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Graphites 30-wet dose

Hello,

I have started a homeopathic treatment since December and was hoping for some feedback from more experienced individuals who practice homeopathy. Here is my story:

I have had skin problems like eczema and dry skin for years. Especially on my face. I had been seeing a dermatologist who looked at me every 6 weeks and would adjust the strengths of steroid creams and hydrocortisones. These were applied mostly above my lip under my nose where I have a dry cracking patch of skin that sometime had a water like liquid secrete. I noticed I would get hives of my face as well. The doctor said it was pimples…but I knew it wasn’t because they would disappear overnight. I had dry patches on my scalp as well. I used the creams almost everyday but if I stopped, the problem was back.

Last summer, I was in a lot of stress for personal reasons and my skin flared up like never before. I had inflamed skin and my scalp was itching and burning. I knew that the condition of my skin was related to other internal discomforts.

I started to see a homeopath for a more holistic treatment. I was consulted and given a few different remedies that I changed every 3 days until I found a remedy that sparked a significant change to find a fit. I took couple of different remedies. The remedies all seemed to aggravate my condition and I was in pain. Finally, I was given a remedy that made me feel better right away. It was graphites 30. Now, After the first few doses taken about every 3 weeks I have been advised to take wet doses. Here is my concern. I am a little confused about when to take the doses. I am told only to take them when “needed”. When my condition gets worse I should take a dose. With the wet doses I am placing 3 granules in a bottle of spring water bottle and I have to tap it, increasing the taps each time I take a dose. I take only one sip.

What is your opinion about wet doses and tapping and should I be taking doses more frequently? From my understanding people take doses a few times a day! My skin has not been back to perfect still. It has improved from the worst it has been…but has not fully recovered. It gets “better” then more aggravated. I am 20 yrs old, most of my discomfort is on my scalp and face.

Any thoughts? Some advice would be greatly appreciated :)
 
  imstree on 2011-07-22
This is an internet forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
It seems a bit unreasonable that a practitioner is leaving you on your own with this. It is our job to guide and manage your treatment. I don't really understand that.

There are a couple of things that I would normally need to know before advising on dosage.

1. How much improvement do you have?

2. Where has the improvment taken place?

3. Has improvement occurred in symptoms and areas other than the skin (sleep, energy, emotional, mental, appetite etc)?

4. How long does improvement last?

5. Does the improvement vanish completely after awhile (complete relapse) or do see the symptoms fall back to a level that is still better than they were originally (some things are better, some are the same, or everything is better in some way)?

6. Does the improvement disappear suddenly, or is it a slow return?

7. Is anything worse than it was (other symptoms you have other than the skin), either when you stop using the remedy or while you are using it?

8. Have any new symptoms appeared, in any location or area of your health?

David Kempson
Professional Homoeopath
 
brisbanehomoeopath 7 years ago

You are also not being given the correct method for dosing. Dosage needs to be done according to the guidelines in our Organon of Medicine to get the most of homoeopathic treatment.

Firstly, you need to create a separate dosing bottle. Get a bottle with a dropper, 15-30mls in size, and fill it with a mixture of water and alcohol (5 parts to 1 part). Dissolve 2-4 granules into this mixture. Your doses will be made from this bottle.

Hit the bottle firmly against the palm of your hand, or another elastic surface like a book. It should be a firm hit not a tap. 2 hits is enough to begin with, and should not be increased unless it is clear that it is needed. The water in this bottle will 'remember' the number of times you have hit it, so that subsequent doses will be stronger (necessary to overcoming the resistance of your disease).

Place 1 drop into an amount of water - I may start with anything from 1/4-1 full cup (62ml-250ml) depending on the sensitivity of the patient. Stir thoroughly and take 1 teaspoon into the mouth. Throw the rest of the cup away.

This is one dose. Repeat doses would be started from the 2 hits on the bottle.

Each step of this process can be adjusted to reduced aggravation or to increase the effect of the medicine. In order to be able to do this, it is important to measure each step (count the hits, the drops, measure the water etc).
 
brisbanehomoeopath 7 years ago

I truly appreciate the detailed feedback. I can't thank you enough!

Dr. Kempson,

1. How much improvement do you have?
There is improvement from the worst condition I was in when I had first stopped all the medications and creams. I must add that I was in school at that time, more stressed, and it was winter….so I think my skin was naturally more dry. I would say over 50% improvement now.

2. Where has the improvement taken place?
The improvement is on my scalp. Before it was more red and scaly, and more sticky, I lost hair from itching. Now it is dry and flaky but less painful. My upperlip, burns and is red with a little flaking but much better than before. The rest of my face has cleared up…I’ll get randon hives rarely.

