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Spinal Stenosis

Hello, my son was diagnosed with Spinal Stenosis. He is only 23 and the suspicion is that he has had it since birth. He fell over the winter and hit his back. This is how they discovered it. What can he do? Also he has constant lower back pain. Can you suggest what he can take or do to live without the pain at such a young age?
 
  Merisel81 on 2019-08-13
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Dear Merisel,

Plz answer the below questions:

Which side is more affected, right or left?
Is there shooting stitches in back through to chest?
Is there back pains as if bruised when lying upon it?
Is it aggravated by even a light touch on spine and from slightest motion?
Is it increased sensitivity of spine without soreness?
Is it relieved by rubbing?
Is the back pain with great restlessness?
[Edited by HealthyWorld on 2019-08-13 10:11:31]
 
HealthyWorld 4 years ago
1. Which side is more affected, right or left?
Both sides equally

2. Is there shooting stitches in back through to chest?
No

3. Is there back pains as if bruised when lying upon it?
Yes

4. Is it aggravated by even a light touch on spine and from
slightest motion?
From the motion only not the touch

5. Is it increased sensitivity of spine without soreness?
There is increased sensitivity with soreness

6. Is it relieved by rubbing?
Yes, sometimes

7. Is the back pain with great restlessness?
yes, absolutely
 
Merisel81 4 years ago
Lachesis 200C

HOW TO TAKE THE REMEDY:
Please take three doses. Just three doses. Not daily.

WHAT IS A DOSE:
Get the remedy in liquid:
Put five drop of the remedy in 15 ml of mineral water, hit the bottle atleast 6 time (shaking the bottle is not enough) and keep it for 5 minutes. Take 5 ML from it. That’s one dose.
for second and third dose:
Hit the bottle atleast 6 time and keep it for 5 minutes. Take 5 ML from it.

TIME OF DOSE:
First dose: Early morning as soon as he gets up, wash his mouth with plain water (don't brush), take the remedy.
Second dose: 12 hrs after the first dose.
Third dose: 12 hrs after the second dose.

PRECAUTIONS:
If there is significant worsening of symptoms (called homeopathic aggravation) after the first dose, then don’t take the second dose.
Don’t take any other homeopathic remedy during this treatment.
During the treatment, don’t eat anything which you have never had all your life.

HOMEOPATHIC AGGRAVATION
Sometimes the symptoms for which treatment is being done can worsen after taking the homeopathic remedy. This is homeopathic aggravation and a good sign. It usually dies down within 24-48 hrs. During this time you can use any non-medicinal means to keep yourself comfortable. If the aggravation seems excessive, you can use any & all means necessary (including taking allopathic medicines) to keep yourself comfortable. Keep your homeopath fully updated if this happens.

HOW TO GIVE FEEDBACK:
A good example of how to report your progress is by giving %age improvement or worsening for all your health problems e.g.
Emotions: e.g. Feeling of happiness improved 40%
Energy level: e.g. Feeling of tiredness reduced 70%
Main health problem: e.g. Nasal discharge reduced 50%
Other health problems: e.g. acne">Acne increased 60%
Anything new: Depression: e.g. Loose stool started
And so on list all your complaints.

HOW TO KNOW IF YOU ARE GETTING CURED:
Any cure in homeopathic treatment will always follow this rule (Hering’s Law of Cure) otherwise it’s not cure, just palliation. The cure must proceed from centre to circumference. From centre to circumference is from above downward, from within outwards, from more important to less important organs, from the head to the hands and feet.

GENERAL INFO ABOUT HOMEOPATHIC PRESCRIBING:
If someone is giving several remedies, without waiting to see the effect of one remedy, then it is totally against the core principles of homeopathy. Such an approach is unlikely to give permanent cure, rather it may distort actual symptoms making subsequent cure even more difficult.

Don't drink water along with the medicine. Don't drink or eat any thing for 30 minutes before the medicine and after the medicine.

Note: Avoid Strong smell, Coffee, Raw Garlic, Raw Onion, Hing and Tobacco in any form.

Report back after 15 days with the changes observed during this period.

