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15 Month Old Wakes Every 1 or 2 Hours
I hope I can get some help for my son. He just turned 15 months today but still wakes every 1 or 2 hours at night crying for me. While he is teething (1st tooth at 13 months) I don't think this is the root of the problem because he usually calms down when he sees me enter his room. He has never been a great sleeper and falls asleep when rocked or just held by me. I have tried a very modified version of crying it out within the last 3 weeks but he only slept 7 hours in a row twice and that happenened the 2nd and 3rd nights. Since then, he wakes up crying every 1-2 hours. Up until recently I would just sleep on the floor in his room and pick him up immediately, but that was just wearing me out and I really need to get him to sleep more and on his own. He wakes, looks for me and when he doesn't see me freaks out. Now I try not to pick him up from the crib and just pat him there, but most times he just resists that for upwards of 30-60 minutes. He is also a bit clingy to me during the day and gets upset when he sees me leave the room. I took him to a homeopath in November and she 1st put him on pulsatilla, then phosphorus, then stramonium and lastly chamomilla. None of it has worked. All except chamomilla were given to him while I still slept with him. He is a happy, friendly baby during the day. It just seems like he is afraid of being alone, especially at night. He was born at 35 weeks and weighed less than 3 pounds because of IUGR. He was in NICU for 3 weeks in order to gain the necessary weight and was only treated for jaundice. Any help would be greatly appreciated.cucu111 on 2006-03-01
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My first recommendation is THUJA 200 1 dose per day for a week.
Report the positive outcome.
Pranam,
Nikhil Shah
Report the positive outcome.
Pranam,
Nikhil Shah
asknikhil last decade
What makes you recommend THUJA 200 as opposed to any other remedy?
cucu111 last decade
please continue chamomilla 6c three times in a day and report me after three days. It will give you quick result in a day.
dr.deoshlok sharma
dr.deoshlok sharma
♡ deoshlok last decade
NO THUJA-- this chamomilla case as mentioned but use 30c potency single dose only and give to mother also if child is being breast fed ...
if breast fed --mother and child are to avoid all acidic foods and drinks--may find causation here...in diet
acidic food and drinks = coffee;tea;alcoholic beverages;all carbonated soft drinks;vinegar ;fruits and fruit juices/drinks;tomatoes;...etc
simplify diet
single dose (2 pellets) chamomilla 30c--mother (only if breast feeding) and child
if breast fed --mother and child are to avoid all acidic foods and drinks--may find causation here...in diet
acidic food and drinks = coffee;tea;alcoholic beverages;all carbonated soft drinks;vinegar ;fruits and fruit juices/drinks;tomatoes;...etc
simplify diet
single dose (2 pellets) chamomilla 30c--mother (only if breast feeding) and child
♡ John Stanton last decade
P.S. if chamomilla gives NO good response (will see good soon -shown by good sleep of child),then again breast feeding need be addressed here--could be mother's state fo health that is questionable
then need her current symptomology and info...may be simple as diet as mentioned...
may need camph or nux-v to clear all remedies used and start again...but do as mentioned with chamomilla and report back ....tell whether child recieves breast feedings or not?..and other info concerning mother if child is breast fed.....
then need her current symptomology and info...may be simple as diet as mentioned...
may need camph or nux-v to clear all remedies used and start again...but do as mentioned with chamomilla and report back ....tell whether child recieves breast feedings or not?..and other info concerning mother if child is breast fed.....
♡ John Stanton last decade
My son is no longer breastfed. He was on alimentum until he turned 1 year at which point I switched him to whole milk. He was fine with that for about 2 months until he really started teething, at which point he started to refuse to drink 2 of the 3 bottles I gave him daily. He will only drink about 9 ounces of whole milk when he first wakes up. He also does not want to eat cheese or yogurt so his doctor suggested giving him orange juice with calcium and vitamin d which he does seem to like. He is still mostly on baby food (meats, yellow veggies and fruits- he doesn't like the green veggies) and he does eat a bit of table food, but not much yet. As for the chamomilla I was giving him 30c- 3 pellets dissolved in about 1 ounce of water once a day. I am still giving him that since I am still hopeful it will help him.
cucu111 last decade
♡ deoshlok last decade
no response from chamomila 30....before any more meds single (2pellets) dose nux vomica 200c before bed --at least 1 hour after last eating
no acids as mentioned above--also no milk or milk products..
no acids as mentioned above--also no milk or milk products..
