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Attn: Joe De Livera
I am sorry to repeat the same question about Arnica liquid but when I order, the pharmacy tells me that Arnica 30c in liquid form is 20% isopropyle alcohol and Arnica tincture is (1x) and 45% isopropyle alcohol but 1x is more concentrated than the liq 30c. They have not heard of an Ethanol pack. Can you please explain and help me with that?And Nat Phos 6x tablets or tincture? Thank you,
Starlight1 on 2011-01-06
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
Please inform your pharmacy not to mislead my patients by suggesting the the Liquid Potency in Ethanol of Arnica 30c which you state I have already prescribed for you (I do not remember doing so), is:
'Arnica 30c in liquid form is 20% isopropyle alcohol and Arnica tincture is (1x) and 45% isopropyle alcohol but 1x is more concentrated than the liq 30c.'
This is utter rubbish !
Isopropyl Alcohol is Propanol which is a POISON and cannot be taken orally as it affects the liver. You may like to know that Methanol is equally poisonous and will cause death if anyone takes a shot of the alcohol.
Ethanol is completely different from Propanol and you must get the remedies from a pharmacy who are aware of the basic chemistry used in medicine which they as a pharmacy must be aware of.
Suggest you contact another pharmacy in your city.
Nat Phos 6x is a Biochemic Cell Salt and cannot be confused with a tincture of Nat Phos which is never used.
Please post your queries in future on the original thread to enable me to follow up on the therapy prescribed.
'Arnica 30c in liquid form is 20% isopropyle alcohol and Arnica tincture is (1x) and 45% isopropyle alcohol but 1x is more concentrated than the liq 30c.'
This is utter rubbish !
Isopropyl Alcohol is Propanol which is a POISON and cannot be taken orally as it affects the liver. You may like to know that Methanol is equally poisonous and will cause death if anyone takes a shot of the alcohol.
Ethanol is completely different from Propanol and you must get the remedies from a pharmacy who are aware of the basic chemistry used in medicine which they as a pharmacy must be aware of.
Suggest you contact another pharmacy in your city.
Nat Phos 6x is a Biochemic Cell Salt and cannot be confused with a tincture of Nat Phos which is never used.
Please post your queries in future on the original thread to enable me to follow up on the therapy prescribed.
♡ Joe De Livera last decade
Thank you for informing about the isopropanol. I called the Standard Homeopathy and then also talked to their pharmacist; they have not heard of an ethanol pack and claim that their products have ispopanol in them. Please suggest a pharmacy if you know of. I live in Florida.
Also, you have wrote to post my queries on the original thread and I am not sure how to do that?
Please advise, thank you again.
Also, you have wrote to post my queries on the original thread and I am not sure how to do that?
Please advise, thank you again.
Starlight1 last decade
I am not aware who Standard Homeopathy are and if they still insist that the Liquid Dilution in Ethanol is supplied in PROPANOL they are just talking utter rubbish.
You are advised to mail order your supplies from:
Washington Homeopathics
www.homeopathyworks.com
1 800 336 1695
You are advised to mail order your supplies from:
Washington Homeopathics
www.homeopathyworks.com
1 800 336 1695
♡ Joe De Livera last decade
Does Nat Phos tincutre not work in the same way as 6x? What is the difference?
kohler last decade
To Kohler
Please address your question to one of the classical homeopaths on the ABC as I cannot spare the time to teach you homeopathy.
Please address your question to one of the classical homeopaths on the ABC as I cannot spare the time to teach you homeopathy.
♡ Joe De Livera last decade
You are a very rude man and I'm glad you are not my homeopath. Costs nothing to be polite - were you never taught good manners Joe!
kohler last decade
To Kohler
You may like to know that I have survived for 82 long years with my own philosophy of life and this includes manners which I have passed on to my children and my grandchildren as my philosophy dates back to the first quarter of the 20th century when culture was at a far higher level than it is today. It is very likely that you are much younger than me and are only influenced by the culture of the present age which is a far cry from what it was in the first half of the 20th Century.
A good example of this modern culture is the gunning down of Gabrielle Giffords with 6 others in Arizona just yesterday and it may serve as an eye opener to you and to others who do not know the value of what true cultural values are all about.
I note that you consider me rude because I requested you to:
'address your question to one of the classical homeopaths on the ABC as I cannot spare the time to teach you homeopathy.'
This is in answer to your question:
'Does Nat Phos tincutre not work in the same way as 6x? What is the difference?'
