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To Doctors at this Forum/ chronic throat sores of 4yrs old daughter

Hi,

I have some questions here regarding throat sores of my 4yr old daughter, which i hope doctors at this forum can reply

2months ago my daughter(4and half yrs old) had some cough,
(she often have cough problem that comes and go)
i checked her throat with light to see incase she also have tonsil
problem like her brother and i did not see any tonsils, but what
i saw was new for me. In her throat, on the throatwall,
as far as i could see, i saw that appeared like sores (3/4 sores
i could see clearly but not red in colour, more like the
colour of her throat itself)
I couldnt write the Forum as i was in other city, meanwhile
her cough went away, after coming back i saw her throat twice
and i saw same sores exactly there as if they are permanent.
*My question is that, i know only of sores that come and go away after
sometime, is there any type of sores that are chronic or stay there
unless treated?
*What could be the reason of these chronic sores?
and is it possible that the reason i was looking for her poor health
is her sores, i was never able to understand why she cant eat, why
she hold her throat when trying to eat regular meal with us which
was very spicey for her, where as we dont eat chillies and salt much
for the sake of whole family's health, i never understand why she say
there is 'mirchi' even in just chapati(bread), coz when she dont eat with
gravy i usually ask her to try to eat only chapati.
I have no idea for how long she is having these sores in her throat, but
i can tell you when her eating disorder started.
You may see this in her profile too that when she was 2yrs+4months
old she had high fever+cough, then doctor gave her Septran syrup
and that was the second time i noticed that 'Septran' made her very
restless i remember she couldnt sleep whole nights as if something
is happening to her head and after 1/2 days she also had sores in her
mouth that i could see, i discontinued the medicine, though her fever
went away but right after that she had loose motions for almost 4months,
i was very worried then why her loose motions dont stop, it was like
whenever she eat she had loose motion, she also stopped eating then,
only took milk or homemade potatochipps, and during the same time
her eyes started turning in(squint), doctors say she may have eyesight
weakness by birth which goes unnoticed till the child is 2/3yr old,
and it is due to weak eyesight that squint develops.
But i dont believe that, coz she never use to get hit with objects in her
way or never use to fall, and i can clearly remember that everything
started step by step after her fever.
Now i am not clear;
*If the Antibiotic(Septran) did that to her, like maybe her flora got
disturb?, or
*If she have inherited tendency of sores, Coz i as her mother have the
problem, that i usually dont have fever that show on Thermometer,
but then i get a specific body ach and later sores in mouth which
is the only indicator of my fever, or
*If the hot weather is responsible for her sores coz my problems also started
when i came to Pakistan, my husband says that our children are
born for cold or pleasent country because they have problem with
hot weather.
?If there is some deficiency in body that result in sores, i recently came to
know that iron deficiency can also cause sores, then this deficiency is
by birth in me as her mother, as i am thalassemia minor. i also came to
know that homeopathy recognizes human body or nature types and one among
them is 'that have tendency of making puss' is she that type?coz in recent
yrs she had the problem of boils with puss too.
About her eyes problem i still believe that as soon as her eating problems
are treated her eyes will become better and recover.

I know in a case like my daughter's physical checkup of her throat is also
important yet i need your opinion of this Forum too, because this problem looks chronic.
the alopathic doctors usually give antibiotics which is against my children's
nature, and i also read that bacterial sore and viral sores are different not
every sore can be treated with antibiotics.

My daughter's crossed eyes problem is
already at this Forum, but this post is about her throat problem which
may be the actual reason of her crossed eyes(malnutrition)
You can see her profile on this link;
http://abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/252987/

Best Regards
Hannah
 
  Hannah Hannah on 2012-06-01
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
Hi Hannah,

Give her Merc sol 30c, three doses thrice a day for three days and revert in a week on the improvement.
 
Niel Madhavan last decade
Welcome back Sir :)

I am so sorry sir, i saw your reply today, as my daughter was having fever with abdominal pain and sores in mouth, from yesterday she is on medication from a nearby homeopath, the problem here is that, we never know what remedies homeopath give her, her fever is gone now but abdominal pain come back sometime (the point of pain is around her bellybutton) also the problem of passing different colour stools every time she eat or drink something, she try to avoid eating because of her mouth sore too(inside lower lip/white/with a small hole).
Sir i'll start your suggested remedy as soon as she get better, but do you think of some other remedy for her present state? or should i continue with what she is taking?
Note:she had heat stroke about 2weeks ago and took homeopathic remedies from same homeopath, the mouth sores could be the result of that fever (or too many remedies that she took then)
*and her lack of appetite persist like always, she show sometime her developing interest in eating but cannot eat because of her throat/she is growing tall but her body has become weak both because of growing tall and inappropriate eating habbits. one point to note is that she is again eating her nails/ her nails which are already short are always in her mouth.

