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Fibroymalgia and Phosphate Buildup

I've read theory that FMS is caused by a genetic kidney dysfunction that leads to buildup of phosphates in tissue cells. There is an MD who prescribes a 'med' to break up mucos in tissue cells. Could there be a remedy to address this phosphate buildup.
 
  joyce martino on 2006-08-11
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Joyce,
There are many remedies that would help you and your daughter (with SHL, another post) Please give us more info about YOU...there are many homeopaths on this forum that can lead you to a good remedy, just fitting your symptoms.
Tell about what you look like, what you eat and don't like to eat, how the weather affects you, your general health, not just the FMS..more symptoms. Please check through other posts that ask for this info and you see what is needed to help you.
Blessings,
Jade
 
jadeshade last decade
I've always been a high-energy person, have dealt with my share of stress, father, bosses, ex-husband, but have always bounced back to energy. Have osteo arthritis issues in lower back, knees but when I was FIRED from a job at age 61 my body became tramatized. That's when the fibro stuff came on, fatigue, achy joints, tender spots. Am on a thyroid med but still have achy body and fatigue, especially in the morning.
 
joyce martino last decade
In case of a person with FMS, would weight loss using Natrium Phos 6x be unadvisable , because its a phosphate ? (Joe de Livera, maybe you can answer this better.) Or for that matter any biochemic or homeopathic remedy which ends in 'Phos' ?
 
rasingh last decade
rasing

If what you say is true, then nat phos would actually help fibromyalgia because the theory behind homeopathy is similiar cures similiar.

So in my limited understanding of both homeopathy and what causes fibromyalgia then Nat phos would be very beneficial for fibromyalgia and sounds to be like great news.

It certainly helped my digestive problems in a very significant way.

Have you ever taken homeopathic remedies for your fibromyalgia? If not, be careful with taking high potency ones because that made my digestive problems dangerously worse. Remedies that I took under the instructions of a private homeopath.
 
Pat2006 last decade
Gelsemium is a remedy that I recently learned can be helpful in curing fibromyalgia
 
Pat2006 last decade
If I were to try Gelsemium for my fibro stuff, which strength would I take?
 
joyce martino last decade
Joyce,
I would look at the ABC description of gelsemium and rhus toxicodren. Then decide which one is best for you. I would start with a 6c of either one that you decide upon.
I have suggested Rhus tox to others with fibromyalgia with good results. Especially with your symptoms being worse in the morning. Take it when you get up in the morning, for three days and then wait to see if your symptoms improve.
You can also put the remedy (2-3 pellets) in distilled water, about 4 oz. and take one teaspoon a day. Put in a small, preferably unused glass bottle with a top. Shake it against your palm several time before taking each dose. The shaking 'activates' the remedy. This way you can see how the remedy is working for you in a gentle way. The water method produces less agravations in my experience and what I've been taught by a very experienced and knowledgable homeopath, Robin Murphy. Avoid caffeine, mint products while taking remedies. Also do not eat or drink anything, except water for at least 30 minutes before or after taking remedies for the best results.
There is much good info on ABC. Have you used the Remedy Finder on this site? You can put in all your symptoms and find out what remedy comes up for you. Then view the grid, and you will see all the remedies applying to your symptoms. Then you can view the descriptions of the remedies as well and determine how/if you fit into any of them. It is very interesting and informative.
Blessings,
Jade
 
jadeshade last decade
Hello Joyce

Keep below 30c when taking homeopathic remedies because it can aggrevate your digestive system which includes your esophogus/throat to a dangerous level.

For now avoid the nightshade family (potatoes, tomateos, eggplant, peppers) because they contribute to the pain, inflammation and stiffness.

In my case, I have to also avoid pastas no matter how they are made. Flour makes me wake up stiff.

The nat Phos 6x tablets has done wonders for my digestive system.
 
Pat2006 last decade
Jade,
Can you please recommend books by Robin Murphy?


Thank you very much.
 
Pat2006 last decade
Pat 2006 True Nightshades are not good for people with arthritic conditions..

Just recently I went kind of WILD with wonderful summer tomatoes and eggplant and really felt the horrible effects of those foods. I'm off all them again.

