JoPathy -

Hi Chandra

Good to see you around and thank you for your Birthday wishes.

77 years seems to be such an advanced age and it is strange that I still have the zest and feeling of wellness that I had 30 years ago which I believe is thanks to homeopathy ---specifically my nightly dose of Arnica.

How are you doing ?

Kind Regards

Joe

Dear Joe...also the hand of Jesus Christ !!

Pankaj,

I do agree that it is always God first and then the Arnica.

Thank you for reminding me and I am convinced that it is God that has always directed my life and I just follow directions.

Joe

Dear Joe,
I also take the opportunity to wish you a very Happy Birthday.
Its thanks to people like you that so many of us are feeling much better.
May your tribe increase with every passing minute.
regards
maya

Dear Maya

Thank you for your kind greetings and thoughts on my 77th Birthday. It is persons like you whom I have had the pleasure of helping with a homeopathic remedy in the past that matter and are the real reason why I am present on the ABC in spite of having to adopt a defensive attitude to insist that the way I use homeopathic remedies which is not the classically accepted manner, is equal to or even more effective than their classical method of case taking and identifying the remedy.

I am appalled at the diatribes of invective that I have to endure almost on a daily basis to counter the combined onslaught of a few classically oriented members who fondly imagine that it is only they who can prescribe for any remedy.

I was getting quite disgusted with their attacks on every remedy that I would prescribe to a member who sought help to cure his ailment and I am glad to note that this attack mode seems to have abated since yesterday, perhaps as a mark of respect to my attaining my 77th Birthday and I do hope that this peaceful attitude continues in the future.

It occurs to me that at least one of these attackers may have been hired by interested classical bodies of homeopaths as I have been marked out in the past as a maverick in homeopathic circles as they may have noticed that they stood to lose their ample revenue when they discovered that I seemed to be making an inroads into their accumulation of their fortunes as at least some of their patients were found to be using the ABC in disgust after having been under the care of classical homeopaths for many years without any positive results and when they posted their ailments they soon discovered that my remedies cured them in a very short time.

It crossed my mind that at least one of my persecutors may have been ordered to shadow each of my posts with the avowed intention of creating some diversion under the pretext of questioning my Joepathy which seems to have boomeranged back on him as my patients came to my support and have so far been successful in shooing him off.

I hope he remains out of sight.

Regards

Joe De Livera

Dear Joe

Your 'practice' on abc doesn't hurt any classical homeopath, and they have enough patients. They need not snatch them from you. : )

You may not be aware, and let me tell you that a good classical homeopath sees about 25 patients in a day,and the best ones charge Rs.300 per consultation.See, the amount of money they make in a day.!!

They are not dependent on forums like these, and they have their own reputation, that brings them patients.

It is just a coincidence that some classical homeopaths appeared here at the same time, and let me assure you, it is no pre conceived idea.

I for one appreciate your effort in trying to help people in the best way you know. But, if somebody else tells (including me) that it is not the best way, don't get agitated.

Let the patients listen to both sides, and decide what is best for them.

we too have nothing other than the patient's welfare in mind.

regards

Murthy

Happy Birthday, Joe!

Dear Sir Happy BirthDay to you though i am new to homeopathy but read your articles here u have done agreat job
Regards
Pankaj

Dear Murthy,

Please be assured that I did not mean to refer to you in my last post.

It seemed to be more than a coincidence that my other detractor who reportedly had a very busy practice could spend virtually the whole day in shadowing me.

I am personally aware that in London a consultation costs upwards of £350 with every subsequent consultation costing £100. I cannot imagine how one so busy minting money with the 25 patients you indicated daily, can spend so much of his valuable time hounding me. In any case I am able even at my age of 77+ to give him as good as I get and we shall see how matters work out in the long run.

Regards

Joe

Thank you Simon.

It is great to be 77 years old and still be able to field all the balls that are bowled against me as I seem to be doing today.

I happen to be watching the Sri Lanka vs New Zealand match right now being played in Mumbai which I am confident we will win.

Joe

To Pankajnarang

Thank you for your greetings.

Glad to have your support.

Joe De Livera

I don't know why classical homeopaths are trying to make a hue and cry about Joe's recommendations for taking a dose of Arnica everyday.

This was my first experience with Arnica on a 80 year old person...some 20 years back.

(Pl. don't confuse it with my first experience of Arnica...but first experience of the effect of Arnica on a 80 year old man).

My wife's grandfather slipped in the bathroom and twisted his ankle...he was 80 years old then. I was in my office and got to know about it. In the evening I bought a bottle of Arncia 200 and went to see him.

I told him to take 6 doses at an interval of an hour each as his foot was paining and there was blueness due to the blood circulation becoming sluggish in that area. At his age we did not consider it wise to risk allopathic treatment and drugs.

