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Are there any side effectof Natphos 6x and Magphos 6x

I'm an asian woman living in the States. I'm suffering from indigestion for a long time even when i was in my 20s. Now I'm 38... 5 feet 3inches and 42 Kg. Around 4 years ago my acid reflux got worst. I had my endoscopy done two times but they couldn't find anything wrong with me. Early this year, I found this forum and read about Natphos6x and Arnica30. I try them both but still keep taking 4 Natphos tablets each meal since Jan 09 I stopped taking Anica30 but added 4 Magphos tablets with my Natphos since Feb 09. I wonder about the long term side effect of taking these pills for so long. They help but didn't cure me. I don't want to go back to use strong dose of Nexium. My bleching and feeling fullness on my chest usually gets worst at night and horrible during my period cycle. Some time I have pain on my left side above my rib cage or in the middle of my upper chest. By the way, I'm taking digestive enzyme with my meal but my problem still exist. I'm feeling pretty hopeless. Please help.
and thank you so much for your time.
 
  varah on 2009-05-15
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day 1
please take three doses of carbo veg 30c at a gap of 4 hours.

day 2 to day 10
please take 4 tablets of natrum suph 3x thrice a day at a gap of 4 hours.

please report after 10 days.

please follow homeo restrictions like no coffee, no raw onion/garlic, no strong perfumes, don't eat or drink anything within 30 minutes before or after taking medicine.
 
kadwa last decade
please don't take natphos or magphos during the above treatment.
 
kadwa last decade
hello Kadwa,
Thank you for your reply. I'm traveling right now and will not be able to try your combination for another week. I will try when I get back to my town. However, after day one do I take carbo veg 30c with natrum suph 3x for total of ten days. Thank you.
 
varah last decade
However, after day one do I take carbo veg 30c with natrum suph 3x for total of ten days

carbo veg 30c is to be taken only on the first day.
 
kadwa last decade
hi Kadwa,
As I mentioned on my post, I do take 1 or 2 'digest gold' digestive enzyme tablets with my meal. Do I have to stop taking them if I'm taking your suggestion pill?
Thank you.
 
varah last decade
You may take one tablet. We will see your response to the treatment and then we will decide in future. Are these enzymes allopathic tablets or they are herbal medicines?
 
kadwa last decade
They are plant based enzymes. 100% vegan. Sorry, I don't know the meaning of allopathic. One more question... should I take carbo veg 30c and natrum suph3x before or after meal?
 
varah last decade
should I take carbo veg 30c and natrum suph3x before or after meal?

It is better to take first dose on empty stomach ie before meal, the rest of the doses (remaining 2) should follow at 4 hour gap.

But remember homeo restrictions. please follow homeo restrictions like no coffee, no raw onion/garlic, no strong perfumes, don't eat or drink anything within 30 minutes before or after taking medicine.
 
kadwa last decade
Hi Kadwa, I only can find Nat. Sulph. 6x. Do you think I can take the same dose you suggest?
 
varah last decade
I only can find Nat. Sulph. 6x. Do you think I can take the same dose you suggest?
Yes.

day 1
please take three doses of carbo veg 30c at a gap of 4 hours.

day 2 to day 10
please take 4 tablets of natrum suph 6x thrice a day at a gap of 4 hours.
 
kadwa last decade
Thank you. I will start the treament next week and will report back to you.(^_^)
 
varah last decade
Hello Kadwa,
Today is my 9th days of taking your suggestion pills. It definitely has been an improvement on my symptoms. I have less pain on left side of my stomach and belching a lot less and feel a lot better at night. Rarely have pain in my chest. Don't have food returned in my mouth and maybe only one time has a little bit of acid returned in my mouth with taking only Nat.Sulph.6x. and 1 digestion pill before each meal. However, sometimes after taking Nat.Sulph.6x I felt a light nausea. Overall, I feel a lot better. Thank you so much. Now after 10 days, what would you suggest me to do next? My concern is I'm feeling good with a little bit of problems right now. However as I mentioned earlier my symptoms usually get worst a week before my menstrual cycle and feeling bad all the way through and maybe 4-5 days after. Thank you so much for your time. I appreciate your help very much.
 
varah last decade
day 1
please take three doses of sepia 30c at a gap of 4 hours.

day 2 to day 7
please take 4 tablets of natrum suph 6x twice a day (only in the morning and evening) at a gap of 4 hours.

