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Article in Times of india ,, just for reference

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/science/Homeopathy-may-put-peoples-health-at-risk-Australian-report/articleshow/46550781.cms
 
  sanjydp75 on 2015-03-13
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
what i am saying is by personal experience:


Homeopathy work slowly the treatment for chronic disease is
like a snail traveling 10 km. it take time but with patience a patient can cure completely .But taking homeopathy medicine for that long can may create some other minor problem they also go away with time without any further medication for example:a typical case of rheumatism usually take 4-6 years(what i know) to cure completely but after taking medicine for so long.the person start sweat a lot, cannot withstand heat,etc(these symptoms go away in 2-3 year).
To avoid these kind of problem
homeopathy slowly increase the potency and decrease the dose.or sometime reducing the number of dose also help.But whatever can be done they still leave some side-effect.

If u see the same case(rheumatism) in allopathy the patient have to take penidure injection many doctor say patient have to take it for life time after having rheumatism whose side effect is tremendous.
[message edited by gaintrox on Fri, 13 Mar 2015 11:18:08 GMT]
 
gaintrox 9 years ago
gaintrox, I have my experience in getting treatment through homeopathy.Already,I got treatment by personally meeting a homeopath for about 2&1/2 year for my skin problem called Lichen Planus.But got no cure.They say Homeopathy works, but it does'nt.After watching the videos on youtube regarding homeopathy,I have lost entire hope in getting further treatment through homeopathy.What is the use of increasing or decreasing the potency of homeopathic dilutions when there is no medicine in these dilutions ?.It does'nt matter much if allopathy gives a lot of side effects.Those videos says Homeopathy Does'nt Work at all.Please go to the URL and read it by yourself,

www.1023.org.uk

Also, a video on youtube,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jqP_1beVXQ

Please note that I don't offend Homeopaths.Pl reply me
[message edited by abalaji on Fri, 13 Mar 2015 13:58:14 GMT]
 
abalaji 9 years ago
i watched the video : and i will say according to the lecture 50m medicine has no power it is equivalent to tap water.But if u give a 50m medicine u will observe the few improvement or may be few side effects .So, why people do not get the same effects from tap water.If people say anything they must prove it like in that video the person said homeopathy medicine are equal to tap water but u can see yourself that many case in this forum here is improvement and cure also in this forum.it cannot be because people heal without any medication.I admit it homeopathy have some limitation but every way of treatment have limitation.


whatever disease is the medication effectiveness depends of it selection of medicine which is depends on the perscriber .If a person have a headache and he is prescribed by a joint pain joint pain medicine it will definitely not work.

in homeopathy there are many medicine for same diseases it selection is depend on symptoms.A similar disease have many dissimilar symptoms.
I think u are from India ,If yes,did ur doctor tell u the name and potency of the medicine he gave u.

a broken Machine can be fixed but only by a proper mechanic and proper tools.
 
gaintrox 9 years ago
Dear Abalaji,

This Nobel prize winner -
has proved that there is new molecular structure and
energy signatures of substances at Very High dilutions. He could
prove this because we now have instruments Sensitive enough
to detect what is really going on.

Here is part of an article about this from the Huffington Post , an
American newspaper.

_________________________________________________________________________________________



Most clinical research conducted on homeopathic medicines that has been published in peer-review journals have shown positive clinical results,(3, 4) especially in the treatment of respiratory allergies (5, 6), influenza, (7) fibromyalgia, (8, 9) rheumatoid arthritis, (10) childhood diarrhea, (11) post-surgical abdominal surgery recovery, (12) attention deficit disorder, (13) and reduction in the side effects of conventional cncr treatments. (14) In addition to clinical trials, several hundred basic science studies have confirmed the biological activity of homeopathic medicines. One type of basic science trials, called in vitro studies, found 67 experiments (1/3 of them replications) and nearly 3/4 of all replications were positive. (15, 16)



In addition to the wide variety of basic science evidence and clinical research, further evidence for homeopathy resides in the fact that they gained widespread popularity in the U.S. and Europe during the 19th century due to the impressive results people experienced in the treatment of epidemics that raged during that time, including cholera, typhoid, yellow fever, scarlet fever, and influenza.

Montagnier,, asserted, "I can't say that homeopathy is right in everything. What I can say now is that the high dilutions (used in homeopathy) are right. High dilutions of something are not nothing. They are water structures which mimic the original molecules."

Here, Montagnier is making reference to his research that confirms one of the controversial features of homeopathic medicine that uses doses of substances that undergo sequential dilution with vigorous shaking in-between each dilution. Although it is common for modern-day scientists to assume that none of the original molecules remain in solution, Montagnier's research (and other of many of his colleagues) has verified that electromagnetic signals of the original medicine remains in the water and has dramatic biological effects.

