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Is Nat Mur ok for me ?

I consulted the Homeopath, she gave me gave me Ars Album, but discontinued due to return of problem after being better for one and a half month. Meanwhile came to know of this site and put the symptoms. The software suggests me that I need Natrum Mur. Is this remedy ok? I am providing my details below.
Regards
SS Sankhla

General
1. Age - 44 years
2. Height - 5 feet 7 inches
3. Weight - 68 kgs



Physical Symptoms
1. Nose blocked due to Polyps in the nose, ENT doctor tells me for operation
2. Catches cold very easily, with very little or no discharge, no cough but with blocked nose.
3. Headache Severe between 10 - 3 PM
4. As if loosing control and fall asleep despite trying hard to keep awake.
5. No proper sleep during night, wakes up with slightest disturbance and then it becomes hard to go to sleep
6. Does not want to wake up in the morning
7. Abdomen - Gas with constant light pain in the lower ribs.
8. Eyes - left eye - +0.75, right eye +1.25
9. Skin - red rashes and eruptions with itching sometimes
10. Skin - Dandruff during winters
11. Had TB in the glands below the neck/near color bone in the past, for which took medicine for 6-7 months.
12. Looks very healthy and composed


Mind
1. Confused, at cross roads, due to work related problems
2. Does not network or open fast
3. Likes to make friends, but gets bored with company easily
4. Interaction for official /work related issues is good
5. Likes to take control and do things systematically
6. Gets offended/hurt/sad if the work is not carried out as per his direction/wishes
7. Tries to maintain reasoning and discipline with everything, including food, life style, children, office
8. Does not like to harm anybody
9. Very impatient, likes results fast

Past
Started with very poor background with family barely managing two ends meet. Always wanted to be successful and change the world. Did hard work and got into premier institute (IIT), achieved success more than peers. Reached at almost the top in PSU at the age of 34. Was respected for technical, interpersonal and presentation skills. Changed jobs twice during 20 years. Last change in 2001 as CEO of a startup company at excellent terms and later became Director of the same company. Showed good growth, but no profits during first year. Terms changed later on due to difference of opinion with the promoter (old Indian business house – can not call them professionals). Unable to find top job and not ready to join at lower levels, so continuing with current job against wishes. Tried starting own consultancy, but left twice after initial orders due to fear of losses and lack of courage. Treats juniors well, but does not get well with seniors these days. Sense of being cheated.
 
  sssankhla on 2007-04-19
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
PHOSPHORUS seems to be close to your personality and symptom trends and thus could most probably is your constitutional remedy.

please take 3 doses of PHOSPHORUS 200C six hours apart on a single day in empty stomach.

thats all.

note the overall changes in the next two months. if found positive, you can take the follow up dose sets ( as suggested ) once every two months.
 
rishimba last decade
Thank you very much for your suggestion Rishimba. What should be the dose and how to take it ? I have got liquid Phosphorus 200C.
Regards
SS Sankhla
 
sssankhla last decade
please take 3 to 4 drops of remedy in 20 ml of water and sip it slowly.

thats one dose.

do not take anything one hour before or after taking the remedy.
 
rishimba last decade
I have taken the Phosphorus dosage as suggested. I will be reporting any changes later.

Meanwhile I read somewhere that Phoshorus should not be given to people with history of TB.

As you might have noticed in the posting, I had TB of lymph around 5 years back.

Is Phos, in this situation ok for me (I have already taken it). What could be the implications and remedies in case.... ?
Regards
SS Sankhla
 
sssankhla last decade
please dont worry about it.

phos should not be given in tuberculosis cases in low potencies ( 3c, 6c or 12c ) and in frequent doses.

infrequent doses of phos 200c will have no ill effects whatsoever.

please dont worry about it.
 
rishimba last decade
Thanks a lot. Will come back later.
 
sssankhla last decade
Dear Rishimba,
I know you had asked me to wait for the results for around two months. I will definitely do that. Menawhile there have been certain changes, which I thought might be improtant. Are these normal ?

