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Is this a right remedy? - Saccharum officinale (Sacc)

Hello,

I have a 3 year 6 months old daughter who has autism. I did cease therapy detox for the past 4 months and she was responding well to it the only problem was her detox reaction was so high. She is not taking anything right now. Our doctor is on vaccation for a month or so. And we have lot of symptoms like this.

24/7 she is clinging to me like a glue.
she wants me to carry her or she sits only in my lap all the time.
She craves for lots of sugar
Her mood keeps changing every 5 minutes.
She cries even if she doesn't see me next to her while sleeping. She sleeps only with me. Hugging me tightly.
Putting everything in mouth
More aggressive, gets more anger
Easily frustrated if her things are not done.
Throws everything on the floor
Only eats repeated food.

These were pointing to Saccharum officinale
(Sacc)when i checked all kids symptoms.

I am desperate for help. I already ordered the medicine boron Saccharum officinale 30c and 200c. But i don't know how to give her (dosage).


Can someone please tell me how much i should give her and for how long. Or if you think its wrong can u please suggest me something.

Thanks a lot.
[message edited by PJ5791 on Sat, 12 Jul 2014 16:45:43 BST]
 
  PJ5791 on 2014-07-12
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
If you want to work with someone on here, you have to let
them take the entire case and take over from your other
homeopath.

I assume your homeopath on vacation gave her a last remedy
and advice before he/she left?

If you want to try the Saccharin then start with a 30c dose,
mix 3 pills in a quarter cup of water and give her one tsp.
Then observe. If she aggravates and then seems better,
do not give more until she goes backwards. Same thing
if she starts to just feel better. Do not give more unless she
relapses.

You can try up to 3 doses to see if there is any reaction-
I would do this, dose one morning, if nothing, then dose
two evening, if nothing then dose three the next morning.

If nothing goes on, then the remedy is not right.

Regards,

Simone717
 
simone717 9 years ago
Thank you so much Simone. I will do as per your instruction and will keep you posted.

My homeopath always thinks my daughter has detox whenever i report her with aggressive behaviour. I really wanted to help my daughter as everyday is a battle zone. It affects her life as well as others. Things are getting worst day by day. I don't want to wait for a month until the doctor returns.
[message edited by PJ5791 on Sat, 12 Jul 2014 21:42:34 BST]
 
PJ5791 9 years ago
Simone,

Is this different medicine?

Saccharum album 30C

My daughter also has lot of bet wetting, her teeth are rotting (she lost 4 front teeth already). She likes only warm food,No socializing, Not interested in any toys, always wanted to run without any destination, no fear of danger, not able to understand any directions.

Good eye contact, turns 50% when her name is called after dtap detox. Our initial plan is to do tylenol detox after our doctor returns from her vacation.
[message edited by PJ5791 on Sat, 12 Jul 2014 22:15:42 BST]
 
PJ5791 9 years ago
If you want someone to look at this differently, post again
and ask for Rishimba in your headline. He is a homeopathic
Dr. and has done autism cases. Or write to him at
Vital.Force At yahoo dot com
[message edited by simone717 on Sun, 13 Jul 2014 06:42:33 BST]
 
simone717 9 years ago
Sure. Thanks a lot. I will actually give the first dose as soon as i get and also parallelly i will try to email the person whom you had mentioned.

I will also keep you posted. Thank a lot. You have no idea how much rough time i am having at home with my daughter right now. She is extreme cranky. Feeding has become a war zone these days. Even she stopped eating her regular food. Going completely crazy.
 
PJ5791 9 years ago
Saccharum album and Saccharum officinale are the same remedy, just different names.

You are running a risk trying to treat him yourself without any training or experience with chronic prescribing. Remedies are not safe, and you could create more problems. Just a warning.

If the reaction to the remedies is too great, then dosage needs to be adjusted. How are the medicines being given to her by this doctor? There is no such thing as 'detox' in homoeopathy - there is the aggravation, there is the healing crisis, and there is the cure. What does he/she mean by 'detox'?

