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homeo remedy made out of urine

this might sounds nuts but what could be better than a remedy made out of our own urine????

any thoughts????
thank you
 
  tiredova on 2010-02-17
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
There's a concept of taking auto nosode meaning making remedy from one's own material. But blood would be more appropriate than urine. And since it's a nosode it's to be potentized till 200c or 1M which is not possible for lay people and it's better to get support from relevant people to make auto nosodes.
 
maheeru last decade
what do you mean auto nosodes?

sorry, I am not familiar with all concepts!
thank you
 
tiredova last decade
Nosode you can google out. In simple words nosodes are remedies prepared from sterilised disease material. For example tuberculinum. Auto nosode means the disease material from the patient itself.
 
maheeru last decade
thank you

and who would be able make it in 200C or 1M in europe?

thank you again
 
tiredova last decade
You can talk to pharmacies(dealing with homeopathy) near your vicinity to do this for you.
 
maheeru last decade
Thanks
maheeru
For your information. I also heard this auto nosodes, and autopathy.But it needs more research i think. but i think a mans own materials are nice similia to them, so it might be worked so deeply i think.If we collect all symptoms from a patient(General, particular, and constitutional) then we will get a remedy picture that represents his total similia. But if we use as a medicine of that persons, blood or urine or anyother then it will represent his best similia as wel his best remedies i think.But potentization is a factor for every persons. but if we use suppose 6c, or 30c whats the problems. And how we can prepare 200c potency at home? is there any quick method. More posts from experts are expected here.
Thanks

Here links-http://www.autopathy.info/autopathic-self-treatments.htm
 
alamreza last decade
Homeopathy has nothing to do autopathy. If a person is having cold and his symptoms are acrid discharge from eyes and bland discharge from nose, allium cepa is the remedy. If a healthy person eats/cuts onion he will develop the same symptoms. Due to this symptom similarity allium cepa (onion) can cure a sick individual having same symptoms.
In autopathy such symptoms similarity is not there. An autopath may be interested in potentized nasal discharge or eye discharge as a remedy. This has nothing to do with the theory of homeopathy.

Thanks !!
 
kadwa last decade
>The law of similars isn't ambigious - a substance that causes certain symptoms in a healthy person can cure similar symptoms when found in a person that has not taken that substance (a sick one).

Thanks , I thought that law of similar is about potentized substances .

I see homeopathy , tautopathy and isopathy as information medicines - potentized substances are used .

For instance if some potenized substance carries information which is similar to disease then it can cure patient .

And what is more similar than person own saliva ?

And from what you wrote use of nosodes violates law of simlars - if give to healthy person
initial substance it will not have any affect .

The same about remedies such as Desert Scorpion , Feathers of Falcon et cetera .

From what you wrote use if these remedies is not homeopathic .

>It is applied to the patient based on some other theory, usually an assumed internal cause.

In autopathy no internal cause is assumed .

>when someone applies the principles in the Organon uniformly.
Organon itself very ambiguous and unclear .

Links--http://www.autopathy.info/




http://www.minimum.com/b.asp?a=autopathy-cehovsky




http://www.homeorizon.com/homeopathic-articles/homeopathic-p....
 
alamreza last decade
Alam reza I suggested 200c and upwards because of the nature of medicines i.e they are going to be auto nosodes. Nosodes are not advisable to give low below 200c.

Some of your links do give ideas to prepare auto nosodes. Yes these are ideas about saliva or blood being representative of the total organism. There could be some other product too that contains the essence of the organism. Yes it's a worthwhile approach to be researched.

One can google out the potentizers which can help one prepare remedy in home itself (One of your links has some device to prepare a autopathic remedy at home). But if it's going to be disease product i'd always advice caution to take proper help of pharmacists so that the end product is safe.

