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Possible flu vaccine side effect

Trusting doctors I had my daughter vaccinated with pandemrix 4 yrs ago. From around the same time she has had an almost permanent blocked runny nose and sneezes every morning when she wakes and frequently through the day. I thought for a long time it was hay fever but it carried on through the winter months without ceasing. She is now seven. Is there a counter remedy that will help.Have tried to find thimerosol 30c but not available in uk.
[message edited by Aquadicko on Sat, 12 Apr 2014 22:05:04 BST]
 
  Aquadicko on 2014-04-12
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
There are not specific remedies for vaccinosis, you have to still take the case just like normal and prescribe on the basis of the overall picture.

In fact after such a long time, there is no vaccine to counter any longer, it will have been eliminated out of her system years ago. There is only the imbalance in her health, and regardless of the trigger, you must take the symptom picture as a whole and prescribe one remedy for it. This procedure never changes, regardless of what instigates disease.
 
Evocationer last decade
Is there a remedy for her blocked runny nose and sneezing as a normal treatment. Her health history :-
Traumatic birth as mouth open when checked by midwife and not breathing when born blockage in mouth or throat staff worked on her for aprox three mins then breathed and cried.
From age one to two years suffered regularly with constipation doctor visited and prescription was a mild liquid laxative.
I can see an ever so slight blue area line under her skin on her nose at eye level otherwise bright clever happy little girl not prone to illness. Good normal growth lots of energy never still. Normal skin colour not thin or pale.
Ate a nightshade berry when she was three no symptoms but was taken to hospital treated with activated charcoal but the hospital staff were unable to put a feeding tube up her nose to give charcoal.
Suffered two times with high temperature fever and short panting breaths two years apart but recovered first within a few hours and second overnight on each occasion with only calpol.
Normal sleeping..
[message edited by Aquadicko on Mon, 14 Apr 2014 18:13:36 BST]
 
Aquadicko last decade
1] Describe in detail the main complaints in regards to the exact location, exact sensation, and the way he/she expresses it (use body gestures to describe the complaint)
2] Factors that increase and decrease the complaint.
3] When did the complaint begin?
4] Any associated complaints? Describe in detail.
5] Did any event happen which caused/triggered the complaint?

MENTAL STATE OF CHILD


1] What is the effect of main complaint and associated complaints on him/her?

2] What are the thoughts/feeling/reactions associated with it? Describe in detail.
3] Any unusual sensation in their body. (Describe the sensation they experience during all stressful situations like nightmares, fears, before exam, with the incident, which had a deep impact on him/her.)

4] What are his/her fears (existing and/or imaginary)? What are the feelings/thoughts and the reaction associated with it?

5] Any incident which had a deep impact on him/her? Describe in detail. What are the thoughts/feelings/sensations associated with it? At that moment of time what were his/her feelings/thoughts, sensations and reactions associated with it?

6] What are the stories/fairytales that he/she likes to read / listen? What character attracts him/her the most and why? Describe about HIS/HER understanding of the stories. What are the feelings/thoughts associated with it?

7] What are his/her imaginations/fantasies? Describe in detail.
8] What are the dreams that he/she gets? What are the feeling/thoughts and reaction associated with it?

9] What are the nightmares that he/she gets? What are the feeling/thoughts and reaction associated with it?

10] What are his/her interests and hobbies?

11] Describe about the specific toys, games/specific TV serials, cartoon characters, movies he/she likes. What are the thoughts, feelings associated with it? What kind of questions does he/she asks related to that?

12] How is he/she at sports and other activities?

13] Describe about the drawing he/she likes to do/sing. What are the thoughts/feelings associated with it?

14] Any other activities does he/she like to do? What are they? What are the thoughts/feelings associated with it?
15] Describe all the qualities of your child, which makes him/her different from other children, which is unique to him/her.
16] What does he/she wants to become when he is grown up and why? What are his/her ambitions?
17] Whom does he/she idealizes and why? What about him that he/she admires the most?

18] How is his/her relationship/behavior with parents, teachers, friends, relatives? What are the qualities he/she admires in them? How is his behavior in school?

19] What kind of questions does he/she asks to his/her parents, relatives, teachers?

20] What are his/her views about the world?

21] What makes the child cry or laugh?

