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Bedwetting in oldest three boys and none of the 5 youngest siblings. HELP!

Hi, I am a Mother of 8. My oldest three (ages 10,9, and 8 are all bedwetters. None of the younger siblings (who are out of diapers) have troubles. The only thing that we can think of that is different about the children would be that the oldest three had their imunizations as babies. The younger ones did not.

We havebeen trying to find something to help for year now. We have tried a homeopathic blend from Natures Sunshine that contains Ammonium Carbonicum6x,Cina 6x,Equisetum hyemale 6x, Benzoicum 8x, Verbascum shapsus 8x, with purifed water and glycerine. It is in drop form and they have been on it a couple months. Does anyone know of anything that will take effect any quicker? I used the software on this website to see what it said and it recomeded Belladonna. I just have no idea what potency, how often ect.. or even if it will work. My children will be heading to a competition and will be sleeping with other boys their ages. They are very nervous ad stressed about this. We have been trying but I can't seem to find anything that will help them.

We have alo tried not drinking after 5 8:30 is bedtime)

Waking them at midnight and again at 2. Some nights we catch it most we do not and it is so hard to keep that up for the Parents.

We have tried alarms, but the alarms do not sound some nights and sometimes theboys will sleep through it.

All three are hard sleepers and are had to wake.

One of the boys has accidets durring the day on occasion.

Any advice?

Like I said, the only thing different between all of these boys is the fact the oldest three who have the problem have been imunized. Theygo to the same school. Same teachers, same friends, same family, Parents who work as a team in raising the boys. No worries about ever seperating, ect....

I am not surewhat more I can say, but any help would be very much appreciated.

Thank you for taking the time to read my post.
 
  MommyofMany on 2007-02-27
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
Please see my post reply of an earlier post of date on the subject and give the same answers. However, the medicine you have selected through web is also correct if it is due to dread dreams. Bell-200 at night time daily would help you. Try and report after a week.

Dr. Mahfooz
 
Mahfoozurrehman last decade
i think u should also try the following tip:

give the child one teaspoon 'HONEY' just before an hour of sleep.
it helps to strengthen the water retention power of body

plz reply if u have this working just tried on my younger brother with results.
 
livex last decade
Thank you Dr Mafooz.

Out of your list My children say they have...

1. No fears unless it is the fear of people knowing they wet the bed. There is no reason for fear in the family or environment away from home either.

2. They all say they only dream sometimes and when they do it is about flying, being on a boat, or other good things. None are scary to them. One says he has had the dream that he got up to go to the bathroom once but actually found himself wetting himself. Another said the only time he had a bad dream was after he saw a scarey movie on TV before bed when his Uncle came to be with them for an hour. They just usually don't talk about dreams so I had to ask.

3. We wondered if they could have had parasites, so we had them tested. They were found with a worm but it was treated and retested to come out negative two years ago. We just tested recently because a girl at the school was found to have worms and it was still negative.

4. Only one of my boys has accidents durring the day and has to run to the bathroom often. The other two can hold on for awhile. It just seems that when they are sleeping they just can't seem to wake or don't feel the urge. Our son with a week blatter is practicing control of his blatter while in the bathroom to eliminate. He hs been doing much better, yet still has nightly problems.

5. We don't see any other symptoms. They all sleep fairly heavily, and we can wake them to find (sometimes) that they are already wet before midnight, and do so again between midnight and morning.
Most of the time the smell of urine is strong in the room in the morning, but all three sleep in the same room together, so that may be why. They can wear diapers or pull ups and overfill them most nights. Lately they have been doing better on that betwetting tonic we have been using (Not overfilling the pullups), but it does not seem to be totally kicking the problem after 3 months time.

As I said in the first post. The only thing that the three boys have in common that the others do not is the fact that they were vaccnated as babies. They had other reactions to the vaccines also, but they have nothing to do with bedwetting that I know of. They were all brestfed babies. Two till 7 months, and one till 18 months. Each one of the boys who were weaned at an earlier age were still nursed after the 7 month mark, but supplimentally fed with formula. It was due to having another on the way right away that I had weaned them. They all seem to have the problem to the same extent though.

If there are any other factors that may be of help, please let me know and I will be glad to give you the info. I just appreciate the help.

