Homoeopathy I shall NEVER take up the issue of getting the drug companies closed for manufacturing tonics, hair oils etc, leave alone lodging even a small protest! As I have said earlier, the so called classical homoeopathists are surviving only by prescribing these over the counter tonics etc; and if these companies were to be closed for making these tonics etc, and asked to make only Hahnemannian drugs, they (the manufacturer’s) will all close down in a month.
The poor pseudo classicals who have already taken the homoeopathic profession to the road side will go down the drains.
Can you not find one ‘patriotic’ homoeopath from Kerala state to help you to get this well known person using Carcinocin for diagnostic oncology? Only one member from the state to represent at the highest level in homoeopathic board in this country? Alternatively you can hire the services of Holmes S.
We take utmost care to appoint nursery & primary or even at halfway homes ..but homoeopathy, it is nowhere near this!!. India is the only country in the world, as I know, where homoeopathic division is headed by non qualified homeopaths.
Instead of fighting with me and giving me “opportunities” to expose more and more stale and necrotic state of homoeopathy in our country take some urgent steps to do away with this most non–classical homoeopathic practice.
Regarding Red Cross being displayed by homoeopaths what does it mean, do you know? It is not to find fault, but let many on the forum know about it.
Few persons who post messages on this forum on Classical homoeopathy also post messages under other headings. Kindly scan their master classical of classical homoeopathic prescriptions most of them are of “This-for-That” type.
In the interest of the profession I have asked you for a reference standard or even any un-standard work where in even a remote reference is shown about use of x-ray, CT scan etc to select a remedy. Not but last what is the significance of Classical homoeopathic practioners using a ‘Stethoscope’? Will it help in diagnosis?
Next time I shall write about the status of periodicals in which classical homoeopathic research articles appear from original authors at Post Graduate level. Dr Suresh 16-9-05
 
Dr Suresh last decade
Dr. Suresh.
Point No. 1: Answer to the first para of your post dated 16th September.
YOU SAID "It is you who had asked and enlightened me about a subject in homoeopathy known as Organon. I confess that I do not know anything about it, I repeat. "

ARE YOU SURE THAT I (FIRST) ASKED AND ENLIGHTENED YOU ON THE ORGANON. Well, Thanks ! ! ! but I did not ask or enlighten you on the Organon. Now, Please refer to you post dated 9th September, part of your first para reproduced below :

"Homeopathy works on a principle of “Simi Solo Mini Dynamics”. How many of us follow this method. Classical homeopathy is nothing but, a method devised and advocated by the founder of homeopathy – in his Organon of medicine."

HERE, DID YOU YOURSELF NOT MENTION THE SUBJECT OF "ORGANON"


Point No. 2 : Your mid-Para- 7. You said "India is the only country in the world, as I know, where homoeopathic division is headed by non qualified homeopaths".
Answer : TRUE, Very True. HOMEOPATHY IS HEADED BY NON-QUALIFIED HOMEOPATHS. That's "entrepreneurship". And "entrepreneurship" acumen / work can be entrusted to "entrepreneur's". You think a professional practicing doctor should leave aside his medico profession & manage a business enterprise. And that's precisely the reason, when in comparion World-wide, India has the Highest number of Homeopath doctors, Highest number of stand-alone Homeopathic colleges, Highest number of Homeopathic pharma companies, Highest number of Patients who prefer Homeopathy. Highest number of Homeopathic OTC medicine formulations, Highest number of Homeopath critics, research centres, clinics & hospitals.

Point No.3 : IN INDIA and worldwide, the people's appointed Govt. bodies, Health Ministries, Drug Acts, all legally allow manufacturing for OTC homeopathic medicines. Worldwide also there is no legal restrictions on prescribing OTC homeopathic medicines / tonics etc... . Why would anyone want them to be closed down. If there is no Doctor in a town, the OTC atleast acts as a support to the patients. Would you understand this. In case of an Heart attack or acute Heart distress, it is the OTC medicine "ASPRIN", which acutely helps the patient in the absence of a doctor on the spot.

IT SHOULD BE THE HOMEOPATH DOCTOR'S OWN CONSCIENCE to decide to prescribe the OTC or not to prescibe OTC, in the same manner in which he choses to practice classical or non-classical homeopathy. Why should they obey or listen to your criticism. If a homoeopath is not able to obtain a cure from the OTC, his practice will go down the drains. SO BE IT. Where are the rules & regulations against OTC.

Your Para - 8 : You said "Instead of fighting with me ....".
ANSWER : I don't understand fighting. What I understand and say to you, is that "I am engaging your egostic mental itch ...".