22] What makes your child very angry and irritable?
23] What does the child do when he/she is alone?

24] Is there any particular reaction does he / she throw about a particular person?

25] Have you observed any change in his/her behavior on starting a particular T.V./radio program? If so, what is it? How does he/she react?

SLEEP PATTERN

1] Describe the posture in sleep. (On the back, side, abdomen etc.) Any particular position in which he sleeps? In which position he can’t sleep?
2] During sleep does he /she:
a) Snore?
b) grind teeth?
c) Dribble saliva?
d) Sweat?
e) Keep eyes or mouth open?
f) Walk? Talk?
g) Moan? Weep?
h) Become restless? Wake up with a jerk?

3] Describe if anything else is unusual about his / her sleep: (sleepy, sleeplessness, etc. if so, when?)

APPETITE AND THIRST

1] How is his appetite?
2] When is he hungry?
3] What happens if he has to remain hungry for long?
4] How fast do does he eat?
5] How does your child feel before / during / after meals?
5] How much thirst does he has?
6] Any particular time when he is especially thirsty?
7] Does he feel any change in the taste and feeling in his mouth?
Food Substances: Which foods/drinks affect your child or aggravate some complains?
8} What foods does he crave? What foods does he hate?

STOOL
1] Does he have any problem regarding stools?
2] When and how many times a day does he pass stools?
3] When is it urgent?
4] Does he /she have any problem about bowel movements?
5] Does he/she have to strain for stool? Even if soft?
6] Does he/she have belching or passing of gas? Describe its character.
7] How does he/she feels after passing gas up or down?

Urine and urination
1] Any problem about urine?
2] Any strong smell? Like what?
3] Does he / she has any trouble before, during and after passing urine?
4] Any difficulty about the flow? Slow to start, interrupted, feeble dribbling etc.?
5] Any involuntary urination? When?


SWEAT/PERSPIRATION-FEVER-CHILL
1] How much does he/she sweat?
2] Where and on what part does he/she sweats the most?
] Does he/she perspire on the palms or soles?
4] Is the sweat warm, cold, clammy, sticky, musty, greasy, stiffens the linen etc.?
5] What is the smell like? E.g. foul, pungent, sour, and urinous.
6] What color does it stain the clothing?
7] Is the stain easy to wash off or difficult?
8] Any symptoms after sweating?

9] How does he react to hot/cold weather and monsoon?
10] When does he get fever or chill?
11] What brings it on?
12] Does he /she experiences any sense of heat or cold in any part of his/her body at any particular time?


CHEST-HEART – COLD – COUGH
1] Does he/she catch cold often? If so, how often?
2] Describe the symptoms, nature of discharge etc.
3] Is there any trouble in his/her CHEST or HEART?
4] Is there any trouble with his/her voice or speech?
5] Is there any difficulty in breathing?
6] Does he /she has cough?
7] Is it more at any particular time?



SEXUAL SPHERE (GENERAL)
1] Have you noticed any unusual desire/habit as far as his/her sexual sphere is concerned?
2] Any excessive indulgence in sex in past and present ? Any effect on his health?
3] Does he suffer from any sexual disturbance?
4] Any habit like (masturbation etc.) in past as well as present? How often?
5] Does he have increased or decreased desire for sex?
6] Any other symptoms?

FOR BOY
1] Any difficulty in erection?
2] Any other symptoms?

FOR GIRL
1] Menses: How are the periods; regular or irregular?
2] At what age did it start?
3] Was there any trouble then?
4] Mention number of days of flow.
5] Menstrual flow: Is there any change in quantity, color, smell or consistency?
6] Are the stains difficult to wash?
7] Have you noticed any variation in quality and quantity of flow during menses?
8] How and when?
9] Does she suffer in any way before, during or after menses? If so, describe.
10] Is there any white discharge?
11] If so, mention the nature, color, consistency and smell of discharge.
12] When and under what circumstances is it more or less?
13] Has the discharge any relation to menses?
14] What is the effect of this discharge on her general feeling? Or any of her symptoms?
15] Any itching, excoriation etc. due to discharge?
16] Does she pass gas from vagina?
17] Any trouble with breasts?


ANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT
1] VERTIGO- Does he/she has giddiness – vertigo?
2] FAINTNESS: Does he/she ever feel fainting?
3] HEAD: Does he/she get headaches?
4] EYES & Vision:
5] EARS & sense of hearing:
6] NOSE & sense of smell:
7] FACE & Facial expression:
8] MOUTH & sense of taste:
9] About LIPS, MOUTH, TONGUE etc.:
10] TEETH, GUMS e.g. carious teeth or bleeding gums.
11] Swollen gums:
12] LIPS: cracked, peeling of skin etc.
13] THROAT (including tonsils):
14] Any difficulty in swallowing?
15] Does he/she has any trouble in his/her BACK, LIMBS OR JOINTS? Describe in detail.
16] If he/she has any pains, do they shift?
17] In what direction do they extend?
18] Is there any complaint of skin: such as itching, eruptions, ulcers, warts, corns, peeling, keloid etc.? (Describe its name and character)
19] Any change in color of the skin or spots on any part of the body?
20] Is there any complaint or abnormality of the NAILS or skin around
21] Is there any complaint with the HAIR such as falling, premature graying, dandruff, dryness, oily, poor excessive or unusual growth?
22] Do wounds heal slowly? Do wounds tend to form pus?
23] Does he/she has a tendency to bleed?
24] Are his/her troubles one sided? Which one? Or more on one side? Do they proceed from one to the other side? Or do they alternate or shift?
25] Is there any trembling? When? Is there any sense of weakness? Where? When is it more or less? Is it in any particular part of the body?

FEW MORE QUESTIONS

1] In which season does he/she feel less well?
2] At what time during the day or night does he/she feel worst?
3] What position does he/she is comfortable with? (sitting / standing / lying)?
5] How long do your wounds take to heal, how long do they bleed for?
6] Are there any other external factors that either aggravate or improve any symptoms or just the general well being of your child?
 
Evocationer last decade
1] Describe in detail the main complaints in regards to the exact location, exact sensation, and the way she expresses it (use body gestures to describe the complaint)
Restricted and blocked air movement through nose both equal restriction or blocked. Upon waking in the morning within a minute sneezes many times, lots of clear mucous discharges with sneeze
Frequent wet droplet at both nasal openings
2] Factors that increase and decrease the complaint.
Spring increase winter decrease but never stops
3] When did the complaint begin? At age three
4] Any associated complaints? Describe in detail.
No associated complaints no pains in head, ears or body
5] Did any event happen which caused/triggered the complaint?
Started around age three no physical trauma or mental trauma.

MENTAL STATE OF CHILD


1] What is the effect of main complaint and associated complaints on him/her?
Handles the problem but would like it to stop. Thinks she is not as normal as some other children.

2] What are the thoughts/feeling/reactions associated with it? Describe in detail.
Doesn’t like it wish it would go away feels different from other children.

3] Any unusual sensation in their body. (Describe the sensation they experience during all stressful situations like nightmares, fears, before exam, with the incident, which had a deep impact on him/her.)
When stressed right leg twitches.

4] What are her fears (existing and/or imaginary)? What are the feelings/thoughts and the reaction associated with it?
Does not like scary cartoon characters at all. His mostly includes most Disney movies as there is always a bad person and she insists on watching with father close.

5] Any incident which had a deep impact on her? Describe in detail. What are the thoughts/feelings/sensations associated with it? At that moment of time what were his/her feelings/thoughts, sensations and reactions associated with it?
Recently seeing riots on tv in the Ukraine gives her dreams about fires see below

6] What are the stories/fairytales that he/she likes to read / listen? What character attracts him/her the most and why? Describe about HIS/HER understanding of the stories. What are the feelings/thoughts associated with it?
Tinker bell, Rapunzel only likes lady characters.

7] What are his/her imaginations/fantasies? Describe in detail.
Always wanted a dog
8] What are the dreams that he/she gets? What are the feeling/thoughts and reaction associated with it?
Does have nice dreams but can’t remember content but remembers feeling happy

9] What are the nightmares that he/she gets? What are the feeling/thoughts and reaction associated with it?
Fires on houses and on playgrounds, Getting lost with another person. Losing mummy in a shop when she went to look at bread then some other person was there with her but does not know who. Note could be that we used to her off for trying to hide from us in shops as a child.