There isn't any way to know if you are picking out the right symptoms, or interpreting them in the way we need in homoeopathy, but I did a quick repertory analysis of what you gave here.

Desire to be carried
Clinging to mother
Desire sugar
Fear night when alone
Throwing things away
Anger from contradiction
Moods changeable
Nocturnal Enuresis
Teeth caries in children
Desires warm food
Desire to run
Fearless

This gives us Arsenicum as the highest ranking remedy, showing for almost every symptom.

The second tier of similarity has Silicea, Lycopodium, Sulphur, Kali-carb, Calc, Stram, Phos, Merc and Thuja in it.

The third tier contains Bryonina, Carb-veg, Nat-mur.

Saccharum is in the fourth tier of similarity only - along with Ignatia, Pulsatilla, Chamomilla, Causticum, Belladonna, Aconite, Opium, Tuberculinum, Gelsemium.

Have the remedies in the highest and second tiers been tried at all?
[message edited by Evocationer on Sun, 13 Jul 2014 01:55:53 BST]
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
Thank you Evocationer.

In my daughter's case we are doing Cease therapy. What the doctor does is she is giving nodose to detox all the vaccination that my daughter received. Initially we finished 2 rounds of DTAP and then for 1 month she gave carcinosin. Then again we did 5 weeks hep B. That was very rough for her. Then we tried carcinosin to calm her for 2 weeks.

Major problem with my daughter is sugar craving. This is the highest problem. My daughter has only 3 types of food (applesauce with gerber infant brown rice cereal and water for breakfast, then mango sauce with the same for lunch and banana with the same cereal for dinner). Before all these issues, she was in table food and now she went back after she got autism. Her issue started within 2 hours of the vaccination at 17 months. She lost memory and speech immediately. From 20 months i am struggling with her now. She is 43 months now.

I wanted to fix her food. If i achieve that other things will come into allignment. Every doctors with whom i consulted said the same but my daughter won't eat anything other than sugar. That is the main reason i wanted to give Saccharum. From what i read and what other mothers reported me (everyone) said that their kids stopped sugary food after taking saccharum.

Two weeks my daughter completely stopped eating food and not even water. That is when i panicked and asked her doctor and she prescribed Silicea. I gave her from monday till thursday (2 pellets everyday). And she started eating again her same old food. But from morning again same issues. She is constipated from yesterday and very gassy and eventually cranky. Her doctor is not reachable now.

Even if she was around all she used to say is 'Leave her alone, she is detoxing'. This line i heard million times from her doctor. Last time when we gave her heb p nodose, my daughter got rash all over her body. She was sctraching badly and started bleeding. I called the doctor and her doctor said ' Leave her alone. Its good. HEr body need to heal on its own'. How can i see my daughter bleeding? I am so confused at this point whether should i continue with the doctor or not. I really respect her but i am not able to see my daughter suffer like a worm infront of my eyes.

What should i do?
[message edited by PJ5791 on Sun, 13 Jul 2014 02:52:09 BST]
 
PJ5791 9 years ago
Yes I know CEASE - useful in certain situations like Autism. Dr. Smits did use 'constitutional' remedies as well as part of that process though, and in fact said it was necessary to cure the children with autism. Isopathic medicines (made from vaccines or antibiotics and such) act to remove the specific damage, while the general health is changed with the use of proper Homoeopathic medicines.

It takes a very experienced homoeopath to be able to integrate CEASE and traditional homoeopathy.

No part of the treatment should be 'rough' for the patient. Something is not being done right if that is the case. The internal imbalance may move outwards (in fact should do so) as part of the curative process, but this can be moderated to ensure it is not too difficult for them. I understand Dr. Smits termed this 'detox' but I feel this was unfortunate, as that word is misused across many different therapies. It is still part of the homoeopathic concept of 'Direction of Cure' and is simply the establishing of an external symptom to relieve the internal pressure which is the chronic disease. Genuine cure will often do this, no matter what system is being used.