Best regards

Hannah
 
Hannah Hannah last decade
Let me know once she is off the current medicines. I sense we would need Pulastilla here.

Let me know of her condition once here remedies for fever are over.
 
Niel Madhavan last decade
Hi,

Sir, day before yesterday she stopped taking remedies for fever, i waited one day to check more results, now she have no fever but only her forehead gets warm time to time and i sense that is related to her abdomen (just like warm forehead of teething infants)
*Her abdomen pain was not going away+ still pass different coloured small stools after pain, so yesterday i started giving her Q-palgite(by WoodWord's) i also gave her husk twice a day,
the stool after that was binded still small in quantity and is full of membrane or web like things (amoeba maybe)
*now she still have pain sometime but less than before and stool is same
*still biting her nails
*today she have cough sometime i checked her throat the sores in her throat are at same position, they change colour day to day, sometime inflamed, sometime colour of the throat itself.
*today i also noticed that there are small white sores on her uvula too.
*the whitesore inside her lower lip has improved alot, need one more day to vanish, but the joining point of lower lip and gums looked inflamed no swelling but deep red.
Sir, i think first we should start with the remedy for her abdomen.

Note::- Sir here i would like to say THANKS for the remedy you suggested once for my father(Parkinson patient) though he still feels low, but he does not talk about dying now(no talks about taking his own life) Thankyou sir...infact one morning my brother (a yr younger than me) was going through same mental state(because of a disappointment or failure in life) and i dont know how i convinced him on phone to go to father's bedroom and take that remedy, Sir, that actually helped him, he dont talk like that again.

Best regards
Hannah

Sir, she have more cough today short mostly dry cough. and she wish for more cold drinks.
*She have some history of boils specifically in hot weather, last yr she had so many on eye/eyelids/nose, she still have small scars there, today morning she was telling me about pain in her left eyelid but i couldnt see any redness, maybe its coming, that is very painful for her, she still remember the pain and maybe she is afraid, if i see more sign ill inform you asap.

Best regards
Hannah
[message edited by Hannah Hannah on Sat, 09 Jun 2012 06:01:50 BST]
 
Hannah Hannah last decade
Hi,

She did not complain about pain in eyelid again.
Her abdominal condition is better than yesterday, complained about pain once today, passed stool twice today(hard/ light coloured).
still have some cough.
She shows variety of moods, every mood in its peak, when happy laughing/ when angry very very angry/ she is lively energetic, moving around/ doing something all the time/always busy/ she sleep well/ she likes to sleep on her stomach/ sweat mostly on upper body(head/nose/neck/shoulders)as soon as she sweat she have red rashes on her neck and color bone and if she keep on rubbing that area it get worse/ she takes bath daily.
she picks her nose and if no one around try to put that in mouth too, she usually keep her nails in her mouth, though her finger tips hurts as there are not enough nails to put in mouth yet she cannot resist.

Sir, kindly check the earlier post as well.

Best Regards

Hannah
 
Hannah Hannah last decade
Sir, I need your help and i am waiting for you to come back plz

Hannah
 
Hannah Hannah last decade
Hi,

Please continue with Merc sol 30, three doses thrice a day for three days and let me know.

One dose is 2 pills / 2drops in half a glass of water.

Regards,
Niel
[message edited by Niel Madhavan on Tue, 12 Jun 2012 06:51:48 BST]
 
Niel Madhavan last decade
Have you considered that this cough, and the fact that she has crossed eyes may be caused by parasites?

Parakletos.
 
Parakletos last decade
What parasites?
Would like to know your diagnosis.
 
