Dear Moderator - Someone is cheating here

HAHAHA! Ethics?!

Oh thankyou, thats the best belly laugh I've had in ages.

Why can't there be a PANKAJ VERMA?

Many people are there who spell their name like that in India.

Is it fair to delete the ID simply because it looks similar to the one, which is already existing.

There can be a Moody, Mody, Moddy and so many variations.

Will you keep on deleting all those IDs?

Murthy

My name is PANKAJ VERMA. That's spelled with an E. This is not to embarrass anybody. This is the name my mother gave me. It's a very popular name in India. When you google it, you'll see thousands of hits. Thank you.

Whatever the motivation, the undeniable fact is, it is confusing. Mr Verma, I have changed your username to P.Verma.

thank you

And I have now banned Mr Verma for posting an innapropriate photograph.

Murthy, Jacob, your immediately coming to Mr Verma's defence on his choice of name does make it look a bit like you are implicated in this. Maybe you are, and maybe you're not.

I appreciate the efforts of both of you in trying to help people on this forum, but please respect other members. This includes other people trying to help people, and especially those who come here looking for help.

Dear Simon

The doubt you are having shows that you still don't have enough confidence in me, which is unfortunate.

I have nothing to do with this Pankaj Verma, and I have only told that there can be any number of Pankaj Vermas, and you can't delete the ID, just to avoid the confusion.

Yes, you can modify the ID.

Anyway, it shows you have a soft corner towards Pankaj. He got away with calling me scroundrel ,idiot and what not, and the action you took is simply to delete the post, without even a semblance of warning.

Had it been anybody else, he would have been straight away banned.

Any way, it is your discretion and I am nobody to question it.

However, even a doubt which you express as a moderator, should have some basis.

Mr.Simon, the moderator need to be cautious while making a comment.

Regards

Murthy

Murthy,

'Yes, you can modify the ID.'

Thank you for your kind permission. I have also banned him, for posting a gratuitously revealing image. Is that Ok with you, too?

'Any way, it is your discretion and I am nobody to question it.'

That's right. I would thank you to remember that.

'However, even a doubt which you express as a moderator, should have some basis.'

Well, as you ask, the basis is that Mr Verma's very first post was entirely antagonistic towards Mr Varma, and that seems to be the thrust of most of his posts. It is reasonable to conclude that it is someone who has taken a disliking to the latter in the past. As you and Jacob Scott are the members who feel that way, and you both had a lot to say about how the member's name was justified and reasonable, it is no great leap of imagination to say I think it is one or other of you.

'Mr.Simon, the moderator need to be cautious while making a comment.'

Actually, Murthy, no I don't. More than anyone else here, I can say whatever I like. If I want to promote a particular point of view, there is no law, person or system to prevent me simply silencing anyone who disagrees with me.

However, I CHOOSE to try and achieve a fair and balanced forum. If I don't quite achieve that, and you feel my decisions always come down against you, then I'm afraid your options are simply to put up, or shut up. Arguing with me will not help.

Best Wishes,
Simon

Dear Simon.

Actually, I have come to no ones defence, I have not even addressed Mr vErma. I merely stated that other people had sent me links to the sites of this other person.

And may one ask, if Pankaj vErma was indeed the username of an innocent person, and as you had no idea this wasn't the case at the time of changing their name, why should this be done to appease Mr vArma? That would again seem like some kind of preferential treatment to me, and as Murthy states Varma has been givn no such 'reprimand' once again for his comments.

I must also say your entire post above is very defensive, but finally we are getting to the truth. You have your PERSONAL opinions here like everyone else, and obviously these encompass a degree of preferential treatment to the likes of Varma, and this must not be questioned.
At least you are not still trying to maintain this is because of 'forum rules', and I must say, this post above was actually quite revealing.

Now, I don't know about Murthy, but the 'do as we say and not as we do', or 'put up or shut up' approach never did quite work with me even as a child, which you should be reminded none of us here are (perhaps with the exception of Varma), and simply stating 'I'm the daddy, I have the tools, you will do as I say' doesn't really cut it I'm afraid.

Blatant dishonesty and obviously hiding motivation is always transparent Simon, by the need to silence rather than discuss, and this is the main difference between us, I just try to get to the truth,in ALL situations, you on the other hand are defending your PERSONAL opinions, there is no place for the latter within the former, and the former always wins, so silence/delete/ban away, I will keep coming back until we get to the truth about this, which I strongly suspect is how it has already been told, and when you admit this, I'll be on my way ;)

...have a nice day.


-Jacob.

I am a new guy, but I find the tone of the moderator vey interesting.

putup or shutup.!!

Well said.

Dear friends,

I apologise to anyone in advance if he or she feels offended by my post.But i think i need to say this.

