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EBOLA seems to be spreading throughout the world

I am copying a few links to news reports from the world's Press to keep members of this Forum aware of the progress of EBOLA which seems to be spreading throughout the world.

Experimental drug likely saved Ebola patients
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/08/04/health/experimental-ebola-...

U.S. working on new screenings for Ebola but no travel ban
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/06/us-health-ebola-us...

US health providers expand their Ebola precautions
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/f5287413a3034c45ae1e2815bb585...

Spaniard has Ebola in 1st infection outside Africa
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_SPAIN_EBOLA?SITE=A...
 
  Joe De Livera on 2014-10-07
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
thanks for info.
 
homeo.mzp 9 years ago
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Joe De Livera 9 years ago
What remedies are good to have to hand. This is scaring me
 
pixie wood 9 years ago
Pixie,
this is not spread thru the air.

If a person has been exposed, they cannot give it
to another person unless they have active symptoms of it,
and you basically need to touch them. Chances of
getting this are near Zero.
 
simone717 9 years ago
I have read that it not being airborne is a lie.
my other fear is when the vaccine is ready this is what actually spreads the virus.
yes I am worring far to much but they are saying it could mutate to airborne thats if it isn't already.
there's an awful lot of Africans thar have had it if it's practically zero chance of getting it though.
I'm a worrier lol
 
pixie wood 9 years ago
The news media wants to create panic
so people will watch tv.

Yes, Africa is bad, but it is a cultural
education thing, bc they don't have
the co-operation of the people in
isolating cases, and telling the truth
about being in contact with others
who have it, they don't have treatment
centers set up out in the Bush and people
are on cots under tents etc so it is
a gigantic endeavour to contain this
there the right way and that is why the us is sending
troops there to help maintain order and treatment protocols.

It is Africa, not a first world continent.
[message edited by simone717 on Tue, 07 Oct 2014 20:50:13 BST]
 
simone717 9 years ago
Answering your question:
My first choice of a Homeopathic Remedy for use as a Prophylactic against EBOLA is:

Eupatorium Perfoliatum 200c in the Wet dose taken once daily.

I have used this remedy myself to ABORT THE COMMON COLD many times and have 100% proof that it will CURE DENGUE in under 6 hours on the basis of treating over 300 patients to whom I have given this remedy free of charge. Many Homeopaths in Sri Lanka have also copied my protocol and have reported that my protocol cures Dengue and have reported the same rate of success in treating Dengue.

I have no experience in treating Ebola for obvious reasons but for lack of any other Homeopathic remedy or Allopathic drug to treat a Virus infection, my first choice would be Eupatorium Perfoliatum 200c.

The Wet dose of any Homeopathic remedy is made as follows:

Order the remedy in the Ethanol or Alcohol pack also referred to as Liquid Dilution in a bottle preferably with a dropper arrangement.
Get a 500ml bottle of Spring Water from the nearest supermarket.
Pour out about 3cm of water from the bottle to leave some airspace.
Insert 3 drops of the remedy into the bottle and shake the bottle hard before you sip a capfull of the bottle or a large teaspoonful which is the dose.
Shaking the bottle hard is homeopathic succussion and this shaking must be done at least 6 times before sipping a capful of the bottle as prescribed.
 
Joe De Livera 9 years ago
Thanks simone. That's made me feel better.
Thank you Joe. I have heard nano silver is good too.
hoping this won't ever be needed though.
Thanks
 
pixie wood 9 years ago
For any epidemic, symptoms need to be collected in the local area from the people being affected, so that a 'genus' is established giving us some ideas for POSSIBLE remedies to help. The reality is that any of our medicines might be indicated for any patient, and someone has to be on hand to observe and prescribe on the basis of the actual symptoms.

Prophylaxis will only work on a local level, not a global one. Individual communities will respond differently to the same pathogen, based on environmental conditions, nutrition, history of the area, local hereditary factors, the season, the weather - all sorts of things. It is possible to respond to emergencies by creating a larger picture based on individual cases we see, then we can work quickly by prescribing within that small group of remedies.

As an individual yourself, with no genus established in your area, it would be nothing but guesses as to what you might need. The symptoms are the ONLY way to prescribe in homoeopathy if you want to see a result. Without symptoms, there is no reliability, and taking medicines without having symptoms runs the risk of creating provings/side effects and making yourself MORE susceptible to something else.
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
My first choice of a Homeopathic Remedy for use as a Prophylactic against EBOLA is:

Eupatorium Perfoliatum 200c in the Wet dose taken once daily.

