Hypothyroidism-under active thyroid

Dear marss,
REcently homoeopathic develop a new medicine in lm potency i.e. Eltroxin LM4 for daily one dose and AGrimony (batch flower remedy) 2 drops three times in a day.

continue the above two medicine at a time for 3 to 6 month.

There is no any medicine in the world to cure this disease but you can try homoeopathy for cure.

dr.deoshlok sharma

Dear Dr. Deoshlok Sharma,

My name Hedi. I migrated to Canada last June 2010. In September , 2010 I assigned my family doctor (here you have to have one family doctor) and as per her instruction I did a medical check up of blood, stool, urine. She found my TSH level is high 22.1 in my blood test and parasite in the stool. Than she prescribed me Synthroid (Levothyroxine Sodium) for hypothyroidism. Please note that I did not have any symptom of hypothyroidism except my blood TSH level. I was not known that the medicine I have to take life long.

I was taking the medicine regularly ( the dose has been changed twice) until I advised by a homeopathy doctor to stop on July 20, 2011 and start taking his prescribe medicine (Nux vom 30, Mag Phos 30 for 2 days) and later on one more medicine I don’t know the name. But did not work out. I had tremendous reaction of stopping alopathy medicine i.e tiredness, weakness, sleep disorder, muscle cramp, loss concentrate to work and study, lost appetite. Than I talked to another homeopathy doctor and as per his suggestion I took the medicine as follows:

July 25 – Thyrodinum 30 2 times for 10 days (symptom of morning weakness, mood disorder, less appetite is relieved by 20-30%)
August 5 – Thyrodinum 200 weekly once 3 pils at a time for a month ( little improvement observed)
September 6 – Thyrodinum 10 M 3 doses afternoon, next afternoon, and evening
After taking Thyrodinum 10 M I found myself looking more thin, wrist watch is getting loose, hair lose, lose appetite, trouble having sleep/getting up early in the morning, little pain in the neck and shoulder area starting from morning, seems my previous improvement slowly going down. But gain a little energy after 10 days of observation even can concentrate a bit more.
Another dose of taking Thyrodinum 10M is due on October 1st week.

Could you please tell me whether I am in right track. What are the possible long term effect I may face if not corrected my disorder.

Thank you in advance.

Hedi

Hi Hedi,
It looks like you developed fibromyalgia after stopping allopatic medicine. I am not a doctor, but I have a relative who developed the same problem. His homeopathic doctor also suggested to take Thyroidinum, but he did not start it yet. However, he was able to get some improvement by taking a food supplement - dried brown sea weed, Modifilan. It contains high iodine content and helps thyroid to function. Again, I am not a doctor, but I think the combination of homeopathy and food supplement might do the trick.
Lilla.

Thank you Lilla,

Could you please get me the details of the food supplement. Do you have any idea how can I get the supplement here in Toronto. I am really having trouble. Can't go back to Allopathy and seems homeopathy also working very slowly.

Hedi

People are doing their best in simplifying homeopathy and making it more terrible.

They give nux vomica 30 if someone is bloated and Thyroidinum 10M if someone reports that he is suffering from hypo-thyroidism !!

Thanks kadwa, for your comment. Could you please advise me what should I do at this point.

Regards,

Hedi

Your case needs to be taking properly, and a remedy prescribed on the basis of your individual, peculiar symptoms. This is really the only way that homoeopathy cures patients.

I will post my intake form as an example of what kind of information we need.

GUIDELINES FOR GIVING HOMOEOPATHIC CASE INFORMATION

It is important to describe all your problems in as much detail as you are able. One word answers and short sentences are not particularly helpful. Discuss each problem one at a time, providing (as a minimum level of detail) the following information.

1. What exactly happens?
2. Describe all sensations and pains. Each pain or sensation should be described in such a way that allows us to imagine having the same pain.
3. What causes the problem to get worse after it has started occurring?
4. What creates some relief for the problem?
5. What triggers the problem into occuring?
6. What time of the day or night does the problem occur?
7. When did the problem start? What was happening in your life at that time? Did some specific event or treatment take place just before the problem started?