♡ John Stanton last decade
Thank you all for your responses. I will continue the chamomilla for at least another week. Should I continue giving him 30C-3 pellets a day before bed, or should I change that?
cucu111 last decade
NO!ONLY 1 dose-- no more--single dose (2-3 pelelets) chamomilla 30c---but (as youi said) have given such---then go up to ONE DOSE ONLY chamomilla 200c and observe---if correct then will see change by bed time (sleep will be well)----if not next evening give nux-vomica (ONE DOSE ONLY) as mentioned above already
♡ John Stanton last decade
for cucu111
Thuja 200 since your child is emotionally sensitive and has difficult/disturbed sleep.
Moreover, it will take care of vaccine sideeffects.
Pranam
Nikhil Shah
Thuja 200 since your child is emotionally sensitive and has difficult/disturbed sleep.
Moreover, it will take care of vaccine sideeffects.
Pranam
Nikhil Shah
asknikhil last decade
One thing I forgot to mention about my son's sleep habits. When he is starting to fall asleep or get back to sleep, he loves to touch my face, particularly my nose. I don't know if this means anything, but figured I'd mention it. Also, one day this week I slept with him because we had an overnight guest and I did not want his crying to disturb her. He slept so well because each time he roused, he saw me and stayed calm. Unfortunately, co-sleeping is not a viable option for us.
cucu111 last decade
if no good response to chamomilla 200c then ---NO more chamomilla AND
single dose nux-vomica 200c evening before and single dose calc-phos 30c next morning---no repetition of doses
same food restrictions as above---also salt reduction/smoked foods
single dose nux-vomica 200c evening before and single dose calc-phos 30c next morning---no repetition of doses
same food restrictions as above---also salt reduction/smoked foods
♡ John Stanton last decade
I have not given the chamomilla 200c since it has not yet arrived, but I have been giving the 30c for at least 2 weeks with no good results. If anything, I think certain things have gotten worse such as his clinginess to me even during the day. I think I shouldn't even try the cham 200C. Or should I? It's just very frustrating because I have been going through this for so long and nothing seems to really work. And I hate the thought of letting him cry it out, but I also cannot go on with getting up every 1 or 2. And I know my son is not benefitting from this interrupted sleep.
cucu111 last decade
forget the chamomilla 200c------single dose (2 pellets) nux vomica 200c to be taken in evening before bed--at least 1 hour after last eating......next morning single dose (2 pellets) calcarea phosphorica 30c 1 hour before first eating -----no repetition of either remedy...
MUST AVOID --all acids (all carbonated soft drinks,vinegar,tomatoes and tomatoe products,coffee,tea,acid fruits and fruit juices,..etc);reduce sodium usage;no smoked foods......
MUST AVOID --all acids (all carbonated soft drinks,vinegar,tomatoes and tomatoe products,coffee,tea,acid fruits and fruit juices,..etc);reduce sodium usage;no smoked foods......
♡ John Stanton last decade
abc_bod15 last decade
I gave my son nux vomica 30C last night since I could not find the 200C. He still woke up every 2 hours. I gave him the calc. phosp 30c this morning. What type of result am I supposed to see? Am I to give him anything else? Sorry to ask for so much help, but I am very,very new to homeopathy but am hopeful I will find a remedy to help my son, although I am getting discouraged since I've been at this since November. I also get a bit confused because different people have posted different recommendations and it's hard to chose one.
cucu111 last decade
Cucu111,
If I could ask a couple of questions.
Has your son always slept in a crib?
Do you always need to rock or hold him to put him to sleep?
Have you always slept on floor beside crib, since beginning?
Has he always woken up every one or two hours?
When did this start/or when did his sleep patterns change?
If pattern changed, did anything is house/environment change at same time?
Is he in daycare, or at home?
Does anyone else take care of him?
Has anyone new come into his life? (New caretaker, etc.)