I have used this remedy myself to ABORT THE COMMON COLD many times and have 100% proof that it will CURE DENGUE in under 6 hours on the basis of treating over 300 patients to whom I have given this remedy free of charge. Many Homeopaths in Sri Lanka have also copied my protocol and have reported that my protocol cures Dengue and have reported the same rate of success in treating Dengue.

I have no experience in treating Ebola for obvious reasons but for lack of any other Homeopathic remedy or Allopathic drug to treat a Virus infection, my first choice would be Eupatorium Perfoliatum 200c.

The Wet dose of any Homeopathic remedy is made as follows:

Order the remedy in the Ethanol or Alcohol pack also referred to as Liquid Dilution in a bottle preferably with a dropper arrangement.
Get a 500ml bottle of Spring Water from the nearest supermarket.
Pour out about 3cm of water from the bottle to leave some airspace.
Insert 3 drops of the remedy into the bottle and shake the bottle hard before you sip a capfull of the bottle or a large teaspoonful which is the dose.
Shaking the bottle hard is homeopathic succussion and this shaking must be done at least 6 times before sipping a capful of the bottle as prescribed.
 
Joe De Livera 9 years ago
Joe de Livera : One wet dose has to be taken DAILY???
 
rahman_hope 9 years ago
I hope you understand that my suggestion of Eupat Perf 200 in the Wet dose to prevent Ebola has not been tested and I am only basing my prescription on the basis that Ebola is a Virus borne disease and since Eupat P 200 has proved to CURE Dengue and also stop other Virus borne diseases like the Common Cold or a Fever which is usually caused by a Virus infection, it can be used to hopefully prevent Ebola when used as a Prophylactic.

If you live in any country like W Africa where Ebola is rampant you can certainly take a teaspoonful daily or even twice daily in the hope that it will build up your body's resistance to the Ebola Virus.

If you have been infected, there is very little that can save you.
 
Joe De Livera 9 years ago
If you live in Europe, is a daily dose of this homeopathic remedy recommended too, or is it better to take it weekly?
[message edited by rahman_hope on Mon, 20 Oct 2014 00:21:30 BST]
 
rahman_hope 9 years ago
Do not make the mistake of thinking such a treatment will protect you from HIV. There is no evidence to suggest it would do anything except harm you, harm which often happens when you take one of our medicines without any symptoms to justify it.
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
i fully agree with the idea of a single dose of eupatorium perfoliatum 200c for 4-5 days.
in my opinion this a passing phase & also some sort of sensationalism which help the media in increasing their rating.
proper cleanliness & avoidance of too much of personal physical contact is quite enough as prevention.
 
daktersaab 9 years ago
I agree - I am not convinced of what this disease really is. I have seen some things said about it which make me think it could be something else - I believe that Africa is used a testing ground by governments and pharmaceutical companies. I have to wonder what we are really seeing.

A true infectious illness with the kind of virility Ebola is meant to have should have spread into other countries by now I would have thought. I don't know, it just seems odd. I wonder if it is environmental, or some reaction to a vaccine or other medical treatment being trialed there, or even some kind of test of biochemical warefare.
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
To say I am surprised is an understatement, at Mr Kempson's callous attitude in dismissing Ebola in the supercilious manner that only he can justify:
'I have seen some things said about it which make me think it could be something else - I believe that Africa is used a testing ground by governments and pharmaceutical companies. I have to wonder what we are really seeing.'

He seems to imply that Ebola is a figment of the imagination of the WHO, CDC and the governments of the W African countries who are affected and are unable in some countries, to cope with this highly infectious disease, where patients are reported to be dying on a daily basis, at a rate the likes of which has never been encountered by humanity, before.

According to him:
'A true infectious illness with the kind of virility Ebola is meant to have should have spread into other countries by now I would have thought. I don't know, it just seems odd. I wonder if it is environmental, or some reaction to a vaccine or other medical treatment being trialed there, or even some kind of test of biochemical warefare.'

It seems to me that even today when the whole world is askance and
doing everything possible by taking measures at airports to screen visitors with a temperature, and doing everything possible to prevent this dreaded disease from visiting their country, he insists that Ebola must conform to his own pompous rules which he unilaterally specifies:
'For any epidemic, symptoms need to be collected in the local area from the people being affected, so that a 'genus' is established giving us some ideas for POSSIBLE remedies to help. The reality is that any of our medicines might be indicated for any patient, and someone has to be on hand to observe and prescribe on the basis of the actual symptoms. '

He must be dreaming in making this statement where he presumes that the disease must first strike the country when he will hopefully condescend to first establish the 'genus' prior to hopefully prescribing the remedy which in his mind must cure the patient. He fails to accept that Ebola is very fast acting KILLER DISEASE and about 70% of those afflicted, result in fatalities.