10] What are his/her interests and hobbies?
Drawing colouring particularly hearts, dogs, people (mostly parents)

11] Describe about the specific toys, games/specific TV serials, cartoon characters, movies he/she likes. What are the thoughts, feelings associated with it? What kind of questions does he/she asks related to that?
Dresses toy dogs in dolls clothes and makes houses for them to live in will take clothes off dolls to dress dogs. Favourite dog toy has been given dress and tiara from another doll.

12] How is he/she at sports and other activities?
Gymnastics and street dance very keen and gets achievement certificates.

13] Describe about the drawing he/she likes to do/sing. What are the thoughts/feelings associated with it?
Characters usually in a field with flowers and the sun in the background dogs have fluffy coats and large black eyes.

14] Any other activities does he/she like to do? What are they? What are the thoughts/feelings associated with it?
Watches youtube Barbie and childrens cartoons not keen on non cartoon films.

15] Describe all the qualities of your child, which makes him/her different from other children, which is unique to him/her.
No fear of adults. Comfortable in adult company. Probably because only child in house

16] What does he/she wants to become when he is grown up and why? What are his/her ambitions? Wants to be a horse rider.
Her answer ….. not the police because they lock people up
17] Whom does he/she idealizes and why? What about him that he/she admires the most?
Parents especially father because he usually plays teaches and has time for her

18] How is his/her relationship/behavior with parents, teachers, friends, relatives? What are the qualities he/she admires in them? How is his behavior in school?
Good loving relationship with parents dotes on father good relationship with friends. Plays well with friends children. Tries to please teachers and always good reports back on her behaviour from school

19] What kind of questions does he/she asks to his/her parents, relatives, teachers?
Wants to know about parents life adventures from past.

20] What are his/her views about the world?
Doesn’t like fires seen on tv in the Ukraine as Sister lives there

21] What makes the child cry or laugh?
Tickling, playing with father bouncing running and dancing with mother Cries when parents tell her off and when she falls over at school.

22] What makes your child very angry and irritable?
Frustration when can’t do or achieve something
23] What does the child do when he/she is alone?
Never alone but when parents busy plays with her toys by herself , draws and colours

24] Is there any particular reaction does he / she throw about a particular person?
None noticeable

25] Have you observed any change in his/her behavior on starting a particular T.V./radio program? If so, what is it? How does he/she react?
Does not like mothers Russian TV programs as a bit violent at times.

SLEEP PATTERN

1] Describe the posture in sleep. (On the back, side, abdomen etc.) Any particular position in which he sleeps? In which position he can’t sleep?
Sometimes back mostly right hand side always to right hand side of bed. Rare occasions on front knees up
2] During sleep does he /she:
a) Snore?
Sometimes when nose blocked mostly breathing through mouth
b) grind teeth?
no
c) Dribble saliva?
No
d) Sweat?
no
e) Keep eyes or mouth open?
mouth
f) Walk? Talk?
no
g) Moan? Weep?
no
h) Become restless? Wake up with a jerk?
no

3] Describe if anything else is unusual about his / her sleep: (sleepy, sleeplessness, etc. if so, when?)
Occasional coughs three four ties and occasional sneezing. Likes night light on not main lamp.

APPETITE AND THIRST

1] How is her appetite?
Acceptable not a voracious eater and will not eat straight from school so will refuse offers of food for a few hours before finally telling us she is hungry

2] When is she hungry?
Fills quickly
3] What happens if he has to remain hungry for long?
Complains of tummy hurts
4] How fast do does he eat?
Very slow but watches on computer while eating
5] How does your child feel before / during / after meals?
No issues
5] How much thirst does he has?
Normal
6] Any particular time when she is especially thirsty?
After school

7] Does he feel any change in the taste and feeling in his mouth?
no
Food Substances: Which foods/drinks affect your child or aggravate some complains?
Some sweets cause raised activity.
8} What foods does she crave? What foods does he hate?
Crave Ice cream but rarely gets only likes mums cooking won’t try new things readily does not like hot food

STOOL
1] Does he have any problem regarding stools?
no
2] When and how many times a day does he pass stools?
Usually once daily
3] When is it urgent?
none
4] Does he /she have any problem about bowel movements?
no
5] Does he/she have to strain for stool? Even if soft?
Sometimes strain
6] Does he/she have belching or passing of gas? Describe its character.
Some gas occasionally
7] How does he/she feels after passing gas up or down?
No issues

