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Zero tolerance

I believe all the regulars who post here want the same thing - a peaceful, pleasant forum, where people can be helped, and we can all extend our knowledge and exchange ideas.

What we have is a hostile environment, where people needing help feel sidelined by personal disputes, and any questioning intended to develop one’s personal knowledge, is taken as a sign of weakness and something to be laughed at. This is serving nobody.

All the regulars are a part of this state of affairs, and we all have a responsibility to put it right. You can not rely on me to do this.

What follows is an assessment of what a few key individuals can do to help put matters right. It is, by necessity, personal. My intention is not to cause offence, but simply to make public the things that each individual is doing to exacerbate the situation, and point out unacceptable behaviour.

If you find someone not doing what is asked of them, however minor, please tell me through the email address in my profile. We do not need vigilantes. Do not respond on the forum, just let me know. People will be warned (if they haven’t been already) and banned as appropriate. If you don’t respond at all, it is much easier for me to remove offending posts without leaving the forum looking like someone is having an argument with himself.

Should anybody fail in what is asked of them on this thread, they will be suspended. Yes, many of you have discovered how easy it is to come back after a banning, but it is also easy for me to remove all the work of your new incarnation at a stroke, and I will do this.

So, in no particular order, here is what is required of you all:

Joe, you are an admirable fellow; full of boundless energy in your 8th decade, and equally full of the will to help people. However, your prescriptions rely too much on your own ‘discoveries’, and never have you tried something and found it did not work. Other members (Murthy, for instance) take exception to your prescriptions; they do this not because they take exception to you, but because they doubt your findings. If someone contradicts you, it’s not an attack, it’s a learning opportunity - make allowance for their doubting too. Express your point of view, let others express theirs, and let the patient decide.

Murthy, people come here seeking answers. Your posts, where you say “this is not homeopathy” will not help, even if you are right. The reason being, people simply ignore you. If you want to help, you needpeople to listen to you; if you want people to listen to you, you need to show interest in them; you need to get your hands dirty and ask them questions, and then suggest a remedy based on your analysis. It often seems that you put strictly classical principles above helping hte patient. Surely, in any form of medicine, the patient must come first. If they are being cureded by non-classical methods,then they are being cured and that is what’s required; in these circumstances, there is no need to add anything. Also, please drop any other IDs you may be using.

Jacob, your approach is too rigid. By your admission, you were asked to leave one of the leading UK colleges after 3 months, as what you were learning was not what you already knew. It is possible that you are right and the college didn’t know the subject they were teaching; however it is also possible that they did, and thatyour teachers had a few cases from expereince. Like Joe, you need to admit that there is room for flexibility, and not get so confrontational when people disagree with you. Express your point of view, let others express theirs, and let the patient decide. You also have a habit of over reacting to any perceived slight. If you are provoked, you can still respond, but please do so by sending me a quick email.

Kuldeep, one ID is enough. You have written some great posts on botany, and the forum is richer for this contribution. However, your ridiculing of other forum members needs to stop right now, however subtle you believe it to be. In your eyes, they started it, so all is justified, but they have long since stopped, except for responding to your provocation, and now you must stop. No more sniping, no more analogies.

Nesha, your language is in general too harsh. It is off-putting to new members. Please tone it down, or leave. Your posts were tolerated for a long time because the forum needed a classcial counterpoint, but this is now being provided by other members, and if you can not change your tone, I would rather you took it elsewhere.

Pankaj, your intentions here are noble, and in the past, your posts were generally cordial, and well mannered. However, recently your posts to certain members have become more and more provocative. It may not be how your comments are intended, but it is how they are perceived, and perception is the essence of communication. Read through before posting, and remove anything that can be considered to be offensive.

Well, that’s it. I look forward to a lasting peace, whether it means banning noone or everyone...
 
  moderator on 2006-12-05
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
I agree, thank you.
erika :)
 
erika last decade
Simon

An over due and wise action, but nevertheless taken. Thanks for trying to restore some normalcy and peace in this forum, and I would request all the homoepaths (classical or neoclassical), to forget about the past, and start helping patients first and each other later.

Recently I went to see a reknowned homeopath Dr Nadir, who has successfully cured many cancer patients, he has been practising homoepathy for the last 30 years, and when I asked him about what homeopathy is, he scratched his head and replied he doesnt know what homeopathy is, he still feel like he is a class 1 student of homeopathy. I guess you guys get the drift

Thanks again Simon

regards

sazim
 
sazim last decade
Incidently, you no longer need to email me, you can just use the 'Report post to moderator' link at the bottom of any post.

Best Wishes,
Simon
 
moderator last decade
Dear Simon,

This was needed for a long time.