Symptom Changes:
1.Nose –
There is small reduction in the size of the polyp, but the nostrils get blocked on and off alternating.
Forced to blow up nose.
On blowing, small discharge ranging in color from transparent, white to greenish yellow comes out. Sticks inside the nose. Easy to remove. Sometimes comes out powder like after drying.
Small lump of bloods also sometimes.
Sense of blocked nose is still there.
Still no sense of smell.

2.Rashes – Increased with itching. No or very small rashes after taking bath in the morning till 3 PM. Start erupting in the after noon around 2 hours after lunch, worse in the evening and does not go till I sleep. Color is red. Become large and merge into each other. As if blood oozing out.

Red rashes on penis, with itching. This was not there earlier.

3.Abdomen – Pain in lower ribs has more or less subsided, except occasional pain in the left side. However the gas generation and flatulence has increased. More so just after eating. Stool color is brown and sometimes yellowish brown. Sometimes the color will be brown at same place and yellow at another. Some gas will come out with the stool.

4.Headache and Sleepiness – Seems less but still suddenly goes to sleep, while sitting, working on computer or thinking. While this happens, Mind is having this sensation that I am off. Comes back to senses in 2-5 minutes or if somebody makes noise or calls. Normally it will happen when alone. This happens during the 10 am to 3 pm.

5.Week and Restless feet – My knees seem week after the Phos. Pain like sensation. I have started shaking both the legs, while sitting. Also the feet are swollen, if I sit on a chair handing the legs for some time.

6.It seems that eyes have become more clear, but, sense of something in the right eye near the corner towards temple. Itching and rubbing. Rubber like fibre type matter needs to be extracted from the eyes.

7.Perspiration on inside of hands , sole feet and head increased, as if heat coming out

8.Forgot to mention last time – I have warts on the neck. The size of all of them is around 1 mm, except one which is around 3 mm. They have come out around 8 years back.

Regards
 
sssankhla last decade
its good that you experience a change in your body.

what is more important is a sense of well being and good sleep.

your body may be presently going through the healing crisis and some symptoms will undergo aggravation.

please note your well being and sleep during the next two weeks and report.
 
rishimba last decade
Dear Rishimba,
It is now around 20 days, I have taken Phosphorus 200. There are certain things I would like to report to you, as they are quite disturbing,

1.My headache and Sleepiness during 10AM-3PM has gone bad. I am forced to close eyes and for momentarily I almost loose control, while sitting in the office, sometimes even while somebody is sitting in front of me and talking. The situation normally lasts for 2-3 minutes several times during this period and I have to conciously force myself awake and get busy or do some walking etc.

2. Earlier I used to get a few rashes once in a while but now the rashes on the skin start errupting around 3.30PM and continue growing on and off on whole of body till I go to sleep, with severe itching till. Bath in the evening gives some respite. There are no rashes from 8AM till 3-3.30PM.

3. Generally feel very week and a sick since I took Phos. This type of feeling was there when I had TB and was under medication.

4. Poeria type symptoms in teeth. Bad Smell from mouth. It was not there earlier.

5. Nose is upto 30% better, but sometimes it gets blocked suddenly.

Any comments ?
Thanks in advance.
 
sssankhla last decade
following were the symptoms i originally had.

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sssankhla last decade
please take LYCOPODIUM 200C three doses on a single day at 4 hours interval.


come back after 10 days of taking the remedy.
 
rishimba last decade
Dear Rishimba,
While I was going through the LYCO symptoms, I found that the headache is from 4-8PM.

I have headache and drowsyness between 10AM to 3 PM and Skin Rashes afterwards. Nose is much better than what it used to be.

I felt timings of headache and drowsyness opposit with my symptoms.

What symptoms are leading you to suggest LYCO ?
Regards
SS Sankhla
 
sssankhla last decade
your totality is close to LYCO, additionally you said you have warts which indicates that sycosis is present in you.

phos may not be working as its a predominant psudo psora remedy.

lyco is comparable to phos.

try it and note the changes in your symptoms.
 
rishimba last decade
Ok. Thanks. Will take LYCO 200C and come back to you.
Regards
 
sssankhla last decade
Dear Rishimba,
I had taken Lycopodium 200 on 13th. Following is the status after 10 days,
1. Headache - For first 3 days, headache shifted to evening hours (4-7PM). Now it has subsided, but dull headche and derelium occassionally.
2. Nose Block - Better, but sometimes gives, sensation of blockage, when the walls of mucus membrane collapse on each othe and block the nose. There was thick, almost solid, yellowish discharge from the nose on the first day and again on 5th and 8th day, only once. Apart from that, there is not much discharge. watery discharge, while walking or exercising.