Urine and urination
1] Any problem about urine?
no
2] Any strong smell? Like what?
no
3] Does he / she has any trouble before, during and after passing urine?
no
4] Any difficulty about the flow? Slow to start, interrupted, feeble dribbling etc.?
no
5] Any involuntary urination? When?
no


SWEAT/PERSPIRATION-FEVER-CHILL
1] How much does he/she sweat?
Only after exercise
2] Where and on what part does he/she sweats the most?
Head and under arms
] Does he/she perspire on the palms or soles?
no
4] Is the sweat warm, cold, clammy, sticky, musty, greasy, stiffens the linen etc.?
Cold sweat on head no odours
5] What is the smell like? E.g. foul, pungent, sour, and urinous.
No odour
6] What color does it stain the clothing?
No colour
7] Is the stain easy to wash off or difficult?
8] Any symptoms after sweating?
no

9] How does he react to hot/cold weather and monsoon?
Naturally warm does not suffer much from cold temps no problems in hot weather
10] When does he get fever or chill?
Only had two fevers
11] What brings it on?
unknown
12] Does he /she experiences any sense of heat or cold in any part of his/her body at any particular time?
no


CHEST-HEART – COLD – COUGH
1] Does he/she catch cold often? If so, how often?
rarely
2] Describe the symptoms, nature of discharge etc.
clammy and full block nose
3] Is there any trouble in his/her CHEST or HEART?
no
4] Is there any trouble with his/her voice or speech?
no
5] Is there any difficulty in breathing?
no
6] Does he /she has cough?
yes
7] Is it more at any particular time?
Night cough when lying down before sleeping



SEXUAL SPHERE (GENERAL)
1] Have you noticed any unusual desire/habit as far as his/her sexual sphere is concerned?
2] Any excessive indulgence in sex in past and present ? Any effect on his health?
3] Does he suffer from any sexual disturbance?
4] Any habit like (masturbation etc.) in past as well as present? How often?
5] Does he have increased or decreased desire for sex?
6] Any other symptoms?

FOR BOY
1] Any difficulty in erection?
2] Any other symptoms?

FOR GIRL
1] Menses: How are the periods; regular or irregular?
2] At what age did it start?
3] Was there any trouble then?
4] Mention number of days of flow.
5] Menstrual flow: Is there any change in quantity, color, smell or consistency?
6] Are the stains difficult to wash?
7] Have you noticed any variation in quality and quantity of flow during menses?
8] How and when?
9] Does she suffer in any way before, during or after menses? If so, describe.
10] Is there any white discharge?
11] If so, mention the nature, color, consistency and smell of discharge.
12] When and under what circumstances is it more or less?
13] Has the discharge any relation to menses?
14] What is the effect of this discharge on her general feeling? Or any of her symptoms?
15] Any itching, excoriation etc. due to discharge?
16] Does she pass gas from vagina?
17] Any trouble with breasts?


ANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT
1] VERTIGO- Does he/she has giddiness – vertigo? no
2] FAINTNESS: Does he/she ever feel fainting? no
3] HEAD: Does he/she get headaches? no
4] EYES & Vision: no
5] EARS & sense of hearing: no
6] NOSE & sense of smell: as above
7] FACE & Facial expression:no
8] MOUTH & sense of taste: no
9] About LIPS, MOUTH, TONGUE etc.:no
10] TEETH, GUMS e.g. carious teeth or bleeding gums. no
11] Swollen gums: no
12] LIPS: cracked, peeling of skin etc.no
13] THROAT (including tonsils): no
14] Any difficulty in swallowing? no
15] Does he/she has any trouble in his/her BACK, LIMBS OR JOINTS? Describe in detail. no
16] If he/she has any pains, do they shift? no
17] In what direction do they extend? n/a
18] Is there any complaint of skin: such as itching, eruptions, ulcers, warts, corns, peeling, keloid etc.? (Describe its name and character)
Occasional Itching backs of legs sometimes back relieved by intensive care cream after bath
19] Any change in color of the skin or spots on any part of the body? no
20] Is there any complaint or abnormality of the NAILS or skin around
Fine skin looks like short cotton thread sides of some nails
21] Is there any complaint with the HAIR such as falling, premature graying, dandruff, dryness, oily, poor excessive or unusual growth? no
22] Do wounds heal slowly? Do wounds tend to form pus? Yes good healing if cut
23] Does he/she has a tendency to bleed? no
24] Are his/her troubles one sided? Which one? Or more on one side? Do they proceed from one to the other side? Or do they alternate or shift? no
25] Is there any trembling? When? Is there any sense of weakness? Where? When is it more or less? Is it in any particular part of the body? n/a