Note his reference to Homeopathic remedies as 'our medicines' in his statement above where he seems to imply that it is only he and he alone, who is the sole arbiter of these priceless Homeopathic remedies which I use in a manner that is non classical because I have sufficient proof that the 'Kempson formula' of using classical methods to diagnose and treat any disease does not have the same effectiveness of CURING the disease.

I am not alone in my using the 'This for That' formula as the Dr P Banerji Homeopathic Foundation has also been using a therapy parallel to mine in their treatment of over 1500 patients which they do on a daily basis in their clinics in Kolkata. When I mentioned this statistic to Mr Kempson on a previous occasion, he promptly faulted it by stating that their percentage of CURES was a dismal 20%. He did not accept that this 20% figure referred to the cures of C ancer patients and had no bearing on their rate of cures of other diseases.

Many hundreds of thousands of Homeopaths use my 'This for That' formula of treating the disease as they obviously would not otherwise be able to treat hundreds of patients, as they all do on a daily basis. They dare not admit that they follow the direct 'Joepathy' therapy that I have openly stated that I use, with outstanding results that can be accessed by anyone on my Website:
www.joedelivera.com

I cannot resist requesting Mr Kempson to put his money where his mouth is and offer his personal assistance to the Australian government to treat the patient suspected of Ebola in Queensland who was identified with a temperature after returning from a W African country where she was working as a nurse, a few days ago.

I suggested the use of Eupatorium Perfoliatum 200c in the Wet dose as a Prophylactic anti Ebola which is a virus borne disease as I have used it myself to stop an oncoming Cold many times over and have CURED many hundreds of cases positively diagnosed with Dengue which even today is at Epidemic levels in Sri Lanka. I discovered that this remedy will stop a fever and many parents have asked for and been given a bottle of this remedy in the Wet dose which they use whenever a child presents a Fever or a Cold. Many parents have confirmed that the fever or the cold respond in a few hours after the first dose of a teaspoonful of this remedy which they use as prescribed by me. As I have stated in my recommendation to use Eupat Perf 200 as a Prophylactic for Ebola, I have never had the occasion to test its efficacy but there is absolutely no danger in doing so today, for lack of any other prophylactic that may be identified for use for this purpose, at a later date.

His statement below seems pathetic:
'As an individual yourself, with no genus established in your area, it would be nothing but guesses as to what you might need. The symptoms are the ONLY way to prescribe in homoeopathy if you want to see a result. Without symptoms, there is no reliability, and taking medicines without having symptoms runs the risk of creating provings/side effects and making yourself MORE susceptible to something else.'

I consider the above as absolute errant rubbish and it gives an insight into Mr Kempson's mind-set where when he is faced with a reality, he insists on proceeding with his standard testing and prescribing procedure to which he has been obviously brainwashed, in refusing to accept that Ebola is a very fast acting KILLER disease and by the time he is done with identifying the 'genus' and treating his patient's 'symptoms', he (the patient) will be history.
 
Joe De Livera 9 years ago
Joe, Please try to express your thoughts more politely.

Simon
 
moderator 9 years ago
Simon

I am only using the same degree of politeness that David condescends to use when he addresses me in his many challenges to my therapy.

You may have observed that in the recent past I have avoided visiting your ABC Forum of which I have been one of the first members who joined it shortly after you established it, and of which I am now the oldest member today. I am doing so in order to avoid the unpleasantness that results since his return after his accident when he invariably challenges the therapy I prescribe to almost every patient, which in some cases in his pre-accident period, he persisted in doing even after the patient has been cured and has confirmed so. He also chooses to flagrantly deviate from facts in the mistaken notion that when an untruth is repeated many times, it attains the aura of a fact.

As a result many patients whom I have been treating on your Forum for many years in the past, have been deprived of the quick curative result of using my 'Joepathy' which is anathema to a classical homeopath like David. I have got sick and tired of answering his challenges on my therapy and he refuses to accept cold hard facts in confirmation of cures by the respective patients, merely because I do not subscribe to the classical formula of treatment where the patient is subjected to a barrage of multiple questions which are largely irrelevant and are posed to treat the patient in the classical manner by treating the 'Symptoms the patient presents with a single remedy'.

It is obvious that the large majority of practicing homeopaths who were classically trained in their Colleges do not follow this rule today as they would otherwise not be able to treat the many hundreds of patients they do in their daily practice. They do not openly confirm that they do not use the classical formula like I do on your Forum, and David has no quarrel with them as long as they pretend to follow the classical protocol.

