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Few questions to homeopaths
Homeopaths say that if a person takes a particular medicine for a particular illness say for example Aconite in fever
then the person recovers from fever. If the person does not have fever then he will have fever homeopaths call it proving I think they all agree with it
Whether or not person gets cured thats a different question.
The question is who decides that the person is ill ?
The person's body or the medicine itself.
Either one of them has to decide (there is no third party.)
Lets say the medicine decides that the person is ill I should heal him or her but how does the medicine take the decision?
Does it have any database or some mechanism to check the human(homeopaths now are not limited to human they say cat dog any animal or even plant)
Or thus the person who makes the medicine gives some guideline to the medicine(for example Aconite) that if the persons body temperature is more than normal temperature
then reduce the temperature but if it is normal then increase the temperature give the person fever(they call it Proving?)
Does any one see any justification or any explanation of it.
Now if the person or the person's body decides that he or she is ill how does it tell that hey my dear friend medicine I am ill I have a fever please cure me.
and the medicine says Ok if you have fever do not worry Let me check your system if you do have fever then I will cure you.
But remember if you do not have fever then you will bring fever in your body. The medicine is smart enough to take the decision about the condition of the person.
Medicine decides already the same medicine is present in the body or not if already there then even if the person has illness it can aggravate(homeopaths say taking too many doses or too high or low potency can cause aggravation they call it healing cricis.)
The medicine checks its own potency compare with the illness duration how cronic it is (for this case how much the temparature is how old the fever is etc) then acts accordingly.
Homeopaths say very high potency or low potency cause aggravation
so the medicine has to compare its potency number of dose and amount along with persons present situation. My god how much complicated it is
This has to happen because homeopaths say if person is ill then matching the symptoms they give medicine it cures the patient and if the symptoms do not match
it cause aggravation(Proving healing crisis aggravation whatever blah blah blah) I think every homeopaths will agree , it is there fundamental belief Right?
Do any one see any justification in it.
Common either the body has to decide or the medicine has to decide that person is ill or not
Can any homeopath has the ethics or guts to explain who decide the person or the medicine?
Lets say a medicine X is used mainly for 5 symptoms then if the person illness matches 2 symptoms what happens to other 3 symptoms.
Theoretically it should aggravate the other three symptoms so who takes the responsibility of increasing the problem for the concerned person?.
The fact is all the 5 symptoms will aggravate. the reason is if you take sugar(I am talking about normal sugar) it will test sweet does not matter what condition is your body how old are you
You are male female child or old.
If Mr Hanemann or Kent take a medicine they experienced some symptoms when you take the same medicine you will also feel the same thing.
After all they are also human being
(may be God for the homeopaths for their profession! thats why when a patient takes the medicine he or she gets cured but when they took the medicine they experienced lot of bad symptoms
may be they took all the bad effects of the medicine now when we are taking we are healing)
the dilution does not change the property of the medicine so even if you go infinite dilution like 10000000000000000000000000000
0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000..... homeopaths say if the symptom does not match then it will
aggravate they say they experienced with Nux 1M , Sulphur 1M some of them give advise like do not give silika 1M if it is not blah blah blah.. etc.
Another theory that homeopaths gives that a medicine has two power one is spiritual power that heals the symptoms and other is mechanical
power that cause the aggravation. I am not going to how many actual molecule of the orginal substance is there in medicine like 30C or 200C
But the basic question is what part is mechanical power and what part is spiritual power.Do they have any answer
Now a days homeopaths say they can cure malaria or any virus disease .
Because after you take homeo medicine the body creates antibody to heal itself
It is true no doubt about if any virus or poison comes in the body antibodies are created to protect the body.
But if you take a homeo medicine of say 30C or 200C how thus the body know which original substance came to the body
so it can create antibody accordingly!
Ok theoretically if we agree the Water or alcohol and the sugar pill remembers it or keeps track of it but it has to tell the blood .
My potency is very high do not search for the original substance you will not find it I am telling you what is the original substance now do the necessary thing.


I am trying to find out some reality.
Can any homeopath give some explanation please!

Ricky
 
  r_mat04 on 2007-10-27
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
Buy and read the book

The Science of Homeopathy

by Dr.G.Vithoulkus. It is available through most of the online book shops.