FEW MORE QUESTIONS

1] In which season does he/she feel less well? Spring feels less well
2] At what time during the day or night does he/she feel worst? evening time
3] What position does he/she is comfortable with? (sitting / standing / lying)? Sitting
5] How long do your wounds take to heal, how long do they bleed for? Short time normal
6] Are there any other external factors that either aggravate or improve any symptoms or just the general well being of your child?
Saline nose squirt used to improve symptoms but now she refuses to take them.
 
Aquadicko last decade
Alright I will look over this today.
 
Evocationer last decade
This article gives more information on how Vaccines can affect a person who was perfectly healthy and now suffers from their after effects.

I have already posted it on the ABC last week.



BBC News - Tamiflu: Millions wasted on flu vaccine

I am copying a report from the BBC website of yesterday who report that they have discovered how the UK has spent £473 MILLION in purchasing stockpiles of vaccines of Tamiflu which did not help to ensure that those vaccinated were immunised from them.

We are forgetting the side and after effects of the many other vaccines administered for Bird Flu H5N1, Swine Flu H1N1 and others which also caused serious side effects and even fatalities which were all promoted by the respective governments in many developed countries which did not have any positive results in preventing infection from these Viruses.


BBC News - Tamiflu: Millions wasted on flu drug, claims major report

Tamiflu: Millions wasted on flu drug, claims major report

10 April 2014 Last updated at 00:56 By James Gallagher Health and science reporter, BBC News

Hundreds of millions of pounds may have been wasted on a drug for flu that works no better than paracetamol, a landmark analysis has said.

The UK has spent £473m on Tamiflu, which is stockpiled by governments globally to prepare for flu pandemics,

The Cochrane Collaboration claimed the drug did not prevent the spread of flu or reduce dangerous complications, and only slightly helped symptoms.

The manufacturers Roche and other experts say the analysis is flawed.

The antiviral drug Tamiflu was stockpiled from 2006 in the UK when some agencies were predicting that a pandemic of bird flu could kill up to 750,000 people in Britain. Similar decisions were made in other countries.

Hidden data
The drug was widely prescribed during the swine flu outbreak in 2009.

Drug companies do not publish all their research data. This report is the result of a colossal fight for the previously hidden data into the effectiveness and side-effects of Tamiflu.

It concluded that the drug reduced the persistence of flu symptoms from seven days to 6.3 days in adults and to 5.8 days in children. But the report's authors said drugs such as paracetamol could have a similar impact.

On claims that the drug prevented complications such as pneumonia developing, Cochrane suggested the trials were so poor there was 'no visible effect'.

Tamiflu was widely used during the swine flu outbreak
Another justification for stockpiling was to slow the spread of the disease to give time for a vaccine to be developed. The report's authors said 'the case for this is simply unproven' and 'there is no credible way these drugs could prevent a pandemic'.

It also claimed that the drug had a number of side-effects, including nausea, headaches, psychiatric events, kidney problems and hyperglycaemia.

Carl Heneghan, Professor of Evidence-Based Medicine at the University of Oxford and one of the report's authors, told the BBC: 'I think the whole £500m has not benefited human health in any way and we may have harmed people.

Analysis
James Gallagher Health and Science reporter, BBC News
'Does a drug work?' should be an easy question to answer. Yet after hundreds of millions of pounds, either down the drain or saving lives depending on your stance, this question is being asked of Tamiflu.
It stems from the way drugs are approved. Pharmaceutical companies conduct trials, some but not all of the data is made publicly available and regulators decide if it works. It is estimated that, entirely legally, half of clinical trials have never been reported and that favourable data is more likely to published.
The UK Public Accounts Committee said the lack of data available to researchers and doctors was 'of extreme concern'.
So the Tamiflu saga raises another important question - what other drugs are we using that might not work as well as we thought?
'The system that exists for producing evidence on drugs is so flawed and open to misuse that the public has been misled.'

