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Joe De Livera - Cure My Mother

Age: 48
Gender: Female

Diagnosed: Osteo Process and Arthritis

Tests:
ESR: Between 30-40
Vitamin D: Between 10-25 (After taking supplements)
Uric Acid: Usually Normal


Respected Joe;

My mother is treating from OsteoProcess and Arthritis since last 3 years. We do not know when does it started but we know 3 years back she was in extreme pain of back, inflammation between neck and ribs, difficult to walk and difficult to move, headache, pain in joints.

Different doctors treated her differently, initially they injected some steroids/jelly injections between the lower discs as they said the Disc Bulged L3 and L4 and they were even ready to operate the discs but somehow we changed the doctors. Other doctors had tried different medicines this last for 6 months with no improvement.

Finally we went to a Orthopedic Surgeon / Specialist who had diagnosed not a disc problem but OsteoProcess and Arthritis. He is treating with Vitamin D Injections, Different Type of Calcium (Osteo Care, Dolmit..etc) and some medicines for decreasing the ESR in body.

She is in great pain from last few months.
-Pain is increasing every day
-The right arm is getting difficult to move due to inflammation between neck and ribs (right side) and same has been started at left side.
-Pain in whole body
-Pain in joints
-Pain in back side of foot difficult to stand and walk

I am more concerned as she lives out station while my Job is 360lm far from home. I need your assistance and I can guide my mother with treatment on phone.

Please cure my mother and I will remember you in my prayers, always!
 
  arazas on 2011-08-05
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
Your mother at age 48 seems to be too young to present both Osteoporosis and Arthritis which you indicated was identified 3 years ago when she was still 45 years old.

Let us start her off with the following remedies and you will report weekly on her progress.

Arthritis

Argentum Metallicum 6c
Arnica 30c

Both remedies to be taken in the Wet dose twice daily.

She will continue with the Calcium that she is taking but will not take any other drugs and steroidal injections as these are all counterproductive.

The Wet dose of any Homeopathic remedy is made as follows:

Order the remedy in the Liquid pack in Alcohol, also referred to as Liquid Dilution in a bottle preferably with a dropper arrangement.
Get a 500ml bottle of Spring Water from the nearest supermarket.
Pour out about 3cm of water from the bottle to leave some airspace.
Insert 3 drops of the remedy into the bottle and shake the bottle hard at least 6 times before you sip a capfull of the bottle or a large teaspoonful which is the dose.
Shaking the bottle hard is homeopathic succussion and this enhances the effect of the remedy on the user.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
logging....
 
Nikkie last decade
I well understood.

Argentum Metallicum 6c (Wet Dose twice daily)
Arnica 30c (Wet Dose twice daily)

I will buy this two remedies from local store and send to my mother. She will receive both the remedies in next two days. I will surely report you after 7 days of taking these remedies.

God Bless You Sir - I love my mother, I pay you special thanks.
 
arazas last decade
Respected Joe, First of all I greatly apperciate your help.

Info:
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After 3 days of searching in all town homeo stores, I was able to get the one Argentum Metallicum 6 potency. (30 is available easily but it was hard to find Argentum Metallicum 6 anyway)

Latest:
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My mother has started taking Arnica 30c from two days back. I just sent courier the Argentum Metallicum 6 tonight and she will start taking this remedy also as soon as she will receive it.

Situation:
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-She is not agreed to quit taking pain killers, She feels alot pain and she can not move if she do not take pain killer pills she said. What do you suggest in that case? When I insist she cry.

She is taking following medicine as I just asked her again:

-Calcium (1500mg twice daily)
-Vitimin D (once or twice a month)
-Fefol or Folic Acid (Daily)
-Some pain killer
-Some medicine for sleep as she can not sleep well due to pain in muscles/joints.

Please You Suggest:
Which medicines from above are strictly disallowed in your treatment? as you advised to drop all during your treatment.

Note: She had stopped all other medicines like some koneen / steriods.

