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Bacterial Vaginosis, can you help me?

Hello, I´m a 35 years old female, diagnosed by the gynecologist with a bacterial vaginosis.

The doctor told me I had a lot of vaginal discharge and a little bit 'withis' and also 'saw' a little tear on the walls inside of the vagina. The reason I visited him was not because I observed more discharge from normal or was itchy...but just because I had a little but not very much pain during intercourse...but my main concern was that I had already 6 months with some bleeding (spotting), not too much, but this spotting usually appeared on the days 12,13, 14 and 15 of my cycle (my cycle is every 28-29 days) and sometimes3 or 4 days before my menses started...and that was my complaint...my only parter
is my husband and he doesn´t seem to have any infection.

The PAP SMEAR resulted 'normal'...or non cancerus...but it indicated TYPE II INFLAMATION...so he prescribed medication...some ovules that I inserted inside...with Clindamycin Sulfate and Ketokonazol for 7 days...I just 'finished the treatment about 5 days ago...and then, during my ovulation and on days 12, 13, 14, 15 I had very little blood (less spotting than before...but still some blood is present) and now I paid attention and during this days I had more vaginal discharge...a little yellowish...and caused some itchiness...not UNBEAREABLE...but yes, uncomfortable..and with little odor...not really offensive...but definitly with some odor...



Sorry to write MAYBE TOO MUCH...but I really wanted to describe most of the symptoms...

MY WORRY IS THAT THE DOC...WILL PRESCRIBE ME AGAIN,...AND AGAIN..OR WITH OTHER MEDICINE...AND WILL BECOME SOMETHING PERSISTENT or chronic...
THAT´S WHY I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE IT A TRY ON HOMEOPATHY...

A little bit more about me, I´ve been a little bit under stress lately...and maybe I haven´t handle it well...also I always get a couple of pimples around my mouth or on the chin usually before my menses start.

I like to use very much 'the bathtub'...almost every day...so I don´t know if that could cause me the infection...and if I should avoid it...I haven´t taken any antibiotics recently...and only on february 2005 had bronchitis...and followed a treatment with corticoesteroids using a nebulizer...so I don´t know also if I have a low inmune system.

ABOUT MY PERSONLITY, I´m usually an outgoing person that likes to help other people..I get very stressed sometimes more with the problems of my sisters and my friends than with mine..I get sometimes very frustrated when I can´t help others or when I have tried some things several times and have gone wrong.

well, thanks for any help.
 
  elviriux on 2006-06-27
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Dear Elviriux,

Well thanks for info provided.But I need more.So please answer the following...

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11. Desire(food) sweets/sour/salt
12. Thirst
13. Tongue
14. Current BP (without medicine and with medicine)
15. What exactly is happening ?
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19. What comes to your mind ?
20. One situation that had a big effect on you ?
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23. What are you showing by that gesture of your hand.(habits or Action) ?
24. current medicine you are taking
25. family back ground
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29. Mind-behavior, anger, irritability, hurry, impatient…and so.. on and how you are peculiar from other person, public speaking or not , you can describe all the detail about behavior, love and affection. Any confidential and private matter to be discuss by email.
30. Aggravation (increases-time, season,)& Amelioration (Decreases)
31.Any complaint etc before,after or during menses?

Dr.Dinesh Sharma
 
drdineshsharma last decade
Hi there,

BV is one of the many problems I've had in the past year. I have some different symptoms (no blood or spotting), but I posted here a little while ago and got some responses that might be helpful to you.

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/69055/

Good luck.
 
JennG last decade
Hi! About any vaginal bacterial infection - it is totally opposite from a yeast infection, and probably much more painful. All of the info you can find on the balance in your system of bacteria and yeast will help; i.e. if I start itching - a yeast infection is coming and I take acidopholus with a meal each day to get the balance back in my body/colon. Also -- the bath is NOT GOOD. Any soaking in water can cause more inflammation, more bacteria getting into the vagina where it does not belong, etc. That is where it starts, and there are others online who would know more than me about homeopathic balance in this area.
 
ArtsyC last decade
Caladium 30c will help with this problem --- as will Pulsatilla.
 
walkin last decade
Thanks, walkin, Artsy and Jenn for your advice...as for the remedies that recommended me walkin I´m not very sure that they will work for me, because perhaps I need to give more information.

For the moment my husband and I stop relations...because I am supposed to heal.. right?