I have the Bell 200c on the way. Thank you for everything. I will keep in touch.
 
MommyofMany last decade
We have been using our local honey durring the day for allergiy reief. I will give it a try before bed to see what happens. I figure it would not hurt to try...

Or would it be one of those things that may interfere with the effect of the Belledonna?

Do you know?

Thank you for the reply!
 
MommyofMany last decade
well i m not a homeopathy but i think it shouldnt be so .may be others can reply on it.

one more thing the fact that medicine will have effect is mostly temporary one and once u stop medicines it comes back in child.
 
livex last decade
It will be easy for me as well for you to take better care of your children, if you give me separate thread of each. Could you please provide the following information of each separately?
Patient ID: Sex: Age: Nature of work: Habits:

Describe your main suffering?
What other physical sufferings do you have in your body?
What mental sufferings / feelings do you have associated with your physical sufferings?
When did it all start?
What are the things which aggravate or ameliorate your suffering?
When do you feel better, during hot weather or cold weather, humid or dry weather?
What do you crave for in food items and what are your aversions?
How is your thirst: Less, Normal or Excessive?
How if your hunger: Less, Normal or Excessive?
How is your bowel movement and stool type (Constipation etc.)?
How sleep, how are your dreams?
Do you have any strange, peculiar or unusual symptom or feelings?
What medications have been taken earlier?
How do you look like (Appearance)?
If your are female how is your menstrual cycles (normal, irregular, painful, clotted, colour etc.)
Family history - What major diseases are running in your family?
Any other information?
 
Mahfoozurrehman last decade
Try gelsimium 6 daily one dose for a week and report me. it will cure your bedwetting try it and report me
dr.deoshlok sharma
 
deoshlok last decade
dr.deoshlok sharma

is it for any 'age group' specific medicine ?
 
livex last decade
To: MommyofMany

You said:.... 'The only thing that we can think of that is different about the children would be that the oldest three had their immunizations as babies. The younger ones did not.'

In this statement, you have found the CAUSE of your 3 eldest children's problems.
Not only have their kidneys been damaged by the vaccinations, but other organs have been harmed too.

Vaccines are a witches brew of poisons, viral fragments, dead and dying organisms. Millions of children (and adults) throughout the world suffer because of the practice of vaccinating. Most allopathic doctors think they are doing good by vaccinating people. They have NO CLUE, and don't even bother to read the 'inserts'.

As an example of a vaccine, let me share some information from an 'insert'.

My comments are in [ ] brackets.



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For reference look at the 'year 2005 Strains'. [VAXIGRIP is 2006 Strains]
http://home.intekom.com/pharm/ranbaxy/mutagrip.html

VAXIGRIP (Influenza Vaccine (Split Virion))

COMPOSITION

This vaccine is propagated on eggs. It is then split, purified and inactivated ......

[Parents sometimes wonder why there children are allergic to egg or chicken products. The answer is simple, antigens from been 'propagated in egg'. Other vaccines are propagated in other tissues, including human stem cells, thus causing auto-immune diseases.]

[This vaccine, as MOST use formaldehyde to 'inactivate' the virus. Follow this link to see if formaldehyde is safe. http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/mhmi/mmg111.html ]

INDICATIONS [This is a list of people who the vaccine manufacturer thinks should be given the vaccine]

1. Persons who are at risk for influenza and its complications because of underlying medical conditions and who are receiving regular medical care for conditions such as pulmonary and cardiac disease, chronic renal diseases, diabetes mellitus and similar metabolic disorders and individuals who are immunosuppressed (including HIV infected persons with CD4 counts above 200/ml

2. Residents of old-age homes and chronic care rehabilitation institutions.

3. Children on long term aspirin therapy.
....
6. All persons over the age of 65.
Etc....

[This partial list is a list of people with weak immune systems, and therefor they in particular SHOULD NOT have any foreign poison matter injected directly into their blood stream. When we get to 'contra-indications' and 'side effects' you will see how there own data contradicts itself!]

CONTRA-INDICATIONS

1. Persons with allergy to the active substances, any excipients, egg or chicken protein, Neomycin, formaldehyde and octoxynol-9.

2. Persons with acute febrile illness or acute infection should preferably be immunized after the symptoms have disappeared.