I merely indicated to you that I was not able to spare the time to do so and suggested very politely, that you post your question to the other homeopath on the ABC who tries hard to teach homeopathy to visitors to this forum:
'address your question to one of the classical homeopaths on the ABC as I cannot spare the time to teach you homeopathy.'
Quite frankly I fail to detect what you find RUDE in my response to you and the reason for your unpardonable outburst:
'You are a very rude man and I'm glad you are not my homeopath. Costs nothing to be polite - were you never taught good manners Joe!'
I agree with you completely that it 'Costs nothing to be polite' but you insult me by insinuating that I have 'never been taught good manners'
And look who is trying to do so !!!
Looking over a few of your recent posts on the ABC, I can see that you are a woman with a very short fuse and in your own interest you are advised to seek assistance from the classical homeopaths on this forum as you will otherwise continue to wreak unnecessary damage in your own home life, making it a living hell for those whom you consider family.
It is obvious that your culture and mine differ vastly and this may perhaps account for your outburst which I consider is in very bad taste especially on a forum like the ABC which has over 10000 hits daily and is open to the whole world. The mere fact that you may have been peeved by my reply does not give you the right to state publicly that I am a RUDE man who as I stated before is all of 82 years of age. I know that I am NEVER RUDE in my responses to my patients as can be verified by you on this forum and I am sure that patients whom I have treated throughout the past 9 years will testify to this fact.
In conclusion I would like to reassure you that I would not even dare to treat you with my own brand of Homeopathy which is now accepted internationally as 'Joepathy' as I feel that it would only be a waste of my time which I can otherwise expend on treating cases that appreciate my therapy.
You may like to know that I have survived for 82 long years with my own philosophy of life and this includes manners which I have passed on to my children and my grandchildren as my philosophy dates back to the first quarter of the 20th century when culture was at a far higher level than it is today. It is very likely that you are much younger than me and are only influenced by the culture of the present age which is a far cry from what it was in the first half of the 20th Century.
A good example of this modern culture is the gunning down of Gabrielle Giffords with 6 others in Arizona just yesterday and it may serve as an eye opener to you and to others who do not know the value of what true cultural values are all about.
I note that you consider me rude because I requested you to:
'address your question to one of the classical homeopaths on the ABC as I cannot spare the time to teach you homeopathy.'
This is in answer to your question:
'Does Nat Phos tincutre not work in the same way as 6x? What is the difference?'
I merely indicated to you that I was not able to spare the time to do so and suggested very politely, that you post your question to the other homeopath on the ABC who tries hard to teach homeopathy to visitors to this forum:
'address your question to one of the classical homeopaths on the ABC as I cannot spare the time to teach you homeopathy.'
Quite frankly I fail to detect what you find RUDE in my response to you and the reason for your unpardonable outburst:
'You are a very rude man and I'm glad you are not my homeopath. Costs nothing to be polite - were you never taught good manners Joe!'
I agree with you completely that it 'Costs nothing to be polite' but you insult me by insinuating that I have 'never been taught good manners'
And look who is trying to do so !!!
Looking over a few of your recent posts on the ABC, I can see that you are a woman with a very short fuse and in your own interest you are advised to seek assistance from the classical homeopaths on this forum as you will otherwise continue to wreak unnecessary damage in your own home life, making it a living hell for those whom you consider family.
It is obvious that your culture and mine differ vastly and this may perhaps account for your outburst which I consider is in very bad taste especially on a forum like the ABC which has over 10000 hits daily and is open to the whole world. The mere fact that you may have been peeved by my reply does not give you the right to state publicly that I am a RUDE man who as I stated before is all of 82 years of age. I know that I am NEVER RUDE in my responses to my patients as can be verified by you on this forum and I am sure that patients whom I have treated throughout the past 9 years will testify to this fact.
In conclusion I would like to reassure you that I would not even dare to treat you with my own brand of Homeopathy which is now accepted internationally as 'Joepathy' as I feel that it would only be a waste of my time which I can otherwise expend on treating cases that appreciate my therapy.
♡ Joe De Livera last decade
kohler last decade
'Does Nat Phos tincutre not work in the same way as 6x? What is the difference?'
yes, it will not work the same way as 6X.
The difference is that the Nat Phos Q, the mother tincture, the crude drug substance, is used to produce homoeopathic potentised form 6X that is one of the cell salts.
Please understand that MOTHER TINCTURE is the original standardized preparation of a substance from which homeopathic potencies are made.
Potentisation is the process of minimising, rather negating the toxic effects of the crude drug substance and increasing its dynamic, curative property.