Well, since I finished the first treatment and still had this whitish discharge (I thinck they call it leucorrhoea) with little blood (very little spots...less amount than before)...the gynecologist recommended another 7 days of medicine but now METRONIDAZOLE...so he is very convinced that my problem is BACTERIAL VAGINOSIS and not a YEAST INFECTION...

As PREVENTIVE I stopped using the tub...I use to use it almost every day...with bubbles and everything...stopped sex...and try not to eat sugars and grains, bread..flour tortillas...

The discharge I have is not really thik or very uncomfortable or itchy...as I told you before I didn´t have symptoms...or not really noticeable...not clear...I got aware of the problem because of the spotting usually on days 11,12,13,14 and 15 of my period (28 days)...so the doctor said I had a 'scar' on the walls of the vagina...

I didn´t really got aware of 'bad odor', not really itchy...except a little BURN on the 'ovulation days' or in my mid-cycle...more discharge than usual, specially on the day...the discharge feels 'warm'...and I don´t have irritation or red or swollen labia...I don´t know if because is on THE FIRST STAGES...or because the bacterial infection is all inside...

So I have METRORRHAGIA (spotting on middcycle in my case)...but it is not supposed to be by unbalanced hormones...but because I have this interior SCAR...

tHE DISCHARGE SEEMS TO BE CLEAR...maybe a little whithish..bot not green or yellow or thick...but again..if feels a little bit warm...

So what do you think of THE REMEDIES...ARE THEY OK? DO I NEED TWO? ONE FOR THE BACTERIAL INFECTION AND OTHER TO HEAL THE INTERNAL SCAR??? AND MAYBE OTHER TO BOOST MY IMMUNE SYSTEM?

As a little bit more information about me...I´m 5`2' (or 1.57 m tall) and 48 kgs...'petite complexion'...lately I feel a little bit more tired...but I think everybody does lately because is very hot in here...35 to 42 C.!!!! I am mexican....no other problems except for the some mild acne before my menses start....

thank for anyhelp!!!
elviriux
 
elviriux last decade
hi alviriux

i have seen this post first time now
and i have studied it with full care
and noted in my diary

i will study it and guide u soon, pls dont worry

i have dealt such one case at my clinic but you know that it depends on full symptoms

that lady was 42 years old and she also had menstrual symptoms and abortions history etc

now ia dvise you to provide more detail about follwoing issues

menstruation, any pains or cramps, color and flow etc
kids, pregnancies, how were deliveries, any abnormalities during pregnancy or delivery etc
your libido
stomach, digestion, constipation etc
urination
blood pressure etc

and more uc an provide

u can also email or visit my website
i will try my best to help u

good bye
 
Hasnaat last decade
Hello,

I really need some help to get rid of bacterial Vaginosis. I've had it for around seven years and I have tried everything to get rid of it. I've tried using acidophilis as a pessary and it works short term but as soon as i have sex it comes back again. Having this condition affects my self esteem and I really want to get to the root of this problem and eliminate it forever. I want to feel comfortable about sex. If anyone has cured this condition please can you give me some advise.
 
lesley ann last decade
It is most certainly due to a lowered immune system .

Stay AWAY from any orthodox medication - which will suppress symptoms but not cure anything and end up witha chronic condition.

As a firststep take ONE dose of Aconite Nap 10M and ONLY repeat when condition worsens.
 
walkin last decade
Where will I get Aconite Nap 10m from?
 
lesley ann last decade
I also want to add that I have a tendancy to feel quite angry and frustrated. At the moment I feel helpless to do anything about this problem and that makes me frustrated. I've been with my boyfriend for six months and his ex girlfriend is trying to get him back. I can't help but think that because I have this problem he will go back to her. I feel so paranoid about him thinking im dirty because the smell can be unbearable after sex.
 
lesley ann last decade
Thanks everybody (walkin, hansaat, etc) for suggestions. I´m going to update you with my lately symptomps.

As you could read the first 2 treatments were allopathic ...the vaginal suppositories with antibiotics..so after the second treatment (7 days with metronidazole suppositories) THEN I REALLY BECAME AWARE OF THE INFECTION!!!!

I HAD THE GRAY DISCHARGE VERY CLEAR!!! and very sticky...like very attached to the vagina walls...horrible!!!!so yes, I got WORSE...