Just back to your query though, I do not believe you should try to be directly treating one symptom like a sugar craving. That is not where treatment is directed in homoeopathy. The disordered vital force is causing that craving, so it must be treated not the symptom arising from it. You run a risk of suppressing the symptom isolating it that way and causing something worse to happen, perhaps even creating another blockage in her path to cure.

It is VERY important not to fall into the trap of treating 'this symptom with that remedy', because this leads to the same place orthodox medicine leads us, and that can have dire consequences.

If you do not have someone to continue the CEASE therapy for you, then you can only fall back to traditional homoeopathic prescribing. I do not believe Saccharum covers the case as adequately as the other remedies I mentioned, but I am also not trying to achieve specific goals like this CEASE therapist is doing.

So based on the symptoms I would probably go with Arsenicum, but the real question is do you wish to interfere with whatever the other practitioner has achieved?

Have they achieved anything yet?
[message edited by Evocationer on Sun, 13 Jul 2014 03:12:45 BST]
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
I totally agree with you. I am not against my cease therapist but i don't know how to stop her eating her sugar. Even my therapist is not too sure. She wanted us to follow gluten free diet that is also not happening. I tried not giving her any food with a hope that after starving few minutes she will eat our food but my daughter was so stubborn.

I like my doctor the only problem is she is not listening to what we say. Every appointment whenever i take my daughter, my doctor opens a book and ask me few symptoms and then gives medicines. After trying 1 week if my daughter has severe reaction, she will tell us to stop it. Then give carcinosin again. This is how we did dtap 2 rounds. But carcinocin helped my daughter lot. WE got more focus, attention, very friendly with us, even her sensory issues were reduced. She was very coperative, calm etc.But as soon as we gave her hep b detox ...oh my god..literally she behaved as if she got some zombie...Totally uncontrollable..such as head banging, hand flapping , nonstop circling, walking on toes, saying same word again and again like a parrot. Stopped even drinking water. Only that time i panicked. After 4 days i called the doctor and took her again for an emergency visit. We gave carcinocin for a week then we moved to sicilea. Now she is okay but still has some regression and also poor appetiete and her stomach is bloated, very gassy. From morning literally she is hunting for sugar..Very cranky.
 
PJ5791 9 years ago
Appointments should last 1-2 hours, at least until the practitioner knows the patient well enough to ask just a few questions.

This person is a proper homoeopath as well aren't they?
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
That is what she told me. Even sometimes i get that doubt. LOL. But this doctor seems to get diverted lot. We go there, i will start with her symptoms, then she will open her book, again ask me few more questions from the book, and then she will ask me what medicine we gave earlier and any changes reported. I will be telling her the history everytime and then she will give medicine for that month. And she will talk off the subject like her grandma or about her husband being treated by her. After few minutes, again i will bring her back to the subject. But the appointment will last for 1 hour. Then i will pay towards the end and come home. The only reason i was sticking with this doctor is she is doing cease therapy. I want to clear all the vaccination for my child asap.
 
PJ5791 9 years ago
It is hard to know how to judge this, but I think your concern about her being distracted is a valid one. That is a bad habit I used to work very hard to eliminate from any students I taught - keep taking the case until you have all the information - do NOT begin referring to the books until you have the whole picture and understand what to look at. A good homoeopath knows that the case must be taken well prior to any analysis.

If she is talking about herself during the consultation though, you have a problem. A serious one. This kind of distractibility can hamper anything of value being drawn out. I have to wonder why she is doing that? I can't imagine that inspires a lot of confidence from you.

Apart from those concerns, there is one other thing that bothers me about what may be happening here. I do know CEASE, how the program works and what the indications are for improvement, although I haven't had much opportunity to use it (so can't claim genuine experience with it).