Further I can send you any pathology test reports she had, like CBC, Uric Acid, Calcium, Vitamin D, ESR..just incase if you need to study the situation further.


I once again Thank You for giving your precious time for my mother healthy life.
 
arazas last decade
She must stop all Pain medication as it will antidote my therapy.

She must also take Arnica immediately before bed as it is more powerful than the sleeping tablets she has been taking for some time.

If she still suffers from body pain she can take:

Hypericum 200 in the Wet dose every 3 to 4 hours and she will discover that the joint effect of Arg Met and Hypericum will enable her to turn a new page in her life hopefully without any pain.

It is essential that she cooperates and follows my advice as otherwise I am only wasting my time trying to help her.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Thank you for replying.

She will follow your advise, my promise. I will be buying Hypericum 200 today and I will send her this remedy too.

Thank you for your time.
 
arazas last decade
Ok, great news is that I just called my MAMA and she is agreed to discontinue those medicines.

Further she will be taking Hypericum 200 only if pain will not stop. Before this I will wait for the response of Arg Met.

I assure you that your precious time will not be wasted.

Thank you alot.
 
arazas last decade
Update: 10 Aug 2011

Remedy And Dosage:
Arnica 30c Wet Dose (Taking since 3 Days)
Argentum Metallicum 6c (Started Since Yesterday)

Latest:
-She had stopped all other medicines from yesterday. She is only taking Calcium in meals twice daily.

New Symptoms:
She was feeling burning sensation in whole body all day. She taken bath at morning and after that she was much relaxed but again burning sensation was increased and again she taken bath at the evening. It may be relationed to Situation I explained below.


Situation:
-One thing I was not aware of that she was also taking medicine of High Blood Pressure.
Yesterday, She felt high blood pressure which was 110/180 at 4pm. She had taken bath at 5pm and then taken Argentum Metallicum evening dose as usual at 530pm and then around 9PM BP was around 90/130.
Today she didn;t felt high blood pressure.
(She is no longer taking blood pressure medicine from yesterday as she stopped all other medicines)

-Till today pain is bearable and that is why Hypericum 200 is not yet started.

Question:
The only question, is that ok not taking blood pressure medicine?
 
arazas last decade
She can take Nat Mur 6x dose 3 tablets thrice daily for her Hypertension instead of the drugs she was using.

Your report of her BP at 180/110 is high and this may have been the reason why she reported that burning sensation which was partially settled by the 2 baths she took. I would normally have suggested her to take the drugs for her BP but this will not be necessary today as her BP is near normal now at 130/90. Request her to bathe as often as is possible preferably in lukewarm water as it seems to me that bathing helps her.

I presume that she has a Digital BP gauge with NEW batteries. Old batteries tend to give high BP readings. If she replaces the batteries she must use the Alkaline type.

Patients have usually responded to the Arg Met therapy in 3 days but I have had a case in office who was suffering from acute pain climbing stairs that responded in just 2 hours when all the pain and discomfort ceased.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
I am great full for your help.

-Yes, she owns a Casio Digital Gadget for checking BP. The first thing I would be doing is to replace with pair of alkaline batteries.

She would be starting Nat Mur 6x for Hypertension/BP. But before this I will suggest her you recommendation of taking bath frequently.

I would be reporting you again. Thanks once again.
 
arazas last decade
'Yes, she owns a Casio Digital Gadget for checking BP. The first thing I would be doing is to replace with pair of alkaline batteries.'

I presume that the BP Gauge that your mother uses is a Wrist type device as the standard large stand alone models use 4 AA batteries.

Please be warned that this wrist gauge is NOT reliable at all. I used one for about 5 years and discovered to my horror that the readings were always erratic and did not coincide with the reading taken from a standard Mercury type Sphygomanometer.

I then purchased the standard Digital BP gauge made by Omron and this coincides with the reading on the Mercury gauge.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Oops. My mistake.

She have the Casio Standard model not a Wrist type. May be it has 4 batteries I never checked it. I will call her to replace the all batteries with alkaline.