Some of my comments were made when people.... who were banned ....came back instantly and then posted even more offensive remarks with a changed id.

I did not enjoy making those comments and surely those comments would not have come about if you had taken this action before.

... All along I felt very sorry for people who were waiting for replies to their questions regarding ailments.
I also pointed it out to some of the aggressive people here..more than once... and actually requested them to look at the unanswerd posts from the help seekers.

Anyways, I am glad that you have taken this action...

Best regards,
Pankaj Varma
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Dear simon,
Please also provide the facility of editing and deletion of our own post.It is necessary.

sajjad.
 
sajjadakram635 last decade
Dear Sajjad,

I know many forums provide this, but in my view, it only leads to confusion as people then reply to posts that are no longer there/ or no longer say the same thing.

Best Wishes,
Simon
 
moderator last decade
Dear Simon

I was not able to login as Gavinimurthy. for some reason.

Can you please look into it.

Meanwhile I logged in as classical.Since I am making it clear that I am no other than Murthy, and signing as Murthy, I hope, this will not pose any problem.

Sorry to bother you.

Murthy
 
classical last decade
Murthy,

You were suspended for this:

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/96029

However, this was my mistake as the above post was posted before the final warning yesterday. Your old ID will work now.


Joe, if you have a similar problem, you were suspended because of:

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/96482

Please email me to arrange your return.

Simon
 
moderator last decade
Thank you, Sir.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
Dear Simon

How about sending some members to Dale Carnegie Boot Camp?

So we all can make friends and then fill the objective of influencing people.

Otherwise learning clinical homeopathy can be done here by sharing and caring.
 
kuldeep last decade
Kuldeep,

I think a meeting of everyone would be a fine idea, as it's good to become more than writing on the screen to each other.

However, I don't think we could foot the bill for this, as everyone is so widely scattered about the world.

Simon
 
moderator last decade
Dear Simon

My above post was for amusement only, BUT how about sending some people Arnica free?
 
kuldeep last decade
Arnica is a good first aid medicine, and we welcome to have it in our kit.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
Kuldeep,

I didn't realise you sent gifts to the members of your site; that's very kind of you.

It would actually cost quite a lot to send it to everyone here though; the shipping alone is $18.00 to India. It's hard to draw the line at who deserves a gift, and who doesn't, and we have over 20,000 members. Plus Arnica has taken on a political role on this site.

Simon
 
moderator last decade
How about whoever makes 1000 posts gets a joepathy kit free? In the matter of days this site will touch sky.
 
kuldeep last decade
I know about a site which rewards itself with bloated number of views, to show better statistics.

The first view shows 1, if you visit the same page again, the view count icreases to 3, and the next view makes it 51.!!!

I don't think abc need any campign of promotion, and I am sure will not resort to such gimmics, as there is no need.

It is already the most popular homeopathy forum, and our efforts are to make it the best in terms of quality also.

There is lot of improvement already, and in a few weeks, it will achieve that objective also, with the new rules in force.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
correction..

the present sequence is 1,2,3,20,51.!!

murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
Sir Gavini

Actually we are planning a different strategy.
We will reward users for their time and eneryg, on the basic of frequent flyer miles.

Example: Whoever makes 10,20,30……. Threads
Will be given a certificate of: Student, Bachelor, Lecturer, Professor, Doctor, Proctor, Dean….. Governor -Of-Homeopathy.

And whoever makes 500, 1000, 1500, 2000 …….. Posts
Will be given a certificate of: Journeyman, Apprentice, Doctor … Of-Homeopathy.

Currently we are keeping people happy by views. Just to avoid Gang-Wars and Gang-Shootings. But this site sells medicines so why not reward Enthusiasts by giving them whatever sells here. Also many pharmacies in Argentina and Uruguay has started selling Joepathy kits.
 
kuldeep last decade
I heard they are selling them in Kudrivar and Monosult also.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
Kuldeep,

Obviously, you can do what you like on your site, and I wish you all the best with it.

However, we will not be offering any form of reward.

Best Wishes,
Simon
 
moderator last decade
Dear Simon

Since war is over, so please keep a room for some humor too. Now this site is not just a hospital but more.
 
kuldeep last decade
Brouht up specifically for Gavin Murthy, so he read it again and stop playing vigilantee.
 
kuldeep last decade
Dear Simon,

I really appreciate your suggesions given above.
We must know that 'Best pursuit of Almingty God is the Service of the mankind'. Visdom is a gift of God and
Sympathic behaviour towards the patient and colleague is the key success of the forum.

dr. mahfooz
 
Mahfoozurrehman last decade

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