What is the family situation like? (new people in, familiar people gone, etc.)
It sounds like from reading that you were sleeping with him, and now are trying to put him in his own bed? He is still going through separation anxiety, (which can be normal for up to third year). Changes in environment can play a role or the child just doesn't accept change as easily. Alot of children exhibit clinginess at this age. Most children don't like being alone.
Here is a little information on separation anxiety:
The onset and resolution of separation anxiety requires the achievement of three developmental milestones: attachment to a care giver, realization of object permanence, and development of trust. Here's how this works: a 6 month old infant is not spoiled just because he cries when Mom leaves the room or is handed to someone else. Instead, his crying represents her developing sense of attachment to her Mom and Dad. (I used the terms Mom and Dad, but I really mean whoever is the primary care giver.) If he did not have a sense of attachment, he would not be concerned when they left the room.
On the other hand, until the infant develops the realization that Mom and Dad are permanent figures, known as object permanence in developmental terminology, he will continue to cry or fuss when he cannot see them. He does not know that just because he cannot see them doesn't mean they have ceased to exist. He cries when they leave because he's attached to them (that is he loves to be with them - they are his favorite things) but, he thinks they have vanished because he cannot see them. Finally, he must learn that Mom and Dad will return and will love him still even after they have been gone.
Although separation anxiety shows up between ages 6 and 8 months and object permanence appears roughly at 9 to 10 months, separation anxiety may take until age 2 to 3 years to finally peter out. As in much of infant development, the child's temperament plays a role. A child who adapts to new situations easily will probably have less anxiety than the child who has a difficult time with change.
Hope this helps, although it may not get him to sleep on his on any sooner. (Is it impossible to let him sleep with you?)
WNCGirl
If I could ask a couple of questions.
Has your son always slept in a crib?
Do you always need to rock or hold him to put him to sleep?
Have you always slept on floor beside crib, since beginning?
Has he always woken up every one or two hours?
When did this start/or when did his sleep patterns change?
If pattern changed, did anything is house/environment change at same time?
Is he in daycare, or at home?
Does anyone else take care of him?
Has anyone new come into his life? (New caretaker, etc.)
What is the family situation like? (new people in, familiar people gone, etc.)
It sounds like from reading that you were sleeping with him, and now are trying to put him in his own bed? He is still going through separation anxiety, (which can be normal for up to third year). Changes in environment can play a role or the child just doesn't accept change as easily. Alot of children exhibit clinginess at this age. Most children don't like being alone.
Here is a little information on separation anxiety:
The onset and resolution of separation anxiety requires the achievement of three developmental milestones: attachment to a care giver, realization of object permanence, and development of trust. Here's how this works: a 6 month old infant is not spoiled just because he cries when Mom leaves the room or is handed to someone else. Instead, his crying represents her developing sense of attachment to her Mom and Dad. (I used the terms Mom and Dad, but I really mean whoever is the primary care giver.) If he did not have a sense of attachment, he would not be concerned when they left the room.
On the other hand, until the infant develops the realization that Mom and Dad are permanent figures, known as object permanence in developmental terminology, he will continue to cry or fuss when he cannot see them. He does not know that just because he cannot see them doesn't mean they have ceased to exist. He cries when they leave because he's attached to them (that is he loves to be with them - they are his favorite things) but, he thinks they have vanished because he cannot see them. Finally, he must learn that Mom and Dad will return and will love him still even after they have been gone.
Although separation anxiety shows up between ages 6 and 8 months and object permanence appears roughly at 9 to 10 months, separation anxiety may take until age 2 to 3 years to finally peter out. As in much of infant development, the child's temperament plays a role. A child who adapts to new situations easily will probably have less anxiety than the child who has a difficult time with change.
Hope this helps, although it may not get him to sleep on his on any sooner. (Is it impossible to let him sleep with you?)
WNCGirl
WNCGirl last decade
NO other medicines/remedies or repetiton of doses...wait -until access response or lack of by calc-phos.....keep observation on appetite;behavior;stooling -urination patterns and such;sleep pattern...etc
keep informed all observe as change --no matter how seemingly unimportant...
keep informed all observe as change --no matter how seemingly unimportant...