[Look here to see what an 'excipient' is: http://www.ipecamericas.org/public/faqs.html ]

[Look here to see what 'Neomycin' is: http://www.drugs.com/MTM/neomycin.html
From this page, notice this:
Neomycin may cause damage to the kidneys and/ or nerves

Do not take neomycin without first talking to your doctor if you have:
-- kidney disease;
-- other medical problems or if you take other medications.
-- Etc...

Now look back to INDICATIONS, point 1, you will see that the vaccine is recommended to be given to people with 'chronic renal diseases', this is in violation to their own CONTRA-INDICATIONS, point 1, 'Neomycin'. ]

[Look here to see how dangerous 'formaldehyde' and other ingredients are: http://www.vaccination.inoz.com/ingredie.html
Do a google for 'octoxynol-9', and ask yourself WHY this is in a vaccine?]

SIDE-EFFECTS AND SPECIAL PRECAUTIONS:
......
Vasculitis with transient renal involvement.
.....

[Look here to see what 'Vasculitis' is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasculitis ]
[Again look back to INDICATIONS, point 1, you will see that the vaccine is recommended to be given to people with 'pulmonary and cardiac disease, chronic renal diseases'.. Etc. These are the very people who HAVE Vasculitis. It almost appears that this vaccine and others are meant to cull certain population groups!!]

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As you have no doubt gathered, I am opposed to ALL vaccines.

To see how dangerous vaccines are start by reading this:
http://www.alternative-doctor.com/downloads/Cry_of_the_Heart....

The below document will give you some guidelines to follow with treating your children.
Homeopathic solutions to vaccines:
http://www.alternative-doctor.com/downloads/Homeopathic_Vacc....


*Note* If you do nothing but only give them good healthy food, The bed wetting should STOP at age +- 18 to 19 years old.

I suggest you take you three children to a Homeopath or Naturopath and inform them about the vaccine damage you suspect.

God Bless,
Tim
 
TimCam last decade
bravo 2 timcam

my younger brother got sam eprob , now he is trying honey as remedy which is after using homeo med too.
 
livex last decade
I want to thank you all for your replies. I just received the Belladonna today. I will try that with the children first. Then I have written down the gelsimium so tha I can use it if we do not see the results we would like, but I want to be careful to watch for reactions to the herbs. I am all for herbs. We tend to use them now before/instead of going to the Dr's. I just figure that there is more harm in trying out chemicals than there is with the good plants God created

To Dr. Deoshlok...
Their ages are 10,9 and 8 years old. The herbs they have been on are labled for kids 6 and up. I have written down the gelsimium so that we can try it later if we see no results from the Belladonna. Than you!


To Tim..... I am glad you replied. We stopped the imunizations when my 3rd child was 9 months old due to a pattern we were seeing in them. The Dr's could find no reason for the breathing difficlties that my sons were having, and I could not have my almost 3, almost 2, and 9 month old on nebulizers with albuterol every two hours, night and day, and still turn blue around the mouths. It was too frightening. We tool them to the Pediatricias, the sent to allergists. They sad no allergies, Only thing the Dr's could say is that 'it looks like Asthma, but it isn't that. We don't know what it is.' It seemed to get worse after the shots, so I looked online and saw (Not the same reactions to shots) cases where parets had their children imunized and ended up losing their babies due to it. I then made the decision that if I don't know what my children are getting in their systems I will not give it to them, and started researching everything. Even herbs... We had no idea that the imunizations might harm them long term. We were not told. You only hear of a red spot around where the shot was administered and slight possible fever with fussiness. That alone bothered me, but we were told it was madatory and found out that was not true. (Gullable parents with the first children...). I did my research.

When My Mother found out I had stopped giving them to the boys she told me that one of my brothers and myself had reactions to the vaccinations. I ended up with epilepsy as a teen due to a very high fever as a baby and my brother went blue (No breath) with no reasons from Dr's. After he was revived Mom and Dad decided that there would be no more until we were older, so we did get them but after we turned 6, and my Parents were mocked for it. I wish I had known it sooner.

Yes, the bedwetting is 'heredetary' according to Dr's. My husband did so and I did as well, and I never did outgrow it until I was 18. Very embarrassing. I want better for my children. I want them to be confident and to respect themselves. So far they are okay, but the older you get the harder it is to be tolerant with yourself.