Regards
 
HealthyWorld 4 years ago
Thank you . We ordered the liquid remedy and when it arrives we will closely follow your instructions. As I read your instructions I need one point clarified: I will put 15 ml of mineral water into a bottle, I will then add 5 ml of Lachesis 200C. I will hit it at least 6 times, allow to sit for 5 minutes before my son takes it. That is clear, however for the second and third doses am I using the same mixture or do I make a new mixture each time?
 
Merisel81 4 years ago
Also can I use distilled water because all the mineral waters are carbonated?
 
Merisel81 4 years ago
There is one correction, you have to add 5 drops (not ML) of Lachesis.
yes, you can use the same mixture for second and third doses. Just hit the bottle and use it.
yes, you may use distilled water but don't boil in aluminium or plastic pot.
[Edited by HealthyWorld on 2019-08-16 03:39:29]
 
HealthyWorld 4 years ago
Hello, my son saw a different doctor that read his X-rays and said the following

Summary: Lumbar pain or muscle spasm. Bilateral spondylolsis and grade 1 spondylolsis of L5, L5-S1 disc and degenerative changes in the lower lumbar spophyseal joints

Should he stay with the remedy you recommended?
 
Merisel81 4 years ago
Yes.
 
HealthyWorld 4 years ago
It has been 15 days since my son started on this remedy. He recorded his results in an excel spreadsheet over the past 15 days. I checked your profile and can send it to your email address. Please let me know if this is acceptable?
 
Merisel81 4 years ago
Are you still there?
 
Merisel81 4 years ago
Sorry Merisel,

Please update here.
 
HealthyWorld 4 years ago
Below is a chart of his results from the day before to day 15. You may need to expand the box to see the results properly. He measured everything from this head to his toes. I hope this is good feedback.

If this is not clear I can email it to you.

0% = Worse condition
100% = best condition

Body Part Before remedy 1st remedy 2nd Remedy 3rd Remedy Day 4 Day 5 Day 6 Day 7 Day 8 Day 9 Day 10 Day 11 Day 12 Day 13 Day 14 Day 15
head 80% 85% Somehow this data was lost 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 100% 90% 80% 100%
eyes 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
ears 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
nose 70% 75% 75% 80% 85% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 95% 95% 85% 100%
sinus 60% 60% 70% 70% 75% 80% 80% 85% 90% 90% 90% 90% 80% 90%
mouth 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
neck 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
shoulders R 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
shoulders L 75% 75% 70% 70% 70% 75% 75% 80% 85% 85% 90% 90% 90% 85%
arms 80% 80% 80% 80% 85% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90%
hands 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
chest 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
heart 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
lungs 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
ribs 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
upper back R 50% 50% 60% 60% 40% 45% 45% 50% 50% 55% 60% 60% 60% 50% 50% 50%
upper back L 50% 50% 60% 65% 55% 60% 65% 70% 70% 75% 75% 75% 80% 70% 50% 50%
mid back R 25% 25% 30% 30% 25% 30% 30% 25% 25% 30% 30% 30% 35% 25% 30% 40%
mid back L 35% 35% 40% 40% 30% 30% 30% 25% 25% 30% 30% 30% 35% 25% 30% 35%
lower back R 0% 0% 10% 15% 10% 10% 15% 10% 10% 15% 15% 15% 15% 10% 10% 15%
lower back L 0% 0% 10% 10% 10% 10% 15% 10% 10% 15% 15% 15% 15% 5% 5% 10%
Upper spine 95% 95% 95% 95% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 95% 95% 95% 90% 85% 90% 95%
mid spine 75% 75% 75% 75% 70% 75% 75% 75% 75% 80% 80% 80% 70% 70% 75% 80%
lower spine 0% 0% 10% 10% 0% 10% 10% 10% 10% 15% 20% 20% 10% 10% 10% 15%
stomach 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
colon 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
legs 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
knees 75% 75% 80% 85% 85% 85% 85% 90% 90% 95% 95% 95% 95% 95% 95% 95%
ankles 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
foot 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%