Niel Madhavan last decade
Thank you Niel for your reply

About parasites she did take remedies 4 months back;
I studied at some places same diagnosis so 4 months back i consulted Dr Nawaz about that and he did prescribed remedies
These signs show possible presence of parasites;
*Grinding teeth in sleep but only when she had cough in sleep, this cough was tickling like cough followed by grinding teeth
*she likes to sleep on her stomch
*she picks her nose her hands + nails all the time in mouth
*and ofcourse crossed eyes(which actually started after Fever+throat problem when she was 2+4months)

After the remedies she took for parasites i did not see any change in her condition

now i dont know if there is any stubborn parasite in her abdomen

i'll send you the remedies she took in next post

Hannah
 
Hannah Hannah last decade
Hi,
These are the remedies;
Santoninum 200C, 4 drops in 2 sips of mineral water, One Daily Dose in the morning, for 1 week.
Also, Natrum Phos 6X, 2 tablets, 3 times a day, for 2 weeks.

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/265552/2

You can also check this thread

Best Regards

Hannah
 
Hannah Hannah last decade
Hi Niel,

Sir, if you wish to reconsider, i can check your reply later to get the confirmation, whether she should start Merc sol 30 or not.

Best Wishes

Hannah
 
Hannah Hannah last decade
In Homeopathy, our sole guide is symptoms. Santoininum is not indicated. Let's wait for the response to Merc sol.
 
Niel Madhavan last decade
Thank you Sir,

I'll inform you as soon as she completes the course.

Best Wishes

Hannah
 
Hannah Hannah last decade
Hi,

Sir, as i am in another city for vacation with kids, i managed to get the remedy 3 days after your last post.
My daughter took the last dose of Merc sol 30, 2 days ago.
Now after 2 days her status;
*There is no cough
*sometime she eats sometime not
*like before when she speaks a little loud her voice is hoarse
*I checked her throat i dont see any spots or white small sores on uvula
*her throat is a bit white in colour
*at the back of her throat wall i see the sores but a bit smaller in size than earlier.
there i also saw one or two white coloured small sores which i think i missed before.
*as we came here for vacation the very day i last wrote you, here the weather is not that hot like in lahore, but she have sometime runny nose and sometime not, in fact her brother and i have severe flu and throat pain and cough(this could be due to pollen problem here in Rawalpindi, still i am happy that my daughter only have a little runny nose sometime or maybe the remedy was keeping that under control!
*she was also about to have 2 boils on her nose, but as she started the remedy timely her red area on nose reversed and dried up.

Sir maybe for more results i should wait few more days, but i always need your guidance, kindly reply, when to inform you more about her condition?

*sir i forgot to mention, she still put her fingers in her mouth, where as there are no nails to eat, now she also have the skin just above the root of nails peeling, which hurts a lot yet she cannot resist her habit, Sir is there any remedy or cell salt for that too?

Best Wishes

Hannah
[message edited by Hannah Hannah on Wed, 20 Jun 2012 11:45:47 BST]
 
Hannah Hannah last decade
Hi Hannah,

Please wait for 2 more days and revert on the condition.

Regards,
Niel
 
Niel Madhavan last decade
Hi,

Sorry sir for late reply, it depends on availabilty of net.
The current status of my daughter is that;
*her voice is a bit better, only when she speaks loudly it become hoarse.
*no cough
*i checked her throat, sores on the wall of her throat are there/ not red /not white/ but the colour of her throat itself. But the colour of her mouth upto uvula is white/ and there are few white spots on uvula, the colour of her tongue too from back towards throat is white.
*after finishing her course of Merc sol 30, she had a small sore toward left cheek inside her lip but that subsided too.
*She dont want to eat, she always complain when she eats that she feels nausea, and she stops eating if i insist she starts crying.
*she never stop eating her nails and putting her fingers or thumb nail in her mouth.
*day before yesterday i went to ENT doctor (for my ear) i asked him to check my daughter's throat as well (to confirm that if only i see these sores or someone else too)he said yes she have some sores in her throat, he said sores come and go that is not big problem, give her some B complex and folic acid coz Anemia could be the reason.
*i try my best that she start eating properly and i believe when she 'll eat properly she'll over come her weaknesses like Anemia or crossed eyes, she dont like fruits either, she drinks less water( but when she was taking Merc sol, for 2 days she asked for water and was drinking more than usual, i was happy, other than water she prefer juices or soft drinks).

Best Wishes

Hannah
 
Hannah Hannah last decade
Please continue with Merc sol 30, three doses thrice a day for two more days and let me know.
 
