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Suffering for more than 6years form mouth ulcers

Hi,

I read some articles here before posting and came to know a lot many things. So hope fully this would be an easy post to read and reply :-)

My name is Rajneesh 26 Male Delhi/India/ Single/ Living with family mom/da/sis/bro. Working in a Software Company. I have been having mouth ulcers since I can remember .. more than 6years, when I was in school.
I have already tried allopathy for more than 2years, homeopathy (from a homeopath practitioner) for more than 1year or so, consulted dentist - no issues with my teeth. Tried giving up on spicy food for a month the ulcers still came, stopped eating out.. no help. Got AIDS HIV Test -ve. Got Biopsy for mouth ulcers -ve no cancer. My Blood Sugar is normal. Always suffering from mild to nill constipation.

Some 8month back I had Jaundice during this time, the mouth ulcers were mild, and some limited to just bumps in the mouth and did not develop to open sores. I had also suffered from typhiod, but that was real long time back.. may be 3-4 years back.

My previous job required me to do night shifts (18months) during this time, there were no major problems And i enjoyed working. Now Im in a different job, but it too requires some night shifts, but now the problem is increasing, could be stress, but i dont know how to be sure of this. My mouth ulcers are bigger and severer, larger in size now and take more time to heal 1+month approx. Since last 6 years I have had continuous mouth ulcers when one is about to heal a new one appears at some other place. There has been no long duration when I have had no ulcers, atleast I dont remember any such time.

While reading through this forum, got to know of Lysine, will try if I can find it locally here in India.

I dont take medications too much, and my dad is himslef a strong believer in homeopathy, and is a small time paractioner. just gave me bryonia for sore throat (dont know if it is good or not, but my throat is better now :-)
I believe in letting body heal itself.. but may be here my body needs something it cant find inside....

Looking forward to your response.

Thanks,
Rajneesh
 
  rajneesh on 2006-03-12
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
Try KALI CHLORICUM 6c,5 drops thric daily in a little water.I hope it will solve your problem.

sajjad.
 
sajjadakram635 last decade
what was occuring in life (6 years ago) prior to ulcers ?please explain thoroughly...i.e....illness;trauma;accident;allopath treatment;injury....etc
 
John Stanton last decade
where exactly do ulcers occur in mouth? what particular side? please be exact as possible what exact sensation you experience with ulcer?size? please explain the typical course of ulcer (from first show itself to fading)? what aggavates the sensation?...
 
John Stanton last decade
in order to select the best remedy for a patient, a homeopath need enough symptoms,
so please reply the question that JHON asked.
DR.SAJID MAHMOOD
 
drsajid last decade
Thanks everyone for such a tremendous response. I thought it would take time before some one would respond, but you guys are just amazing thanks.

Regarding the details asked:
its not that these ulcers have come back after 6 years... its that I have been continuosly suffering from these since these many years. Since school, where I was a normal average student, was not very friendly. After school went into a hostel for one year, for college. there also these ulcers accompanied me. I enjoyed a lot there, no tension, just fun, here i became a very talkative and friendly kind of person with many friends. After one year at hostel cam back home it was my decision as I got into a better course, and joined another college. I enjoyed a lot here, was good at studies here made many friends. But mout ulcers troubled me a lot. It was here that I got a biopsy done for my ulcers which resulted in cancellation of any doubts about cancer. As my dad had suffered from cancer (NHL - Non hodgkins lymphona in a lymph node in right side of rear neck some 4 years back).
After my college joined a call center... as per my will and enjoyed working in night shifts had great firends and enjoyed the time. Felt like going to office even on week ends, here also there came ulcers but not soo horrific as now.
After 18 months in a call center daily night and grave yard shifts. Joined a sfotware company, where I need to do some night shifts some 10 night shifts every month. The work is okay, a little hectic. But this time my mouth ulcers have become horrifying, some 3-4 in a cluster, one looking really bad at about3mm in diameter, whitish center, and reddish edges. When these ulcers start they are like a pimple a bump, they are reddish yeelow in color, and I feel like pricking them, but in most cases i dont... Wahtever I do, either prick them or not, they eventually become little rough from outside in a day or two time, and then crack up and once they crakc up it gets filled with a pale yellow/whitish substance. This statys like this for 1/2 weeks during which they slowly loose the whiteish substance and clear up and then the skin re-stiches it self. I have noticed that when one starts healing before it gets completely healed I start feeling a new bum/pimple in my moust. These ulcers can come any where in my mout, including - upper/lower gums, upper/lower inside of lips, any side of the cheeks form inside, on the tounge edges, under tounge. When these ulcers on my tounge edges recover, they leave a crator kind of makr, as if my tounge has been stretched to accomodate the ulcer and my tounge has lost is smoothe U shape from the front and it has become a rugged edged U. These ulcers can come in rear side of my throat, if I say AAAA i can see them right inside, and it becomes hell of a time to swallow anything. I am currently having ulcers on bothe sides of my cheek. some 3/4 in rear end of my mouth, where u see something hanging!! :-)
and one (about 2mm with white fillings and red boundary)under the tounge where on left side of the tounge where tounge is connected to my lower jaws.
These ulcers can come anywhere in my mouth with no pattern.