I really do think that the imunizations are the cause.

I see the questions that Dr. Mahfooz lists, and many do not have good answers.
For example....

Describe your main

suffering? BEDWETTING

What other physical sufferings do you have in your body? NONE OF THE BOYS HAVE ANY.

What mental sufferings / feelings do you have associated with your physical sufferings? NONE

When did it all start? NEVER STARTED> JUST NEVER STOPPED WETTING THE BED TO BEGIN WITH>

What are the things which aggravate or ameliorate your suffering? BEDWETTING>

When do you feel better, IT IS ALWAYS THERE>>

during hot weather or cold weather, humid or dry weather? ALWAYS THERE>

What do you crave for in food items and what are your aversions? THEY ALL HAVE GOOD APPETITES AND EAT ANYTHING WE PUT IN FRONT OF THEM> MAIN CRAVINGS ARE FRUIT> THEY LOVE IT>

How is your thirst: Less, Normal or Excessive? NORMAL

How if your hunger: Less, Normal or Excessive? GROWING BOYS> THEY HAVE GROWTH SPURTS>

How is your bowel movement and stool type (Constipation etc.)? NORMALly 2 TIMES DAILY IS THE ANSWER THEY ALL GIVE> IF WE DO PIZZA OR NOODLES (RARE OCCASION) IT WILL BE ONCE THE NEXT DAY> NORMAL STOOL> NOT LOOSE OR HARD>

How sleep, how are your dreams? AVERAGE BOYISH DREAMS ON OCCASION> THEY SLEEP SOMEWHAT HARD>

Do you have any strange, peculiar or unusual symptom or feelings? THEY ALL ANSWER NO

What medications have been taken earlier? AS BABIES THEY WERE ON THE ALBUTEROL WITH THE NEBULIZER> THAT THE IMMUNIZATIONS ARE THE ONLY THINGS DIFFERENT BETWEEN THE KIDS>

How do you look like (Appearance)? THEY ARE OKAY WITH APPEARANCE> THEY LIKE THE WAY GOD MADE THEM> THEY JUST DON'T FEEL GOOD ABOUT THEMSELVES DUE TO BEDWETTING>

If your are female how is your menstrual cycles (normal, irregular, painful, clotted, colour etc.) ALL MALES

Family history - What major diseases are running in your family? ONE GRANDMA HAD CANCER> SHE LIVED PAST THE 6 MONTH MARK THAT DR's GAVE HER> USING HERBS AND CHANGING HER DIET> > ACTUALLY DIED OF PNEUMOONIA LAST YEAR. LIVED 11 YEARS AFTER BEING DIAGNOSED WITH 6 MONTHS LEFT TO LIVE. FELT GREAT BEFORE THE PNEUMONIA.

GRANDPA HAS ASTHMA AS AN ADULT.

GREAT GRANDMA ON DAD'S SIDE HAS DIABETES. OTHER GREAT GRANDMA HAS ARTHRITIS. THAT IS ALL WE KNOW OF.

NO SMOKERS OR ALCOHOLICS IN THE FAMILY.

Any other information? NOT SURE WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR.

I am not sure what else to say. All I do know is that I appreciate th time you have all put into reading and replying to my posts. It is honestly good to know there are others out there, willing to give advice and help when needed.
 
MommyofMany last decade
Bedwetting:

Please try the medicines as follows:

1) EQUISETUM HYEMALE-30 thrice a day in wet dose (3 drops)

2) CAUSTICUM-200
One doze after 4 days at night in wet doze (3 drops).

Precaustions: Do not give them liquids 2/3 hours before going to bed.
Ensure to urinate them before sleeping.

Dr. Mahfooz
 
Mahfoozurrehman last decade
I have 7 children, almost all are/were late bedwetters. Only the first 3 were immunized. One of those is the only child who never wet the bed. I hate vaccines, and have an injured child, but I don't believe vaccines are related to bedwetting.

Honey has been a great help to my kids! I give them a big tablespoon of it before bed and it works! It doesn't totally stop it, but it makes it happen so much less. I think most honey works but had the best results with local honey. Not sure why.

I have also tried natural bedwetting pills that I can buy right at my local grocery store, and those have worked well, too.
 
Qtpies7 last decade

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