Next day I phoned him from office and he confirmed that he had taken Arnica as instructed and was feeling much better.

In the evening I went to see him again.

The blueness of the area had all gone. He was on his feet and walking. There was a distinct pinkishness in his feet. I could see the benefit for myself.

After a while he told me:

'The medicine you gave me worked wonders. After many years I could feel the warm blood circulating in my body. It is a warm medicine. After many years I felt much younger'.

Whether you take Arnica homeopathically, allopathically or Joe-pathically ....if it produces good health, well being and makes a person feel much younger..why not!!

And where is the proving...a whole lot of hog wash and scare being created.

Best wishes,
Pankaj Varma

Thanks for sharing Experience
I have such experience with my family memberes
My sister in law was given arnica 1M doses after each hour she took around 6 doses due to severe back pain and was miracley cured
but i have a doubt why doctor has prescribed so much high potency repeated even in few hours? is it allowed exceptionally??

There are recorded cases of Arnica giving rise to problems, on this very forum, in the last few days.

Try to locate them.

Murthy

Homoeopathic arnica for the treatment of soft tissue injury
Overview


Injuries from bumps, falls and other accidents can cause bruising and swelling to skin and muscles. A number of treatments are available to help reduce swelling and bruising, including icing of injured areas of skin and applying creams. Homoeopathic preparations, particularly flowers from the herb arnica montana (arnica), are also used by some for the treatment for bruises, sprains and sore muscles. This evidence summary identified one systematic review and 14 clinical trials (involving 1,275 people) that examined the effectiveness of homoeopathic arnica for the easing of pain, swelling and bruising caused by a variety of accidents. Overall, the results from the trials indicate that homoeopathic arnica has no clear effect on bruising, swelling, or pain after soft tissue injury. Side effects related to the use of homoeopathic arnica for the treatment of soft tissue injury tend to mild and reversible, and include stomach irritation, tiredness (lethargy), dry mouth, and headache. However, there is no clear difference in the proportion of people experiencing side effects who took homoeopathic arnica compared to those who took a placebo. Side effects related to the use of homoeopathic arnica in general tend to be mild and reversible, and include headaches, tiredness, skin eruptions, dizziness, diarrhoea, and/or the temporary worsening of symptoms (often referred to as “homoeopathic aggravation”). Severe and potentially lethal side effects are associated with the ingestion of the essential oil or the herb itself, and only the homoeopathic preparation of arnica is safe for oral use.

Excerpt from :

http://www.cam.org.nz/Treatment Methods/Homoeopathy/soft_tissue_injury.htm

Murthy

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Joe would be around here for many more years.

In India there is a hindi birthday song:

Bar Bar Yeh Din Aayaae..

This birthday would come many more times.

Belated happy b'day to you dear Joe,May god bless you and yours.

To Turningpoint

Thank you for your greetings on my 77th Birthday.

How have you been doing in the recent past ?

I really do not understand why people keep on bashing Joe. Even if his therapy has helped ONE person (though it has helped many persons) his Joepathy is very useful. It will be better if Murthy and the other Joe bashers stop this kind of negativity and see the positive side of everything. Why waste our energy in negativity.. let us conserve it with positive thoughts.
maya

Joe is a threat to their dogma and dogma is their sole investment, character and lifestyle.

Instead of looking at the innovation first they condenm him and then they take lengthy trouble to explain why joepathy works. Then then preach Arnica is dangerous in long term.

They are self proclaimed
Homeopathy Constables, on a holy mission to straight up homeopathy.

In India we say Homeopathy Kae Thekadar
(Homeopathy Mafiosos)

I went to the site by Kate, arnica com au. She also advocates most of what Joe is saying on this forum. like Arnica for diabetes, and many other uses. All are requested to go there and make sure before criticising Joe.

You may like to know that I shared my discovery about Arnica helping Diabetes which I discovered about 3 years ago with Kate Diamantopoulo who has also tested it and can now confirm the same results that I have obtained in my own tests with Arnica. The advantage that she has over me is that she is a qualified homeopath and also an internationally recognized lecturer in this science and what she states in her website has more weight than what I do as I am not qualified in homeopathy.

I have shared all my discoveries in the use of Arnica with her and you may also like to visit Arnica the miracle remedy where I have collected the results of my research which unfortunately the classical homeopaths on this forum have scorned as this is the result of my own research which I wish to share with the world which is now labeled 'Joepathy'

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/42450

I am quite used to this daily criticism as no doubt you would have witnessed on the ABC but it would be nice to have some respite from this daily grind as I only wish to share my findings with the world in my own way and the only reward I get is this criticism bordering on persecution from the so called classical exponents of this science who may live to appreciate the good that can result from my findings, perhaps later in their lives.