Please advice, i really need your help.

I am sorry for writing SUCH A LONG STORY but i want to give you all all informaiton, so I can get some help as soon as possible.

Thanks everyone again,
Rajneesh
 
rajneesh last decade
what medicines/treatment used for jaundice?

what medicines (allopathic) currently using? what reason?
 
John Stanton last decade
For Jaundice it was allopathy, with some medicies named: Ursocol, etc. I cna look up my presciption if needed. I am actually not at home right now. Will provide you details soon. Currently I am on no medications currently, in fact since jaundice I have not taken medicines its been about 8months.

Thanks for reading my long story and replying . I am heavily touched by your intentions of helping me.

Thanks,
Rajneesh
 
rajneesh last decade
how has sleep been affected ?what are currrent sleep characteristics? dreams?

is it for certain that ulcers did not exist before 6 years ago?
 
John Stanton last decade
how much antibiotic use in health history?dates?reasons?

how much tobacco(smoking/chewing) use?when start use?

how constant (if at all) pain from ulcers? what makes feel worse ? what makes feel better?

please explain thoroughly typical diet (include all)--how much has this changed over the years?
 
John Stanton last decade
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explain detailed the exact sensation(s) envolved with the ulcers..
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John Stanton last decade
Hello John,

Sorry for replying late, I was searching for my prescription, which I had during Jaundice. And just found it. Here are the medications which continued for 2 months continosly:
Ursocol SR(twice daily)
Phospholip TF (thrice daily)
And after two months I was fine.. and slowly these medicines were removed.

And since then I have not take any other medication.

I do not take alcohol/tobacco/ or any other drugs of any sort.

Ulcers do not give a constant pain, when I try to use the part of the mouth where the ulcer lies only then it pains. If I do not get it to move in it remails as a something in the mouse which should not be there. And feel like some extra thing lying in there. If I try to move my tounge over it (if it ossible) then it feels like some open wound, and as if Im licking my open wound., If put pressure on it it pains. I have even tried cleaning it completely and removing the whitish coating, and then applying some pain reliver like glycerine/ a medicine available here named smile. But It just makes the region numbg does not help in the recovering of the ulcers so I had stopped it long time back (2-3 years).

My diet includes:
rice(boiled and water thrown)
Vegetables (cooked with spices, My ulcers get aggrevatedby spices so I would stop having anything spicy, inclding some vegetables.)
Dals (coocked in water(water is not thrown). However with anything washed/cut, it is soaked in water for some time (3-4 hrs) depending on when it would be cooked and water that contained it is thrown. Actually in my home all vegetables are cut at one time, and used as and when desired. This wastes lots of nutritional values. But this has not changed ever since I remember. Everyone in my family donsumes the same food, but I am the only one suffering from this problem.

Regarding the exact sensation, its like a wound in the mouth and gets aggrevated when that part of the mouth is used. So If it is in one side of my cheek, it remains wiht no problems when I am typing this, but if I try to blow my mouth full of air, it would pain.

If there is some thing that was needed and I did not answer that feel free to inform me.

Thanks a lot for all your keenness to help.

Regards,
Rajneesh
 
rajneesh last decade
Missed my chapatis, made from wheat flour. This is something that we also eat eavery day.

Thanks,
Rajneesh
 
rajneesh last decade
what diagnos as jaundice causation? pre-hepatic; hepatic; or post hepatic..
what symptoms exactly were you experiencing that accompanied the jaundice diagnosis?
 