Thanks for your inputs..
 
joyce martino last decade
Joyce,
Dr. Murphy has written a materia medica (a description of 1200+ remedies) and a repertory (a listing of thousands of symptoms arranged by body location). He has a compilation of teaching tapes as well. Try Minimum Price Homeopathic Books. Or you can do a search with his name, be sure to include the ND after his name as there is another Robin Murphy that does some sort of robotics research that could turn up. I have a study book 'Organon Philosophy Workbook' that I got at a seminar I attended years ago, as well as other study guides and handouts at other seminars. He has other published works too, but sadly out of my budget currently. He is a wonderful and excellent doctor and teacher, kind, patient and intelligent (and funny). You can also find books by him at another website A2Zhomeopathy dot com. That is mainly another homeopathic pharmacy in Santa Fe. They are very helpful and have a good selection of books by other quality homeopaths.

I learned about using the LM potency from Dr. Murphy. It's a very easy way to use remedies, in water. I have personaly had very good results with them and get them from A2Z.

Yes, it is vital what we eat. It is very true about nightshades. I have found that eating umeboshi plum paste helps balance the PH in our bodies and keep the system alkaline. I eat it with brown rice frequently. Also any kind of sugar creates inflammation and havoc on the pancreas and liver. If I eat sugar I feel it's effects for weeks, with pain in every joint, so I haven't had any in almost 20 years.
Hope this helps.
Blessings,
Jade
 
jadeshade last decade
Hello Jade


Do you mean like if you eat sugar in pastries?

In my case fruits containing acid like plums gets to me after a short while. I'm getting better and can get away with eating a couple of plums without any noticeable problems. Too much acid also gets to my hormones

In my case, I have to watch how much sugar I take also including sugar from fruit. It affects my thinking and makes my vision blurry. But sugar with pastries is twice as bad and even affects my hormones.

So much to learn about ourselves when we get new deseases.

I'm getting better and I think one day I'll be able to eat more fruit like I used to before I got fibromyalgia. I can now eat more apples than before I started treating with homeopathy.

Thanks for sharing your very valuable knowledge with us and all wonderful websites where we can order books.
 
Pat2006 last decade
Pat2006,
You are both welcome. There are so many excellent people on this forum, I am glad to help in any small way.

Yes, there is much to learn about ourselves and how to heal. I am but a student.

Yes, I mean pastries, fruit, sodas, most cereals in a box, not just 'sugar' per se, but high fructose corn syrup, which seems to be in everything!!

Joyce,
I know you expressed concern over caffeine. Try drinking green tea. You can sweeten it with an herb, Stevia, I have used it with good results...it is very sweet, so a miniscule amount goes a long way. I believe you can cook with it. Do a search online and you will find recipes using it. Brown rice syrup can be used, it does a very slow release into the system and does not cause the kind of problems even fruit can. I can sometimes eat apples or the occaisional peach in season...but not much else..oh, dried dates sometimes, just one or two...it helps with menopausal symptoms, for some.


Blessings,
Jade
 
jadeshade last decade
Thanks, Jade. I've been using Stevia for a couple of years so I know all about that herb. Coffee is a difficult addiction to break. As I said I'm cutting it with Cafix but it does dull my pain and gets me going in the AM. There are many pros and cons about coffee, many alternatives docs say 1 or 2 cups per day is fine. I don't overdose But I read where it can interfer the the remedies. I'll do my best BUT I am very aware since I've been in the alternative healing world for quite a while.
 
joyce martino last decade
Oh, one more thing I add cinnamin, little baking soda to cut the acid, sometimes a little Ovaltine to my coffee...I make a real unusual coffee type drink for my pleasure.
 
joyce martino last decade
Jade

Does sugar from bananas and mangoes bother you also? What about sugar from persimons?
 
Pat2006 last decade
For Pat 2006 - you say to stay below 30C with remedies, well Joe has me on Rhus Tox at 1M and Hypericum Perf at 200C and Arnica 30C...I'm getting a bit confused with so many different instructions on dosing.

I'm always being told that there are NO SIDE EFFECTS with homeopathic remedies.
 
joyce martino last decade
Joyce,
I don't eat much fruit, for a variety of reasons...only generally what is in season and grows near me. Bananas don't grow very close to where I live. It's a way of eating/living I try to follow called macrobiotics. Eat what grows near you, if at all possible. For example, eating bananas from CA or Mex in the winter is not conducive to being in sync with your enviornment.

Yes, dosage can be confusing...and there can be side effects IF you take the remedy too long, or too often. Taking 1M too often is not optimal. 30C is lower and can be taken more often as needed. I prefer to put my remedies in water, that way one can take a teaspoon at a time. It's simpler to see how it's working and adjust accordingly.

