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This forum is becoming a circus. Pat2006, Tamiano, Kuldeep, etc are clowns and the biggest one of them is Joe. The norm now is that you lie so much that it becomes a generally accepted truth, e.g.; Arnica. Recommendations like, try this or try that. Look into this and that but if does not work try this and that. Guys you are playing with lives do have any idea you could be killing people. The moderator should know these guys are driving away, instead of introducing people to homeopathy. There is no analysis there is no diagnosis just prescription. There have to be some rules on how a case is treated. There must be an outlined process that needs to be followed otherwise jokers will Pat2006 will keep making a mockery of homeopathy.There should be a separate forum where hit and trial homeopaths should practice. You should also have Skeptic forum where people who do not agree with homeopathy can voice their opinion. This is a just a laymans observation.
faqir on 2006-04-29
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
I completely agree. This place is about to become a parody, when the allohomeopathy crew is allowed to prescribe after these prinsciples that has nothing to do with homeopathy.
This forum has som excellent advicers like the great Dr. Deoshlok Shamra, which has helped myself alot, which follows what should be accepted from a homeopathic prescriber.
It is a shame, that moderators can not tell these dangerous and wrong prescribers that at least the principles Abchomeopathy Software is based on must be followed.
The word around in other homeopathic forums is not positive for Abchomeopathy in the long term.
Hope the moderators on this forum can take some actions against this!
Fredrik
This forum has som excellent advicers like the great Dr. Deoshlok Shamra, which has helped myself alot, which follows what should be accepted from a homeopathic prescriber.
It is a shame, that moderators can not tell these dangerous and wrong prescribers that at least the principles Abchomeopathy Software is based on must be followed.
The word around in other homeopathic forums is not positive for Abchomeopathy in the long term.
Hope the moderators on this forum can take some actions against this!
Fredrik
Fredrik L.A last decade
My dear fellow faquir. We are looking into your case quite seriously. Mean while you can try Ignatia-30 (General resentment, depression, anger etc.) and post your further condition here.
kuldeep last decade
there is not a forum on net --i find yet where you can pracise homoeopathy as in clinic style ..as we do here---if start segrating -steralizing atmosphere here--then lose this quaity--i say allow whom ever wishes to post to post.no matter what style....go to otherhealth board BB....their a bunch os stuck up idiots...snobs--i rather deal with all our varities than them...hypocrites they are...this is as life is...we resignate to those that give us treatment --our kara deserve--if not kama--then choice....not perfect world...
so bottom line..back off ---no moderator intervention...
so bottom line..back off ---no moderator intervention...
♡ John Stanton last decade
Readership and clientale of this website and abc-company is increasing significantly due to this forum.
I stubled upon it myself after I discovered kuldeep's silicea post on google. Then I ordered medicines from here.
More and more people are arriving here from search engines.
This is not true with other forums where so called elite homeopaths are God Fathers. Anyway not many people go there.
Mr. Faqir can take his business there or else where.
I stubled upon it myself after I discovered kuldeep's silicea post on google. Then I ordered medicines from here.
More and more people are arriving here from search engines.
This is not true with other forums where so called elite homeopaths are God Fathers. Anyway not many people go there.
Mr. Faqir can take his business there or else where.
scarface last decade
♡ PANKAJ VARMA last decade
faqir is welcome to write whatever he wills--remember this is the beauty---all speak their thoughts....nothing wrong/everything wrong--in fact --in my opinion faqir--understands homoeopathy better than some confident prescribers---at least the theory..his motive is his own.---his personality as all ours---well----thats life...
♡ John Stanton last decade
There is very little more that I can add to the comments that my colleagues have already made above.
However I would request both Faqir and Fredrik not to waste their time in criticizing me and the other prescribers on this forum who have been present like me for over 3 years on a daily basis. You are both advised to spend more time on the other forums like Hpathy, Otherhealth to name just two who would be only too delighted to keep you in their fold.
You may perhaps be interested to read the comments of grateful patients who have been helped by our methods of cure using Homeopathic remedies.
