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Peridonal disease

I have a twelve year old cairn terrier for the past three months, he has been under vet care, he has had his teeth cleaned, some pulled and antibiotics. He has had green pus and drooling on and off. He has been on antibiotics all this time and under vet care. I have tried homeopathy too. It seems to keeping the situation from getting worse. Monday he has another vet appointment, taking xrays and maybe more surgery. I am not comfortable with this, I am afraid it could get into his blood stream. Any suggestions are welcomed. He is eating, no problem with his stools or urinating. He does not drink much water. No odor in the mouth, green pus and drooling off and on. He does not usually sit with me only when he is not feeling good, which he his doing now. Also he is sleeping right now and he has some twitching going on.
[message edited by McTavish on Fri, 26 Dec 2014 11:52:52 GMT]
 
  McTavish on 2014-12-26
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Merc Sol 30 twice a day for 7 days.
 
kadwa 9 years ago
Hello,

I do have McTavish on the Merc Sol 30 twice a day. I forgot to mention his glands in the neck are swollen, there are two on each side, they go up and down. McTavish is under vet care and antibiotics. Vet has checked other glands so far okay. Are there anymore suggestions?
 
McTavish 9 years ago
Another update, McTavish has an developed more green pus, I looked in his mouth there is a spot on his gums that is red and looks like an open sore, it also is an up and down situation, looks red than pink. Any other suggestions on homeopathy, homeopathy seems the only way to help this situation, vets only give me antibiotics, cleaning and pulling. Mick has been all thru this. He is eating, drinking (not much), I am giving Mick fluids by mouth, stools are okay and urinating okay.
 
McTavish 9 years ago
Don't force him to eat. Probably a day or two of fasting him on some high calcium chicken potassium broth would help him immensely.

He doesn't need energy required for healing to have to be used to digest food.

The broth is tasty and it will give his stomach a break.

Periodantal disease is an indication the digestive tract isn't working as it should. He's got inflammation all throughout the digestive tract if he has bleeding gums.

You MUST improve his diet. What is his diet now? I would eliminate all commercial treats and give him cooked meat; organ meat and cooked and raw vegetables especially greens like celery and cucumber and raw fruit AFTER his fast. Get rid of the chemical laden poisonous cheap dry and canned commercial food if that is what he is eating.

To make the broth, put a roasted chicken in a sauce pan and cover it with water. Throw in a potato, onion, carrots, celery and garlic. Boil then simmer for 4 hours adding water to keep the chicken covered. Strain the broth. into a bowl. Then cover the remaining cooked chicken and vegetables with cool water. When cool enough, squeeze any remaining juices from the meat and veggies and discard them. The liquid will be milky. When finished. strain this liquid adding it to the bowl with the hot broth. Now break up the bones
and move just the bones to a smaller saucepan. Cover with water and add a tablespoon of tomato juice. simmer for 30 minutes. Add this to the broth mixture. At meal times and in between, if he wants, let your dog have as much of this as he wants. It will help him detox his body of acids eating away at his gums. You need to help him alkalize his body.

If he is so addicted to his current food and won't touch the broth. Leave the broth for him to have for 15 minutes. If he rejects it, take up the bowl just leaving him his plain water. Then 3 hours later or at the next meal time, give him the broth again. If he keeps rejecting it, let him. Eventually, he'll be hungry enough to drink it. Then after a day or so on the broth, he'll have enough of an edge to his appetite for you to start him on the upgraded healthful diet.



I would before each "meal" give him a small bowl and add some of the herb Slippery Elm to the broth to make sure he drinks it. Then I'd wait five minutes. Give him some more broth with some tincture of cayenne pepper which is also healing to the digestive tract and even stops bleeding and also gives the broth more flavor just don't over do it.. Just start with a drop if you have the liquid tincture. I've used cayenne pepper with my cats sprinkling it on their food and they eat it right down.

To determine dose of herbs, Find out what percentage your dog's weight is of 150 pounds or an average adult weight. If he weighs 50 pounds for example, give him 1/3 the dose. I would probably get the alcohol tinctures at a health food store and you can make a tea with them by adding a dose to a cup of hot water.

