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wet dose preparation
hi guys i want to ask this q abt wet dose. ok i prepared a wet dose by inserting 2-3 drop in a water fiolled water shaked etc.now i wonder why ppl still say that even those drops from bottle need to be diluted when taken is it the true way by further mixing ?
kimlee on 2006-10-02
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
The wet dose is made up as follows:
Insert 2 drops of the remedy in Ethanol, or 3 pellets of the remedy into a 500ml bottle of spring water which you can get from any supermarket.
Shake the bottle hard 10 times every time before a teaspoonful which is the dose is sipped once or twice daily.
Please rephrase your question if you would like me to answer it.
Insert 2 drops of the remedy in Ethanol, or 3 pellets of the remedy into a 500ml bottle of spring water which you can get from any supermarket.
Shake the bottle hard 10 times every time before a teaspoonful which is the dose is sipped once or twice daily.
Please rephrase your question if you would like me to answer it.
♡ Joe De Livera last decade
ya i m following exactly the same method as umentioned but wonder why ppl say that u should still use that teaspoon with a cup of water .
kimlee last decade
kimlee, I believe that is referred to as a 'split dose'. If the person is particularly sensitive to the remedy it may be necessary to make the second dilution. Otherwise, a 'wet dose' is taking is the way Joe has described.
Daisy43 last decade
ultimately it boils down to 'we do as Hahnemann did ' . This was his recommendation. So just as we dilute using a centesimal scale to reach our 30c or whatever according to his guidelines. We dilute and administer in water. A variation I sometimes use is a small bottle with an eye dropper and have the patient take two or three drops directly from the bottle after succussing. If this proves too strong I can then have them dilute it further.
Sycotic last decade
k nice info . tellme one thing more:
'*idoes alcohl level represent naything too * ?
remedy is 90% alcohl level in thing special 4for this level?
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'*idoes alcohl level represent naything too * ?
remedy is 90% alcohl level in thing special 4for this level?
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kimlee last decade
QUOTE: 'ultimately it boils down to 'we do as Hahnemann did ' . This was his recommendation.'
This was his recommendation for the application of LM's, not Centesimals, the two scales work in a COMPLETELY different manner, and Centesimals simply will not tolerate the same levels of sucussion. A few doses in water sucussed here and there, no problem, trying to apply them as one would LM's, most deffinitley not..
-Jacob.
This was his recommendation for the application of LM's, not Centesimals, the two scales work in a COMPLETELY different manner, and Centesimals simply will not tolerate the same levels of sucussion. A few doses in water sucussed here and there, no problem, trying to apply them as one would LM's, most deffinitley not..
-Jacob.
Hahnemania last decade
Yes of course.(we dont repeat centesimals, as we would Lm's) Jacob do you use centesimals in chronic cases in water. How do you administer? How are you results? In another post I think you mentioned you dont succuss before taking ?
Sycotic last decade
Actually, according to David Little's report on Hahnemann's Paris casebooks, Hahnemann 'gave his centesimal potencies for the most part in the exact same manner as his LM potencies.'
That is - in the last years he used the medicinal dose and split dose with succussing for both. Hahnemann developed the medicinal and split doses using centesimals. He then created the LM potencies for those cases that were weak and/or extra sensitive and did not respond to the centesimals. However, he did not abandon centestimal potencies using the wet dose and succussing.
Unless I missed something...
That is - in the last years he used the medicinal dose and split dose with succussing for both. Hahnemann developed the medicinal and split doses using centesimals. He then created the LM potencies for those cases that were weak and/or extra sensitive and did not respond to the centesimals. However, he did not abandon centestimal potencies using the wet dose and succussing.
Unless I missed something...
busymominme last decade
Hey Sycotic.
I haven't actually used Centesimals, except in very rare circumstances (like online!) for about eight years now, I will only use LM's. When I do use them though, yes, I always give them either in water or by olfaction, always sucussing between each dose, but not the diuted remedy, the actual stock bottle. Sucussing the diluted remedy (for example in a 500ml bottle of water) can have some very unpredictable results, as obviously there is no real measurement of the release of conceptual essence, and this can greatly affect the effects of subsequent potencies. However if you sucuss the stock bottle, everything is measured, as the dilution rate and potency remain the same during sucussion, which merely recieves further dynamization. The results have always been good, but the Centesimals will only tolerate a few sucussions (30-40 I have found, depending on the initial amount given), they cannot be sucussed in the same manner as LM's.