When an Isopathic medicine (made from an offending drug) is given, there will usually be some kind of symptom or set of symptoms that arise - often a rash or discharge but it can be other things, preferably (for the best result) old symptoms that had vanished. However the important element of this reaction is that other more important symptoms, such as behaviour, intellect, emotional development and control etc., should begin to improve around the same time. Imagine it is like a vent, through which the underlying pressure of the internal disease is released. As it flows outwards (or manifests closer to the surface) you can see this pressure reduce, and improvement is seen. It doesn't happen later, it happens alongside the appearance of the symptoms.

Dr. Smits was very clear about this. I have read through many of his cases, and this is what you see. If this doesn't happen, then the wrong medicine has been chosen. Improvement must come from the 'detox'.

The worst way of using this method is what I call the 'lazy' one - where you just give everything the child has ever had, without trying to work out what they really need, or even if it is really working. Because our medicines can have serious side effects, safety of the patient must be kept uppermost in mind, and this method must not become mechanical - that is no thought given to how it is used, no intelligence used in making decisions. It is NOT true that every drug causes a blockage, but it IS true that every medicine can have side effects. CEASE must be used intelligently, and it must be combined with proper 'constitutional' treatment if you want to cure the autism.
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
Thank you so much for your wonderful explanation, Sir.

True, i am only upset because that doctor gets so much distraction during our consultation. I like her and do respect her. But the major problem is she is not listening to what the client says. First inorder to work with any client one must listen. All she does is ask me 4 questions from book and make her choice. So sometimes that freaks me out. In the last 5 months i have collected so many remedies and still we have not given to her. Everytime she gives us the packet and calls me again to stop it. Then again she will ask me to get a medicine from the local store and give it to her.

You are 100% correct. Let me explain you. First we gave her the DTAP vaccination detox. First 2 weeks we started with 30c, then 3rd & 4th week 200C, 5th and 6th week 1M, then 10M on 7th and 8th.

First two weeks not much. But as soon as we gave 200c, she had very high detox.

The following are the stages of my daughter's detox. Sometimes she will be able to recover in stage 1 but sometimes she goes till stage 3. Once she reaches stage 3 , I call her doctor immediately and keep her posted. We give her the remedy and allow her body to subside.

Stage 1:
Rash all over the body (Like prickly heat)
Diaper Rash
Constipation
Sleep disturbance
Slight Cold (Running Nose)
Self giggling

Stage: 2
Stage 1 symptoms +
Severe cold & Congestion
Stop eating
Cranky
Fever < 102
Hyper Active

Stage 3:
Stage 1 & 2 Symptoms +
Vomiting
High Fever > 103
Cough

I totally understand that in homeopathy treatment usually homeopath treat patients based on their current symptoms. So what we do after a severe detox. We stop the medicine allow the body to heal on its own before we proceed.

Likewise we did 2 rounds of DTAP, then 1 whole month we gave her carcinocin weeks once.

After the two rounds of DTAP she did have regression. But not bad. And she improved lot while she was on Carcinosin. Everyone said she already recovered 50%. Then doctor thought of clearing her liver. So we started giving Hep B vaccination nodose.

Whatever we gained we lost. Again one major problem is her food habbits are totally bad. I am trying everything i could but she became the worst picky eater in the world. Some days she starve to death but won't even drink water. She is now 3 years and 6 months old but her weight is only 24 lbs. Very skinny with more sugar craving.

All her past doctors (biomedical, pediatrician and our current homeopath) everyone says she will 100% recover if we stop her sugar craving.. But no one is able to help her. Even i tried with feeding therapy. Everyone puts blame on me saying you try it. I did everything. Spanked her, hugged her, begged her, cried, praised her ..i don't know whatelse to do.

Is there any magic pill in homeopathy that can stop her sugar craving.

I am still waiting for miracle.
[message edited by PJ5791 on Mon, 14 Jul 2014 16:52:15 BST]
 
PJ5791 9 years ago
I can see she is reacting to the isopathic medicines, but did she improve at the same time? Did she improve at all by using these 'detoxing' medicines?

