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No 200c in france! they say it is illegal!

Hello everyone! I have read many homeopathic books and even on this forum, I've been advised medicines in the 200c potency! However in France, I've called 10 pharmacies and they say we do not sell 200c and the laboratory says it's not legalized or commercialized in France...

They tell me they have 200K potency... Is it the same? They have C potency until 30, then nothing.

So for example, I badly need Lycopodium 200c. What should I do?
[message edited by rahman_hope on Tue, 01 Nov 2011 21:26:06 GMT]
 
  rahman_hope on 2011-11-01
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
Yes K is the same as C - the correct way to write K after a potency number is actually CK. It is just a different way of making the potencies. Straight C potencies are made with each step in a new vial. CK is made with the one vial, with a little of the liquid left to make the next step.

If you get 200K it will work in more or less the same way.

The other option for you would be to send outside of France for the potencies or remedies you cannot get.
[message edited by brisbanehomoeopath on Tue, 01 Nov 2011 21:34:10 GMT]
 
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
Thanks a lot. But why does Wikipedia on the following link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeopathy#Dilutions says that 200c is 400K? Go on the site and check in 'Dilutions', they say 200c is 400k...

So for Lycopodium 200c, if I have already started 200c and have a few pellets left, would you advise me to go for 200k and buy it tomorrow at the pharmacy?
 
rahman_hope last decade
I'm waiting for your reply Dr David Kempson
 
rahman_hope last decade
Yes go ahead, it is the (almost) same.
 
badshah19 last decade
For some reason I cannot access that link.

Follow this link to see the correct explanation for either CH or CK following the potency number.

http://www.ritecare.com/homeopathic/guide_potency.asp

Wikipedia does not always contain accurate information, and in this case they are wrong.

You shouldn't be using pellets for repeat dosing, you should be using the Split Dosing method as indicated in our Organon of Medicine. Apart from being more effective, it is also cheaper to do this (2 pellets make your dosing remedy which can be used over and over).

INSTRUCTONS FOR SPLIT DOSING

Firstly, you need to create a separate dosing bottle. Get a bottle with a dropper, 15-30mls in size, and fill it with a mixture of water and alcohol (5 parts to 1 part). Dissolve 2-4 granules or 2-4 drops of the medicine you bought from the pharmacy into this mixture. Your doses will be made from this bottle.

Hit the bottle firmly against the palm of your hand, or another elastic surface like a book. It should be a firm hit not a tap. 2 hits is enough to begin with, and should not be increased unless it is clear that it is needed. The water in this bottle will 'remember' the number of times you have hit it, so that subsequent doses will be stronger (necessary to overcoming the resistance of your disease).

Place 1 drop into an amount of water - I may start with anything from 1/4-1 full cup (62ml-250ml) depending on the sensitivity of the patient. Stir thoroughly and take 1 teaspoon into the mouth. Throw the rest of the cup away.

This is one dose. Repeat doses would be started from the 2 hits on the bottle.

Each step of this process can be adjusted to reduced aggravation or to increase the effect of the medicine. In order to be able to do this, it is important to measure each step (count the hits, the drops, measure the water etc).
 
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
The split dosing is a bit complicated for me...

I've been following Hadhrat Mirza Tahir Ahmad's homeopathic advice and he mostly advised granules...

So I can go for Lycopodium 200K in granules without any problem?
 
rahman_hope last decade
What if I need other remedies in 200c? For example I need Influenzium and Bacillinium in 200c? If I buy them in 200K, will they be as effective?
 
rahman_hope last decade
Yes there is little noticeable difference in the two methods of preparation, at least as in far as we have been able to tell.

Using the dry doses repeatedly is much less effective. Dr. Hahnemann the founder of homoeopathy advised against their use for redosing because you will find that you cannot cure a patient who needs multiple doses that way.

You can go to Dr. Luc Du Schepper's site to read an article on why it is important to use Split Dosing and not dry granules.

http://www.drluc.com/lecture-two.html

Complicated or not, it is there for a reason - to make sure you are cured. How much effort are you willing to put into that?
 
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
Okay, but I still didn't get it. Won't I be changing the potency of I dilute it the way you told me? And this is good if you want to take a remedy for a long period, is it also effective if I take a remedy for 4 days for example?
 
rahman_hope last decade
You want to change the potency. That is vital to continued use of a medicine. The problem with the dry doses is that you cannot alter the potency for each dose. You need to make it stronger each time you take it, which is only possible when the remedy is in liquid form (succussion or hitting of the bottle). Every single dose must be slightly stronger than the one before it to be effective.

There is a limit to how much hitting a bottle will increase the potency, as you need to add more water to the bottle to be able to increase the potency. Potency increase does not just come from Succussion, but from a combination of that and Dilution. Together these two actions create a potency step.
 
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
Just called the pharmacy again today. They said they have 200K potency but that it is NOT AT ALL equivalent to 200c.

They called Boiron laboratory and they told them that 200c and 200k is not the same thing at all, and that in France, even finding an equivalent to 200c is out of mind, it is just not possible! They say if you want 200c go to Germany or England but 200k is nowhere close to 200c...

What should I do now? :(
 
rahman_hope last decade
Well if they are saying it is different, ask them how. Get them to tell you how it is different. Personally I don't believe them, but if they make it there, then they can tell you how their version of 'K' potency is different to the standard 'C' scale.

If they tell you that the same vial is used to make each potency step, then that is the CK potency scale, and the difference is minimal. There is no other K potency known in the world, so unless they have invented something completely new and not told anyone.....

The only difference in that method is that no alcohol is used for each step, and the amount of medicine carried over between each step is not measured. However, in all other ways it is the same as the normal C scale (number of steps, succussed/shaken between each step, diluted). We do not know how much difference not measuring the exact amount of medicine used for the next step makes to this process. For them to tell you it is not at all like CH potencies is unfounded.
 
brisbanehomoeopath last decade
Well I'll myself call Boiron France tomorrow and ask them the question... :)
 
rahman_hope last decade
If I want a remedy in 1M, what would be the equivalent in K? 1000 K?
 
rahman_hope last decade
It's the same as far as we can tell. Whatever difference the preparation method makes we cannot see.
 
brisbanehomoeopath last decade

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