Please read my posts on the Anulom Vilom Pranayam and Kapalbhati Pranayam (these are the breathing techniques)by following the links given below. Practise these pranayams regularly for half an hour preferably in a garden early in the morning.
http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/133092/1
http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/134752/


please report after 7 days with the following details.

Patient ID: Sex: Age:

Please answer the following questions in a descriptive manner after careful analysis and recollection of previous experiences and happenings.

1. Describe your main suffering?



2. What other physical sufferings do you have in your body?



3. What mental sufferings / feelings do you have associated with your physical sufferings?


4. What exactly do you feel when you are at your worst?


5. When did it all start? Can you connect it to any past event or disease?



6. Which time of the day you are worst?

7. What are the things which aggravate your suffering and which are those which ameliorate the same?



8. Do your think your sufferings have relation to any external stimuli (like, change of place) or any internal biological changes in the body, like, menses (in females)?



9. When do you feel better, during hot weather or cold weather, humid or dry weather?


10. Describe your general mental set up? Are you Moody, Arrogant, Mild, Agreeable Changeable, Nervous, Suspicious, Easily offended, Quiet, Arguing, Irritating, Lazy etc.

- How do you feel before or during a thunderstorm?

- Do you like being consoled during your tough times?
- Are you sensitive to external stimuli like smell, noise, light etc?

- Do you have any typical habit or gesture like nail biting, causeless
weeping, talking to one self etc?

- How do you feel about your friends, family, your children and especially your husband / wife?

11. What are your fears and do you dream of any situation repeatedly?


12. What do you crave for in food items and what are your aversions?


13. How is your thirst: Less, Normal or Excessive?

14. How if your hunger: Less, Normal or Excessive?

15. Is there any kind of food which your body can’t stand?

16. Is your sweat normal or less or more? Where does it sweat more: Head, Trunk or Limbs?

17. How is your bowel movement and stool type?

18. How well do you sleep? Do you have a particular posture of sleeping?


19. Do you think you are able to satisfy your sexual desires in general?

20. How do you think you are different from others, if at all?


21. What medications have been taken earlier by you to treat the diseases and do you have any particular symptom surfacing after the medication?


22. What major diseases are running in your family?


23. Describe, how do you look like? Describe your overall appearance

24. (ONLY FOR FEMALES)

If you are not having normal menstrual cycles, please answer the following questions:

- Are the periods early, regular or late in general? How long do they last?
- Do you suffer from any kind of physical or mental discomfort before, during or after the periods?
- Is the flow scanty, normal or excessive?
- Is the blood thick bright red or pale watery?
- Do you notice any clots in the flow?
 
kadwa last decade
Please do not take any medicine and give the answers of kadwa's questionaire.


dr. mahfooz
 
Mahfoozurrehman last decade
Do you considered vegan digestive enzyme as medicine?
 
varah last decade
Hi Varah

Dr. Mahfooz suggested you that you should give the details first. On the basis of those details i should work out the remedy and you should take that remedy instead of sepia. He is not talking about vegan digestive enzyme. How are you now?
 
kadwa last decade
Hello Kadwa.
I just started to take the sepia today and plan to follow
day 2 to day 7 with natrum suph 6x 4 tablets twice a day (only in the morning and evening) at a gap of 4 hours.

I'm doing OK today. I had a little bit of discomfort of Gas in my stomach after took the 4 tablets of sepia so I burp it out and I felf better. I didn't remember the significant pain today.