Montagnier has just taken a new position at Jiaotong University in Shanghai, China (this university is often referred to as "China's MIT"), where he will work in a new institute bearing his name. This work focuses on a new scientific movement at the crossroads of physics, biology, and medicine: the phenomenon of electromagnetic waves produced by DNA in water. He and his team will study both the theoretical basis and the possible applications in medicine.

Montagnier's new research is investigating the electromagnetic waves that he says emanate from the highly diluted DNA of various pathogens. Montagnier asserts, "What we have found is that DNA produces structural changes in water, which persist at very high dilutions, and which lead to resonant electromagnetic signals that we can measure. Not all DNA produces signals that we can detect with our device. The high-intensity signals come from bacterial and viral DNA."

Montagnier affirms that these new observations will lead to novel treatments for many common chronic diseases, including but not limited to autism, Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's disease, and multiple sclerosis.

Montagnier first wrote about his findings in 2009, (17) and then, in mid-2010, he spoke at a prestigious meeting of fellow Nobelists where he expressed interest in homeopathy and the implications of this system of medicine. (18)
 
simone717 9 years ago
Dr.Simone,
After reading your post about the presence of new water molecular structures and its energy composition at extreme dilutions,it makes me to think that Homeopathy really works.I also found some research topic on the net saying that Homeopathy is Nano-Medicine.

Thanks.
 
abalaji 9 years ago
Dr.Gaintrox,

I stay in chennai and for the last 2&1/2 years I got treatment through homeopathy but obtained no cure.
You asked me about the homeopath who I met in Chennai.

He is Dr.N.Srinivasan who is 77 years old and has over 40 years of experience in this field and is also my relative.He still works at Bahola Agency,No 17, Ramanathan Street, T.Nagar,Chennai-600017.The website is www.bahola.in

I have a lot of prescriptions given by him and I can't name all those medicines alongwith their potencies since I am unable to clearly read his handwritings.I think only his pharmacists can understand it.But I can name some medicines given by him which are,

1. Sulphur 30,Sulphur 200,Sulphur 1M

2. Bacillinum 200,1M

3. Natrum Muriaticum 200c

4. Skinto

5. Psorinum 0/1 and Lyco 0/1

6. Kali phos tablets

and so many things like that.

Please reply me.

Thanks..
[message edited by abalaji on Mon, 16 Mar 2015 10:29:38 GMT]
 
abalaji 9 years ago
few more question just to check the doc knowledge after that i will give my opinion on the treatment ,because there are many doctor who have lot of experience but never follow the basics

1-usually how many medicine he use to give at a time?

2-most imp. one which draw my interest: how many dose have he suggested of Bacillinum 200c or 1m( how many dose just give approximate number of doses which u think u have taken ) ?
 
gaintrox 9 years ago
Dr.Gaintrox,
Dr.N.Srinivasan is Economist by profession and he holds a Doctorate degree also.But he learned Homeopathy from some reknowned Homeopaths in Tamil Nadu and got certified by them as a Registered Homeopathic Practitioner.He is well known to the people in areas like Mambalam,T.Nagar,Saidapet in chennai.

I forgot to mention you that I got treatment from him for my Lipoma problem also.Neither Lichen Planus nor Lipoma problem got cured.For Lipoma, he gave Calc.Fluor 6x,12x,30x etc.,.Why I say all these things to you is I don't know which medicine is for what problem.

1. Each time of my visit to see him,he prescribe medicine having potency of 200c or 1M.He gives it as powder dose and asks the patient to take 1 Dose for a period of 15 Days.Every 15 days I used to meet him and he sees my leg having Lichen Planus and based on that he gives some other medicines either having 200c or 1M potencies.

2. Atlast before I quit the treatment,he prescribed Bacillinum 200 to be taken once in 15 days and I took it for a month.It comes 2 doses in a month.Afterwards,he prescribed Bacillinum 1M just 1 Dose in 15 days.

After that I did'nt go for the treatment.

It's unfortunate that Homeopathy did not work.
Waiting for your reply.
[message edited by abalaji on Mon, 16 Mar 2015 15:16:30 GMT]
 
abalaji 9 years ago
Dr.Gaintrox,
After quitting the treatment,I went to Homeocare International,Positive Homeopathy,Dr.Batra for this problem.All of them wished to provide me the treatment and asked a lot of money,but refused to give prescriptions.So, I refused to get treatment from them because of this.Not only them,but 99 % of Homeopaths in chennai don't give prescriptions to their patients.I think this is happening all over India.If prescriptions are asked, they will say only allopathic doctors would give prescriptions whereas Homeopaths won't.So, patients don't have any right to know what medicine is that Homeopath is giving for which problem.It is a very sad thing to know this from Homeopaths.