Dr Tom Jefferson, a clinical epidemiologist and former GP, said: 'I wouldn't give it for symptom relief, I'd give paracetamol.'

The Cochrane Collaboration researchers have not placed the blame on any individual or organisation, instead saying there had been failings at every step from the manufacturers to the regulators and government.

'Wrong statistics'
However, there is disagreement about the findings and accusations that a simultaneous campaign to open up drug research is influencing the findings.

The pharmaceutical company Roche said 'we disagree with the overall conclusions' and warned they could 'potentially have serious public health implications'.

Its UK medical director, Dr Daniel Thurley, told the BBC News website: 'The definitive piece of research stands as the randomised control trials, which were shared with the regulators, which led to them in 100 countries around the world approving Tamiflu for treatment and prevention of flu.'

He said the Cochrane group had used the wrong statistics, which 'systematically underestimate the benefits' of the drug, and used 'unorthodox' methods to analyse the side-effects.

He concluded: 'One of the challenges we have here is actually knowing what they've done.'


Prof Wendy Barclay, who researches the influenza virus at Imperial College London, said reducing symptoms is children by 29 hours would be 'pretty beneficial'.

She told the BBC: 'Tamiflu works as well as any drug we have now or [that] is on the cards.

'Yes, I think they should replenish the stockpile. What else can you do if a pandemic strikes? We won't have a vaccine for the first six months.'

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It is a potential limitation of this study that the work has been carried out alongside campaigning on access to trial data”
Prof Kevin McConway Open University
She also questioned the validity of the research as it analysed the impact during seasonal flu: 'If it works a little bit in season flu, the chances are they'll work quite a lot better in a pandemic situation and get more people back to school and work.'

Kevin McConway, a professor of applied statistics at the Open University, said it was an 'impressive' piece of work.

He said: 'It is a potential limitation of this study that the work has been carried out alongside campaigning on access to trial data.

'The writers of the review have a clear position in this controversy, and, although I personally do generally agree with their position, I feel it does at times lead to some confusion between reporting the results of the review of these particular drugs and commenting on the general position on access to and use of unpublished data.'

The UK Department of Health said Britain was recognised as 'one of the best prepared countries in the world for a potential flu pandemic' and 'our stockpile of antivirals is a key part of this.

'We regularly review all published data and will consider the Cochrane review closely.'

The World Health Organization, which classes Tamiflu as an essential medicine, said: 'We welcome a new and rigorous analysis of available data, and look forward to consideration of its findings after it appears.'
 
Joe De Livera 9 years ago
There are very few symptoms to prescribe on here. I looked at the following rubrics:

Sneezing constant
Nasal obstruction with discharge
Spring aggravates
Dreams of fire
Ailments from vaccination
Desires ice cream
Aversion to hot food

The only remedy which appears in all these rubrics is Silicea.

Please obtain Silicea 30c, preferably in a liquid (oral medication) dose.
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
Thank you
Will get Silica 30c and report on symptom over time
 
Aquadicko 9 years ago
These are the instructions for dosing:

Hit the bottle firmly against the palm of the hand 5 times.

Place a single drop upon her tongue.

Do this once only and report the response after 4 days.
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
Have scoured the internet here in the UK and can only get tablet form. Will these work?
 
Aquadicko 9 years ago
Go here

http://www.helios.co.uk/

Order the oral liquid.
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
Got remedy from www.homeoforce.co.uk No change in symptoms day 4
 
Aquadicko 9 years ago
Ok, I assume there has been no aggravation either?

Assuming not, then I would proceed with a more aggressive treatment plan. Repeat the remedy daily for 3 days, exactly as before. Hit the bottle 10 times before each dose, and stop if any of her symptoms appear to worsen.
 
Evocationer 9 years ago
I will treat more. After day 6 I tried her with mixed pollen 30c liquid that I found on the site. I gave her 2 drops and the following day she went to bed with fully blocked nose and puffy eyes poor girl so I have given no more for now.
 
Aquadicko 9 years ago
Giving other remedies will interfere with anything I try to do, so it is important that you stick to one remedy at a time.

Remedy responses may not be visible until the second week after the dose in some cases, so using another remedy so soon can stop any progress.
 
Evocationer 9 years ago

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