My answer to your questions.
1. Describe your main suffering?
Lightly Discomfort to dull pain on the left side of my stomach below ribcage. If i starting to release the gas by burping out in severe case I will feel pain like heartburn in the middle of my chest below my breast. Sometime I feel really full after meal and sometime( not that often)I have acid or food return in my mouth.

2. What other physical sufferings do you have in your body?
My joint especial my knee and my wrist. However I work in retail so i do have to stand on the concrete floor at least 8 hr./day

3. What mental sufferings / feelings do you have associated with your physical sufferings? Tried and depress and worry since I'm only 38 years old.

4. What exactly do you feel when you are at your worst?
Pain in stomach. Severe belching.

5. When did it all start? Can you connect it to any past event or disease?
At least 7 years ago. No significant disease. I do remember when i was younger I always have problem with my digestion. That is why I stop eating red meat. Milk make me sick in my stomach.


6. Which time of the day you are worst?
At night. 2-3 hour after dinner or before bed time ( normally go to bed around midnight and my dinner is around 7.30pm). Sometime I starting feeling bad after my 2-3 hr after lunch.

7. What are the things which aggravate your suffering and which are those which ameliorate the same?
Stress and menstrual cycles aggravate my symptom.

8. Do your think your sufferings have relation to any external stimuli (like, change of place) or any internal biological changes in the body, like, menses (in females)?
Definitely menses.

9. When do you feel better, during hot weather or cold weather, humid or dry weather?
I don't feel the different. I like warm weather of course but not hot.

10. Describe your general mental set up? Are you Moody, Arrogant, Mild, Agreeable Changeable, Nervous, Suspicious, Easily offended, Quiet, Arguing, Irritating, Lazy etc.
I'm friendly, love to please people. Stress and Nervous easily. Short temper.

- How do you feel before or during a thunderstorm?
Nervous. I'm scare of lighting and crazy weather.

- Do you like being consoled during your tough times?
NO
- Are you sensitive to external stimuli like smell, noise, light etc?
SMELL. Some scent bother me like food( if I'm not eating )or body smell.

- Do you have any typical habit or gesture like nail biting, causeless
weeping, talking to one self etc?
I sing in the car and talk to myself sometime.

- How do you feel about your friends, family, your children and especially your husband / wife?
Love them.

11. What are your fears and do you dream of any situation repeatedly?
I'm fear of lizard.
2 dreams. First, dream of school, I miss the class and make me fail to be able to graduate. Second, dream that I can't find a restroom and when I found it..it very dirty and disgusting.


12. What do you crave for in food items and what are your aversions?
I love sweet treat and I don't like beans.

13. How is your thirst: Less, Normal or Excessive?
Less but sometime I'm very thirsty after shower at night

14. How if your hunger: Less, Normal or Excessive?
Normal. If my stomach is feeling good I tend to crave more.

15. Is there any kind of food which your body can’t stand?
Beans or fresh banana, I don't like the texture.

16. Is your sweat normal or less or more? Where does it sweat more: Head, Trunk or Limbs?
I don't really sweat.

17. How is your bowel movement and stool type?
Hard to explain. Sometime is just fine. But sometime either feeling like constipation or diarrhea. My biggest concern is sometime I will have a severe gas pain shooting up and down my lower abdominal happen worst when I have my menstrual cycle.

18. How well do you sleep? Do you have a particular posture of sleeping?
I have a hard time sleeping. I did had great nights of sleep for a while after I started your treatment 12 days ago. But then it stop. I think it caused from my stress over my husband job problem.