I have often quoted the therapy that the Drs Banerji (Father and Son) use in their
PRASANTA BANERJI HOMEOPATHIC RESEARCH FOUNDATION to David but he has only responded in disparaging terms on their therapy.

I would like to copy their record of their therapy which is gaining the attention of the Homeopathic world and the suffering public as their record of success in the treatment of disease with special reference to C ancer has been unparalleled in Homeopathic history.

http://www.banerjiprotocols.in/

Homeopathy and Banerji Protocols

'In our practice we do not follow classical homeopathy by our more than 55 years of practice. We have developed protocols of treatment for almost all the diseases like conventional method specific medicines with fixed dilution for each disease. This protocol is now internationally known as 'The Banerji Protocols'. This treatment is very effective and easy to learn by the medical students. I have developed this protocol by examining thousands of cases for the last more than 55 years of my practice and seeing more than 350 to 400 cases daily free. In our clinic in Kolkata daily attendance of more than 1000 cases. By this process large numbers of patients can be seen in a shorter time thus it becomes the people’s medicines.

This treatment has attracted the eyes of the doctors and medical scientists of many countries. We have been invited by many countries such as Spain, Portugal, Japan, Canada, Buffalo-New York, Italy, Holland, Germany, USA etc.

All the classical homeopathy community has accepted our protocol as a very effective mode of treatment and they have started to using our protocols with great success.

The National C ancer Institute of USA, invited us to see the effectiveness of our treatment and after stringent scrutiny they have accepted our treatment as a very effective one and certified the cures.

Our protocol for Brain C ancer & Breast C ancer has been experimented by the scientist of the MD Anderson C ancer Centre, Houston, USA and found in vitro experiment that these medicines selectively kills C ancer cells but not the normal cells. Joint paper s by us and scientist, professor of cell biology and genetics has been published in International Journal of Oncology. Our work with National C ancer Institute, USA has been published in journal of Oncology Reports.

Now our treatment is used by patients are almost 80 countries in the world with great success.

Under invitation from Spain, Portugal, Royal Academy of Japan, USA, Roswell park C ancer centre at Buffalo, New York, Italy, Netherlands, Germany we have done workshops and teaching seminars and we received standing ovations in all the places.'

I was the first member of your ABC Forum to rebel against the age old Classical Protocol which I first used after spending some years in self study of Classical Homeopathy in my free time from my work as the CEO of my family owned business organization. I later added Radar Software to help me but soon discovered that the curative results were dismal in comparison to my own 'This for That' therapy which was once derisively labelled by the coterie of classical homeopaths on this and other Homeopathic Forums, as 'Joepathy'. I did feel that there was a tinge of jealousy in their harsh criticism as mine was by far, more effective in curing the patient's ailment in comparison to their classical therapy as prescribed by David et al, which in the majority of cases comprises a questionnaire of over 20+ questions which are largely irrelevant and which the patient is forced to answer in detail. The homeopath then prescribes the 'classical' remedy for the symptoms which he identifies from the top of his head, or in my case when I was using the classical formula with assistance from Radar software, and the poor suffering patient is kept waiting a few days to evaluate the response and later repeating the process many times over, usually without success.

In direct contrast my Joepathy, which is based on prescribing a remedy which had cured an ailment similar in nature to that presented by the patient and which I had stored on my computer, is prescribed, and it invariably results in a cure sometimes within hours, which is a matter of surprise to the classical sect who then proceed to vilify me and even warn the patient who is already cured of his ailment, of the impending danger of using my Joepathy.

This is reason why I established my own Website to share the cases that I had treated successfully with my Joepathy with confirmation from the respective patients and judging by the number of visitors recorded, it seems to be proving popular at around 400 hits per day. I am now able to use my Joepathy free of any interference from types like David and it is the patient who benefits from my therapy and if you care to visit it you may be impressed with the results. You will observe how grateful my patients are for having restored them back to health in a few days, or in some cases in hours, especially in the case of Babies who suffer from Reflux.


A good example of the therapy David promotes is embodied in his statement on Ebola which I quoted in my last post above and which I copy below:

'His statement below seems pathetic:
'As an individual yourself, with no genus established in your area, it would be nothing but guesses as to what you might need. The symptoms are the ONLY way to prescribe in homoeopathy if you want to see a result. Without symptoms, there is no reliability, and taking medicines without having symptoms runs the risk of creating provings/side effects and making yourself MORE susceptible to something else.'