Similar to one in this pic:
http://symbios.pk/images/product_thumbnails/150_100361_ch453...

I am thankful for that warning anyway, we will never buy or use that Wrist type.
 
arazas last decade
Respected Joe,

Hope you doing good.

I need to discuss an urgent matter.

As my mother BP was shooting high, she has started taken Nat Mur 6x
3 tablets at once, 3 times in a day. She had started it from yesterday along with other treatment and till yet she has taken total of 4 doses for Nat Mur 6x tablets.

Unfortunately BP was not controlled. The current reading is 105/175.

-swatting/burning/dry tongue
-extreme weakness/laziness
-left eye seeing difficulty/closing itself




She was feeling more burning sensation than before and her left eye was near to close it self and sometimes she was feeling to see with left eye, feeling like blur/spider-net. While talking her with phone it was difficult for her to talk and she was talking in very low pace and slowly.

She had taken bath around six times which hardly relief it for less than 30 minutes only. The condition was get worst due to BP as her tounge was extremely dry for the whole day. Due to large amount was swatting she has changed the dress four times.

As it is obviously not possible to reach you all the time and it is also difficult to arrange the homeo medcine on the spot you will prescribe (because I have to courier it from 350km far), there was no other way except taking the allopathy medicne (Ascard and Co-telsan)she was taken before to recover the condition. I hope you will not mind it as until your next advise, I had to take some decision according to situation.

What do you suggest on this?

Hope you will response soon.


Two more questions:
-How much time she should wait for next remedy dose after taking first remedy dose? (she's wais 45mint for each dose)
-What should be gap of between meals/fruits and remedy dose? (she's waits for 45mint after or before meal)


*I understand no tea/coffe/cola drinks.

Thank you
 
arazas last decade
Thank you for your email alert without which I may not have responded immediately.

It is obvious that she cannot stop the drugs she is not taking for her Hypertension immediately. She must continue with them and also take the Nat Mur but at a higher potency of 200c in the Wet dose thrice daily and report her BP.

She may space out the remedies and food at 45 minute intervals.

You have not reported on her response to the Arthritis remedy and her pain level.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Great help. I apperciate your immediate response and apologize for disturbing you at this odd time.

I would buying Nat Mur 200c and send her ASAP.

I didn't talk for Arthritis today because she may not had correctly taken the notice due to high BP. I suspect there may be some error in report if I will ask her for Arthritis symptoms and relief. The only think I asked how is that pain and she said pain is same as before, so I did not asked any further question.

Status:
Arnica 30c Wet Dose (Taking since 5 Days)
Argentum Metallicum 6c (Since 3 days)
Nat Mur 6x (4 dose till today)


I will report for Arthritis in 2-3 days.

Thanks again for your great help.
 
arazas last decade
Dear Arazas,
Hope your Mother,s health is good. Cut off the SALT from your mothers diet immediately, this will help to counter High BP. Continue with the advice as told by Joe. Blurring eye behaviour was the result of High BP. Restrict from showers when the BP is shooting.

Share with us your Mothers food eating pattern (If possible).


Praying for Good health for your mother.

Regards,
Nikkie.
[message edited by Nikkie on Sat, 13 Aug 2011 06:33:06 BST]
 
Nikkie last decade
Respected Joes,

She is taking medcines as prescribed.

Status:
Arnica 30c Wet Dose (Taking since 7 Days - 2 dose in a day)
Argentum Metallicum 6c (Taking since 5 days - 2 dose in a day)
Hypericum 200c (Taking since 2 days - 3 does in aday)
Nat Mur 200c (Taking since 2 days - 3 dose in a day)

Stopped
Nat Mur 6x (Stopped after 5 dose)

Arthritis
The pain is not yet controlled but bit increased. She said sometimes it is difficult to turn / move as she feels alot pain specially in neck bones, shoulder bones, and bones down at the neck.