Move from one problem to the next, doing the same thing. IT IS VITAL THAT YOU GIVE A COMPLETE PICTURE OF YOUR HEALTH BY PROVIDING ALL PROBLEMS YOU HAVE, EVEN IF NOT CONNECTED TO THE MAIN ONE, AND EVEN IF YOU CONSIDER IT OF LESS IMPORTANCE.

You should address each problem separately using the above 7 questions as a guide. Do not put all your complaints into each of the 7 questions. Discuss one problem at a time. If you have, for example, a headache with nausea, do each component separately too (what makes the head pain worse or better, what makes the nausea worse or better).

As well as this, please describe any traumatic incidents that have taken place in your life. Discuss anything that has had a lasting impact on you mentally, emotionally or physically.

Discuss the way that you manage or deal with your problems, or any problems that occur in your life.

Discuss any patterns you have noticed in your behavior especially concerning your disease.

Discuss any part of your life where you feel stuck or unable to change and grow, especially where this occurred around the beginning of your disease, or as the disease evolved.

Describe your childhood and the kind of environment you grew up in, with reference to your relationships with your family, your school experiences, and any serious childhood diseases.

If your earlier discussions have not mentioned these already, please describe:

1. The specific foods that you crave (not just like) or hate
2. The specific drinks that you crave or hate
3. What your sleep is like
4. How the weather and the temperature affects you
5. What kinds of things in the environment you are particularly sensitive to
6. What your general level of energy is like
7. What your level of sexual energy or desire is like
8. Describe your menstrual cycle

9. Also give these details

a) Body type and build
b) Skin colour and texture
c) Areas of the body tends to perspire on
d) Odour of sweat, body, stool, flatus, urine
e) Colour of stool, urine, sweat

10. Give any reactions to vaccines or medical drugs.

David Kempson
Professional Classical Homoeopath

Dear David Kepmpson,

Thank you for taking my case.

Below find the details:

It is important to describe all your problems in as much detail as you are able. One word answers and short sentences are not particularly helpful. Discuss each problem one at a time, providing (as a minimum level of detail) the following information.
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1. What exactly happens?
- Slowly loosing weight, looking more slim
- Weakness, mostly in the evening time, feel tired with simple task, if I stand up from sitting I need to take a long breath
- hair loose as well as dandruff, thinning hair. nail become thin and soft
- leg cramp specially early in the morning before wake up(on of a sudden, not regular)

2. Describe all sensations and pains. Each pain or sensation should be described in such a way that allows us to imagine having the same pain.
Pain in the shoulder comes usually evening time. It last for 1-2 hours than go. Not everyday, if I do much work than it comes. (irregularly). When pain comes it seems my fleshes in the shoulder area is craving.

3. What causes the problem to get worse after it has started occurring?
If I think too much about my study or any problem in my social life. More movement, more pressure in work.
4. What creates some relief for the problem? Sleep, rest
5. What trigger the problem into occuring? Mostly mental pressure, over work load
6. What time of the day or night does the problem occur? Early evening
7. When did the problem start? What was happening in your life at that time? Did some specific event or treatment take place just before the problem started?

Move from one problem to the next, doing the same thing. IT IS VITAL THAT YOU GIVE A COMPLETE PICTURE OF YOUR HEALTH BY PROVIDING ALL PROBLEMS YOU HAVE, EVEN IF NOT CONNECTED TO THE MAIN ONE, AND EVEN IF YOU CONSIDER IT OF LESS IMPORTANCE.

You should address each problem separately using the above 7 questions as a guide. Do not put all your complaints into each of the 7 questions. Discuss one problem at a time. If you have, for example, a headache with nausea, do each component separately too (what makes the head pain worse or better, what makes the nausea worse or better).

As well as this, please describe any traumatic incidents that have taken place in your life. Discuss anything that has had a lasting impact on you mentally, emotionally or physically.