Niel Madhavan last decade
Hi Niel,

My daughter took last dose of Merc sol 30 on 4th July(at night) her present status is;
*the sores in her throat look different than before, i think i see a positive change in there size, before they had a swollen look now as though shrinking, colour is the colour of throat it self.
*i still see some small white dots on uvula and on right left area near uvula.
*She is sweating a lot of course because of hot weather here, she sweat more on head/ nose/neck
*her eating problem is same old problem but now one additional comment comes from her while eating 'i feel nausea' but she dont vomit actually. she stops eating after having few bites, she really eat less which makes me worry alot, as it is her growing age.
*she still put her fingers in her mouth, which could be an additional reason of her sores and bad smell sometimes.

Best wishes

Hannah

Hi Niel,

I have problems emotional + physical. I keep on studying here n there the way homoeopathy treat a person inside out. Recently i saw somewhere that 'The king is ill and the kingdom is falling apart' and somehow i feel that s what happened in my case.
I am asking you two questions here and i hope you can help me
*My marriage was a love marriage, its going to be ten yrs now, my childhood was very bad, my youth worse, and when i got married my whole faith was in this person, i use to tell my husband that i'll start dying the day i felt he dont need me, after sometime i started feeling that i m a useless person, theres nothing good in me, i am full of mistakes and i am a failure, and that was not happening to me because of me, instead his attitude made me feel like that, i lost my hopes my dreams my wishes and finally myself.
*My first question: is it possible that what i use to tell him (i'll start dying) can actually happen, in other words 'my soul is ill and my body is falling apart' i am suffering for 4 yrs from pain and chronic fatigue, and everything seems to be progressing, i never feel good. Is it possible that my mind is working on it unconsciously?
*For last three yrs i have this strange feeling that a person is kissing me on my right cheek and neck(that i always feel on my right) and to tell you honestly i love that feeling, that happen usually when i lie-down to sleep. Now from last yr i am having some problem on my right side i.e severe headache/feel a bump or hard growth on skull near my right ear/ stiffness on right side of my neck, and now for a month i was having problem with my right ear, 2 weeks ago when doctor checked my ear there was much infection and small hole in ear drum due to which i am unable to hear clearly, it is getting better after one week course of antibiotic pills+ear drops, but headache and stiffness on right is same.
*My second question: is there any connection between the two? i mean that emotional feeling and the pain? what kind of trick my body is playing? or is this my mind?

Sir i need your help, i know you are different and have a different approach towards your patients, i may not feel comfortable at this forum, in case you need more information can i write you through email? and if not i'll try to tell you about me as much as i can.

Best wishes

Hannah
[message edited by Hannah Hannah on Fri, 06 Jul 2012 20:56:07 BST]
 
Hannah Hannah last decade
Dear Hannah,

Please give your daughter three doses of Ipecac 30 on a single day only. Observe her condition for three days and let me know.

For you: I will reply in detail at a later time., But now, I want you to take a two doses of Pulsatilla 1M separated by 12 hours each on a single day and let me know how you feel after 4 days.

Regards,
Niel
[message edited by Niel Madhavan on Sun, 08 Jul 2012 09:29:00 BST]
 
Niel Madhavan last decade
Hi Niel,

After reading your post i would like to add here that, about two months ago, after detailed study of moving body pain + i was also feeling very weepy, i decided to take Pulsatilla 200 which i already had at home, i took that at night before going to sleep and when i woke up in morning the change was amazing, i never felt like that with any other remedy before. i was feeling
*very light mentally as well as physically
*as though someone took away all my burdens that i use to feel on my head specially
*i was without any pain and stiffness (that i use to feel in my legs too)for quite some time i feel i dont raise my steps high enough when i walk that is due to tired and stiff feeling in muscles, so when i walk my steps make noise, i was not like that my steps were soundless, that day when i took Pulsatilla my steps + legs became light.
*i felt that change whole day later on i became same old Hannah with pain n fatigue.
*about two weeks after that i took the remedy again (one dose of 200) as my tolerance was crossing limits for many days. and this time i felt no change, my judgment could be wrong or may be that was not suitable time.

I am telling you all this so that you can reconfirm taking Pulsatilla ?