If not, then it is either being done incorrectly, or the approach is the wrong one for her.

I am extremely concerned by how this case is being treated. I do not think this is being done properly. Why is it that you have so much respect and trust in this homoeopath?

Something is wrong here. I would be worried about where this would lead if I were you. Just randomly giving remedies will not help your child, and actually can make her worse. Someone needs to put some order into this case.

What exactly is this person's qualifications? Do they have the CEASE certificate that is given to those practitioners that study the method?
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
Sir,

To answer your questions:

She did improve while she was taking carsinocin but not during detox time. After we finished the detox she had lot of regression then we gave her carcinosin to calm her down which actually helped her to improve. Then again after we started the detox, she regressed again.

The doctor said she is a certified cease therapist and she is the only one available in our area.

I have send you an email with the full details to your email address since I don't want to post in public.

Let me know your suggestions.

Thanks again.
[message edited by PJ5791 on Wed, 16 Jul 2014 13:04:31 BST]
 
PJ5791 9 years ago
Sir,

I am not sure whether you received my email.

Do we have any medicines for sensory issues in homeopathy?
[message edited by PJ5791 on Thu, 17 Jul 2014 22:14:10 BST]
 
PJ5791 9 years ago
PJ- you can look on Amy Lansky's site-
'The impossible Cure' and check out
the page where parents in usa ( if you
are in usa) and give feedback on homeopaths they have real results with.
 
simone717 9 years ago
hi Simone,

Yes, I am in GA. I got this doctor reference only through Amy Lansky. Sure will check with her again.

Thanks a lot.
 
PJ5791 9 years ago
Yes I have that email. I am downloading the files now and I will have a look over them.
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
I would be interested to actually see her full case though. There are a number indications for other remedies that have not been tried, but the information you have provided me is way too little for prescribing purposes. I assume these other homoeopaths gathered more information than this?

It doesn't look like any of these practitioners use the Sensation method of Dr. Rajan Sankaran, which focuses on gesture and movement. That might be an appropriate way to handle this kind of case, where her movements and actions are easily observed, even when her internal world cannot be described by her. Not sure how that could be done without seeing her person.

I have had a lot of patients with Asperger Syndrome, and they have done very well when I have used Sensation (movement, sound, gesture, posture, reaction) to find the remedy. I have to say it has more often than not been an Animal remedy that has solved those cases. In fact, I am trying to remember how many cases didn't need an animal remedy - it must have been a fairly small number.

I wonder if use of Sensation method with CEASE could improve the progress here? It is an interesting idea. I never had to use CEASE with the children I saw with Aspergers, but I suppose the problem was not so serious in such cases when they have not progressed all the way to Autism. Those children have been able to describe their inner world, which makes my job easier. Many of them were also affected by vaccines when you look at their history.

The issue I can see with the treatment so far is the fact that she improves for awhile and then regresses again, sometimes quite quickly. Sometimes this happens because she has been given a remedy that clearly was not good for her. Sometimes it has happened because she is not being constantly dosed.

From the perspective of homoeopathy, this implies a couple of things. This is only my opinion based on what you have told me, so take that for what it is worth.

One is that the remedies are only palliating her rather than curing. While it is true that some cases are complex, and can require a lot of work to find a stable point of improvement, the path to cure does not include regression. It may include pauses, stalling, obstacles - definitely. When a case begins to unravel and then reverse, it is mainly because of one important thing - what we call the Miasm in homoeopathy (the underlying inherited predisposition to disease) which is what vaccines activate. Vaccination often causes an intense Miasmatic response, often bringing to life problems that might not appear till late in life. In babies, this does something different than in adults - it interferes with their growth as a full human being. IN adults Miasmatic explosions are different (but also very serious).