Please note that those of use who are present on this forum use our own concept of Homeopathy which differs from the narrow classical method which involves a detailed case taking and prescribing when the patient usually ends up with a remedy which the classical prescriber gives him which invariably does not help and leaves the patient dangling on a thread for his life which is governed by the next pronouncement from that classical genius of a homeopath who, unless he uses Homeopathic software like Radar to carefully evaluate each of the remedies that can be used for the ailment, usually prescribes the wrong remedy based on his own
interpretation of the classical rote used by homeopaths who have been brainwashed into believing that it is only through the classical method that a patient can be cured.
However I would request both Faqir and Fredrik not to waste their time in criticizing me and the other prescribers on this forum who have been present like me for over 3 years on a daily basis. You are both advised to spend more time on the other forums like Hpathy, Otherhealth to name just two who would be only too delighted to keep you in their fold.
You may perhaps be interested to read the comments of grateful patients who have been helped by our methods of cure using Homeopathic remedies.
Please note that those of use who are present on this forum use our own concept of Homeopathy which differs from the narrow classical method which involves a detailed case taking and prescribing when the patient usually ends up with a remedy which the classical prescriber gives him which invariably does not help and leaves the patient dangling on a thread for his life which is governed by the next pronouncement from that classical genius of a homeopath who, unless he uses Homeopathic software like Radar to carefully evaluate each of the remedies that can be used for the ailment, usually prescribes the wrong remedy based on his own
interpretation of the classical rote used by homeopaths who have been brainwashed into believing that it is only through the classical method that a patient can be cured.
♡ Joe De Livera last decade
John,
Glad you are enjoying this exchange of views Classical versus 'Joedeliverapathy'.
I feel strongly that these pseudo classical types who have been brainwashed into accepting the narrow classical rules of Homeopathy must not be permitted to desecrate our ABC as they have been made welcome in other forums which I listed in my last post.
You have only to visit them to see for yourself the result of their narrow classical attitude and their impact on the public and you will note that they only have about 2-3 posts daily in comparison to the ABC which has over 50 daily. This fact alone proves that the general public who have been lead up the garden path by these classical homeopaths, have finally seen the truth and are now opting to be cured by types like you, me and a few others, who use our own interpretation of homeopathy which I can honestly state works far better than the classical method, complete with their extended case taking which unless one uses Homeopathic software like Radar, is just a waste of time.
I am convinced that a prescription cannot be made in the classical manner without the assistance of some software, as the human mind cannot possibly evaluate the many traits of each remedy which is essential for the corect remedy to be prescribed.
I have often used Radar when I am dealing with a case that I am not familiar with and have found it useful but it is the anomaly in its prescriptions that is of interest is that Radar has never prescribed Nat Phos for GERD nor Arnica for Acne and the other ailments that I have used it successfully.
Joe
Glad you are enjoying this exchange of views Classical versus 'Joedeliverapathy'.
I feel strongly that these pseudo classical types who have been brainwashed into accepting the narrow classical rules of Homeopathy must not be permitted to desecrate our ABC as they have been made welcome in other forums which I listed in my last post.
You have only to visit them to see for yourself the result of their narrow classical attitude and their impact on the public and you will note that they only have about 2-3 posts daily in comparison to the ABC which has over 50 daily. This fact alone proves that the general public who have been lead up the garden path by these classical homeopaths, have finally seen the truth and are now opting to be cured by types like you, me and a few others, who use our own interpretation of homeopathy which I can honestly state works far better than the classical method, complete with their extended case taking which unless one uses Homeopathic software like Radar, is just a waste of time.
I am convinced that a prescription cannot be made in the classical manner without the assistance of some software, as the human mind cannot possibly evaluate the many traits of each remedy which is essential for the corect remedy to be prescribed.
I have often used Radar when I am dealing with a case that I am not familiar with and have found it useful but it is the anomaly in its prescriptions that is of interest is that Radar has never prescribed Nat Phos for GERD nor Arnica for Acne and the other ailments that I have used it successfully.
Joe
♡ Joe De Livera last decade
Dear Joe de Livera!
Your intimidating is incredible. You talk like the spiritual leader and CEO of this forum, sorry to say but it is kind of ridiculous. I have been told you are a noble man, using your time and intellectual property to help. I just can not in my wildest dreams understand why you can not follow som quite simple universal rules of homeopathy !? Why can you not study the Organon as over 500.000 homeopaths all over world do, and follow its principles?