Will your dog let you rub his gums? If so I would make a strong tea with Goldenseal, Cayenne, Slippery Elm, Chamomile, Siberian Ginseng, honey. Taste it yourself first. Dip a cotton ball in the tea and dab it on your dogs gums or try to hold it there for as long as he will let you.

If the gums are really bad you could make a paste of Slippery Elm powder and water and apply that to his gums. It sooths itching and burning and pulls out infection.

You can do all this in addition to the homeopathics. I would just do the herbs an hour or two away from any drugs or homeopathics.
[message edited by emilybh on Sun, 28 Dec 2014 18:27:33 GMT]
 
emilybh 9 years ago
Hello,

McTavish, is eating Instinct Raw Dog food with added vegtables, cayenne is also sprinkled on his food. He eats twice a day,(every 12 hours) not being forced to eat, he wants to eat. In between meals he gets bone broth, coconut water, his mouth is cleaned with warm sea salt water. I have already tried strong tea on his gums. I have not tried the Slippery Elm powder as of yet. It's an up and down situation, gets worse at night. It is true about the inflammation inside the body I can tell when I pick him up, he will be light, than heavy. Everything works I have tried, it just does not get rid of the whole situation. Also a probiotic two hours after his antibiotic.
[message edited by McTavish on Sun, 28 Dec 2014 21:35:20 GMT]
 
McTavish 9 years ago
Is he overweight? It wouldn't hurt to give him the broth one day a week.
If he were my dog I would call off the surgery.

He has a chronic condition which the medical profession are absolutely clueless about knowing how to deal with.

If you told me he was hit by a car and was having surgery, I wouldn't say anything. That is about the only thing the medical profession is decent at addressing.

I know of the food you are giving him. That is about the best you can do without making it yourself so you are ok there. Although I would give him fruit and sea vegetables. Give him fruit 30 minutes before his regular food or better yet, instead of it to help him detox. Does he like strawberries? They are great for the gums.

If you are worried about his blood stream, Burdock root is a great blood cleanser. You could add that to his food.

Again, do not over feed him. He probably only wants to eat because he is used to the routine -- not because he is really hungry. He isn't absorbing the nutrients from his food anyway if his gums are a mess. All it is doing is taking energy that could be used to heal the damage the vet did to his mouth. Needless to say, I would get him off all the meds as soon as it is safe to do so.

To research how dangerous they are, go to a search engine and type " dangers of _
[the name of the drug]___"

He needs to use his energy to detox and get rid of the mucus that is clogging his lymphatic and digestive system and preventing nutrient absorption.

He probably could stand to give his Adrenals a boost. Most mammals with poor digestive health have weak adrenal glands which act like the conductor in an orchestra. They help all the systems work.

Get Dr Pitcairn's book NATURAL HEALTH FOR DOGS AND CATS if you don't already have it.

If he were my dog I also would stop taking him to the vet except for real emergencies.

I wouldn't have had the periodontal work done. I avoided it myself using IPSAB tooth powder which would be difficult to use on a dog.

Your dog is no better off than if you'd done nothing.

Right now he needs rest and to detox. He doesn't need more surgery! If he has green pus, don't try (or let the vets try) to stop it. You need to try to draw it out. It is a sign he's toxic and the toxic mucus is trying to get out.
 
emilybh 9 years ago
Thank you for responding.

McTavish is not overweight, he is about thirteen pounds, he always weight fourteen pounds. I just gave him bone broth tonight. Made more tea for him and cleanse his mouth with it and his open sore. I was just worried about the green pus and his swollen glands, I did not want him to go septic. My little boy has been a trooper thru all this. I did need someone to help me, I did not want to make any mistakes. I do have Dr. Pitcairn's book. I also decided not to take him to the
vet for more surgery, I had a feeling he would not make it thru it. I will keep you posted. I did the antibiotics so he would not go septic and than did the probiotic after two hours for good bacteria. Thank you again.
[message edited by McTavish on Mon, 29 Dec 2014 02:00:39 GMT]
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McTavish 9 years ago
Good for you. I think you have the right instincts. Again, don't worry about the pus. It is toxic junk the body needs to get rid of. If you could get organic strawberries and rub those on his gums (as well as give to him to eat if he wants them), I think that would help a lot.