So I suspect that one major problem here is that the Miasm is not being addressed alongside the symptoms. The CEASE therapy may or may not be valuable here, I cannot tell that, but I can see that alone it is encountering the same problem conventional homoeopathy encounters - if you do not change the soil in which diseases grow, they keep growing back.

It is the defining feature of an untreated Miasm to cause relapse despite apparent improvement on homoeopathic medicines. I understand that CEASE attempts to move the focus from the Miasm to the offending drug/vaccine. It is possible BOTH things need to be addressed as obstacles.

I need to see my next client, I will post more once I am done.
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
Also, can you list the exact improvements you have seen since starting CEASE, but only those ones that have stayed.
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
It's hard for me to be offering advice on this actually. I have been refreshing my knowledge of CEASE by reading through Dr. Smit's book and going over my notes, as well as searching through the internet for various cases given by homoeopaths as well as testimonials by patients/parents. I have to say the whole thing makes me uneasy...very uneasy.

This is going to be a bit of a long post - I am not sure how helpful this will be to you but I feel the need to express my feelings about it.

From my perspective (as well as a lot of other homoeopaths if you look at the controversy it has caused), CEASE breaks almost every rule and principle in homoeopathy. Every one of them. The reason I never used it, despite my respect for Dr. Smits, is that to do so would be to go against my own beliefs and experiences as a homoeopath. I would need to stop practicing homoeopathy to do it.

I try to be aware that inflexibility is an extreme disadvantage for a good homoeopath. Homoeopathy is as much an Art as it is a Science, and that means rules sometimes bend, and that the creativity of the practitioner can produce remarkable results for particular individuals. I try to be aware of any inflexibility I show around new ideas and methods in homoeopathy.

On the other hand, homoeopathy IS a Science, based on certain principles and observations, in fact based on natural laws. The Law of Similars is the defining feature of our medicine, and without it there is no homoeopathy - you are practicing something else unrelated to it. The medicine must produce the specific symptoms the patient has, but not just any symptoms, the most peculiar ones.

CEASE definitely is not homoeopathy. I think when you step into that therapy you are leaving behind all of our guides, indications, safety nets, and any of the confidence we might otherwise show. It doesn't use our rules, so how do we judge it - only on results?

I think there are many problems here - problems that can snowball into something worse (and I think they are). By breaking the rules to do CEASE, I think the rules then get broken for the 'homoeopathic' part of the treatment too. I can see that people would be tempted to do this. After all you have a renowned 'classical' homoeopath telling you that to cure patients you in fact MUST ignore those rules. I think he did give a lot of advice about how to integrate it properly into practice, and perhaps he was able to do that (since he created the system) and since he already had many years of experience as doing homoeopathy properly.

This isn't a problem unique to CEASE though. The Bannerji protocols have created a similar problem, as has even the Sensation method I mentioned earlier. People look for short-cuts, easy methods, ways to avoid hard work, ways to practice faster and with less time or effort from them, ways to produce products so they can sell them in a shop somewhere and go off on holiday!

So these methods, often laboriously constructed to be used in particular ways, start being used for everything, and without any real attention or care to how they are used, or even if they should be used in a particular situation. Give someone an inch, as they say ...

Homoeopathy has gone off in two directions (generally speaking). There has been an acknowledgement that homoeopathy as it has been for the last 150 years seems unable to deal with particular kinds of cases - perhaps it is the modern world and its effect on us. Chronic disease is more widespread, and Allopathic medicine has worked very hard to make so many people as difficult to cure as they can possibly be.

One direction has been to throw the old principles out the window and make up new ones. There are a lot of these. Many orthodox medical doctors prefer this direction. Obviously I am not a supporter of that direction.

The other is to maintain the principles but find new ways to apply them, to analyse cases, to explore new remedies, the organise the information, to understand chronic disease, and to understand the connection people have to the world and to the substances we make our remedies from. This is (obviously) the direction I prefer to see taken.