19. Do you think you are able to satisfy your sexual desires in general?
Yes.

20. How do you think you are different from others, if at all?
Nope. We are human being trying our best to be happy.


21. What medications have been taken earlier by you to treat the diseases and do you have any particular symptom surfacing after the medication?
I started to treat my symptom with Tum, Zantac when I had food returned in my mouth long time ago. Then I starting to take acid ease Digestive enzyme...I had less food returned in my mouth but it gave me the pain symptom in my stomach since. Then I went to see doctors and had my stomach scoped and treat my symptom with Nexium. They all work at first and then I feel the same. Now I'm on a better digestive enzyme with probiotic. and natrum suph6x/3times a day. Feel much better but not cure.


22. What major diseases are running in your family?
High blood pressure, Diabetes and both of my parent has cancers.


23. Describe, how do you look like? Describe your overall appearance.
I'm thin and tall. Small bone.

24. (ONLY FOR FEMALES)

If you are not having normal menstrual cycles, please answer the following questions:

- Are the periods early, regular or late in general? How long do they last?
My cycles is not normal. I'm a 6 weeks cycles, sometime regular sometime late. It last for a week and 1/2
- Do you suffer from any kind of physical or mental discomfort before, during or after the periods?
I used to have almost no blood coming out when I was younger when I pasted my mid 30. I'm starting to have a very heavy period and very painful. but since I know how to manage my pain or understood the pain. I felt much better.
- Is the flow scanty, normal or excessive?
Heavy for the first and second day.
- Is the blood thick bright red or pale watery?
Lately, is thick dark to bright red.
- Do you notice any clots in the flow?
Yes

Kadwa, Please pardon my writing and spelling. I started to answer your questions very late at night and now is an hour pass my bed time. So sorry If my explanation is not clear.
Thank you so much for your time reading all these info.
 
varah last decade
You have given answers clearly. Please post your feedback to the new treatment plan ie sepia and natrum sulph after 10 days.
 
kadwa last decade
Hello Kadwa,
I have been taking the sepia and natrum sulph twice daily for about 5 days. Almost everyday by 5 or 6 o'clock, I have feeling of indigestion in my stomach. Uncomfortable and burpy. At night I'm feeling like light heartburn and one of the night I had liquid return in my mouth. Please advice. Thank you.
 
varah last decade
Please take natrum phos 6x twice or thrice a day instead of natrum sulph and see how it affects. Please don't carbo veg or sepia until i ask you to take.
 
kadwa last decade
Kadwa,
I'm just starting my period today. Maybe that is why my stomach is more sensitive. Should I switch to take natrum phos as you recommend?
 
varah last decade
See cell-salts or bio-chemic medicines do not have any side-effects. So you may switch at any stage and switch back if you think that the earlier one was better. You may also take 2-4 pellets of mag phos 6x thrice a day if that helps you during period in addition to natrum sulph or natrum phos. Instead of taking 4 pellets of natrum sulph or natrum phos you may try 2 pellets each of both ie natrum sulph and natrum phos.
 
kadwa last decade
Thanks Kadwa. I will try the mix combination and will let you know how I feel.
 
varah last decade
Hello Kadwa, it has been almost a month since we chat last. The combination of 2 Natrum Sulph and 2 Natrum Phos pellets/ 3 times a day help me the most. I feel that this is the most period of time I'm in control with my symptom. However, if I reduce to 2 times a day I will have some discomfort at night. Do you think how much longer I have to take the cell-salts?I'm also trying to get pregnant. Do you think it is ok to continue taking the pills? Thank You
 
varah last decade
day 1
please take three doses of carbo veg 30c at a gap of 4 hours.

day 2 to day 10
please take 1 tablet each of natrum suph 6x and natrum phos 6x thrice a day at a gap of 4 hours.

Do you think how much longer I have to take the cell-salts?
If you could do the breathing exercises that i have suggested earlier, you will not have any need to take cell-salts. i think that your busy schedule does'nt permit you to do the breathing exercises.

Let us see whether we are able to bring down the dosage of cell-salts after implementing our latest treatment plan.

I'm also trying to get pregnant. Do you think it is ok to continue taking the pills?
Cell salts can be safely taken during pregnanacy.
 
kadwa last decade

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