3. Has improvement occurred in symptoms and areas other than the skin (sleep, energy, emotional, mental, appetite etc)?
Yes,greatly! I work out everyday now, my diet has improved, I have much more energy aswell. I am on summer holidays so I have more time for myself which makes this easier and less stressful though.

4. How long does improvement last?
Improvement of the skin lasts a few weeks 2-3 then I feel the need to take another dose..but I always try and wait.

5. Does the improvement vanish completely after awhile (complete relapse) or do see the symptoms fall back to a level that is still better than they were originally (some things are better, some are the same, or everything is better in some way)?
Symptoms fall back to a level that is still better- some things better others the same. For example, my upper lip may get worse, scalp the same and vice versa. To tell you the truth it is my irritability that changes as well. I itch more and am more uneasy when I feel like I need another dose.

6. Does the improvement disappear suddenly, or is it a slow return?
Slow return…I have to think and track my condition

7. Is anything worse than it was (other symptoms you have other than the skin), either when you stop using the remedy or while you are using it?
No, overall better.

8. Have any new symptoms appeared, in any location or area of your health?
No other symptoms have appeared…but there is one thing I should add. I have had a lump in my neck that is visible when I swallow or when I am still. This has been for years now. I got thyroid tests which were fine, but I am being sent to a specialist to check the size of the nodule. I don’t plan on taking meds because my homeopath says graphites should help with this as well. She said I should drink spring water as tap water has too much fluoride. Some times I feel my neck lump more than other days. I noticed that the spring water has helped.

As for the bottle…I have been using a fresh plastic waterbottle and dumping it once I hit it a certain number of times for my dose. I did not know you could save the mixture for later use. In the start I was hitting it 5 times and that is when I saw more improvement. I kept it at that, but I started seeing less improvement so I was told that I had to increase hitting because 5 was not strong enough. I did 20 hits last time and the next will be 25. My homeopath says that if I don’t see improvement I should switch to graphites 200 wet doses.

My homeopath is a family friend who isn’t charging me for advice though I insist to pay. Though I have had face to face consultations most of my communication is by e-mail and I usually e-mail with a question. There are no follow-ups on her part. I don’t know if I should switch to another homeopath, as a student my expenses are high so I am hoping to keep her.
 
imstree 7 years ago

Well I would say that Graphites is probably the right remedy. Certainly as you go up in potency it will become clearer how precise a match it is, because the higher potencies only help if the prescription is exact.

It sounds like your friend hasn't propertly studied the part of the Organon on dosage. I would suggest taking my advice and making the dose bottle and following the instructions I gave.

You can go to this site to read up more on the importance of the Split Dose (and of doing it properly).

http://www.drluc.com/lecture-two.html
 
brisbanehomoeopath 7 years ago

Great! I will certainly read more about split dose. Was taking the remedy the way I explained still effective?

Just a few more questions to consider for future doses.

1. How often should I take a dose? Do you suggest I take it the same way I have been (waiting to notice aggravation of symptoms?)

2. Will I always have to increase hitting...or will it be stablized at a certain number at some point. If so, how will I know when to do this? ( will I have to increase to 200c?)

3.Is it normal to see improvement in one area but not in another?

4. If I had been using topical creams(hydrocortisones)before for years...is it likely that my treatment with homeopathy will take years?

Thanks Dr. Kempson :)
 
imstree 7 years ago

Btw while I am a trained and registered Homoeopath, I am not a medical doctor, so you can call me David :)

Dosage has to be tailored to the patient and the situation. Each time you repeat doses it really should be reassessed to see if you need it, to see if the case has changed, and to see if the dosage is effective.

Generally you would repeat only if one of three things has happened.

1. you were better then your symptoms began to return OR

2. you are better but there has been no further progress (you are stuck partway towards cure) PLUS

3. your symptoms have not changed into anything new (looking right across the board at mentals, emotionals, sleep, energy etc) PLUS

4. your symptoms have not become worse in any way.

You only increase the number of hits if the remedy has started to become less effective, or perhaps didn't work at all in the first instance. Hitting the bottle will not increase the remedy even to 31c without the liquid in the bottle being diluted into another bottle (potency increase comes from both the hitting and dilution). So the bottle will reach a saturation point.

When a potency becomes ineffective, you will either move no further forward despite repeat doses, or you will begin to relapse and be unable to stop it.

It is not normal for homoeopathic treatment to see improvement in one area and not another, if the remedy is correct. It is normal when the remedy is not well chosen however. When one area improves and another doesn't it means one of two things

1. the remedy is acting to palliate or suppress, and you will damage your health the longer this goes on (possibly permanently)

2. the potency is not correct, and it is unable to affect certain levels of the disease.