Your Question :Regarding Red Cross being displayed by homoeopaths what does it mean, do you know? It is not to find fault, but let many on the forum know about it."
My Answer : The question originates from you. Please answer it yourself, if you know the answer when in relation to your first original post. What's the criticism in this. How does the twin-snake-entangled Green cross relate to the Red cross, in relation to the patients understanding for an indication to a Doctor's clinic in the vicinity, which may be marked / indicated by a Red cross, which since ancient times, the patient has learned to identify the Red cross with a Doctor. Red cross is worldwide normally understood as a free-voluntary medical help sign. What's the relevance with the Red cross verses the Green cross with OVERALL VERSES the patient dis-eased state.


WE ALL are waiting for your reply on "to practice classical form of homeopathy as dictated by our master - Hahnemann - you just need 10 gms of 10 size pills of polycrest remedies to practice for whole of your life time and just 5 gms of rarely used remedies can be used for two or three generations of homeopaths!" Please answer. Let not the curtain fall deliberately on this one.


IN your third last para in your last post. You say : "Few persons who post messages on this forum on Classical homoeopathy also post messages under other headings. Kindly scan their master classical of classical homoeopathic prescriptions most of them are of “This-for-That” type"
MY ANSWER : What else are you expecting from the patient's short and incomplete symptom description that they post here. The doctors / prescribers who suggest / prescribe medicines on this forum, do it on the basis of the vague & short description given by the patient on this forum. That itself should be supreme free-help enough in this distance-prescribing technique. YOU CRITICISE EVEN THIS UNIQUENESS.

Very truly in "THIS FOR THAT" fashion. "THIS" medicine is suggested for "THAT" symptom. A patient gives one symptom, the forum-doctor prescribes for that symptom. Even when in face-to-face consultation, doctors prescribe (collectively) for all symptoms collectively but ONLY ON THOSE SYMPTOMS which doctors manage to elicit from the patient or understand themselves from the patients body-language and other parameters. WHAT HAPPENS when doctors don't get enough or don't understand / recognise symptoms. Simple, Doctors don't prescribe on those symptoms. WHAT DO forum-doctors do here. Exactly the above i.e. "THIS FOR THAT".

Consider the above explanation vis-a-vis when prescribing for Dumb or Deaf or Blind patients. OR even for while prescribing for Animals or Birds. Hope you are able to do all the this type of homeopathic prescribing.

With your reading glasses on, please read the following real carefully "Information given in this forum is given by way of exchange of views only ...... " NOW GO TO THE END OF THIS PAGE AND READ THE "IMPORTANT" abchomeopathy notice / disclaimer, part of which I have re-produced above.

HOWEVER, my question to you to context to your above question is : WHO are the Classical Homeopaths on this forum, whom you are non-stop ridiculing.
 
Nesha-India last decade
Is Suresh a doctor? A homeopathic doctor? Strange he says he doesn't know the Organon. And then suffers memory loss or recall (heaven knows with this person) and brings up the Organon immediately after!
Please, less of insinuations and vague whispering - do inform us on how the "judiciary showed the correct place of the so-called classical homeopaths by putting them on their fours, drooling and panting." Your turn of phrase itself shows a hostility towards 'classical' (but somehow not classical, the better to mock you, my dear!) homeopaths. If I had to guess, I would say 'dr. suresh' is a frustrated man, venting his ire at those who practice diligently, rather than conveniently.
"As I have said earlier, the so called classical homoeopathists are surviving only by prescribing these over the counter tonics etc; and if these companies were to be closed for making these tonics etc, and asked to make only Hahnemannian drugs, they (the manufacturer’s) will all close down in a month." Does this bit of nonsense make any sense to anyone?
Why should anyone bother to find "one ‘patriotic’ homoeopath from Kerala state to help you to get this well known person using Carcinocin for diagnostic oncology? Only one member from the state to represent at the highest level in homoeopathic board in this country? Alternatively you can hire the services of Holmes S." Put your money where your rather big mouth is and do your own work - unless you are making up a lot of your unconvincing examples, what prevents you from coming out with it?
So much balderdash. This is not a debate on the part of 'dr. suresh'. This is some kind of ego-stroking exercise in attacking God know exactly whom or what, from the safety of the anonymity the internet.
And so, 'dr.suresh', please do tell, the internet wasn't around at the time of Hahnemann either, so is prescribing over the net non-classical because it isn't mentioned in the Organon? Tools are different from principles - if you can understand that.
 
homlee last decade

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