My rejoinder to which you seem to object was:

'I consider the above as absolute errant rubbish and it gives an insight into Mr Kempson's mind-set where when he is faced with a reality, he insists on proceeding with his standard testing and prescribing procedure to which he has been obviously brainwashed, in refusing to accept that Ebola is a very fast acting KILLER disease and by the time he is done with identifying the 'genus' and treating his patient's 'symptoms', he (the patient) will be history.'


Joe
 
Joe De Livera 9 years ago
Joe, Please use words like 'I disagree with David', rather than emotive phrases like 'absolute errant rubbish' - it will help keep the debate on the facts, which is interesting to everybody, rather than personal insults, which nobody wants to read.

FYI, David didn't object to your post, an innocent from outside the debate said it was offputting.
 
moderator 9 years ago
There are many of us (including ME,Joe & David)who take the credit of CURING or HEALING many many sick people but the fact is that we all are ONLY prescribers in whatever the method or system that we are aware of & knowledgeable. And the fact is that there is only ONE healer, our dear God who heals everyone.

Instaed of going into all this sort of discussions let us just sincerely thank HIM to have given this opportunity to make us a medium of HIS HEALING PROCESS and seek His blessings!!!
 
daktersaab 9 years ago
Nice message Dr. Saab.

Always good to get the, I I I I, me me me
out of the way. There are many ways to heal. I like the prayer of
St. Francis.

Love your posts.

Best,

Simone
[message edited by simone717 on Sun, 26 Oct 2014 14:38:35 GMT]
 
simone717 9 years ago
Dear Simon,

Thanks. This is my favourite prayer also.
Warm regards, daktersaab
 
daktersaab 9 years ago
Hi Simone,

It was nice to read the prayer of St. Francis you copied and to know that you too are a deeply religious person like me and Daktersaab. It is very likely that we comprise a very rare group of people, who I believe have attained a higher plane in our philosophy of life where we like to help others with our knowledge of Homeopathy purely for the deep satisfaction that it gives us in curing the ailments of suffering humanity in the best way we can, which in my case is based on the research and experience that I have accumulated throughout the past 40+ years of exposure to Homeopathy.

It is unfortunate that some of those on this ABC Forum do still insist on the diktat of Hahnemann that it is only through the classical protocol that a patient can be cured, but I have proved otherwise and was delighted to learn a few years ago quite independently, that other qualified Homeopaths like the Drs. Banerji of Kolkata do also use the same protocol as I do, which I quoted in my post above on this thread.

As you are aware, I have not qualified in Homeopathy although I have studied the same textbooks that any homeopath has used to qualify and I did so as I was fascinated by this Science, which unfortunately has been distorted by so many 'teachers' that it has now reached a state of chaos where some of them believe that it is only they who are the arbiters of this healing art which must conform to the tenets of their classical 'faith' to which they were brainwashed during their studies in college, to qualify in this noble profession of healing.

I consider myself as fortunate in not having had to go through this classical mill as I too may not otherwise have been able to see the proverbial 'wood for the trees' and may have blundered along as I once did with the assistance of Radar software, in trying to help suffering humanity in the classical manner that others are doing with the very low level of success, as displayed on this ABC Forum.

I believe that it is essential that Humility is shown on the part of the Healers to accept facts as confirmed by patients who have been healed without the aid of the convoluted classical homeopathic protocol which you will see by reference to the cases on this Forum, does not seem to attain the same rate of cure recorded on my own Website using my standard 'Joepathy' protocol. I feel strongly that they should not engage in sheer verbosity with overtones of so called classical homeopathic concepts to prove their point, as the main reason why we members try to help suffering humanity on the ABC Homeopathy Forum and I, on my own Website is to HEAL suffering humanity and not waste time and energy unnecessarily in challenging each other to a debate as has occurred to me in the recent past, which made me decide to retire gracefully from the ABC of which I have been one of the first medical advisors since it was established by Simon Broadley and am now the oldest living survivor.

Joe
 
Joe De Livera 9 years ago
Dear Joe,

I do not believe I am in some rare group of people that have attained a higher plane-
I do believe that we are all brothers and sisters on this earth and we should help each other
in the best way we are able.

I have found when I am highly critical of a behavior- if I look at myself honestly-
I am doing the same thing they are doing. I am just unconscious about it. So when I want
to judge, that is a red flag to me, that I should find out where I am doing the same thing
and don't know it. We ALL do this, bc we are just imperfect humans here.
[message edited by simone717 on Sun, 26 Oct 2014 14:58:10 GMT]
 
simone717 9 years ago

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