As far as i am concerned Radar is one of many softwares, and i do not know of any at the other forums that do not use some kind of software. You saying everything else than Radar is crap, is most laughable.
This Arnica cure for everything you are promoting is not true. I have been treated with Arnica and it did not do anything at all. After seeing a classical excellent homeopath i have now cleard up 60% of my case after 1,5 months. Not even one of mye acne was gone on the 'Joe de Livera Arnica wondercure'
There is hundreds of thousands trained homeopaths around the world that are trying to gain access for the heritage after Samuel Hanhneman to the medical systems dominated by allopaths. In this way this noble art of healing, can be attended by a much wider audience if the governments around the world see that this is a medical systems that is interpreted after universal laws.
You Joe de Livera is breaking all these simple rules, that can make homeopathy avaliable to this audience.
Why can you not use your bright head to study homeopathy as it was founded and prescribe in a way that is parallell to the practice of 95% all homeopaths around the world. I am quite sure you would be able to learn this fast.
PS: Adiya you should maybe consider reading something about homeopathy that has some neutral information. It do not seem as you know to much from your statement here.
Pankaj Varma why are you calling others missers?
John Stanton why are you telling others to back of? Are you the owner of this webpage? If so, please put up a password for access and do not send one to those that are not welcome.
Fredrik L.A
Your intimidating is incredible. You talk like the spiritual leader and CEO of this forum, sorry to say but it is kind of ridiculous. I have been told you are a noble man, using your time and intellectual property to help. I just can not in my wildest dreams understand why you can not follow som quite simple universal rules of homeopathy !? Why can you not study the Organon as over 500.000 homeopaths all over world do, and follow its principles?
As far as i am concerned Radar is one of many softwares, and i do not know of any at the other forums that do not use some kind of software. You saying everything else than Radar is crap, is most laughable.
This Arnica cure for everything you are promoting is not true. I have been treated with Arnica and it did not do anything at all. After seeing a classical excellent homeopath i have now cleard up 60% of my case after 1,5 months. Not even one of mye acne was gone on the 'Joe de Livera Arnica wondercure'
There is hundreds of thousands trained homeopaths around the world that are trying to gain access for the heritage after Samuel Hanhneman to the medical systems dominated by allopaths. In this way this noble art of healing, can be attended by a much wider audience if the governments around the world see that this is a medical systems that is interpreted after universal laws.
You Joe de Livera is breaking all these simple rules, that can make homeopathy avaliable to this audience.
Why can you not use your bright head to study homeopathy as it was founded and prescribe in a way that is parallell to the practice of 95% all homeopaths around the world. I am quite sure you would be able to learn this fast.
PS: Adiya you should maybe consider reading something about homeopathy that has some neutral information. It do not seem as you know to much from your statement here.
Pankaj Varma why are you calling others missers?
John Stanton why are you telling others to back of? Are you the owner of this webpage? If so, please put up a password for access and do not send one to those that are not welcome.
Fredrik L.A
Fredrik L.A last decade
Open forums like this one are just that open. As long as everyone can be nice to each other, opinions will vary across the board. There is nothing in the forum rules to infringe on this. Those who want more rules and more structure should perhaps look elsewhere.
If something works, it works. Period. And I dont really care by which method the prescriber got there. But it may not work for everyone. Lord knows, the same thing happens in all areas of medicine. Why is it we tend to hold alternative practitioners to some kind of higher standard than we do allopathic docs? Traditional medical doctors fail miserably on a regular basis.
As a side note and this is just my opinion, of course - I think would be helpful if those who post this for that remedies begin to keep track of both successes and failures with whatever they are prescribing. It seems like we only hear about the success stories. That only tells part of the story.
And that means that people who try these remedies must post their results with the remedy, or the prescriber wont get a clear conception of how well a particular remedy really works in the this for that world.
Just my input on this subject.
Tracy
If something works, it works. Period. And I dont really care by which method the prescriber got there. But it may not work for everyone. Lord knows, the same thing happens in all areas of medicine. Why is it we tend to hold alternative practitioners to some kind of higher standard than we do allopathic docs? Traditional medical doctors fail miserably on a regular basis.