I hope and pray that this will answer your question to avoid any confusion.
Regards
Nawaz
yes, it will not work the same way as 6X.
The difference is that the Nat Phos Q, the mother tincture, the crude drug substance, is used to produce homoeopathic potentised form 6X that is one of the cell salts.
Please understand that MOTHER TINCTURE is the original standardized preparation of a substance from which homeopathic potencies are made.
Potentisation is the process of minimising, rather negating the toxic effects of the crude drug substance and increasing its dynamic, curative property.
I hope and pray that this will answer your question to avoid any confusion.
Regards
Nawaz
♡ nawazkhan last decade
To Kohler
'You know nothing about me Joe! And I have posted on here and still am waiting for reply!'
I am indeed surprised that you still continue to bug me to demand what you consider your RIGHT of a reply from me, merely because you posted a question here on the ABC. I presume that you are unaware that we the prescribers here on the ABC, do a voluntary service in using our knowledge of the Science of Homeopathy to help patients whom we feel we are competent to advice.
We are under no obligation to do so but in my case and I presume this is common in the case of all of us, we do so as we are motivated by the desire of being of some help to the patient to relieve his/her ailment. It is the satisfaction that I get from treating a case successfully that keeps me active at my age here, even at the expense of having to waste my time on responding to critics and some like you who are downright RUDE in your attitude towards your peers.
You stated : 'You know nothing about me Joe'.
You are perhaps unaware that anyone can access all the posts that any poster has made on the ABC merely by clicking on your name which appears on the subject line above. It is after doing so that I stated in my last post addressed to you:
'Looking over a few of your recent posts on the ABC, I can see that you are a woman with a very short fuse and in your own interest you are advised to seek assistance from the classical homeopaths on this forum as you will otherwise continue to wreak unnecessary damage in your own home life, making it a living hell for those whom you consider family. '
It is not essential to meet a person face to face to evaluate the personality behind that face and it is after reading some of your previous posts that I have given you this advice.
In your own interest it is my hope that you will take it.
'You know nothing about me Joe! And I have posted on here and still am waiting for reply!'
I am indeed surprised that you still continue to bug me to demand what you consider your RIGHT of a reply from me, merely because you posted a question here on the ABC. I presume that you are unaware that we the prescribers here on the ABC, do a voluntary service in using our knowledge of the Science of Homeopathy to help patients whom we feel we are competent to advice.
We are under no obligation to do so but in my case and I presume this is common in the case of all of us, we do so as we are motivated by the desire of being of some help to the patient to relieve his/her ailment. It is the satisfaction that I get from treating a case successfully that keeps me active at my age here, even at the expense of having to waste my time on responding to critics and some like you who are downright RUDE in your attitude towards your peers.
You stated : 'You know nothing about me Joe'.
You are perhaps unaware that anyone can access all the posts that any poster has made on the ABC merely by clicking on your name which appears on the subject line above. It is after doing so that I stated in my last post addressed to you:
'Looking over a few of your recent posts on the ABC, I can see that you are a woman with a very short fuse and in your own interest you are advised to seek assistance from the classical homeopaths on this forum as you will otherwise continue to wreak unnecessary damage in your own home life, making it a living hell for those whom you consider family. '
It is not essential to meet a person face to face to evaluate the personality behind that face and it is after reading some of your previous posts that I have given you this advice.
In your own interest it is my hope that you will take it.
♡ Joe De Livera last decade
Thank you for very much for the help with liquid Arnica; I did confirm with washington homeopathy that it is an ethanol pack and not ispropyle (according to the other pharmacy).
Starlight1 last decade
Nat.phos is not available as 'mother tincture'.
It is erraneous to call all crude substances from which homeopathic medicines are made as mother tinctures.
The word mother tincture is applicable to only plant extracts.
Minerals and chemical compounds that won't dissolve in alcohol in their crude state are always triturated with milk of sugar initially. Upto 3c is normally produced by triturarion and there after they become soluble in alcohol/water. Further potencies are made by using water/alcohol.
Murthy
It is erraneous to call all crude substances from which homeopathic medicines are made as mother tinctures.
The word mother tincture is applicable to only plant extracts.
Minerals and chemical compounds that won't dissolve in alcohol in their crude state are always triturated with milk of sugar initially. Upto 3c is normally produced by triturarion and there after they become soluble in alcohol/water. Further potencies are made by using water/alcohol.
Murthy
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
♡ gavinimurthy last decade
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