First point is that it is not always necessary to meet fire with fire and brimstone with brimstone.Those who stoop below a certain level of decency do a certain thing which they perhaps are unable to see because they are blinded by their urge for power, and that is THEY STOOP.Now, when you stoop, you expose yourself as a very poor quality person to the whole wide world.Now someone aspiring to be called a 'homeopath' and on top of that a good human being certainly cannot achieve that by 'hitting below the belt all the time'.It is best to leave such a person alone and soon his destiny will catch up with him.Because one gets back with interest what one gives to others, and it may be at the forum and in real life.If you hurt others you get hurt yourself sooner or later.

Now the more reasonable members who are really knowledgeable about homeopathy and care for people should realise that by engaging their attention on 'stoopers' they are getting distracted from their studies as well as constructive activities at this forum.We are here to serve the people and those who are willing to serve should always sacrifice their self (ego or pride) for the sake of the people.Because by getting BANNED we cannot serve anyone.Not on this forum at least.In the long run the 'stoopers' will get sorted out from the true 'homeopaths'.

And that is irrespective of what anyone thinks about this matter.Truth always comes out if one has the conviction to stand by it at all times.

For me, i am not here to please or displease anyone inclluding the moderator.I am here to serve people and to educate them about correct principles.I hope that people similar to me would also ignore the 'stoopers' and concentrate on their work of helping the people.

With warm regards,

Rajiv

grk2006,

you are not a new guy at all, you are Murthy! If you're going to do that sort of thing, ask Jacob to show you how to use a proxy server ;)

Jacob,

Here we go again.

As I said, the whole point is that I choose not to silence anyone on the basis of my personal feelings. Some would say, in fact, reading the 'introduction to homeopathic medicine' post, that my opinion on homeopathic matters differs from those whom I'm accused of favouring.

However, my role here is not to have my opinions made sacrosanct, but to provide a friendly forum.

Despite differing in approach to me, Joe, Pankaj, etc, until recent events, were only ever cordial towards other forum members. This has lead me to think of them as fair minded gentlemen, unless severely provoked. Maybe I'm worng, but this is the impression that I have formed. Your own posts have often been less friendly, so yes, I have formed an impression (perhaps wrongly), that you have a tendency to be aggressive. Maybe that counts against you sometimes; not consciously, but like anyone else, I do have a memory.

That's why judges have juries; ABC homeopathy doesn't; but I honestly do TRY to be impartial, and I only ban someone when the rules have obviously been breached. But if I miss, and a decision I make is unfair, then there is nothing you can do. Complaining will not help. If I 'flip flop' as the result of complaints, most members would be banned, reinstated, and banned again on a daily basis, and I would spend every waking hour going back over every post ever made to find out who threw the first stone, perhaps with 12 good men and true to help me.

Even if I had beleived Mr Verma was the innocent you are making out, his name could cause confusion. This is not the first time a name has been changed for this reason. If somebody opened a username of JCS2oo6, and you emailed me to tell me, you would be right to expect me to change their name too. And I would. What's the problem with that?

As for your parting shot, ('...I'll be on my way') some of your posts are useful to the forum, and I hope I haven't admitted anything that will make you feel compelled to leave ;)

Go ahead; quote me, misquote me, accuse me. I have nothing else to say on this matter.

Best Wishes,
Simon

well said Rajiv

I wish Murthy listens to you atleast now.

Incidently, Jacob, please email me (address in profile) the links to the sites of Mr Verma that you have been sent, as this would go some way to making me correct my assumption that he was a ficticious character invented for the purposes of argument.

Dear Simon

It may be a coincidence that, my style and Murthy's style match.

May be our ISP's too, since I too am from India.

Ayway, it really doesn't matter.

I really wish Murthy will concentrate on educating and prescribing when possible.

[moderator comment: me too. perhaps you have more influence over him than I do...]

I have been reading all his threads, since the last few months. I decided to log in now, and relieve him from the duty of exposing pseudo homeopathy.

If he permits me, I will take it up on his behalf.

I wish Murthy concentrates on more important things.

Regards

This quotation is for Murthy and I hope that members will pardon me for posting it here.

To Murthy

You may like to read this quotation from Aldous Huxley carefully:

'At least two-thirds of our miseries spring from human stupidity, human malice and those great motivators and justifiers of malice and stupidity: idealism, dogmatism and proselytizing zeal on behalf of religious or political ideas.'

Aldous Huxley

I would like to add the word Homeopathic to the last line which should then read as:

'zeal on behalf of religious or political or Homeopathic ideas'.

Yes.Rajiv

Confine yourself to Homeopathy. I am here to rub the people on the wrong way; give discourses on Babas; and do many other things.

Leave it to me.