Best wishes.
-Jacob.
I haven't actually used Centesimals, except in very rare circumstances (like online!) for about eight years now, I will only use LM's. When I do use them though, yes, I always give them either in water or by olfaction, always sucussing between each dose, but not the diuted remedy, the actual stock bottle. Sucussing the diluted remedy (for example in a 500ml bottle of water) can have some very unpredictable results, as obviously there is no real measurement of the release of conceptual essence, and this can greatly affect the effects of subsequent potencies. However if you sucuss the stock bottle, everything is measured, as the dilution rate and potency remain the same during sucussion, which merely recieves further dynamization. The results have always been good, but the Centesimals will only tolerate a few sucussions (30-40 I have found, depending on the initial amount given), they cannot be sucussed in the same manner as LM's.
Best wishes.
-Jacob.
Hahnemania last decade
Dear Busy, yes it's true Hahnemann EXPERIMENTED with the Centesimals in the same manner that he later used the LM's, and obviously this was the means by which he came to his conclusions that a further scale was needed, and how to dose this scale.
However, he developed the LM's not primarily for sensitive or weak patients, or for those that did not respond to Centesimals, but to 'develop potencies of a much more refined and potent medicinal action'. The LM's of coure being immeasurably stronger in action and refinement than the old clumsy Centesimals.
He also completely denounced the use of Centesimals after the development of the later scale of potency, frequently asserting such things as 'what I said in the 5th edition, has now been replaced by further experience' etc. He also of course DID develop the LM's, and one has to ask why he would have done so if he was happy with applying Centesimals in this split dose manner.
At least this is the conclusions III have drawn from viewing some of the literature.
While I respect SOME of David Little's assertions, he does have some very odd notions regarding this subject (the use of LM's), particularly dosing, which I have found to be mostly incorrect from my own 8 years of experience of using them, not only on patients, but on myself.
However, he developed the LM's not primarily for sensitive or weak patients, or for those that did not respond to Centesimals, but to 'develop potencies of a much more refined and potent medicinal action'. The LM's of coure being immeasurably stronger in action and refinement than the old clumsy Centesimals.
He also completely denounced the use of Centesimals after the development of the later scale of potency, frequently asserting such things as 'what I said in the 5th edition, has now been replaced by further experience' etc. He also of course DID develop the LM's, and one has to ask why he would have done so if he was happy with applying Centesimals in this split dose manner.
At least this is the conclusions III have drawn from viewing some of the literature.
While I respect SOME of David Little's assertions, he does have some very odd notions regarding this subject (the use of LM's), particularly dosing, which I have found to be mostly incorrect from my own 8 years of experience of using them, not only on patients, but on myself.
Hahnemania last decade
Interesting!
It's amazing I have yet to find a single homeopath who agrees on anything! :)
Thank you for that solid explanation!
It's amazing I have yet to find a single homeopath who agrees on anything! :)
Thank you for that solid explanation!
busymominme last decade
Haha, for sure, although there is at least more agreement amongst classical Homoeopaths, as we tend to stick to the founding principles. I guess you're right though, everyone seems to have interpreted the subject differently, and only time will tell who turns out to be right in the end, as there can only be one truth in any subject, and it always comes to the surface eventually ;)
-Jacob.
-Jacob.
Hahnemania last decade
Oh - yes, that is true! But once past the founding principles it's all fair game.
While there can only be one valid 'proof' to a truth, I always theorize there are many truths in the end as what holds true for one will be based solely on their experience and view of the world which will be entirely different for the person sitting next to them. But that is a subject for another day. :p
While there can only be one valid 'proof' to a truth, I always theorize there are many truths in the end as what holds true for one will be based solely on their experience and view of the world which will be entirely different for the person sitting next to them. But that is a subject for another day. :p
busymominme last decade
But this is individual sense of reality, which as you say, varies for everyone. Actual TRUTH though...is absolute ;)
And indeed for elsewhere/another time, we have convos like this all the time on JCS, heh.
Best wishes.
-Jacob.
And indeed for elsewhere/another time, we have convos like this all the time on JCS, heh.
Best wishes.
-Jacob.
Hahnemania last decade
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