Mind
mood good 80% 85% 85% 85% 85% 90% 90% 90% 90% 95% 95% 95% 95% 50% 65% 70%
anxious 50% 25% 20% 15% 25% 25% 20% 15% 15% 10% 10% 10% 10% 30% 20% 25%
impatient 20% 20% 20% 20% 20% 20% 15% 10% 10% 15% 10% 10% 10% 60% 40% 45%
Energy Level 60% 70% 75% 75% 60% 65% 70% 80% 80% 80% 75% 80% 85% 50% 65% 75%
stressed 80% 60% 50% 45% 55% 50% 45% 50% 50% 40% 30% 35% 30% 50% 45% 50%

I decided to start tracking my supper to see if this had an effect on how I felt the following morning
Day 9. Woke up feeling better today in the lower back. Night before I ate curried chickpeas in a deep fried dough
Day 10. Woke up with low back pain. Night before I ate chicken potatoes and peas
Day 11. Woke up with shoulder pain and bad neck pain? Bad sleep? Ate chicken with vegetables and potatoes
Day 12. Woke up with intense back pain ate shrimp with rice and vegetables the night before.
Day 13. Woke up very bad back pain ate chicken with potatoes and vegetables. Energy low and not in a good mood
Day 14. Woke up not feeling any better in anything worse. Ate shrimp with rice and vegetables
Day 15. Woke up feeling bad again ate beef and some chicken with potatoes.
 
Merisel81 4 years ago
Hi,
Repeat 2 doses of same remedy.
Update me afaft 15 days.
 
HealthyWorld 4 years ago
Hello, here is the date to date daily updates
Body Part Day 1 Day 2 Day 3 Day 4 Day 5 Day 6 Day 7 Day 8 Day 9 Day 10 Day 11 Day 12 Day 13 Day 14 Day 15
head 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
eyes 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
ears 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
nose 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
sinus 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90%
mouth 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
neck 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
shoulders R 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
shoulders L 95% 80% 90% 95% 90% 95% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90%
arms 100% 100% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90%
hands 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
chest 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
heart 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
lungs 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
ribs 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
upper back R 50% 55% 45% 45% 50% 50% 50% 50% 50% 55% 55% 60% 60% 550% 50%
upper back L 50% 50% 50% 50% 50% 50% 50% 50% 50% 50% 50% 50% 50% 50% 50%
mid back R 40% 50% 45% 50% 40% 40% 50% 40% 40% 40% 40% 40% 40% 40% 40%
mid back L 35% 35% 35% 35% 35% 35% 35% 35% 35% 35% 35% 35% 35% 35% 35%
lower back R 15% 15% 15% 15% 15% 10% 10% 15% 15% 15% 15% 15% 15% 15% 15%
lower back L 10% 10% 10% 10% 10% 10% 10% 10% 10% 10% 10% 10% 10% 10% 10%
Upper spine 95% 95% 95% 95% 95% 95% 95% 95% 95% 95% 95% 95% 95% 95% 95%
mid spine 80% 80% 80% 80% 80% 80% 80% 80% 80% 80% 80% 80% 80% 80% 80%
lower spine 15% 15% 15% 25% 15% 15% 10% 15% 15% 20% 15% 15% 10% 15% 15%
stomach 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
colon 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
legs 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
knees 95% 95% 95% 95% 95% 95% 95% 95% 95% 95% 95% 95% 95% 95% 95%
ankles 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
foot 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%

Mind
mood good 70% 75% 80% 90% 70% 75% 80% 70% 70% 70% 70% 70% 70% 70% 70%
anxious 25% 15% 15% 20% 20% 25% 25% 30% 30% 30% 25% 25% 20% 15% 15%
impatient 45% 55% 50% 50% 60% 55% 60% 45% 45% 45% 45% 45% 45% 45% 45%
Energy Level 75% 75% 85% 85% 85% 85% 75% 75% 75% 85% 85% 80% 80% 75% 75%
stressed 50% 50% 50% 50% 50% 50% 50% 50% 50% 50% 50% 50% 50% 50% 50%

I look forward to your reply on next steps. Seems like the back pain has been consistent
 
Merisel81 4 years ago
Hi,
Repeat 2 doses of same remedy.
Update me after 15 days.
 