BP
She is now taking old BP medcines along with Nat Mur 200c. the last readings are 90/150 and 95/155 or 160 but it is bit controled as feels better for BP now. She said her BP once disturbed will take a week to fully normal using medcine she takes. When she hard started taking Nat Mur 200c, she was feeling extreem headech. Headech was much better today as today was the second day of taking that medicne.

Please advise.


Thank you for your precious time.
 
arazas last decade
I am concerned to note that her Arthritis has not responded so but we are still at 5 days and you state that it has increased. Check the origin of the remedies you sent her and if they were in 87% Alcohol or lower and what the brand is. The German product by Dr Schwabe or SBL are the best although made in India. In any case let me know the brand you sent her.

Arnica 30c Wet Dose (Taking since 7 Days - 2 dose in a day)
Argentum Metallicum 6c (Taking since 5 days - 2 dose in a day) INCREASE TO 3 DOSES PER DAY
Hypericum 200c (Taking since 2 days - 3 does in aday)
Nat Mur 200c (Taking since 2 days - 3 dose in a day)

She can STOP the BP drugs she is using as it is very likely that they are anti-doting the remedies. The readings you indicated are not at levels that can cause concern at her age and I would like to have reading every 3 days without drugs to study her response. Confirm that you are using a Digital BP Gauge with new alkaline batteries.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Thank you for your response.

-All medicines are Dr Willmar Schwabe except Argentum Metallicum 6c which is made by Reckeweg. They are all imported German made.

-If she will stop the BP medcine, what is the advise incase BP shoots up again? What actions she should take at that moment to reduce the BP?

-Yes, Digital BP Gauge but not a wrist type. I just confirmed that they have replaced it with new Toshiba batteries. I suspect they are not alkaline.
 
arazas last decade
List her BP taken twice daily with the Pulse rate in BPM.

3 readings must be taken each time one after the other and she must be in a reclining position, preferably in bed when the readings are taken. I want the average of the 3 readings and it is essential that they are not taken by the patient.

Do not be concerned with a BP reading which is technically considered high unless it stays high at over 150/90 consistently.

The Systolic pressure is accepted at 80 + the patient's age.

The ideal is 120/80 which incidentally is my own pressure at age 82.

Arnica and the Nat Mur and not Beta blockers like the drugs used by her and will take time to open up her blocked arterial system before the full effects of the Homeopathic medication is felt.

The drugs used are almost instant in their effect but the cost to the body is too great to play around with them unless absolutely essential to prevent a stroke.

Change the batteries to Alkaline.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
Respected Joe:
(I apologize asking too many questions below, but I am confused for some that is why. please help)

1) Please clear my few doubts:

-Reclining position is similar to sit back or down (not laying), right?
-That digital gauge shows pulse as well. Should we note bp and pulse or their is some alternate method to note down the bpm?

2) Arnica and the Nat Mur
-She should continue taking Arnica and the Nat Mur combination bit longer and gradually she will be fine as we are expecting. right?

3) Batteries are just changed to Alkaline.

Please also guide:
-She should top all medicine including homepathic for BP?
-what should we do incase bp shoots? How can we normal her as she will demand for allopathy medcine at that moment to recover her situation, please guide.


Another Issue:
Before your treatment she was using Arthritis medcine which was harmful for liver and kidneys,,etc. She stopped that medicine a week before your treatment. That medcine also caused for two much stomach heat caused mouth ulcers. As the infections grows she had take Augmentan for week. She was bit healing but once we started homeopathic, she stopped all medcines. Now almost one and half week is over and that mouth infection started to grow again.

no cough and flu...but while speaking some time she may couging suddenly and while eating she feels pain/burning. Also often she feels like radish/itching/irrirtation, i dont know what to call it.

What should she do with that? Please advise on this too.
 
arazas last decade
Reclining position is similar to sit back or down (not laying), right?
BP USUALLY RECORDS HIGHER WHEN THE PATIENT IS STANDING OR SITTING UPRIGHT.
BEST TAKEN IN BED.