You could also add Vitamins, A, E and D although the true blue hardcore healers don't like isolate supplements. They feel that like with drugs, the body may accept them but may not be able to assimilate all of it as it has been altered from its natural plant state by man. Another way would be to get the antioxidants from food (again from the broth, sea veggies, greens).

As far as good DIY homeopathy goes. HOMEOPATHY FOR CATS AND DOGS is a great book to have in your library besides the Pitcairn one for natural health for cats and dogs. (I know Simone has it as well.)

Also having some good references for herbs is really helpful. You can apply a lot of what they recommend for humans to animals. For example, the herbs that work best for the head area (berries)in humans do also for dogs and cats.

Dr Linda Page has authored many books. She has many editions of HEALTHY HEALING. She also wrote HOW TO BE YOUR OWN HERBAL PHARMACIST which is a great reference for herbs. Also Dr John Christopher has written many books. HerbalLegacy (dot com) is one of his sites where you'll find complete protocols for dozens if not hundreds of ailments. His book THE SCHOOL OF NATURAL HEALING is a 660 page book on Herbology including stories of his experience with effects of certain protocols on patients he had over the years.

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I just gave some recommendations to a friend with a cat with the Feline Leukemia virus as well as Stomatitis, or mouth sores. I thought the herb suggestions I gave her might help your dog too.

Red Raspberry Leaf Tea although most popular for female issues also is fantastic for the digestive system and it cleanses mucus membranes (which the mouth has plenty of). Also if you research the Cat's Claw herb, that one is a real heavy hitter for all things digestive. Siberian Ginseng is great for male issues but also helps the adrenals and most of the systems in the body. You are already doing Cayenne. I would up the dose of that. You can get it in a liquid tincture and give about 1/8 the human dose. I think I mentioned sea vegetables- Kelp or Dulse or others and I mentioned Slippery Elm to do before doing the other herbs as it would prevent the body from getting the maximum benefit of the other herbs.
One last one Burdock Rt is blood purifying and enzyme producing as is the ginseng and super greens are too.
That should cover all the bases. I would really keep doing the broth with the herbs before trying food for at least a day or two.
[message edited by emilybh on Mon, 29 Dec 2014 17:34:24 GMT]
 
emilybh 9 years ago
Generalities; discharges, secretions; green; grass, like: bacch-a CALC-F(3) carb-ac corv-c cyt-l lac-c salx-f
 
kadwa 9 years ago
Generalities; discharges, secretions; staining; green: agar ant-c bov CINNB(3) cupr jug-r kali-chl LAC-C(3) lach thuj
 
kadwa 9 years ago
It has been a couple of weeks, vet was treating Mick for peridonal disease, she wanted to xray his teeth and pull more. I canceled the appointment.
Now we have a new situation, all these problems we're not from peridonal, Mick has bloating of the stomach. Any suggestions on homeopathy? I have read for many days on how to feed him. Just need suggestions on homeopathy. Thank You.
 
McTavish 9 years ago
Please give Pulsatilla 30 twice a day for few days and see how that affects. If this doesn't help give Nux Vomica 30 in the same way and see how that affects.
 
kadwa 9 years ago
Thank you.

Yesterday, he was not feeling well, so he fasted. Today he is back to normal, carefully watching over him. Mick eats Instinct Raw Dog Food, so I only gave him 12 pieces and separated them on a plate so he would not eat fast, he also gets bone broth. I am giving small meals, but I wanted to give him a homeopathy product because I feel they help way better than anything I have done over the years for myself. Thank you again.
 
McTavish 9 years ago
Mick is a fourteen pound Cairn Terrier, how many pellets of Pulsatilla 30? twice a day or
Nux Vomica 30?
 
McTavish 9 years ago
2 pellets of Pulsatilla 30 twice a day.
 
kadwa 9 years ago
Thank you all for the help.

Mick is doing great, running around, tail wagging, no more green pus, drooling or bloating.

Thank you once again. :-)
 
McTavish 9 years ago
Hello, Mick has been holding his own these past few weeks, he has been having one episode a week. I noticed he was having difficulty hopping on to the couch. His lymph nodes are swollen, there are four in his neck like large marbles. So now Mick has been diagnosed with lymphoma. What homeopathy supplement would you suggest? He is eating, no other problems at this time.
 
McTavish 9 years ago

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