I use LM potency more often and it's put in an unused 4oz bottle of distilled water. Then put one teaspoon of that solution into 2oz of water. Then take one teaspoon of that.

I have suggested this method to very sensitive people or children. My brother-i-l can only take certain remedies diluted two or three times.

Sometimes I dilute 6c in water and take teaspoons straight from the solution bottle. This water dilution method, especially the LM potency, I learned from Dr. Murphy.

There is a website with a homeopathic library that might be useful - David Little Homeopathic Library. He has lots of history and info on various remedy pictures. I find it fascinating and interesting reading.

Blessings,
Jade
 
jadeshade last decade
Joyce,

I suggest strongly that if you have digestive problems to stay with low potency remedies to avoid aggrevations. Aggrevations can make your digestive problems dangerously worse.

If you are new to homeopathy and are unfamiliar as to how your body will react to them, it is best to start with potencies 30c or below.

Keept Nat Mur 30c handy in case you get aggrevations that you can't stand them.

Take care
 
Pat2006 last decade
Hello Jade

Can you please tell us how you suggest we integrate both Gelsemium and Rhus Tox?

Like can they be taken on the same day, the same week, same month? How much time apart from each other?

Thank you.
 
Pat2006 last decade
Pat2006
Hi, why are you wanting to take either of these remedies?

Rhus Tox is good for poison ivy poisoning; Great Restlessness - fevers, stiff muscles and joints; tearing pains; rheumatism in cold weather; worse at night, cannot rest; muscles twitch; mucous discharges that are acrid, rusty red, musty, causing eruptions. Influenza; boils; abscesses; nausea worse afer eating, craves cold water; with movement pains are better, but worse on beginning of movement (move slowly), sprains; spinal injuries; joint injuries; confusion of mind;forgetfulness;worse at night. And much more....

Gelsemium is centered on the muscles and motor nerves. Great Lassitude - Aching; tiredness; heaviness; weakness; soreness; dizziness; drowsiness, dullness, trembling, prostrations; influenza with malaise, measles, muscular weakness; never well since the flu; general state of paresis, bodily and mnetally, wants to lie down queitly, watery discharges; stage-fright; effects of anger, grief, bad news, and is accompanied by trembling; diarrhea;
better by profuse urination, sweating, stimulants and mental effort, open air, reclining with head held high and stimulants.
Worse in damp weather, heat of sun, emotions of shock, fright, ordeals, tobacco, before a thunderstorm.

Although these remedies may seem to have some in common, they present differently, one with restlessness and one with lassitude.

Which is needed?

Blessings,
Jade
 
jadeshade last decade
Hello Joyce

I have taken other remedies and don't know how much is too much and when it is too many remedies.


I did take rhus tox recently and it seems to have helped quite a bit

How much is too much and how many remedies can be working simultaneously.

Also, don't want to antidote those that are working.
 
Pat2006 last decade
Thanks a lot Joyce.

Would really appreciate your opninion, thoughts, experience, beliefs, etc on this.
 
Pat2006 last decade
Hi Pat & Jade -- read your recent posts and since I am so NEW to this forum and homeopathy in general, I'm very confused about it all.

Right now, I am only taking Rhus Tox 200C 5 tabs 2 x's per day, morn and night. This came from my homeopath at our local homeopathic pharmacy. She wants me to take this remedy for 1 week, get off 1 week, and then back on and report back to her. Etc.

I was given so much different advice on the forum that I was getting too confused. First Joe gave me Arnica wet dose, natrum phos 6x, rhus tox 1M, & Hypericum..with taking these 4 I didn't know whether I was coming or going and what was working.

So, Pankaj got involved and put me on some others, which turned out not to be right. So I'm off her suggestions.

My main health issue is a Lower Back Stiffness (50 yrs worth) which causes a lot of other aches in my legs, etc. There is arthritis there too. The Rhus Tox seems to address rheumatism, backache, pain, lumbago, etc. So I feel this might be OK for me. FOR NOW.

Then as I said there is this Fibromyalgia stuff which I guess is a basket of many ailments...

If I can get my lower back loosened up, it would make a great difference in my overall health...

Also with the Rhus Tox I'm taking 2 tsps of Arnica wet dose per day, far apart from Rhus Tox. So.....that's it for now. joyce martino
 
joyce martino last decade
Pankaj Varma is 'him'....not 'her'.
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade

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