The use of cortisone in the past can indeed make it harder to cure you, or make it take more time. However the real aspect of the patient's disease that determines how long it takes is the degree of tissue change in the body. Suppression does tend to create more pathology in the body, and this will definitely affect how long it will take to get back to optimum health. Will it take years - that is hard to know. Prognosis becomes easier when you observe the changes from remedies, how stable they are, how deep they go.
 
brisbanehomoeopath 7 years ago

AoA, Imstree,

The wet dose is suggested to reduce remedy aggravation.

However, in order to satisfy your request that was thru email, the following additional information is required to help you. Therefore, please do the best you can in providing a detailed and accurate data.

1. ID:Imstree
2. Age
3. Sex
4. Single/Married
5. weight
6. Height ….
7. country
8. climate
9. List of your complaints

10. Since how long are you suffering from each complaint

11. Diabetic or non-Diabetic
12. Desire sweets/sour/salt
13. Thirst
14. Tongue and Taste
15. Current BP (without medicine and with medicine)

16. What exactly is happening?

17. How do you feel?
18. How does this affect you?

19. How does it feel like?
20. What comes to your mind?
21. One situation that had a
big effect on you?

22. How did that feel like?
23. What sensation do you experience in that situation?

24. What are you showing by that gesture of your hand (Habits or Actions)?

25. Current and previous remedies/medicines you are taking or took in the past?

26. Family Background
27. Educational Qualifications of the patient

28. Nature of work, what do you do for living?

29. Desires, likes and dislikes for food

30. Name of foods which increase your problem

31. Mind-behavior, anger, irritability, hurry, impatient…and so on.. How are you different from other persons, public speaking or not , you can describe all of the details about your behavior, love and affections.

32. Aggravation (increases-time, season,)& Amelioration (Decreases)

33. Attached here your photographs of the affected area. (if required/optional)

34. Location of the disease
35. Side of the problem (Right or Left), (Upper or Lower part of body)
36. Color of the secretions/discharges e.g urine, stool, sputum, Saliva etc.

For Females Only
37. When is the period during the month approx date? Any monthly cycle issues? Regular, early, late, before problems, after problems, pain, any other discharges?
38. Are you pregnant? If yes, please give pregnancy start date? Any current issues?

Regards
Nawaz
[message edited by nawazkhan on Thu, 28 Jul 2011 03:23:05 BST]
 
nawazkhan 7 years ago

Many thanks David!I will consider the details you have provided.Very helpful


Wasalam Mr. Khan,

1. ID:
2. 20
3. female
4. Single
5. 120 lbs
6. 5'8
7. Canada
8. humid continental
9. List of your complaints: I have discomfort and irritation of the skin. My scalp is dry and flaking. The skin above my lips is also dry and flaking. The dryness and peeling has spread on other parts of my face as well. My eyelids, the bridge of my nose, jaw line, etc. When serious,my scalp would burn and become sticky and very itchy. It would plaque. I had lost a small patch of hair from the severe itching. It used to be difficult to rest my head on a pillow. My upper lip, the skin under my nose has cracked and released a water-like liquid. It can be painful to stretch the skin.

10. Since how long are you suffering from each complaint: I had been seeing a dermatologist for my upper lip for years and he was giving me hydrocortisone. It has been well over 5 years. My scalp was bad a few years back, it healed completely ( I did use medication) and the symptoms reappeared last year. This was a time when the skin on my face was the worst it has been as well. More details are listed in the 1st post on this thread.

11. non-Diabetic
12. Desire sweets
13. Usually not too thirsty
14. Tongue and Taste? Not sure what you mean here. Taste buds are fine :) ?
15. Current BP- blood pressure is normal and what it should be

16. What exactly is happening?I have explained above. I feel irritated and itchy mostly and my body feels unease because of the condition of my skin.

17. I usually feel discomfort and unrest.
18. My attention is diverted to my symptoms and it is difficult for me to concentrate on other things.

19. Itchy, burning, dry
20. I think about weather my condition that I have had for so long can be cured or not.
21. My nephew was diagnosed with a rare life-threatening illness.

22. It had a great effect on my health and overall peace of mind.
23. I was very much stressed. Developed stomach problems (inflammation of the stomach lining, and feelings of anxiety).
24. I can say I am a type A personality. I am very active and self motivated.

25. (pasted from previous post) Last summer, I was in a lot of stress for personal reasons/nephew and my skin flared up like never before. I had inflamed skin and my scalp was itching and burning. I knew that the condition of my skin was related to other internal discomforts.