My best wishes

Hannah
[message edited by Hannah Hannah on Mon, 09 Jul2012 14:04:52 BST]
[message edited by Hannah Hannah on Mon, 09 Jul 2012 14:08:21 BST]
 
Hannah Hannah last decade
Pulsatilla is still the indicated remedy. Do take as suggested and let us know how you feel.
 
Niel Madhavan last decade
Hi Niel,
My daughter took Ipecac 30 as directed, she took the remedy 2 days ago and i am going to update you after 2 days. Regarding her throat sores she still have them, i can see 3 sore very clearly on front throat wall+white spots on uvula .
Regarding my remedy i am sorry i forgot to ask you one important question, i am on medication these days (Allopathic medicines)medicines for different things like; antiinflamation,deppression,calcium,zinc,phosphoras, vitamin D ampule(once a week)one is for stomach.
Sir should i wait till these medicines are over? or i can take it with allopathic medicines anyway?

Best wishes

Hannah
 
Hannah Hannah last decade
Pl let the allopathic medicines get over.
 
Niel Madhavan last decade
Hi Niel,

Sorry i was without net again.
This is the current status of my daughter;
*Before, she totally use to run away from food, now she is willing to eat, at least she try to eat, and sometime she ask me herself to give her something to eat. I hope she'll continue this improvement.
*she still sometime show signs of nausea, like when she swallow it seems this problem is related to her throat, can you imagine if a child feel nausea when swallowing water and bite the glass because of that feeling, well she did that 2 days ago and this is second time she did that in this year. she took off a piece of glass her lower lip was slightly injured but thank God she did not swallow the piece.
*I have no idea that if the above mentioned problem is psychological too, because there are few more things which give her nausea feeling, e.g when she passes stool if that is smelly, she actually feels as though she is about to vomit and at same time she sweats too specially on face + nose, similarly if i cook something that doesnt have pleasant aroma while cooking and if by chance she come to the kitchen she shows same signs of nausea, so she is sensitive, she is very caring, she notice so manythings around that usually a child of her age doesnt, she is intelligent, if she see me without slippers the next moment i find her placing slippers in front of me. she often help me find things in fact sometimes she already knows and tell me mama that thing is over there.
*Now as she started eating, she have this problem that when she passes stool, she sometime is weepy as though stool feels spicy, in other word a burning feeling in anus. so i feel either swallowing food give her burning feeling in throat and even then if she try to eat that, her stool troubles her and give her burning feeling sometimes.
*She still put her fingers in her mouth, almost all the time and now again she put her finger in nose as well trying to pick something out. i keep her clean, she brush teeth daily, she eat all nails so i cannot cut anymore, she takes bath daily sometime twice when needed. she specially wash hands before meals.
*I checked, her throat condition is same white spots on uvuala and today when she was crying i could see her throat more clearly + deeply with light, sores are still there, i wonder now if these are sores or boils or something else, because sores or boils take sometime and then end, but these sores are permanent never leave there place, also they dont look transparent i cannot see any fluid in them, they look hard permanent and colour of the throat itself, what ever it is it's chronic.
*i intend to properly show her throat to some ENT specialist, at least he can help diagnose, and then what ever the diagnosis treatment is going to be Homeopathic.

Till then, Sir guide about next step.
Sorry i did not mention one more thing, one day ago she showed me her upper lip inside there is not a sore , but white line at the end where gums+lips join.

Best Wishes

Hannah
Note: Sir i extremely need your help regarding my son's(7yr old) behaviour problem. You use too suggest remedy for him too for allergy problems. But i actually discoverd last year that he has chronic tonsils(both sides/size of a toffee) i did not take him too allopathic doctor because they mistreated him before as well and gave him lots lots of antibiotic. Now for 4 years he is without any allopathic treatment, after you Dr Nawaz helped me during his phases of allergies but as far as his behaviour problem is my concern he cannot help. I am giving you 2 threads here one that started with you and the other with Dr Nawaz.


http://abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/257494/

http://abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/265553/
I request you to specially read 6th post(dated:2011-07-20) at the second page of this thread.
Sir i hope you'll consider this case, please take your time,if you need more information i'll give you as much as possible.Sir kindly guide me also which thread to use for this problem, or should i start a new post?

Best Wishes

Hannah
[message edited by Hannah Hannah on Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:59:11 BST]
[message edited by Hannah Hannah on Sun, 29 Jul 2012 10:05:36 BST]
 
Hannah Hannah last decade

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