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Diagnostic Importance?

Where is "diagnosis a case" stand in homeopathy with reference to its importance. Do you believe it is really important?

Do you believe in diagnosing a case before taking homeopathic case?

Do you believe in pathological findings / reports for confirming patients symptoms / complains?

Do you agree to study diseases and their causes?

Have your read anatomy, physiology, embriology, pathology, taxonomy, medicine, biochemistry before joing this profession (homeopathy)?

Are all symptoms mentioned in repertories physical symptoms or these are also linked with diseases and their symptoms?

I am not a doctor but a homeopath. please ;)
 
  I am not a doctor on 2004-10-05
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
John Stanton last decade
yes,all points are important!!!
 
John Stanton last decade
Read? I actually studied all in college (instead of medicine you mean human/animal diseases I hope).

It is not necessary for hom. to know diagnosis-but it is very helpful -some symptoms that are common for the disease are not that important in the selection of right remedy.
However-diagnosis is very important for the patient!!!
 
Astra2012 last decade
Astra,

If you are the same member who is on other forums too then you will be aware of this discussion. In which "FOOL" :D homeopaths are fighting on meanings of terminologies which are used in repertories. One is saying no lower limbs and legs used in repertory are same. Hahnemann was a fiction writer, hence he used these words as synoymous. Other is saying, in medical books, Hahnemann never used words just to show off his capibilities of writing but to denote somthing peculier.

One said "In Complete Repertory:

Upper limbs refers to arms

Lower limbs refers to legs

If the word limbs is used, I found it to be meant synonymously to extremities."

Other stupid homeopath said "Both having been used totally for denoting different sense in the repertories. Lower limbs will be used as a whole (internal & external) from femur head to fingers. In lower limb pelvic area (socket ball) is also involved but when you say legs then it is the part of limbs (start from above knee to ankle region). fingers not involved. This also refers to physical surface mostly."

Oh my God, Where we are standing?

Veterinary Dr. Saeed Salam
Qualified Homeopath for Human and Animals.
 
Dr SS last decade
hello dr.Saeed Salam,
Well, I'm always Astra2012, on other forums too , but I,m not aware of the discussion you mentioned - due to the complete lack of spare time I usually only scan forums and pick very few threads to read. I also -usually-skip fruitless kind of "discussion" about "splitting the hair in four" -as the one you write about. There is so much to REALLY discuss in homeopathy!It is science -and facts matter- but it is also an art-, and after repertorizing,and confirming with materia medica you need to "feel" the remedy is right.
and as they say:"if you can describe it, that's not it".
 
Astra2012 last decade
Dr SS

Open discussion should always be welcomed.

What is wrong in getting oneself clarified,and expressing one's opinions.

How can you call anyone stupid?

Pl.mind your language.

Join the forum you are referring to and express your opinions there.

You are most welcome.

Murthy
 
bandarbabu2000 last decade
Hello Murthy,
open discussions are welcome, certainly, some just have as much sense as dog chasing his own tail.

And from some you can learn a lot.
 
Astra2012 last decade
bandarbabu2000,

Probably due to:-
Veterinary Dr. Saeed Salam
Qualified Homeopath for Human and Animals.

Dr.SS,

You mentioned only "Veterinary Dr.", how then you say: Qualified Homeopath for Human and Animals? Just asking for curicity & language, although homeopathic is very "Dynamic" & "flexible".
 
Logical last decade
Dear Astra and Logical

It is very unfortunate that some discussions tend to have the only purpose of trying to belittle a particular individual.

If someone doesn't like the way a person is conducting himself,he can always tell him openly,the same thing.

Why this round about way of criticising?

Only cowards do that.

(I think I too have to mind my language)

Murthy
 
bandarbabu2000 last decade
In India, you will find Hakeem and Homeopath. Few are only practicing Hikmat (herbal therapy) and few only homeopathy.

I done both degree's but I mostly treat animals. I visit villages to treat animals. But if some human ask for help for his/her disease. I provide to them.