3. Sleeplessness during night - For first 3-4 days increased uneasiness and woke up 5-6 times during the night. Now it is better. Yesterday, I woke up only once.
4. Sleepiness during day - Better now, but still there.
5.Rashes and Itching Sever rashes upto 8th day starting around 4 PM, peaking 8-9 PM and going all night. For past 2 days, they have dramatically reduced to a few, that too, without too much of itch.
6.Abdomen - For first 8 days, bloated sensation in lower part of abdomen, with pain under the lower left rib, sometimes unbearable. Wind trapped. Intolrance to liquid. Better by drinking cold water. For past two days, the bloating has decreased, but still there, with slight pain on the left. Also flatuence with sound.
7. Stool - For first 6 days, diificulty in passing the stool to start with, then gaseous and soft stool. For past 2-3 days, it is gaseous, and urge to pass stool again and again, while still on the pot.

8. Urine - dark yellow color,
9.Backache - Lowe back pain, left side in the kidney region. Right side near the hip joint.
10. Weakness and joint pain - Almost gone.
11.Teeth and Gums - Better than Phos, but still need improvement. Still some(not as much as with phos) foul smell. Yellowish deposit on the tounge and teeth in the morning.
12. Nails - Corrugated nails, with vertical lines,from base of the nail towards tip.
13.Itching and blisters under the forskin and head of penis for last 2 days.
14. There were small blisters under the eyes for 3 days. Now they are gone.
15. Eyes - Fibrous material sometimes, needs to be extracted.
16. Skin on my left jaw seems to be larger, looser than on right side.

Please let me know if you need something additional. I had filled the symptoms to the Remedy Finder software and it still seems to sugest NAT MUR. I am pasting the grid here for you reference.


Awaiting for your feedback.
Regards
 
sssankhla last decade
seems that lycopodium has brought in a better response than what phosphorus did.

lycopodium needs a bit of repetition to give full relief.

please dont change the remedy now. just repeat lycopodium 200c after every 5 days and take it for some weeks.

your symptoms will gradually get better and better.

finally, we will see if you need any other remedy other than lycopodium.
 
rishimba last decade
Thank you doctor. I will report back to you.
Regards
 
sssankhla last decade
Dear Rishimba and other doctors,
As suggested by you, I have taken LYCOPODIUM 200 3 dosages on 24th May and 29th May. As a whole I feel worse than what it it used to be. Details,
1. Throbbing headache from 10.30 AM. Vertex and forhead. Soulders heavy and tired. Vertigo dizziness. Stars in front of eyes. More while getting up and stooping. Headache from 10AM-3PM has almost returned back. You will not believe I would be having headache from 10-3 and suddenly the headache will disappear at around 3-3.30 PM and I suddenly go to sleep and come back to senses after 2-3 minutes. Durin this period it is difficult to keep the eyes open.
2. Night sleep is disturbed. Wake up 3-4 times during the night, and very lazzy in the morning. Do not want to get up.
3. Nose still keeps blocking on and off. The discharge is now thick yellowish to watery transparent. At times bloody, mostly after getting up.
4. To stat with I had a few rashse on the skin. Now I get very severe rashes with itching all over the body. Itching also on fingers and between fingers. Two blisters with water in them, on back of the thumb and between first and second finger.
5.Abdomen is worse than what it used to be. Trapped wind. Pain on left side. Difficulty in passing flatulence, but better if passed. I feel the gas is also trapped in the rectum region.
6. Legs are tired and constant pain in knee joints.
7.Teeth are giving feeling of loosenes. Otherwise the teeth is strong.
8. I also had herpese like blisters on the edge of the nose during this period. Now it is gone.
9.Film like layer on eyes, blurs the vision and have to remove it. Comes out as fibrous material.
10. Swollen feeling on the face, specially on left side. Small eye bags appeared today.
11. Cracked lower lips and also corner of mouth. Was worse two days back.
12. Mild pain in the heart region, moving toward left shoulder.
13. Thick yellow/white covering on the teeth and tongoue. Color of the tongue otherwise is pinkish red.
14. Nails are corrugated vertically. White spots has appeared on the nail of one of the fingers.