Discuss the way that you manage or deal with your problems, or any problems that occur in your life.

Discuss any patterns you have noticed in your behavior especially concerning your disease.

Discuss any part of your life where you feel stuck or unable to change and grow, especially where this occurred around the beginning of your disease, or as the disease evolved.

Describe your childhood and the kind of environment you grew up in, with reference to your relationships with your family, your school experiences, and any serious childhood diseases.

If your earlier discussions have not mentioned these already, please describe:

1. The specific foods that you crave (not just like) or hate : I don’t like bitter food, oily food, milk (lactose intolerance)
2. The specific drinks that you crave or hate : the drinks which is sour
3. What your sleep is like : I think my sleep is ok now. I sleep 6 hours every night. Its continuous, may get up for urine.
4. How the weather and the temperature affects you : I don’t like cold weather. In cold weather I feel bored. I don’t feel do any activities.
5. What kinds of things in the environment you are particularly sensitive to : mostly cold
6. What your general level of energy is like : moderate
7. What your level of sexual energy or desire is like : moderate but desire is more
8. Describe your menstrual cycle

9. Also give these details

a) Body type and build : Type: Ectomorph, build: tall, slim. BMI: 24.7
b) Skin colour and texture : Brown
c) Areas of the body tends to perspire on
d) Odour of sweat, body, stool, flatus, urine :
sweat: just like spoiled fish, body: not feel anything, stool: bad odour, flatus: Stinky. Urine: no bad smell
e) Colour of stool, urine, sweat : yellow, white, white

10. Give any reactions to vaccines or medical drugs. Usually allopathy medicine mostly antibiotic, when I take my stomach feel full of gas, I also have loose motion in the same time.

If you need further details let me know.

Thanks & regards,

Hedi777

Ok a few more clarifying questions. There isn't enough detail here as yet to prescribe.

1. Does taking a long breath help the weakness?

2. Please describe the feeling of the weakness - help to understand what it feels like? What makes the weakness worse. What makes it better? When in the evening does it occur?

3. What helps the leg cramp when you get it?

4. What exactly does the pain feel like you get in your shoulder. What makes it worse? What makes it better? When do you get it? What triggers it? When did it start? How can I imagine having the same pain?

5. What does it mean your shoulder is 'craving'?

6. Which problems are worse or better for the conditions you mention? What exactly is better for sleep, rest? What exactly is worse for pressure, work overload? And so on? It is best to keep each problem separate ie. one section for Weakness, one for Shoulder pain, One for weight loss etc.

7. What traumatic indicidents have occurred in your life and describe the experience of them?

8. Discuss the kinds of patterns of behaviour that have arisen around being sick. How has your life changed since becoming sick? What has been the effect of it on you, and all the different aspects of your life?

9. What kind of environment did you grow up in as a child? What problems did you have - fears, anxieties, schooling, social, parents?

10. Do you remember your dreams? Any dreams that reoccur or images/symbols that frequently pop up? Any old dreams you remember as being significant?

11. Describe more on 'work overload'. What is your experience of this? What does it mean, what is it like for you?

That is enough for the moment.
[message edited by brisbanehomoeopath on Mon, 26 Sep 2011 02:32:08 BST]

Ok a few more clarifying questions. There isn't enough detail here as yet to prescribe.

1. Does taking a long breath help the weakness?
Yes, it does help. When I stand up from sitting I can not start anything suddenly, need to stop a while, need to have couple of deep breath.

2. Please describe the feeling of the weakness - help to understand what it feels like? What makes the weakness worse. What makes it better? When in the evening does it occur?
It starts early in the morning, difficult to get up from bed, feel to sleep more although I slept 6 hrs. Although I wake up but don’t feel to do any work. I force myself to do some home work i.e cleaning, washing. If I do not take my dinner properly mean a stomach full and also other meals the weakness become worse. Early evening it occurs but slowly I coop with it and continue my work.