Also check out some of my earlier posts(recent ones about potencies and triturations) to see how liquid potencies and solid potencies can be prepared.
 
maheeru last decade
Thanks
Maheeru,
For quick reply and for your interest in Auto pathy. Actually wherever i saw any post about Auto pathy most homeopaths were against of this, i dont know the reasons. bt whenever a truth is coming such situations occur,bu we have to research it. However the links that i ahve posted, shows a ameture method of potentization. Suppose they mentioned ,if we take 10ml material and mix it with 40 ml and then shake well it will be 40c. How it is possible? I dont believe their system,regarding hanemans procedures.
Maheeru you told about your post concerning potentization. Pls give me those links, so that i can see it.
One hoemo doctor told that we can potentize the blood upto 6X or 6c and can use it. Whats your comments about it.
Thanks
 
alamreza last decade
Alam reza

Have a look at following links please:

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/211956/ (solid potencies)

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/205648/

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/204785/

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/204270/

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Yes you're right, 10ml with 40ml won't make 40c. The ratio would be 1:100 for c potency. So if 10 ml of material is used, the solvent will have to be 10x99=990ml of water/alcohol for it to be 40c. In short one part of medicinal substance has to be added with 99 drops of water/alcohol or 99 parts of lactose to make 1c.

In amateur preparations yes, the calculations won't be so precise, most would have the material in a bottle and they would keep the bottle under the tap. They consider keeping the bottle under the flowing water would make approximate potencies. Similarly we have some more amateur methods. Unless it's a simple thing like smoke remedy as i ve mentioned in one thread, i'd prefer proper method.

Yes one can potentize the blood to 6x or 6c. But in my opinion nosodes shall not be given low. Here some homeopaths can differ. So if i suggest somebody to make blood remedy, i'd either suggest atleast 30c or 200c.
 
maheeru last decade
I am afraid that most want to show their in depth intelligence! The question was 'remedy made out of urine'. This is an old established remedy taken by indiginous people especially of South and Central America. The basic idea; and they might not be too far off, is to drink ones own urine when sick with a long lasting cold. There are natural antibodies that your body produces when it is fighting off an illness. Nothing to do with the dangerous extraction of blood! The practice of drinking one's own urine is still being used in many cultures. It is not hightech!!
 
willduit last decade
what the hell...its sickening to say the least..
 
sinner last decade
It is information to all that self urine don't need to be potentized.Here is a quote from uropathy.SELF-THERAPY METHODS
Excerpt from Nexus Magazine
The middle stream of fresh, warm, morning urine is the most potent, and drinking it mixed with freshly squeezed orange juice is probably the fastest way to accomplish this task, although it is best not to mix urine with other foods or drinks or to take it within an hour before or after eating.
Oral drops of fresh urine can be placed directly under the tongue. Urine therapists suggest their patients start with 5 drops of fresh morning urine on the first day, increase to 5 or 10 drops on the second day, and take 10 drops on the morning of the third day and the same amount that evening before going to bed. Once patients feel comfortable with this therapy, they can gradually increase the amount as they see fit to obtain the results required for their body's condition. Over time, they can learn to adjust the amount that is needed by observing their reactions to the therapy; their dosage may become as much as one full cup at a time!
Self-urine may be used as eye drops and ear drops, in foot baths and even as effective enemas. Nose drops can help loosen mucus and clear up blocked nasal passages. Gargling with it is helpful for a sore throat, and inhaling it relieves sinus and respiratory congestion. Taken internally, it has a laxative and diuretic effect, as it cleanses the digestive tract.
Dr John Armstrong (author of The Water of Life) emphasises the need to massage with urine. He insists that cures work faster and more effectively in those who are bathed, massaged, rubbed and soaked in their own urine. He highly recommends it for more serious illnesses, since urine is absorbed through the skin and the hormonal and protein-based contents are slowly reabsorbed into the system, bypassing digestive juices that otherwise may have neutralised their potency. In this way, it also works as an excellent cosmetic for moisturising and healing skin blemishes, burns and scar tissue. However, for this usage, it is preferable to use urine that is 4 - 8 days old. The smell of ammonia in the old urine is not toxic but actually beneficial if used topically only, and not taken internally.
Do you have a question about urine therapy or need guidance? Larry Erb volunteers his time to provide guidance and support in your quest to find relevant information. He can be reached at 206-350- 0102 (USA) If you prefer you can email us or click here to use the contact form .
Urine therapy is not just for humans...
 
Dr.Haran ch malaker last decade
Dr. Haran Nailed the answer. Congratulations. You read the question. The answer was right on. Thanks for posting on this. Sincerely Will
 
willduit last decade

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