I was consulted by a homeopath in dec. and given a few different remedies that I changed every 3 days until I found a remedy that sparked a significant change to find a fit. I took couple of different remedies. The remedies all seemed to aggravate my condition and I was in pain. Finally, I was given a remedy that made me feel better right away. It was graphites 30. Now, After the first few doses taken about every 3 weeks I have been advised to take wet doses. Here is my concern. I am a little confused about when to take the doses. I am told only to take them when “needed”. When my condition gets worse I should take a dose. With the wet doses I am placing 3 granules in a bottle of spring water bottle and I have to hit it, increasing the taps each time I take a dose. I take only one sip.

In the past I have used hydrocortisones and medicated oils for the scalp and last year took medication Tecta a PPI for my stomach for 8 weeks

26. South Asian
27. completing university

28. currently a student

29. chocolate and sweets mostly. I love fruits

30. I have been told that citrus is not good for problems like eczema, but I have not experimented enough to identify which foods aggravate my condition.

31. I am always pushing myself towards improvement and like I mentioned I am self motivated. I do think a lot and am easily stressed. I do not get too angry and do not have too much of a temper. I do get irritated easily and can be impatient but I don't share my problems with others. I do not have trouble meeting new people and speaking in public. I am very friendly. I have taking on my leadership roles. I do not cry easily and am strong headed. I don't like to show my emotions and don't share feelings with others openly. I am family loving and mature.

32. Aggravation increases at times of stress. Exams, sudden bad news, upset mood. The worst it has been was during the winter when I tend to feel the lowest emotionally and the air is very dry and impacts the moisture in my skin. I feel better in the summer, the weather is more humid and stress is lower. I have seen over 50% improvement slowly while using my remedy.

33. Attached here your photographs of the affected area. (if required/optional)

34.Scalp and face
35. upper. Mostly the left side of my face and scalp. Above the ears and the rim of the hairline. I have experienced itchy dry, inflamed skin on eyelids and eyebrows. The sides of my face have had patches of dry skin. The middle of my upperlip, right under the nose is where I have had the problem the longest.
36. Clear like water. The secretions from the scalp are sticky and the upperlip when it cracks releases clear, colourless and odourless liquid.

For Females Only
37. Early in the month. Normal and on time. No major issues or concerns.
38. Are you pregnant? no

(pasted from above) I have had a lump in my neck that is visible when I swallow or when I am still. This has been for years now. I got thyroid tests which were fine, but I am being sent to a specialist to check the size of the nodule. I don’t plan on taking meds because my homeopath says graphites should help with this as well. She said I should drink spring water as tap water has too much fluoride. Some times I feel my neck lump more than other days. I noticed that the spring water has helped.

Thank you :)
[message edited by imstree on Thu, 28 Jul 2011 03:02:22 BST]
 
imstree 7 years ago

Is it possible to upload a small pic of neck lump?

When was the last time you took Graphites 30C?
 
nawazkhan 7 years ago

It is difficult to capture by a picture. I didn't notice it until my doctor pointed it out a few years ago. Here is an image I found on the Internet that resembles what the lump looks like when I swallow. It is more visible when I swallow.


Thankfully, it is nothing as severe as the issue discussed on that web link, but it looks kind of like that. My sister has a similar lump/nodule too. We both do not have thyroid problems.

As for the graphites, I took the last dose yesterday. 25 hits, 1 sip from a bottle of spring water. I have to still read how to make a split dose properly before I try what like David suggested.
 
imstree 7 years ago

AoA Imstree,

Thanks for the addl. info.

Please take Bacillinum 200C, 4 drops in 1/4 glass of spring water, stir nicely with a spoon, only one dose please. We will be requring to take a weekly dose of this remedy, around 4 doses in a month.

Also, please go ahead and purchase Arsenicum Album 200C asap.

Please stop all other remedies.

Please give feedback in a couple of days.

Many many prayers for your good health and happiness.

Regards
Nawaz
 
nawazkhan 7 years ago

WaSalam,

I do hope the image gave you a better understanding.

Before I purchase what you suggested, I just wanted to make one thing clear....not sure if you read my earlier posts, but since I have been taking graphites beginning in Dec.2011 it is not that I haven't seen improvement of my skin, that I have noticed for sure ( I noticed change for the dose I took 2 days ago). What I was a little skeptical about was not the remedy but the dosage. It is unclear to me when I should be taking the dose...there is no consistent timings suggested. It was recommended I take it 'when needed' when signs return. This was aprrox. every 3 weeks and to add to that, I don't know when to stop increasing the hits. I was guessing that the remedy was correct, it was a change in dosage you would suggest.

I hope that is clear.

If you still think I should start bacillinum, does 4 drops mean 4 granules, and does 1 dose mean one sip?

Also, what are the directions for the arsenicum album?

Peace and blessings! :)
[message edited by imstree on Fri, 29 Jul 2011 04:18:37 BST]
 
imstree 7 years ago

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