Veterinary Dr. Saeed Salam
Qualified Homeopath for Human and Animals.
 
Dr SS last decade
I did not present my views over limb's discussion. In veterinary world we say animals are four limbs. Might be you have observed that in our backward areas, our people say, the front leg of animal is injured. they do not say, the front arm of animal is injured. Each word has specific meaning and use.
 
Dr SS last decade
May be due to these differances--"Individual as a whole" might have come into the homeopathic picture.:)
 
Logical last decade
No! you people exploited the principle of "individualization". Individual does not mean that you don't understand what is disease and its causes? This is trick we (homeopath) play with allopath when they ask some technical question then we safe our skin by saying "no we don't have to know about the disease because we don't treat disease but the symptoms". This is most cunning behaviour which we homeopaths exhibit. I have seen so many time on dish channels where commercial homeopathic doctors are sitting with allopaths and they are passing funny remarks. Shame on us when we say "we don't have to know about limbs and legs difference. we have to treat the patient. This is our committement with homeopathy".

The worse stupidity involves in the whole discussion is, when a so called classical homeopath does not understand the clear difference among the rubrics then how can he or she treat the patient. This beyond my comprehension.

I think this comes under killing the patient and not treating the patient.
 
Dr SS last decade
How do you treat then?
 
Logical last decade
My dear Dr SS

Even if we recorded a symptom say as pain in limbs,where as you should have actually written pain in legs,we have to look at both these rubrics,as told by our great masters.

Infact, you have to look at all the synonyms.

This is because what you think as limbs,the author of the reperteory might have written as legs.

Read the logic of repertories available with bjain.Each author of repertory has his own method nad style.

Don't make a hill out of a molehole.

Problem with people like you, is you feel you know everything and all others are fools.

pl.stop this useless discussion.

Murthy
 
bandarbabu2000 last decade
relax murthy--you are mirroring your discontent..your past few postings in posts threads are showing that you are seeking hardship feelings onto yourself--no worry about others--just study --let your wisdom speak..
 
John Stanton last decade
John, Good advice for all not only for one.
 
Logical last decade
Anyway Limb can be related to:-
Symptom: Limb symptoms
Limb symptoms: Symptoms affecting the limbs
Detailed cause information for symptom: Limb symptoms:

Medical conditions causing symptom: Limb symptoms (60 conditions)
Medical conditions causing complication: Limb symptoms (11 conditions)
Types of Limb symptoms: Leg symptoms (97), Arm symptoms (108)
Symptoms: symptom center, symptom groups

Symptom: Limb symptoms at wrong Diagnosis
 
Logical last decade
hi john

you may be right.May be I should slow down a bit.

Thanks for the advice.

Murthy
 
bandarbabu2000 last decade
Hi !
This stuff seems like a discussion in the Korean Parliament !!!
 
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
hi murthy,

open kent, search "leg" and then "limb" and find out different rubrics related to these words.
 
Dr SS last decade
That is the point,I am making Dr.SS

If you were looking for "pain in limbs",you have to consider "all" the medicines,given both in limbs and legs.

Pl.read tylor's book,on how "not to do it".

Murthy
 
bandarbabu2000 last decade
I am talking in a general way.

I accept that we should consider lower limb as from hip to toe,and leg is from knee to ankle.

Some body educated on this,and thanks.

But,to tell this, is so much discussion required?

You can always share your knowledge with others,in a stright manner.

Yes, some times, to kindle more interest,you may pose it as a question,listen to different views, and finally tell what is correct.

But,don't ridicule a person,because he understood it differently.

All of us have to learn continuously, till we die.

I think enough for now.

Murthy
 
bandarbabu2000 last decade
Hi Dr SS

Forgot to add.

You never told us what it means to you.

What is a limb,and what is a leg as per you?

Murthy
 
bandarbabu2000 last decade
Unless I do not know to whom I am talking or status of education whether you are doctor or student and what is your academic background then it is very difficult for me to teach you. When you will disclose your status and id then I will be able to teach you according to the demand, situation and level of your qualification.
 
Dr SS last decade

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