Your query's can't be answered on a forum, as the answers run into hundreds of pages.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
Homeopathy is very hard to study as our every medicine has its own particular sympton that was detected partly or fully on volunteers and on himself by sir samuel hahnemaan during his tenure of life.S hahnemman generally used low potency like 1x to 3x,later he gradually upgrate its potency.Generally molecule of medicine can be seen upto 12x potency and other above does not bear any molecule its full of alcoholic potenzied power.The question for applying Acconite for fever and pain we should apply its 30 potency first as lower potency some time call back its proving symptoms very rare to some one,but that do not harm it will subside within a day or 2.Reading of articles in homeopathic books seems one medicine can cure all disease of a man like Bryonia but in clinical practice that has shown quite inactive.So after reading a book or books a doctor cant be able to treat a patient so long he is not trying to treat the patient in his clinic gathering vast practical knowledge as homeopathic medicines have more better compatibility and thats coming from the different learned experienced doctor like Deoshlok sharma,dr.Kuldeep,Dr.Mahfuz,Dr.Riaz,Dr.Joe,Dr.Banajee,Dr.Pankaj,Dr.Rishiba and more,they are also donating their valuable achievements on this forum for the benefit of new comer doctor and prospective doctors and patient.It is proudness that this Abc homeopathy forum is contributing their best efforts for well being of doctor and seekers here.Booky knowledge always gives consternation among the mind of seeker of help.So better learn about homeopathy in practical.Thanks malaker
 
Dr.Haran ch malaker last decade
One should know the philosophy of homeopathy first, and the application part of it comes later with experience.

There is a vast practice by stalwarts like Dr.George Vithoulkas, Dr.Luc Deschepper, Dr.Vijayakar and thousands of others in the real world, who follow the Organon in true letter and spirit and are achieving marvelous results.

Where do the prescribers of this forum (including me )stand in comparision with those stalwarts?

When they can achieve cures without deviating from the principles of homeopathy, why can't we?

There are doctors who has a large practice outside these forums, and the success rate of those doctors is to be kept as the bench mark.

Most of the doctors who really manage to cure are those who follow the principles.

You have to wait till December to get Dr.Vijayakar's appointment.

Why do people bother to wait months together despite suffering to meet him?

It is because he follows the principles and cures his patients. That is why they don't mind the long wait. They know once they are in his safe hands the cure is much quicker, and hence they don't mind the waiting.

The homeopaths who follow the principles and hence have the best cures command a premium in any major city, and they charge upwards of Rs 350/- per consultation, and earn upwards of Rs 10000/- per day.

Each city has got atleast a hundred of such doctors. It is not coincidental that they all follow the principles of homeopathy.

If the doctors can understand the reasons for their mediocre results, and try to master the philosophy, and practice as per the well laid down principles, they too can reach those glittering heights as homeopathic practitioners.

Otherwise, the mediocre doctors have to satisfy themselves with mediocre living, by hanging around forums like these to catch their prey,or satisfy their false egos.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
A writer cant be a good prescriber its a real fact.Writer can keep themselves bussy to collect different things from different books and presently from different websites.Its not the policy of good prescriber,a good prescriber always replying to their patient without any fee over this forum with their best knowledge and achievent. And patients who have been taking or following the advices are improving quickly and its a good inspiration and expectation of seekers as well as to doctors.Forum is a good place to suggest medicine to patient and other learned should help by putting good prescription not to threating patient in the name of bad effets or contraindication.Its for information that homeopathic medicines are safe to use at all times and its gives and act as a body cleansing if it doesnt suit as per his disease too.S.Hahnemman and his young volunteers tooks lots of medicine and it appears that they were not suffering from any severe type of disease,overall s.hahnemaan leads a peaceful healthy life till his death and it was only possible to uproot any known or unknown disease in him.Thanks malaker
 
Dr.Haran ch malaker last decade
Hahn. used to take one medicine at a time for purposes of proving.

He used to wait for a long time before taking another medicine.

All the doctors I mentioned are good writers as well as practitoners. I am yet to find a bad practitioner who is a good writer.

Once you start writing, you have to keep your thoughts in order and make sure that what you write stands to scrutiny by colleagues.As such the writers of books tend to have very clear concepts, and that is the reason they are succesful prescribers too.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
Not even 5 percent of people who are being treated on these forums claim that they have been cured.

It would be interesting to see the urls of the threads where such cures are acknowledged in chronic cases.

Of course, acute cases can defintely be prescribed for and the patient can be ameliorated through these forums.

Even there, you will find that it is the single remedy approach that helped.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade
Lots of patients are geting cured with the help of this forum.It is a matter of gladness that inspite of their own work the respected doctors are coming here and serving advice on humanitarian ground for proper treatment to the seekers.In presence of such doctors here refering a patient near to his own doctor is clear violation and discipline of this forum as well as its earns bad name and inability of learned respected doctors those who are trying to illuminate this forum as a complete treatment center.Come and serve for the well being of sufferer.Thanks
 
Dr.Haran ch malaker last decade
Empty rhetoric won't convince any body.

I asked for references to be given, and even a couple of them will be good enough for analysis.

I know the forum rules very well, and I am not violating any thing.

One should be willing to prove the allegations they make. I am really interested to know which rule of the forum I am accused of violating.

Murthy
 
gavinimurthy last decade

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