John Stanton last decade
Thanks John,

It was A Vival Hepaptitis.
My somptoms at that time were fever, weakness, felt very hungry, every 2-3 hours(but that could be becasue I could not eat my complete diet at one go).
Apart from that my eyes went yellow in first week after jaundice was discovered, accompanied with the skin going yellow which in about a months time from discovery of jaundice. Urine came dark brownish. Some times Mild pain in upper abdomen.

During jaundice I did not eat any spicey food, no oil, ate bread, green salads, smashed potatoes, and tomatoes. I just love tomatoes nad also rice, and chapatis (made from wheat flour).

Now my right side ulcers are in recovery phase and they are clean without any white fillings, but the left cheek strill has two big spots of lcers with off-White fillings and reddish circumference. Now I have started to feel some fresh high sensitive regions on the tip of my tounges, they would aso come up as ulcers in some days time :-(

Ulcer under my tounge is still there, so are the ulcers in the rear of my mouth cavity.

Thanks,
Rajneesh
 
rajneesh last decade
Reading your story makes me suspect you are suffering from candida. There are many forms of candida and it has various symptoms with mouth ulcers being one of them. Considering candida mostly stays undetected and you have tried so many things it is worth looking into this. What do the doctors think in this forum, does anyone agree?
 
conniec last decade
I read your all the detail you will try thr following prescription after fail of all medicine i.e. SEMPERVIVUM TECTORUM Q 10 drops three times in a day for a month and report me.
dr.deoshlok Sharma
 
deoshlok last decade
I read your all the detail you will try thr following prescription after fail of all medicine i.e. SEMPERVIVUM TECTORUM Q 10 drops three times in a day for a month and report me.

dr.deoshlok Sharma
 
deoshlok last decade
again not clear if ulcers existed before 6 years ago? when exactly ulcers first start?please explain...

list thoroughly all times in life that remember having used antibiotics (dates and reasons)..
 
John Stanton last decade
Thanks conniec, dr.deoshlok Sharma, and of course John Stanton.

I have started this thread saying 6years back ulcers started, because that was the earliest I cound remember, but on checking further with my family I got to know ulcers had been with me since long, long time back. I was told I had been suffering for long they could not pin-point any specific year/time when it started. Its been since I was in school, the last date to which we could trace was way back in 1996 when I was in 9th Grade, when I was some 13year old.

Nothing unusual happened at that time. But when I came in 11th std, my dad was tested positive for cancer. However before this time, no one even thought of any problems with dad. He was on diagnosis for NHL Non Hodgkins Lymphoma for about 3-4 years, and now he is all fine.

John, do you still want details of anti-biotics used till today? If yes do let me know I would surely dig up the information and provide you the details.

I sincerely thank everyone here for taking out time and helping me.

Rajneesh
 
rajneesh last decade
I was curious if there was an odor to the substance that excrudes from your ulcers. If it is granular sulfur with a really bad smell to it. I have been researching tonsil stones and usually post on the 'White Bumps In Throat' page.
 
justmebyanyname last decade
yes--list antibiotic use history best of recollection of family and you?

what color of tongue (in morning before any food/drink)?

how fast or slow eat food ?

how much drink in a day? what type of drinks?what type of drinks much prefer?what favorite temperature of food or drink?which temperature will not have of food or drinks?

Any cravings, aversions, or reactions, from food or to situasions?
how is appetite? how do you feel when fasting?
what foods cannot stand at all?
how does coffee effect you? what foods hate or will never eat?
what foods sensitive to? what is reaction?


any Gastrointestinal upsets/complaints?.... such as diarrhea, constipation, nausea?
any burping,gagging,flatuence,vomitting?when occur?what trigger? how frequent?.
what characteristic of stool/urine? anything stand out?..color ..odor..bloody...etc
any complaints/faults going stool/urination? ..painful....frequency...etc
 
John Stanton last decade
Hi Rajneesh

John is taking the case.

Meanwhile ,try a single dose of Nitric Acid 200.I had the same problem and nitric acid helped. Now I am free of these sores since the last one year.It may or may not work for you.But, no harm in trying.

Don't take any other medicines till atleast a week.

Murthy
 
bandarbabu2000 last decade
Hi all,

Thanks for all the responses, I am grateful to all you guys.

justmebyanyname there does not come any smell. there is no odour. Infact my mom had pyorreah so we all are pretty paranoid about any smells from mouth. But this is not the case.