3. What helps the leg cramp when you get it?
As mentioned it usually occurs early in the morning (irregular, may be monthly once or twice, before it wasn’t there but when I stopped taking Synthyroid medicine the second morning I noticed first. I think my homeopath gave me Mag phos 30 that relieved the symptom) . I just stay on the bed for some time try to do message the area by finger. Than slowly it disappears within 4-5 minutes.

4. What exactly does the pain feel like you get in your shoulder. What makes it worse? What makes it better? When do you get it? What triggers it? When did it start? How can I imagine having the same pain?

It actually comes and go. When it comes I feel like little ants are biting my shoulder area. It worse when I work infront of the computer for a long time. It makes better by lying on the bed. I think it starts two years ago.

5. What does it mean your shoulder is 'craving'?
I mean to say that it cutting the area.
6. Which problems are worse or better for the conditions you mention? What exactly is better for sleep, rest? What exactly is worse for pressure, work overload? And so on? It is best to keep each problem separate ie. one section for Weakness, one for Shoulder pain, One for weight loss etc.
Some how answer the above

7. What traumatic indicidents have occurred in your life and describe the experience of them?
When I was child someone pushed me from the back and I was hit by the bench which cause cut my back head. The bleeding was for a long time before I admitted to the hospital.

8. Discuss the kinds of patterns of behaviour that have arisen around being sick. How has your life changed since becoming sick? What has been the effect of it on you, and all the different aspects of your life?
I lose hope of doing anything. Feel more lathergic and idle. Can’t feel to take any initiative.

9. What kind of environment did you grow up in as a child? What problems did you have - fears, anxieties, schooling, social, parents?
It was good environment in concern with social, cultural, sports, and other activities. I did not face any problem associated with my school, parents, fears and anxieties.

10. Do you remember your dreams? Any dreams that reoccur or images/symbols that frequently pop up? Any old dreams you remember as being significant?

I am weak in Mathematics. I mostly dream that I am attending in the exam at school, my exam time is getting over but I am unable to complete the answer or I do not know the answer, fear to fail in this subject. I think last 15 years I had the same time of dream. The interesting thing I had business math in my 2nd semester of my current program and I did well. After that I don’t have such dream.

11. Describe more on 'work overload'. What is your experience of this? What does it mean, what is it like for you?
Now I study as well as I do a part time job. Sometime I have 4-5 assignment to complete in a short time. For that reason I study late night and next day I attend school or go for work without having proper rest. It so happened I do not find any leisure time in a week as I am busy whole week.
Beside of that let me give you some more information which might help you to do the diagnosis
I had been suffering tonsillitis problem from childhood and it continues every now and than for 15 years until one of the homeopath gave me Baryta carb to align it. Now I am ok. My stomach gets upset very often. I am picky to chose the food. Milk, sour items I can not take. Last 7-10 years I have been suffering vertigo irregularly. One of homeopath friend told me that I am Phosphorus patient as he observed physically, but I never tried it. Some of the homeopathy medicine that I apply and works for me are as follows:
Fever associated with cold, cough - Bryonia 200 after Ferum Phos 12X cell salt. For cold, runny nose,
Cold, runny nose – Natrum mur 12x cell salt
Toothache – Calc Flour 12X
Gas problem – Carbo veg, nux
Diarrhea – Aloe Sac
Vertigo – Kali Phos 6X + Calc Phos 6X
Wart – Thuja ( I took Thuja 1m for my wart 4 yrs ago)
Current medication story:
I stop taking (Levothyroxine Sodium) on July 07, 2011 (after 9-10 months taking regularly.) same time I took Nux vom 30 and Mag phos 30, Pulsatilla 30.
July 25 – Thyrodinum 30 2 times for 10 days (symptom of morning weakness, mood disorder, less appetite is relieved by 20-30%)
August 5 – Thyrodinum 200 weekly once 3 pellets at a time for a month ( little improvement observed)
September 6 – Thyrodinum 10 M 3 doses afternoon, next afternoon, and evening
September 25 – Thyrodinum 10 M as schedule - 1 dose (slight improvement all the area, but I think I have wait another week or two to find the actual outcome.