I request you to kindly reveiw and let me know. As per your earlier precription, I am supposed to take LYCO 200 tomorow, I will wait for your comment before resuming the treatment.

PS: I would request other doctors also to review my case and if possible provide constructive feedback. The rashes/itching and headache/dizziness, is driving me crazzy. My latest sysmptomps on Remedy Finder software as in this table.


Regards
 
sssankhla last decade
the symptom, headache worse 10 am to 3 am is typically a nat mur symptom.

also, others are more or less covered by it.

please check if your mentals and generals are covered by mat mur.

in that case, you can start with nat mur 30c every four hours for 2 days and see the response. if you get a positive reaction in the body, take nat mur 200c once every 3 to 4 days.
 
rishimba last decade
Basically I am quite bold. Try very hard. Trust people. Have a positive mind frame. Also a bit philosophical. More like phosphorous or sulphur.

Of late I get irritated very easily. Withdrawl symptoms, as if fedup. I don't like this attitude myself.
SS Sankhla
 
sssankhla last decade
Dear Rishimba,
I started NAT MUR 30 on 5th. I generally feel much better with this. As if I had regained lost power. I am summarising the condtions sysmptom wise below,
1. Headache - Much better. But still there once or twice during last two days.
2. Nose block - The nose opens quite well and I am able to take deep breath also easily. However in between the membrane is infalmmed and it gets blocked. Some times sneezing. Occassional watery discahrge. Sometimes Yellow and sometimes bloody. Quantity is not too much. BETTER prespiration.
3. Skin rashes - Very few and they disappear fast.
4. Abdomen - Much better. Some times there is trapped wind, but gets better easily. Sometimes gives feeling of emptiness, but that infact is no problem with me.
5. Stool - Yellowish brown, still some gas. Difficult to pass in the begining, but ok later on.
6. There was some pain in the anus once/twice, but gets better after sometime.
7. Also there is some pain above the heart below the left shoulder. I hope it gets better.
8. I have noticed that I am able to walk faster and for longer durations, than I used to and also remain much more alert.

Over all I feel much better. I have also taken the dose today (you had only asked me to take two days).

I feel this is the remedy for me. Please correct me if you feel like. If it is ok, then I need your guidance regarding the dosage and frequency. Do you think I need to increase the potency ?

Thanks for your help in anticipation.
Regards
 
sssankhla last decade
i believe NAT MUR has definitely produced a positive change in you.

wait for the improvements to stabilise. once you see that you are no more getting better it will be time to go for a higher potency.

you should then take NAT MUR 200C three doses a day at 4 hour interval on a single day.

again wait for a week or two and then post respose.

either you should take few more doses of 200C potency after 2 weeks or go for 1M as the case may be.
 
rishimba last decade
Dear Rishimba,
It seems every time a take a medicine, it throws up new symptoms.

As I had reproted, earlier NATMUR 30 gave me much better results for first 3-4 days. Later on I developed sysmptoms, which I am tabulating below. The Remedy Finder throws up Sulphur now.

1. Headache is almost gone
2. Nose block there on and of
3. Earlier I used to dread cold, now I am afraid to go out in the sun.
4. My muscles/nerves seem week now. Trembling of hands has increased.
5. Trapping of gas in the left part of the abdomen is severe.
6. I have developed aversion to eating anything, specifically salt.
7. Nausea, which was not there earlier.

Any views on this ? I am still continuing NATMUR. What is your guidance.
Reagrds

 
sssankhla last decade
Skin rashes have become severe and big, on whole body, particularly late evening and night.
 
sssankhla last decade
for the skin rashes, you can take SULPHUR 200C now for some weeks.

take one dose every 3rd or 4th day.

when the skin rashes would subside, it would be helpful if you take PHOSPHORUS 200C some doses which i have always felt to be your constitution.
 
rishimba last decade

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