As a side note and this is just my opinion, of course - I think would be helpful if those who post this for that remedies begin to keep track of both successes and failures with whatever they are prescribing. It seems like we only hear about the success stories. That only tells part of the story.
And that means that people who try these remedies must post their results with the remedy, or the prescriber wont get a clear conception of how well a particular remedy really works in the this for that world.
Just my input on this subject.
Tracy
Truthfinder last decade
I partially agree with you Tracy. But there is a large BUT. Promoting this 'just take this and just take that' makes it impossible to keep track of changes. I see someone that is on 5-10 different remedies in here, which is pure crazy.
If these 'joedeliverpaths' were so excellent about their prescriptions, why on heavens earth do they not start up a practice consulting a large number of people?
I think i have an answer to that one: They would then have to take responsabilities to their reckles prescriptions. Here on the internet they can hide behind these fictive names.
Also their negativ attitude to all educated homeopaths, is because they have been kicked heads out from the other forums, for unscrupulous prescription of homeopathic remedies.
Another thing i find irritating is that you Tracy say that it is negative to be a 5 years educated homeopat. What kind of ludicrous statement is that? As long as something works for one person we do not need to know what happends? We do not need a system to adequatly organize what works for what symptomes? What you need to know is that the 'joedeliverapathy' is similary to Allopathy which again is totally oposite to homeopathy.
And it is stated quite clear that the webpage that this forum is hosted on is not calles Abcallopathy!!!
If every single homepath around the world the last 200 years was practicing 'joedeliverapathy' it would have been dismissede hundreds of years ago. It has bearly lived throug the way it is and 'joedeliverapathy' would never lived a day on it own unless it could shelter under the back wing of real homeopathy.
So why do not Joe De Livera start up his own webpage and his own forum where he and his crew can practice the 'Joedeliverapathy'? i am quite sure that www.joedeliverapathy.com is avaliable at this very moment.
So at least Tracey you should use the remedyfinder at abchomeopathy berfore making suggestions that all these 5 and more years educated homeopaths all around the world is the enemy for the wonderfull practice of homeopathy. This whole webpage were we are talking through the forum, is based on the exact principles that Hahneman discovered more than 200 years ago.
The only they are enemy to is the 'joedeliverapathy'. And I am 100% sure that the estimated 500.000 educated homeopaths around the world would agree to this!!
Fredrik LA
If these 'joedeliverpaths' were so excellent about their prescriptions, why on heavens earth do they not start up a practice consulting a large number of people?
I think i have an answer to that one: They would then have to take responsabilities to their reckles prescriptions. Here on the internet they can hide behind these fictive names.
Also their negativ attitude to all educated homeopaths, is because they have been kicked heads out from the other forums, for unscrupulous prescription of homeopathic remedies.
Another thing i find irritating is that you Tracy say that it is negative to be a 5 years educated homeopat. What kind of ludicrous statement is that? As long as something works for one person we do not need to know what happends? We do not need a system to adequatly organize what works for what symptomes? What you need to know is that the 'joedeliverapathy' is similary to Allopathy which again is totally oposite to homeopathy.
And it is stated quite clear that the webpage that this forum is hosted on is not calles Abcallopathy!!!
If every single homepath around the world the last 200 years was practicing 'joedeliverapathy' it would have been dismissede hundreds of years ago. It has bearly lived throug the way it is and 'joedeliverapathy' would never lived a day on it own unless it could shelter under the back wing of real homeopathy.
So why do not Joe De Livera start up his own webpage and his own forum where he and his crew can practice the 'Joedeliverapathy'? i am quite sure that www.joedeliverapathy.com is avaliable at this very moment.
So at least Tracey you should use the remedyfinder at abchomeopathy berfore making suggestions that all these 5 and more years educated homeopaths all around the world is the enemy for the wonderfull practice of homeopathy. This whole webpage were we are talking through the forum, is based on the exact principles that Hahneman discovered more than 200 years ago.
