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My personal experiences in treating alcoholics.

Hello all,

I happen to have experience in treating hundred of alcoholic patients. Actually mostly their wives came to seek for help.

Yes I have tried Sulphuric Acid the way Rajiv’s thread mentioned but results were not so good. Yes in some cases people reported they felt physically better and sulphuric acid also helped in their alcohol related gastritis.

Among all alcoholics about 1/3 had craving for alcohol and 2/3 had no major craving but mostly emotional issues, they stayed away from alcohol but when they went near bottle and then for days, there was no control. Yes, major alcoholics are this way.

Most alcoholics I found were very emotional kind. I experimented with many medicines and finally a mixture of Pulsatilla 3x and Nux Vomica 3X worked best.

Lost potency pulsatilla and Nux vomica trimmed off their emotional peaks and helped them to survive without alcohol and once they gained the momentum, potency was gradually increased by diluting the liquid.

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  kuldeep on 2006-11-07
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
Say No to mixtures.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
Who told you? Dr. Luc-ky.
 
kuldeep last decade
Many.

Hahn, Dr.GV, Dr.Luc, Dr.Hering, Dr.Nash, Dr.Vijayakar, Dr.Farrington, Dr.Boger, Dr.Tylor, Dr.Allen,Dr.Stuart,David Little...many, many more.

Never heard these names? Pity.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
No-Doctor-Gavini, I am offering all these people a proven method to treat alcoholism from my own experience. An innovation.

But Sir you are a FOLLOWER, you do not look at any fresh innovation because anything new is not present in old books that you FOLLOW.

Unfortunately I dont' know these fellows and they dont' know me too.
 
kuldeep last decade
Let a few of those 'hundreds' of patients send me a testimonial, with their real addresses.(not web aliases)

Otherwise, it is an empty claim, just for self glorification.

It is impossible to 'cure' real alcoholics, with the concoction you suggest.

The days of people believing everything that is said here,as gospel are gone.

Any advice should stand to scrutiny, and should be defendable logically.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
Dear Fellow Gavini, I have not even concluded this thread. I have just started it.

Everybody knows that your busness is to stand in the way of any innovation here.

Or we can use an ideom:

Someone else's dog.
 
kuldeep last decade
I made medicine from this mushroom. Mushroom is found all over the world.

An allopathy prescription medicine 'Disulfuran' is also made with this medicine.

Tomorrow I will discuss few cases and process I used treat alcoholics.

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kuldeep last decade
strated with an inappropriate advice. Hence the breaks.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
'Disulfuran' is also made with this fungi/mushroom

Name is Coprinus cinereus, other famous name is Inkcap.
 
kuldeep last decade
Coprinus cinereus mushroom helped me best. Will write more tomorrow.

Another picture.

I am posting many pictures because this medicine is not available on the stores, new proving by me. If one can identify this mushroom, one can make a medicine.

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kuldeep last decade
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here is the another one.

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kuldeep last decade
Dear Kuldeep and Rajiv,
A lot of people, including me, would like to hear about your experiences with treating alcoholics.

Unmindful of Murthy's rude interjections..please tell us about your experiences.
(Because of Murthy's rude interjections...Dr. Deoshlok has not really returned to this site).

Also tell us about suitable meds for smokers.

Thanks,
Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
About Murthy's silly interjections...(it is sad the way he interjects).

Why can't he consider that doctors who have over 20 years of practicing experience also seek information from their peers about each-others experiences with treatments and innovations they have implemented.

He behaves like a kid from the neighbourhood, who keeps coming before your car each time you take your car out from the garage.

Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Silly...

No,they are not silly.

If I call your interjections as 'stupid' ,you will feel hurt.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
His sole intention is to sabotage this website for some other party.

I mentioned earlier:

Someone else's Dog.
 
kuldeep last decade
Murthy...no use repeating your stuff again and again.

If people are not following your line of thought...means they have experiences and convictions that are different.

You are dealing with intellignet people...if they find wisdom in your line of thought...they will not hesitate to use it for their benefit.

If others are not 'throwing' names of books...doesn't mean they have not read the books.

Homeopathy is an Art...not a Science..as I have reminded many times....so variations in methods and convictions will occur.

Many people who come here...want to listen to all the views and then make up their own mind.

Saying a view point once is fine...rubbing it in again and again ..sorry.... shows lack of maturity.

Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
All people won't read all threads.

Not even a single patient should try these 'mongrel' therapies, without being warned.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
My sole intention is to save patients.

Elephants move on keeping their heads up, while dogs bark at them.

They just ignore them.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
Yes Murthy dog is here on the way of elephents.

Another saying:
Small dog big bark.
 
kuldeep last decade
Coprinus cinereus mushroom
Also called Ink Head.
English medicine Disulfuran' is/was also made with this mushroom but in these days Disulfuran is mostly made synthetic so it is not that potent as mushroom

Mushroom is edible, does not show any indication or character of poisonous mushroom. In later post I will show how to identify a poisonous mushroom.


This mushroom is famous for its anti alcoholic effect.

How to use this mushroom in curing alcoholism:

Eat one whole mushroom or dry mushroom and make a powder. Potentize it to 2x. Take three doses a day thrice a day.

Action:

Initially people would still have the craving for alcohol, first day there probably may not be any effect (in half people). Second say after few pegs, people feel sick feeling and stop drinking further.

Sick feeling:
Feeling to vomit,
Hot flushes on the face.
Debilitation.


If they are willing to quit alcohol, they follow the treatment voluntarily (most do) They still enjoy initial one or two pegs but are unable to go any further.


In diabetic people more doses are needed. Somehow their body needs a bigger and lower potency dose. Let’s say 2 mushrooms.

NOTE:
These mushrooms are edible; Chinese/Koreans and other Orientals eat these. Are sold at some Chinese stores and also sold at Chinese medicine stores.
People who eat these mushroom, very well know its reaction with alcohol.

Grows at every moist/shady place. One can easily grow it. Just crush the powder of a mushroom at a moist shady and mossy ground in summer.
 
kuldeep last decade
In the absence of mushroom one can try English medicine Disulfuran in potentized form. Make crush the tablet and add into one liter of water.

Synthatically made Disulfuran may not work in most cases.
 
kuldeep last decade
from:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coprinopsis_atramentaria

Consumed with alcohol, Coprinopsis atramentaria is toxic. Symptoms include facial reddening, nausea, vomiting, malaise agitation and palpitations and arise 20 minutes to 2 hours after consumption. The fungus contains coprine, which blocks the action of acetaldehyde dehydrogenase, allowing the buildup of acetaldehyde in the body. Acetaldehyde is an intermediate metabolite of ethanol and is responsible for most symptoms of a hangover.

Although very unpleasant, the syndrome has not been associated with any fatalities. The symptoms can occur if even a small amount of alcohol is consumed up to 3 days after eating the mushrooms.
 
kuldeep last decade
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kuldeep last decade
Poisonous Mushrooms.

Note the ring at the top of the stem and a pouch at the bottme of it.

All poisonous mushroom contain either top ring or bottom pouch or both.

The mushroom in the picture is a deadly death-cap.

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kuldeep last decade
Common Ink Cap mushroom
Notice ring and pouch are missing.

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kuldeep last decade

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