Nobody is going to deny there is a problem still with treating chronic diseases of certain types. Austism is tough, no doubt at all. Getting creative is a good thing.

Applying a method mechanically however, is not being creative, and I don't think that this is what Dr. Smits intended. But I think it is inevitable looking at how he presented the method. While he SAID you need to be flexible and judge each case on its own individual merits, what he SHOWED was a standardized mechanical method that might be applied without thought.

Since this is ending up such a long post I will enter this part and continue it later.
[message edited by Evocationer on Fri, 18 Jul 2014 05:35:45 BST]
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
While I was researching CEASE I found some interesting websites which discuss it, some support it and some don't. Of course the ones that already hate homoeopathy absolutely loathe CEASE but I wouldn't put much stock in those, even if (unfortunately) they make some good points.

I really liked this one by Tarah Evans:

http://www.homeopathyoftoronto.com/CEASE-Therapy-.html

Just to summarize some of the relevant points she makes:

1. Approximately 50% of ASD cases can be helped significantly with classical homeopathy alone, therefore a constitutional homeopathic remedy is always the first choice to begin in any CEASE case. It is only when the constitutional homeopthic remedy(ies), fail to act, or seem blocked, and the case is hindered from progress, that isopathic remedies (vaccine remedies) are then an option.


2. All isopathic remedies must be selected based on the presenting symptoms of the case; simply running down a vaccine list in order to clear any or all of them, is not suffice

3. If a vaccine remedy is used, then it must be the correct isopathic remedy for each vaccine given to a case, based on the actual manufacturer and lot number, in order to clear it properly and safely.


4. Detailed, accurate official vaccination records must be obtained per case, reviewed for accuracy and the symptoms that pertain to each assessed by the trained Homeopath very carefully.


5.You do not have to necessarily clear all the vaccines to progress a case.
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
Now for some information I found which is not so good. There is this website:

http://alexautismoysurecuperacion.wordpress.com/cease-therap....

I have to say, what really worries me seeing blogs like this, is all the confusion and mythology springing up from using (and not understanding) CEASE or homoeopathy or even health and disease in general.

It also worries me how it begins to resemble Allopathy - looking for some unseen underlying cause for the disease and applying a treatment against that. And how quickly and easily people accept this!

Homoeopaths have fought so long to help people to understand the true cause of disease, and what is happening when you look at these kind of discussions is people talking about things causing their disease with NO PROOF at all - Allopathy. This really concerns me. People being told that mercury or cadmium or something else is actually the cause of their illness and a medicine made out of it given, regardless of symptoms.

This is also a concerning post:

'We are currently detoxing the DTAP and we are having a dreadful time. Scarlett has been reacting from one pill of DTAP 10M for 5 weeks now and is showing no signs of stopping. We did the dilute method last week and all that did was top up the dose and make her crazy. We are currently seeing symptoms that I hav ‘nt seen for 2 years in her. It’s so disheartening. I just want it to stop. Scarlett is not sleeping, hyperactive, screaming and crying and is stemming so much she’s going to do herself some injury!
I really think the DTAP is a major issue with her. We just have to keep going.'

This poor parent has been brainwashed into thinking that harming her child is somehow necessary to heal her.

Very concerned.
[message edited by Evocationer on Fri, 18 Jul 2014 07:02:35 BST]
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
Thanks a lot. I think i am able to understand lot from your post.

I was also told by other parents / doctors that if we clear vaccination, my child will recover. Looks like i was also brainwashed. Again taking the same example of scarlet, my daughter had the same problem when we gave her hep b 200c vaccination detox. She was doing something unique which she never did before. Example head banging. My daughter never / ever did head banging when she got autism. But this new hep b detox created that. It took me sometime to control her now. Still she is doing one or two times but only on the pillow.

I was so confused from reading lot of articles posted by various parents saying cease recovered their kids. As a mother, i want my daughter back and i am doing everything i can do bring her back to this world.
 
PJ5791 9 years ago

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