The only they are enemy to is the 'joedeliverapathy'. And I am 100% sure that the estimated 500.000 educated homeopaths around the world would agree to this!!
Fredrik LA
Fredrik L.A last decade
never used computer program for homoeopathy--no think i ever will...there are lies everywhere within this frame work -egotism and money being the POINT---need see through all this crap...or not..all depends on person...
♡ John Stanton last decade
John Stanton is a man of few words. So are you one of these clairvoyant-pshycic-healer guys who write the name on the remedies you need and hold them up to water to make a remedy?
Well if money wore not the driving mechanism, how do you think internet which you use in your own egositic favour to do your work, could possibly exist without money??
Fredrik LA
Well if money wore not the driving mechanism, how do you think internet which you use in your own egositic favour to do your work, could possibly exist without money??
Fredrik LA
Fredrik L.A last decade
Fredrik, I do not wish to irritate anybody. I am confused. Please show me where in any way stated that it is negative to be a 5 years educated homeopath. I would never imply that. I had the good fortune to work briefly with a certified Homeopathic Doctor and I have the utmost respect for him. And for traditional homeopathy. I wish that doc was still available. He spent 2 years in India, and worked with some amazing homeopaths all over the world. He was dedicated to helping people. And I came away with a great appreciation of how difficult - yet simple in many ways homeopathy is. I was so inspired, I bought my own little Materia Medica with Repertory.
This website is called ABCHomeopathy, but in the very first rule for this forum, it states:
You may express any opinion you wish here, and you don't have to confine questions and answers to homeopathy. If you feel an answer to someone's post is best solved by a non-homeopathic method, you are free to say so
Joe and others have made it pretty clear that they are not practicing traditional homeopathy. As long as there is no deception about that, I dont see the problem.
If the this for that philosophy has no merit whatsoever, then that truth will eventually present itself. I prefer to watch and wait.
Ha, ha Fredrik, Im glad you asked about using the Remedy Finder here . I have to laugh because I did try using it some time ago, and I could not figure it out!! Well, I am embarrassed to admit this, but it is the truth, so there you are. At some point, I will have to re-read the instructions and try again. I guess I am not the sharpest knife in the drawer around here, no question about it.
Please do not be offended by my post here, Fredrik. It is really up to you. I have re-read my post and cannot seem to find anything that should make you angry. At this point, I am trying to maintain an open mind, and practice a little live and let live philosophy. Is that really such a bad thing?
Tracy
This website is called ABCHomeopathy, but in the very first rule for this forum, it states:
You may express any opinion you wish here, and you don't have to confine questions and answers to homeopathy. If you feel an answer to someone's post is best solved by a non-homeopathic method, you are free to say so
Joe and others have made it pretty clear that they are not practicing traditional homeopathy. As long as there is no deception about that, I dont see the problem.
If the this for that philosophy has no merit whatsoever, then that truth will eventually present itself. I prefer to watch and wait.
Ha, ha Fredrik, Im glad you asked about using the Remedy Finder here . I have to laugh because I did try using it some time ago, and I could not figure it out!! Well, I am embarrassed to admit this, but it is the truth, so there you are. At some point, I will have to re-read the instructions and try again. I guess I am not the sharpest knife in the drawer around here, no question about it.
Please do not be offended by my post here, Fredrik. It is really up to you. I have re-read my post and cannot seem to find anything that should make you angry. At this point, I am trying to maintain an open mind, and practice a little live and let live philosophy. Is that really such a bad thing?
Tracy
Truthfinder last decade
lol---clairvoyance? damn i wish..i am one of those that need to know everything---almost down to what color socks wore on february 4 at the age of 7....get envolved and see...'action speaks louder than words'---and here is another one--'proof is in the results'
♡ John Stanton last decade
Hi John,
If Faqir knows homeopathy so well...why is he wasting his time finding faults with others....why doesn't he begin to help others.
Maybe, if he helps others ...that will improve his karma ....and next time he will be re-born as a millionaire instead of as a 'faqir' !!
Pankaj Varma
If Faqir knows homeopathy so well...why is he wasting his time finding faults with others....why doesn't he begin to help others.
Maybe, if he helps others ...that will improve his karma ....and next time he will be re-born as a millionaire instead of as a 'faqir' !!