May I know where are you talking from ?
[message edited by abalaji on Mon, 16 Mar 2015 14:47:51 GMT]
 
abalaji 9 years ago
first of all changing medicine frequently medicine of power 1m is not a good practices of homeopathy reckless prescription .however
Lichen Planus is a stubborn disease but with care for this long treatment some improvement have to be observed.The selection of medicine of doctor was fine but still not able to do the accurate prescription because of his lack of knowledge and he did not give enough time to see one medicine proper effect(be truthful even i am not have enough ability till now to cure it and give up on my first case after around 3 month but i have suggested the patient a old geezer homeopath(he was very old and died after few years) who able to cure it.So by a good homeopath u will able to cure no doubts about it ).
If u want to continue homeopathy first thing u do take a brake for a one month after that consult another doctor .If u want to know about a good doctor in Chennai simone717 will help u.And If u want help from someone from this forum evocationer ,Rishimba,fitness may help u.

take care.
 
gaintrox 9 years ago
Dear Abataji,

I would refuse to go to anyone who won't give
the prescription- and some clinics are run
like a fast food franchise to make the most money
possible. Good you did not do that, and it is always
wise to google "reviews" of people, bc you will
find quite a few patients who did not have a good
experience

____________ Below is info on a Kerala Dr who has cured cases of this____

Dr Muhammed Rafeeque (Contact Advertiser)

0484 4044864,

Peruvaram Road, North paravur


Blog: http:// www.familyhomoeopathy.com/blog

http://www.homeopathyworldcommunity.com/.../a-case-of-lichen.... by-homeopathy

When you click on the link above- the exact page with images won't show up-
you will get a page- and on right, it says "Search site" just put in
Lichen planus in that box and then you will see the link, Cases of lichen
planus by Dr. Rafeeque.

I think, like Gaintrox said, it is good to go to
someone who has had success in treating this.

I can't find a website for the above Dr.'s clinic,
but he is an advisor for the homeopathyworldcommunity


I know he is not in your area, but I would call him
or email him and perhaps you can work with him
via email or skype. And if not, maybe he can
give you a suggestion of who to go to in Chennai.
[message edited by simone717 on Mon, 16 Mar 2015 16:12:09 GMT]
 
simone717 9 years ago
after the previous post i got some work and i left. sorry for that.

i lived in Bangalore that much i can say.I am not a professional homeopath so,i do not deserve the dr. before my user name .My grandfather is a homeopath from whom and through his books i learn homeopathy and i use to cure people around me) and join this forum few month before.

The facts "99 % of Homeopaths
don't give prescriptions to their patients" is all over the India.They afraid that the patient might not change the doctor and curbed their income that's why even i hates them.However their are very few homeopaths who say "if u want to change the doctor i will give u all details if u show the written proof from the new doc.'according to them the patient will take medicine from prescription recklessly that why they want to keep the information hidden .

These money thirsty people are not less that a blood thirsty beast.In one of my post(http://abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/465206/) i wrote how reckless they are.And i use to say people find a professional homeopath who let u know which medicine he is using because of which i am always at top at hated list
made by homeopaths in cites or town where i lived .(that's why i have fake names in internet for homeopathy).

Ur decision is right not choosing Dr.Btra.U have no idea where there medicine work or not.
U will able to find a good doctor.Do not worry :).
 
gaintrox 9 years ago
dr.gaintrox, Yes.Exactly what you said is correct on this.If a person could speak the truth and if that is not liked by others they show you only dislikes.Hence, you topped the hated list made by homeopaths.
[message edited by abalaji on Mon, 23 Mar 2015 07:55:46 GMT]
 
abalaji 9 years ago
If treatment is given to a patient without prescriptions,how can the patient rely upon the homeopath's treatment.Also,it is illegal to have treatment like this.Is it simply to believe that the treatment would end with Success.No problem if success is met with the treatment.But if the treatment gets Failed,who can be held responsible for this failed treatment.How to judge those results without having the prescriptions. As you have said, I'll be able to find out a good doctor.

Thanks A Lot
[message edited by abalaji on Mon, 23 Mar 2015 07:59:24 GMT]
 
abalaji 9 years ago
Ask the doctor that if at any time necessary if u need to change the city will they give the prescription?
 
gaintrox 9 years ago
Right
 
abalaji 9 years ago
Is it possible to get a complete cure in homeopathy for the dreadly diseases like Leukemia,AIDS etc.,.I asked you this question just to know about possibilities of cure in homeopathy for these diseases and I had seen some homeopaths say that it can be cured.
 
abalaji 9 years ago
My friend then 24 had menstrual cycles problem. No periods at all in a year. At that time I was getting treatment of the homeo doctor for hair fall at the sri ramakrishna mission in Hyderabad ( charitable institution by swami vivekananda).
At the same time because didn't want to go to charitable institution because it's meant for under privileged and charge is nothing just 1 rupee.