So after that I went to an homeopath (who I consulted on the spring for a seasonal allergy and gave me tratment with good success)

He told me to wash with a solution of vinegar and warm water, to get some LACTOBACILLUS ACIDOPHILUS... and gave me homeopathic pills (the small sugar ones)...but he didn´t write WHAT WAS...and told me to abstain having intercourse.

So I followed treatment for like 2 weeks...I felt better and then have relations with my husban...later came my menses, with the normal color of the blood...etc...and 5 days passed and I noticed again a 'spotting' (little blood, pinky colour...then another day, and I guess a third one...had relations again AND YES!!!! IT BECAME WORSE...

So now I´m understanding very well is a PH IMBALANCE...and maybe yes...I have a depleated immune system...againg follow the steps
1) the vinegar-water wash
2) lactobacillus acidophillus 3 times a day (6 caps. in total)
3) abstination of sex
4) take the homeopathic medicine given before

SO THE FIRST 2 DAYS DIMINISHED THE SPOTTING AND IN LIKE 7 DAYS I HAD NO SPOTTING AT ALL.

SO HOW DO I KNOW IF IT WILL BE RECURRENT!!!! Please help me...my husband doesn´t want me to have him in abstination like forever!!!!

ALSO I diminished my consuption of sugar and bread or anything with wheat...this is not a lot of sacrifice since I don´t really eat them on a daily basis.

SO IT SEEMS LIKE IS GONE...but from the last experience I know it is like 'latent'...waiting to reapper..

So Walking do I take one dose of Aconite Nap 10m...then I test my self with my husband..to see if it reapears??? and I keep you informed
or do you suggest other?
Should I take the acidophillus like forever.??? or should I buy the natural lactobacillus acidophillus and make my own yoghurt????

Anyone..have a clue?
thanks for your help
ELVIRIUX
 
elviriux last decade
Forgot to tell you that I have noticed lately that my stomach gets bloated...I was 10 days on vacations and I didn´t eat my meal ON TIME...or skipped meals..also didn´t eat very 'healthy'...at home I eat healthy...It´s been 4 days since I came back from vacations and I still get bloated.

but I don´t have at the moment any bad 'discharge' or thrush...or spotting...but also I haven´t had any relations with my husband...

Also I read somewhere that I could douche my vagina with a preparation of hydrogen peroxide and water in certain proportion...I guess it to oxigenate the area...would that also work for me?
thanks again
 
elviriux last decade
Hi Elviriux,

I know your situation to well because I have had this ongoing problem. I've been using acidopilis for three years, I 've used tea tree oil as a douche and I've changed my diet to a very healthy diet. I'm looking for answers like yourself but can't seem to get to the root of this problem. It sometimes takes over my thoughts and I end up feeling depressed. If you have any luck with a cure please let me know.
 
lesley ann last decade
Yea i had that too for a long time. Um its best to stick with one partner first and foremost. But I have also had thyroid disease. THen to find out. I thought i had irritable bowel. if any one has these symptoms after eating certain foods. I suggest a complete allergy test. even if it shows up a very mild positive. it could be the link to your BV. I had an allergy test to find out i was allergic to wheat, oats, rye, barely, malt yeast, corn AND corn syrup (same thing) tomato, potato, peanuts, soybean, chocolate, dairy, eggs, beef and pork. So yea when i started to change my diet. I didnt realize but noticed
HEY! my BV's gone! i was like wow. SO yea.
if u eat certain food and ur body dont digest it right. u will end up with problems w/health in any way. I now eat. Millet and flax bread, rice, still some potato dont seem to affect the BV. this way i can have my mickey d's fries :). Um fruits, veggies, millet flour helps with frying chicken in olive oil, salt pepper, all seasonings with out wheat. like u can make garlic salt with garlic powder and salt then it dont ahve the wheat. Um theres all kinds of gluten, dairy, egg free, corn free foods. If u can afford it. try it. It will make u feel better too. Bread is bad for u, so is pork and beef. i believe that to this day. I hate eating this way at times
but the benefits out weigh anything i could imagine. I eat like tuna on millet bread grilled without cheese and veganaise (grapeseed kind is yummy) with a side of blueberries and carrot sticks for lunch. if i get really hungry i just eat rice or more sandwiches. For awhile till i got use to eating this way. cuz ud be surprised u wont feel full like u use to. cuz bread and preserves and msgs are so bad. Millet is the best. rice bread is nasty kind of. thats why i chose millet. more and more ppl are choosing millet and flax bread and its hard to find but. its so good for u.
hope this helps thanks.