Thank you.
Regards,
Hedi777

What quality do you have as a person that allows you to work without rest, to remain busy all week?

What kind of person are you at work, what are you features as a worker?

What is the issue with Mathematics for you?

What is your attitude to work, to exams?

Where do you feel the weakness, in your body/

If were to describe something that was weak, what would that be? Don't give yourself as an example. What is weak, what things are weak, what is the meaning of weak - pretend I do not understand the word.

Hello, I had similar problems as you about a year ago... and was also prescribed anti-depressants (which I decided not to take). What helped me a lot was 1) Lugol's Iodine for low thyroid, 2) Regularly taking B12, Vitamin D, and Omega-3 Fish Oil, and 3) Eliminating ALL grains from my diet.

Now I would say I'm 80% better, with 100% better mentally/emotionally.

I would also recommend NatraBio Thyroid Support which is a combination of homeopathic remedies in a liquid form you let absorb under your tongue.

Hope this helps!

What quality do you have as a person that allows you to work without rest, to remain busy all week?
I don’t mean that I don’t take rest but I want to say that sometime it so happened I can sleep only 4 hrs at night due to my work schedule.

What kind of person are you at work, what are you features as a worker?
It’s a cashier job. I handle the day-to- day transaction directly with the customer. Everyday I do the physical inventory of the product as well although not a big shop.

What is the issue with Mathematics for you?
I really don’t get the complex question. if I practice for the solution I remember for the day or two and after that again I forget.

What is your attitude to work, to exams?
I do not have any laziness for work or study. I never avoid to put my effort to do the work or finish the study.

Where do you feel the weakness, in your body/
Now I feel weakness in my chest area. As mentioned earlier its very common for me to take deep breath while climbing few stairs or walking for a distance.

If were to describe something that was weak, what would that be? Don't give yourself as an example. What is weak, what things are weak, what is the meaning of weak - pretend I do not understand the word.
You can consider of energy level which is low now compare to a year ago.

Thank you.

Regards,

Hedi777

Hi Coneja,
Thank you for your information.

I am really happy to learn your improvement.
Recently I purchased Thyroid Assist from native remedies, but I haven’t start taking that. Did you find any side effect of taking the medicines specially NatraBio. As you notice I was regularly taking Synthroid and switch it to homeopathy, yet to get a optimum result. I will check Natrabio Thyroid Support in the nature shop in Toronto, otherwise, I have to order through online from luckyvitamin.com. Currently I am facing two main problems i) low energy level (feeling tired with simple task) ii) hair lose. I am really trying to avoid allopathy medicine (Synthroid) which I have to carry life long. I am not against the medicine but afraid the consequences for the later part of the life.

Warm wishes,
Hedi777

You haven't answered some of the questions I posed.

What allows you to work and study with only 4 hours sleep - what is it about you that gives you that ability?

What you do at work is not what I wished to know. Tell me what kind of worker you are? What qualties do you have at work that differentiate you from others?

If you are not lazy, and do not avoid effort, what is your attitude to work and to exams? Give me the attitude you do have.

Define weak. What is something that is weak? What kind of object, plant, animal, anything except you, would represent something that is weak? If something is weak what does that mean? What would happen to it? What could it do, what could it not do? What is the weakest thing you can imagine?
[message edited by brisbanehomoeopath on Thu, 29 Sep 2011 05:42:54 BST]

I do not have much to say.

It is my bad luck to describe the details according to your need.

Thank you.

Regards,

Hedi777

Revised - plz ignore the previous msg

I do not have much to say.

It is my bad luck that I am unable to describe the details according to your need.

Thank you.

Homoeopathic case-taking is hard work for both the patient and the practitioner. It often requires a sort of 'retraining' for those people not used to it (or only used to practitioners with no patience for the process).

I am willing to persist if you are.If however you do not feel homoeopathic case-taking suits you, then that is your decision. This is the way to find your cure, but you must be dedicated to the process as much as I am.