We went to batra's clinic he asked to pay 1300 rupees upfront. Then only he will treat.

We decided to donate money there and continued at the charitable institution. Long story short my friend was cured in about an year.

Allopathy hormone treatment had made her very fat at that age. And she stopped taking that treatment.

She lost all that weight too in a short span of time.

We never asked for prescription because that's how it is in India. Right from my childhood I don't know what homeo meds I have used..
 
baba108 9 years ago
Abalaji,

Please google Jeremy Scherr,
aids Africa and see his site.
He is doing a lot of cures of Aids in Africa with regular prescribing.

And google, Peter Chappell, Harry vander Zee about their
remedies for Aids-they are using a genus epidemic remedy for Aids.

For Leukemia, cncr etc google
http://www.pbhrfindia.org, 3 generations using homeopathic
meds specific for diseases-these MD's are known worldwide and they
share their database with MD Anderson usa hospital - largest cncr
hospital in USA. People in India have to go to the clinic or use
regular mail, outside of India you can work online with them and
they treat many people for free. I don't know the statistics on
Leuk/but they are very well known for incurable brain tumours.

You can goggle Dr. Andre Saine for MS-.
 
simone717 9 years ago
dear Abalaji,

my opnion: homeopathy medicine is a magnificent treatment it has cure many deadly disease but still it has some limitation and it has been ineffective against some deadly disease.

And the cure of disease is also depend on the prescriber and the patient because,every one body is different even for same disease and same symtops the medicine may not work same for different persons. Pescribers knowledge play a important to role in treatment .SO,if a doctor can cure Aids for one person we cannot sure that all homeopaths have ability to cure aids .
[message edited by gaintrox on Sat, 28 Mar 2015 06:49:11 GMT]
 
gaintrox 9 years ago
baba108, Since my childhood I have never gone for a Homeopathic treatment except for Lichen Planus.I originally got the treatment from Allopathy some 10 years ago and it got controlled very much.I can say Allopathic treatment is 90 % effective and the remaining 10 % they are unable to cure it and only to control it.But I chose Homeopathy to get a complete cure and I got surprised to note that no homeopaths are willing to give the prescriptions for the treatment later. Infact no one should ask the homeopaths for the prescriptions because they have to give it to the patients and issuing prescriptions to the patients forms a main part of their work.So,I need not ask them for prescription since they have to give it.If they are unwilling to give it, should we ask them to give it.So, how to have trust on their treatment ?.You said that you have not asked for prescriptions from Homeopaths since your childhood and yet you used Homeo meds without even knowing it's name.It is only surprising to me on hearing this from you and also it is unacceptable.It looks very strange.It seems to me that only desperate people seeking for a cure will do all these kind of things inorder to get a cure and this benefited the homeopaths very much.But I would'nt go to any one who refuses giving me a prescription and give me anything to eat.I know no one could FOOL me this way.Not giving prescriptions has become a practice in India,so no people could ask for it.Also,I want to know why did'nt you ask them even for once for prescriptions.

Thanks..

Balaji.A
[message edited by abalaji on Thu, 02 Apr 2015 16:24:34 BST]
 
abalaji 9 years ago
baba108, Waiting for you reply.
 
abalaji 9 years ago

[message deleted by abalaji on Thu, 02 Apr 2015 21:03:43 BST]
 
abalaji 9 years ago
Dr.s, I once contacted one Homeopathic clinic some 3 months ago on phone and the receptionist there told me that the Homeopath would give me treatment first and once the treatment and everything gets over he could issue me the prescriptions.What is your opinion on this.May I get this kind of treatment or not ?
[message edited by abalaji on Fri, 03 Apr 2015 17:14:16 BST]
 
abalaji 9 years ago
Dear Abalajii,

Why don't you put your case on here where you
can know what is going on? I would not take
anything blindly. I know people who have
done online treatment with homeopaths in India
that say they do classical treatment, one remedy at a time. They wanted to send the patient
the medicine, the patient wanted to buy
the medicine where he was. It turns out he
was having to buy 8 to 10 medicines a month. and take
two at different times in the day and then switch to another 2 after a week and so on. Basically
every remedy listed that had his problem in
it was prescribed.He would never have known
and it certainly was not classical homeopathy or
chronic prescribing according to Hahnemann.

Regards,

Simone
 
simone717 9 years ago

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