Michelle
 
tanyabanana last decade
oh and one more thing ive found. Wheats, oats, ryes barley and malt are glutens and glutens have been known to cause bad bacteria growth. such as candidas which causes yeast and one other i cant remember that causes BV consistantly. just gets worse with sex.
 
tanyabanana last decade
Shoot i didnt mean to hit send yet hehe. but anyway. to change your way of life. diet wise might be the only answer.
 
tanyabanana last decade
Hi Tanyabanana,

I have tried changing my diet but I must admit that I find it difficult to stick to. Im taking alot of acidophilis and using teatree oil as a douche.

I think it a good idea to try and adopt a positive attitude.
 
lesley ann last decade
Hi, everybody...this is Elvira again...thanks for all the advice on the diet...the thing is that this forum is about homeopathy...and nobody has really mention if a remedy CAN WORK FOR ME..

ANY WAY...FINALY I KNOW WHAT WAS THE CAUSE OF MY PROBLEM...AND PAY ATTENTION VERY CAREFULLY EVERY WOMEN...

ON OCTOBER 2005 I STARTED A TREATMENT FOR HAIR REMOVAL (laser hair removal)...not that I´´m really hairy but is the trend, here in Monterrey City (Mexico)...before that year was quiete expensive...but now the prices came down so fast that some moms are even taking their 10 or 11 year-old girls for treatment.

So one of the area WAS THE BIKININY AREA...of ´course you can go all-bare skin...but I decided on the more conservative removal...but any way...LASER BURSN!!!and the area gets swollen, red and VERY HOT...like for 3 days...because it is a very sensitive area...WHAT HAPPENED WAS THAT IT KILL ALL THE GOOD FLORA OR THE GOOD BACTERIA INSIDE!!!! and the consequenses were not obvious ´til some 2 or 3 months later...

That´s when I started with the spoting at the middle of my period...later I was also spotting after my menses... and later before (2 or 3 days) and after...another 5 days...or so..and of course on days 13, 14 and 15...when you got more flow..

I didn´t mentioned it about it,...becuase I didn´t know what was the cause that triggered it...but when I heard 2 other women that talked about it...(having recurring bacterial vaginosis..and they removed all theri hair on their vagina)...then I realized that was the CAUSE OF MY PROBLEM...!!!!

what I have done lately...

All natural...makiin my own yogurt at home and eat like half kilo dayly (roughly a pound).
Inserting like for 14 days after my menses a capsule that I prepared with boric acid (they sale it on the pharmacies)...inside a vegetable capsule...only at night..I read it on some forum it works to neutralize the ph...

Also the outside I wash it some times with a solution of like a half liter of water and 2 tablespoons of vinegar (applecider or white vinegar)

No intercouse (my husband keeps watching football or beisball on tv)...later I lernt is ok with condom...the thing is that 'their liquids' are alkaline...and also with the 'shaking' (sorry for being too obvious') it spread more the infection...

Then I also got a test...it was detected I have some tipe of streptococus bacteria....but the thing is that it doesn´t matter this, I guess for homeopathy (I mean to know the exact name of bacteria, such as gardenella, or tricomas or streptococus..etc)...

The thing is that the boric acid, I guess didn´t work as effective as I thought...and started on other option I found on natural forums..I they say to insert a peeled garlin (alone or in a mesh)...and put it a string so you can take it out (like a tampon)...some say use it only at night...other say day and nigh...some say it´s ok wiht 5 days...others say...14 days...so...I use it...like for 10 days after my menses only at night...and like 3 or 4 days after I inserted lactobacillus acidofillus (only 1 vegetable cap) at night...again..I repeat...for 4 days...

Then I learnt you shoud check your PH...so I bought...the PH STRIPS THAT COME FROM 1 TO 7 RANGE...I waited...10 days...and my ph was normal ...it was 4.0 (you must have from 3.5 up to 4.7...but this strips only can give you .5 intervals...

DON´T BUY THE 1 TO 14 PH STRIPS....BECAUSE THEY ONLY GIVE YOU 1 BY 1 INTERVAL...Not .5...it´s more accurrate the one that goes form 1 to 7

SO I´´M WAITING FROM MY MENSES TO COME AGAIN (when you supose to have more an alkaline enviroment...instead of the acidic one)...and wait to see if everything TURNS NORMAL AGAIN...if my body or my internal flora is working good...to make an acidic enviroment after the menses...with no BAD BACTERIA...only the good one...