HealthyWorld 4 years ago
Along with my son's back issues, please pay attention to his anxiety, stress and impatience levels. I look forward to your reply

Body Part Day 1 Day 2 Day 3 Day 4 Day 5 Day 6 Day 7 Day 8 Day 9 Day 10 Day 11 Day 12 Day 13 Day 14 Day 15
head 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
eyes 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
ears 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
nose 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
sinus 90% 90% 95% 95% 95% 95% 95% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
mouth 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
neck 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
shoulders R 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
shoulders L 90% 90% 90% 85% 90% 90% 90% 85% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90%
arms 95% 95% 95% 95% 95% 95% 95% 95% 95% 95% 95% 95% 95% 95% 95%
hands 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
chest 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
heart 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
lungs 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
ribs 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
upper back R 60% 60% 65% 65% 60% 60% 65% 65% 65% 65% 65% 65% 65% 65% 65%
upper back L 55% 60% 65% 65% 65% 65% 65% 65% 65% 65% 65% 65% 65% 65% 65%
mid back R 45% 45% 45% 45% 45% 45% 45% 45% 45% 45% 45% 45% 45% 45% 45%
mid back L 45% 45% 45% 45% 45% 45% 45% 45% 45% 45% 45% 45% 45% 45% 45%
lower back R 15% 15% 15% 15% 15% 15% 15% 15% 15% 15% 15% 15% 15% 15% 15%
lower back L 15% 15% 15% 15% 15% 15% 15% 15% 15% 15% 15% 15% 15% 15% 15%
Upper spine 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 90% 80% 80% 80%
mid spine 75% 75% 80% 80% 75% 75% 80% 80% 75% 75% 80% 80% 70% 70% 70%
lower spine 15% 15% 15% 15% 15% 15% 15% 15% 15% 15% 15% 15% 15% 15% 15%
stomach 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
colon 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
legs 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
knees 95% 95% 95% 95%
ankles 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
foot 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%

Mind
mood good 75% 75% 75% 75% 75% 75% 75% 75% 75% 75% 75% 75% 75% 75% 75%
anxious 10% 10% 10% 10% 10% 10% 10% 10% 10% 10% 10% 10% 10% 10% 10%
impatient 15% 15% 15% 15% 10% 10% 10% 10% 10% 10% 10% 10% 10% 10% 10%
Energy Level 80% 80% 80% 80% 80% 80% 80% 80% 80% 80% 80% 80% 80% 80% 80%
stressed 25% 25% 25% 25% 25% 25% 25% 25% 25% 25% 25% 25% 25% 25% 25%
 
Merisel81 4 years ago
Plz list down his all current problems here.
 
HealthyWorld 4 years ago
I misunderstood what my son had in the information provided. He said his anxiety, stress and impatience levels are fine. His concern is his lower back pain, close to his spine and extends out about one and a half inches to each side of his spine. He can’t lay down or sit for too long as the pain increases. When he wakes in the morning the pain can be worse if he tossed and turned during is sleep. If he had a good sleep then the pain is as it is regularly.

He is about 6 ft tall and quit thin, he weighs about 103 to 135 lbs. He gets upset easily if he thinks someone is speaking harshly to him or challenging him
 
Merisel81 4 years ago
Hi Merisel,

You stated at the start that this was discovered
Last winter- after your son had a fall. And that
He may have had stenosis from birth.

First- a LOT of people have stenosis and they
Never have any pain or problem-

The fact that he had pain only after the injury?
Is that correct?

To me it sounds like he needs a remedy for
Injury- which may be Arnica to start with.

What kind of dr are you seeing? An orthopedic
Dr? Have they suggested anything like physical
Therapy?
 
simone717 4 years ago
Hi Merisel,

Please try Arnica as advised by Simone.
 
HealthyWorld 4 years ago
He tried Arnica 30C and 200C and not getting much relief. Should he move up to a higher potency?
 
Merisel81 4 years ago
please compare which one is more affective and chose the best one.
 
HealthyWorld 4 years ago

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