♡ John Stanton last decade
Here are the answers:
Has your son always slept in a crib? No. I had him in a cradle when he got home and many times took him out when crying and let him sleep in our bed.
Do you always need to rock or hold him to put him to sleep? Yes, except for when he falls asleep in the car or when I can pat him back to slee after at least 30 minutes.
Have you always slept on floor beside crib, since beginning? No. See 1st answer. I started that when he was about 8 months old and I was trying to get him to sleep alone in his crib.
Has he always woken up every one or two hours? He is a very light sleeper and he has always woken up frequently. He will sleep for longer stretches if I am sleeping with him.
When did this start/or when did his sleep patterns change? Seems like always, although it has gotten really bad over the past 4 months or so.
If pattern changed, did anything is house/environment change at same time? No change.
Is he in daycare, or at home?
At home.
Does anyone else take care of him? Not really. Only for very short periods of time and only once in a while.
Has anyone new come into his life? (New caretaker, etc.)
No.
What is the family situation like? (new people in, familiar people gone, etc.)
Status quo.
It sounds like from reading that you were sleeping with him, and now are trying to put him in his own bed? Yes.
I know he is still going through separation anxiety but I really feel something has to be able to help him relax enough to fall asleep, instead of always waking up and looking for me.
(Is it impossible to let him sleep with you?) Yes, as he is a restless sleeper at times and can take up the whole bed. In addition, my husband is not keen on co-sleeping.
Has your son always slept in a crib? No. I had him in a cradle when he got home and many times took him out when crying and let him sleep in our bed.
Do you always need to rock or hold him to put him to sleep? Yes, except for when he falls asleep in the car or when I can pat him back to slee after at least 30 minutes.
Have you always slept on floor beside crib, since beginning? No. See 1st answer. I started that when he was about 8 months old and I was trying to get him to sleep alone in his crib.
Has he always woken up every one or two hours? He is a very light sleeper and he has always woken up frequently. He will sleep for longer stretches if I am sleeping with him.
When did this start/or when did his sleep patterns change? Seems like always, although it has gotten really bad over the past 4 months or so.
If pattern changed, did anything is house/environment change at same time? No change.
Is he in daycare, or at home?
At home.
Does anyone else take care of him? Not really. Only for very short periods of time and only once in a while.
Has anyone new come into his life? (New caretaker, etc.)
No.
What is the family situation like? (new people in, familiar people gone, etc.)
Status quo.
It sounds like from reading that you were sleeping with him, and now are trying to put him in his own bed? Yes.
I know he is still going through separation anxiety but I really feel something has to be able to help him relax enough to fall asleep, instead of always waking up and looking for me.
(Is it impossible to let him sleep with you?) Yes, as he is a restless sleeper at times and can take up the whole bed. In addition, my husband is not keen on co-sleeping.
cucu111 last decade
I forgot to mention that my son received 3 vaccines today-Varicella(1), Hep B (3), and MMR (1). Will these adversely affect the remedy given this morning? Thanks for all the help!!
cucu111 last decade
Okay, well since nothing is different except that he's been doing this since you began putting him in own bed, it may still be the separation anxiety.
I hope remedy will help him to relax, and that he gets over this sooner than later.
I don't know that the vaccines effect the remedy per se, but they sure could effect your son.
I personally think you SHOULD sleep with him for a few weeks after every vaccination (or in the same room) to watch for adverse reactions to vaccines.
If you insist on vaccinations, you might also consider a schedule where he is only getting one dose at a time.
Peace,
WNCGirl
I hope remedy will help him to relax, and that he gets over this sooner than later.
I don't know that the vaccines effect the remedy per se, but they sure could effect your son.
I personally think you SHOULD sleep with him for a few weeks after every vaccination (or in the same room) to watch for adverse reactions to vaccines.
If you insist on vaccinations, you might also consider a schedule where he is only getting one dose at a time.
Peace,
WNCGirl
WNCGirl last decade
vaccines---they will effect ..besides other complications.....need address vaccine usage---single dose sulphur 30c soon as able----no refined (brown and white)sugar products for child--pure maple syrup ok
♡ John Stanton last decade
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