So after all this HUGE LATER...PLEASE BEWARE OF LASER HAIR REMOVAL IN THIS DELICATE PART...TALK ABOUT THIS WITH YOUR GINECOLOGIST...MAYBE YOU ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE PROBLEMS LIKE ME...BUT THIS IS A VERY DELICATE AREA...AND YOU PUT LIDOCAINE IN THE AREA TO NOT FILL THE PAIN...LASER IS REALLY HOT...IS INVASIVE...AND IS SOMETHING NOBODY TALKS ABOUT THEIR BAD CONSEQUENSES..THE IDEA...IS TO SELL YOU THE TREATMENT...CHARGE YOU...AND NOT TELL YOU ABOUT THE CONSEQUENSES....EVERY BODY TAKE CARE...

ALSO I REDUCED MY INTAKE IN SUGARS...(I don´t really crave that much for sweets..but I watched more my diet)

BUT ANYONE...HAVE THE HOMEOPATHY REMEDY FOR THIS.-..BACTERIAL VAGINOSIS ´CAUSE AFTER A 'BURN'...ON THE AREA...
TAKE CARE
 
elviriux last decade
it´s me again...sorry for my spelling i wrote..garlin...instead of garlic...ok...

and i wrote 'huge later' instead of huge letter...

the question...any body has the remedy for this condition...????
 
elviriux last decade
Hi, I have had this vaginitis for a long time. I tried bactrim which seems to help a little. Flagyl pill, doesn't do much, and the vaginal cream does zilch ! I tried clindamycin which used to help because I would actually feel sick to my stomach as I do now from it. It makes me feel bloated. My vulva feels swollen and the inside of my vagina feels like it was raked on one side always. I had a hysterectomy about 4 yrs ago and had massive flagyl antibiotics. It didn't touch it, or maybe it did for awhile. Seems like I cannot have sex without it briknging it back, and it causes my husband's penis to be red and sore after sex. So, he doesn't like having sex when is penis becomes sore. What can I do. I am tired of seeing the Dr. She thinks I am crazy and am feeling so. It makes me feel weak and very tired, chilled and sweating. But I never have a temp when I take it. Anyways, how do I get rid of this menace ?
 
montanablue last decade
Hi, I am 18 years old and have been suffering from BV since I was in Junior High. At first the doctors told me I was just having a normal discharge so they put me on birth control. I went back one more time and they told me I had a little yeast infection and gave me some medicine. Things NEVER got better. For a couple years I went on just thinking, ITS NORMAL! even though i didnt believe it, they kept telling me that. Well a few months ago I went to my doc again and they finally found out I had BV after two more tests. Well it never went away and it seemed almost worse so I went to an OBGYN. They prescribed me medication two different times and as soon as I get off the medication it almost seemed worse again. I am cuurently taking Acidophilus to try to help, but its not working. I dont know what to do and I havew lost hope. These years are supposed to be the best years and it ruins everything I do. It seems like it comes out 24/7. PLEASE HELP ME!
 
kenrae18 last decade
I used to be like you... looking everywhere for a cure to bacterial vaginosis. I would get it every month, for over a year until I found a online solution that helped guide me to a cure. Read about it here myconsumerreviewsite. com
 
lesli123 last decade
After a year and a half of BV, I have got rid of all my symptoms!!! and wanted to share what finally helped me: Black Walnut (juglans nigra) 1,000 mg/ml. I mixed 30 drops in 1/4 carbonated water three times a day in between healthy meals. I also take regular supplements of anti-oxidant complex, vitamin c complex and vitamin b complex vitamins. Black walnut has been traditionally used to expel parasites, it has powerful properties that fight bacterial and fungal infections, as it oxygenates the blood and shifts the PH in the stomach. Please seek professional advice regarding black walnut if you are pregnant or breastfeeding. Hope this helps!
[message edited by poppy8 on Fri, 17 Feb 2012 06:45:10 GMT]
 
poppy8 last decade
Hello, if you have a male partner and continue having chronic or persistent vaginosis
Then there may be a permanent solution for you. It happened to me and this was the permanent cure go to
husbandforsale(dot)com
and click on bacterial vaginosis from the main menu
 
husband4sale last decade

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