-That digital gauge shows pulse as well. Should we note bp and pulse or their is some alternate method to note down the bpm?
PULSE IS ALSO OF INTEREST.

2) Arnica and the Nat Mur
-She should continue taking Arnica and the Nat Mur combination bit longer and gradually she will be fine as we are expecting. right?
YES

She should top all medicine including homepathic for BP?
TAKE THE HOMEOPATHY AND REPORT DIFFERENCE WITHOUT THE DRUGS
-what should we do incase bp shoots? How can we normal her as she will demand for allopathy medcine at that moment to recover her situation, please guide.
SHE CAN TAKE THE DRUGS IMMEDIATELY.
WHAT I AM TRYING TO ACHIEVE IS TO CHECK HER STATISTICS WITHOUT ANY DRUGS AS MANY DRUGS CAUSE MORE HARM THAN GOOD.

Before your treatment she was using Arthritis medcine which was harmful for liver and kidneys,,etc. She stopped that medicine a week before your treatment. That medcine also caused for two much stomach heat caused mouth ulcers. As the infections grows she had take Augmentan for week. She was bit healing but once we started homeopathic, she stopped all medcines. Now almost one and half week is over and that mouth infection started to grow again.
YOU HAVE NOT REPORTED HOW SHE IS TODAY WITHOUT THE DRUGS SHE USED FOR ARTHRITIS. THESE DRUGS ARE ONLY ANALGESICS AND DO MORE HARM THAN GOOD IN THE LONG TERM AND DO NOT CURE THE PROBLEM WHICH MY THERAPY WILL TRY TO DO IF THE PATIENT GIVES THEM A CHANCE.

I cannot advice you about her mouth ulcers which may be Aphthous Ulcers.

I am shocked to learn that she is taking Augmentin which is a very strong antibiotic for these ulcers.

I believe that she will be better helped by the Arnica she is taking.
 
Joe De Livera last decade
It seems I misunderstood or skipped something. please guide:

She had stopped all ARTHRITIS allopathy medicne from the day she strated your treament. She is only taking your medcines which are:

Arnica 30c
Argentum Metallicum 6c
Hypericum 200c
Nat Mur 200c
(If any needs to stop any time please do tell me.)

And I failed to explain that Ulcers thing. It is not Ulcers actually, I was trying to find english on google and made this stupid mistake.

I just confirmed that was a language error. It is like something in your mouth due to stomach heat on which you apply bonjilla or somojel cream and it heals. Like rash/cut/white pin size spot (dana or chaala in urdu)...i dont know it;s english in fact. sorry for that.

Status:
She does not feel any difference yet, no increase and no decrease in pain/movements/sympotmps.


One thing I want to confirm is, I am writing everything as I and my mother is doing. am I following you exactly as you are prescribing or did any mistake at any point in dosage or taking medicine?
 
arazas last decade
A quick update:
She had stopped taken allopathy medicine for BP from 17-08-2011. From today, she will be recording the BP reading twice daily (three time each with 5 minute gap)

She is taking all homeo medicnes as usual.
 
arazas last decade
18th Aug 2011 Evening BP and Pulse Readings
158/89 - 89
130/90 - 79
126/79 - 83

20th Aug 2011 Morning/Evening BP and Pulse Readings
125/87 - 74
121/86 - 71
126/90 - 72

142/88 - 84
134/87 - 74
132/89 - 76


Unfortunately the 19th readings were not recorded as due to death in family she went to funeral and equipment was not there.

After 18th Aug readings, her condition gone bit wrost, she went to a nearest lab, they checked the bp and immedately recommended to take medcine and they didnt discolosed the readings, the just said it is very high and you should take medcine immediately to avoid any risks. So she taken medcine and she was bit fine on 19th After-Noon.

The rest of condition is same as old. She is feeling increase in inflamation, which is sometimes on face around the neck bones above/upside the ribs. For you info, she had given blood for ESR test so that we can tell you about it's status too.

I will again update BP history for next one day.

Please advise us on this.
 
arazas last decade

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