Pankaj Varma
♡ PANKAJ VARMA last decade
There are two categories of faqir.One is that needs nothing and rarely comes in the public, lives in his own world---needs nothing from the public----buried in his own thoughts. The other one you can see quite often in streets spreading his hands for some money. This faqiris here for homeopathic treatment ONLY.PUNKAJ VARMA,Please offer him best possible treatment.
Sajjad.
Sajjad.
sajjadakram635 last decade
'Faquir' word comes from 'Fakkar' (Parsian word) means 'one in content with whatever God has given'.
Actually all kind of people make world colorful and spicy.
Actually all kind of people make world colorful and spicy.
kuldeep last decade
Here is the definition of Faqir from Webster:
FAKIR
Function: noun
Etymology: Arabic faqIr, literally, poor man
1 /f&-'kir, f-, fa-; 'fA-k&r/ a : a Muslim mendicant : DERVISH b : an itinerant Hindu ascetic or wonder-worker
2 /'fA-k&r/ : IMPOSTOR; especially : SWINDLER
FAKIR
Function: noun
Etymology: Arabic faqIr, literally, poor man
1 /f&-'kir, f-, fa-; 'fA-k&r/ a : a Muslim mendicant : DERVISH b : an itinerant Hindu ascetic or wonder-worker
2 /'fA-k&r/ : IMPOSTOR; especially : SWINDLER
♡ Joe De Livera last decade
Dear Sajjad !
We come to abc forum for some fun too. Normally I refrain from making some personal comments about people ....unless the person provokes me.
In this case I was quite bewildered that Mr.Content Faqir was blind to all the good people were passing on to each other...thru ABC.
I know the Islamic meaning of 'Faqir' and wish him well. Wud only recommend to him to follow the true princilpes of Islam and 'help his neighbour'.
By the way ...I respect all religions...being a devotee of Sathya Sai Baba. Baba's strict teachings are to respect all religions as GOD is ONE.
Baba's symbol carries signs of many religions ...including Hinduism, Christanity and Islam. At Sathya Sai centres around the world...on Bhajan day...prayers are sung from many religions.
Incidentally, at the Vancouver Centre (10th Avenue/Broadway) of Satya Sai...at prayer time prayers are made from many religions one after the other..from Hinduism, Christianity, Islam, Zorastrianism, Budhism, Sikhism, Jewish prayers etc.
best regards,
Pankaj Varma
We come to abc forum for some fun too. Normally I refrain from making some personal comments about people ....unless the person provokes me.
In this case I was quite bewildered that Mr.Content Faqir was blind to all the good people were passing on to each other...thru ABC.
I know the Islamic meaning of 'Faqir' and wish him well. Wud only recommend to him to follow the true princilpes of Islam and 'help his neighbour'.
By the way ...I respect all religions...being a devotee of Sathya Sai Baba. Baba's strict teachings are to respect all religions as GOD is ONE.
Baba's symbol carries signs of many religions ...including Hinduism, Christanity and Islam. At Sathya Sai centres around the world...on Bhajan day...prayers are sung from many religions.
Incidentally, at the Vancouver Centre (10th Avenue/Broadway) of Satya Sai...at prayer time prayers are made from many religions one after the other..from Hinduism, Christianity, Islam, Zorastrianism, Budhism, Sikhism, Jewish prayers etc.
best regards,
Pankaj Varma
♡ PANKAJ VARMA last decade
♡ John Stanton last decade
John...which med have you been taking lately...I see some major changes coming !!
Best regards,
Pankaj Varma
Best regards,
Pankaj Varma
♡ PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Thank you for your reply and explaination.We all are here to serve needy peoples.Most of them respect us but unfortunately some of them make joke of us.They are non serious persons, i rarely reply them.It all depends upon individual understanding and mental level.Some of the prescribers like you and Kuldeep and erika joe and others who are absent for the time being are very nice people.The posters should respect them.I appreciate joe very much.He is the person who is severly criticized for prescribing Arnica for almost all the diseases but still he is contributing constantly.He has lot of tolerance.Really amazing.
sajjad.
sajjad.
sajjadakram635 last decade
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