Murthy thanks for your suggestion will give it a shot.

John, it might take me some time to get all this informaiton, I would reply with the information soon. Thanks for taking this up so far, never any of my previous doctors checked so much. I really feel this time we willl get to the root cause and solve this ulcer mennance :-)

Thanks again,
Rajneesh
 
rajneesh last decade
Hello John,

I have found some of my old prescriptions, but the handwriting is of doctors, which is not understandable to me. I have two possible solutions, either I scan them and put them on my website, so that may be you can read it from there, OR one of my friends is into medicines, may be he can understand whats written, and then I can send that accross.

Actually the handwriting of doctors here in India is something which only doctors or pharamacists can understand :-)

Awaiting your directions on this.

You had asked for some more information:
what color of tongue (in morning before any food/drink)?
**It is whitish in color, and all my ulcers are covered with thick white coating. This white coating on my ulcers is thicker at this time than rest of the day. And tounge is white on top and reddish at bottom.

how fast or slow eat food ?
**Yes here I see some connection, When I was in grade8th or 7th or may be even 6th i.e. in year 1995or1994 some where close to this time, one of my tooth was removed(first molar). As it had started decaying. It has not come up ever since, as the doctor said. After this time I had started eating things without chewing it much.... this is something that I still do and hasn't change since. So may be not chewing the food cab be linked. As this is something which caught my attention when I was thinking what has changed since all the past years. [I do not chew my food much, and swallow it almost without chewing it]...

how much drink in a day?
**Mostly water around .5-1 liters a day, rarely tea/coffee and that too just half a cup if at home. At if at office 1 or Max 2 tea/coffee per day. Water intake remains to .5-1L.

what type of drinks?
**Carbonated drinks is something that I have almost stopped taking however there are some rare exceptions, in which i take cold-drinks like coke/pepsi and that too not more than 1glass. Other than that water or fruit juice mave favurite pineapple juice.

what type of drinks much
prefer?
**No hard drinks, no preference as I mostly take water as a drink, with pineapple juice as fillers some times, aerated cold-drinks is not my preference.

what favorite temperature of food or drink?
**No such preference, food at a little higher tmeperature than normal room temerature. Like normal hot/fresh food. Drinks at normal temeperature. May be I didnt understand what was actually asked. I am sorry.

which temperature will not have of food or drinks?
**Food at Freezing temerature, except for ice-creams.

Any cravings, aversions, or reactions, from food or to situasions?
**Don't like doing home chores :-(
No cravings for any specific food ever, If i feel hungry I can eat anything. But yeas, when I get up ?I feel like eating some thing salty and not sweet, so If I need to drink milk, I drink it without sugar.

how is appetite?
**Good, three times a day I eat good amount of food.

how do you feel when fasting?
**Very hungry, I rarely fast.

what foods cannot stand at all?
**Mostly green vegetables, I like potatoes, tomatoes. But do eat very limited amount of green veggies.

how does coffee effect you?
**People say if they drink coffee they dont feel like sleeping, this does not hapen with me. If I have to get up the whole night I can without any tea/coffee

what foods hate or will never eat?
**Green veggies; but still eat some amounts.

what foods sensitive to? what is reaction?
**Sweet food is somthing I used to like, but no more. in fact in the morning I can't stand sweet things.

any Gastrointestinal upsets/complaints?.... such as diarrhea, constipation, nausea?
**Light constipation mostly all year round.

any burping,gagging,flatuence,vomitting?when occur?what trigger? how frequent?.
**After eating I do get some 304 burps. No other sympots. And this happen most of the times. My mom says this happens because I eat fat.

what characteristic of stool/urine? anything stand out?..color ..odor..bloody...etc
No everything is normal. But yes when I am on any anti-biotic or whenI feel I am sick I see my urine strong yellow in color, with a shade of light orange.

any complaints/faults going stool/urination? ..painful....frequency...etc
Becasue of light constipation, it hard for me to throw stool, and so I take some 20-30 minutes in the toilet daily. Frequency is normal once a day is fine for me.

Thanks again,
Rajneesh
 
rajneesh last decade
Heavy correection in the following paragraph:

any burping,gagging,flatuence,vomitting?when occur?what trigger? how frequent?.
**After eating I do get some 3 To 4 burps. No other symptoms. And this happens most of the time. My mom says this happens because I eat fast.

Thanks,
Rajneesh
 
rajneesh last decade

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