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Yes.That's the way to be and to go.

Three cheers to my soul sister (I mean you my dear 11:11 by this loving address)and to all the others of our kind.

I am so glad to have found you here on this forum.

Rajiv
 
rajivprasad last decade
Quite an interesting thread, absolutely life positive.. For me the most important lines are

*Being spontaneous and in the moment is another thing I am attracted to, though I haven't totally mastered*.

This is what some of us are trying to live with. To live in the moment! , but I failing miserably. My past & future are coming on my way., though I know the key

“Drop the knowledge & you are in to it.”

Unfortunately I am finding it difficult to drop my learning’s.

There is a fear of loosing the identity in it.. I know for good that So long we hanker after our knowledge we can never be spontaneous.

Our past learning’s will be the obstruction. Hope to learn something more from you to drop it
 
sbahl last decade
sbahl - I don't see where having knowledge and being present moment oriented are mutually exculsive. You can have both! A wonderful example was Steve Irwin (do you know who he was?). He was a world class expert on wildlife and the environment, and he was the most alive and joyful person I have EVER seen.
 
11:11 last decade
Who doesn't know Steve. In fact I am also one of his fans.He was living energy. I really felt very sad on his premature accidental demise.With our knowledge we live with preconceived ideas, we react to any given situation, according to our accumulated knowledge. We see good & bad as per the norms of the society/Individual( again Knowledge), where is the chance of our being spontaneous, we will certainly react to each situation & this is what we have been taught by our teachers.We are more or less reacting,to every situation, as an intelligent human beings.Of course some with constrains & other with out.I am still finding it difficult to be spontaneous in my day to day activities, with my past knowledge available with me. When I say drop the knowledge, I am talking of all our own preconceived ideas/ concepts/ perceptions/biases/dualities etc.

I am still not sure , but I will try your way!
 
sbahl last decade
Steve's interaction with Nature probably kept him very centered and spontaneous. Nature opperates in the moment, and perhaps more contact with her would keep us all more balanced.
 
11:11 last decade
Of course it also killed him...

I think nature is something which is to be respected, not played around with for our own amusement, and it should be basic common sense that wrestling with aligators and swimming with dangerous animals is one day going to turn around and bite you on the butt.

11:11...the 'quote' thing was meant more generally, as lots here are fond of doing this on the subject of 'spiritualilty' and 'enlightenment', and in my opinion it doesn't really show any enlightenment at all, merely an ability to run with the pack, as I said. I think though the real issue I have with such people, gurus, swamis etc etc, stems from the fact I have already done the whole 'analytical spirtuality' thing some 20 years ago, and it gets you nowhere but sitting crosslegged on a floor chanting to yourself. In my opinion, the real test of spirituality is getting out there and making changes with what you have learned, not talking about it or analyzing it after the fact.

Best wishes.


-Jacob.
 
JCS2006 last decade
RE: If people integrate the law of attraction, nobody would be ill or unhappy.

I am all for positive thinking. However, I would have to disagree with this idea ^. When you're healthy, you can attribute it to pretty much anything: healthy diet, good lifestyle, positive thinking... But then when you get truly ill, no amount of positive thinking will cure you. Because positive thinking and good diet, etc were just a correlation; they were not the causation.

Yes, there are some psychosomatic illnesses which are caused by the mind: i.e. negative thinking, imagination. Those types of illnesses can in fact be helped by positive thinking. But there are very few of these, mostly belonging to the hypochondriac and nervous persons. In other words, ONLY those diseases caused by negative thinking can be cured by positive thinking. All other diseases cannot be corrected by positive thinking, because that is not the origin of them. The origin of disease is on a much deeper level than our thinking.

Hahnemann talked about what we call nature vs nurture. Mental and emotional diseases are of two kinds. There are those which are the result of things such as bad upbringing, prolonged stress, perverted morals, lack of mental discipline (these are nurture). And then there are those which have their root in something much deeper (nature), which are basically miasmic in origin. Hahnemann wrote that emotional diseases which were acquired solely through 'nurture' can be fixed through consolation, rational explanations, arguments, counseling, positive thinking, awareness. Whereas those that had their origins in heredity/miasms, would only continue to get worse with all such treatments. (Paragraph 224 in the Organon.)
So if a person had a rough childhood which resulted in fears, depression, etc. then a well-intentioned therapy would help to alleviate the suffering. But if a person was born with a miasmic predisposition toward anxiety, obsessive compulsive disorder, mania, heart disease, etc. then no amount of pointing it out or talking about it, or working on it in any way will make things better. Most people with problems become aware of them at certain point in their lives, but they cannot change it by their free will no matter how much they try. That’s why positive thinking will not work for everyone; it will work only for problems that have their sole origin in life situations (without a miasmic predisposition).

P.S. Excellent posts, Rajivprasad! You're a very deep thinker. It's great.
 
starnet last decade
Dear Jacob,

I am one with you when it comes to the gist of it all, when all is said and done.Our spiritual awareness or lack of it is reflected in what we do.Action summarizes all the different facets of our current state of 'Being' or 'Inner mental/emotional/spiritual state'.It is through what we do that we tell the universe who we are.Let me know when your initiative for change takes off the ground as i would like to join you in that project.

Regards,

Rajiv

P.S. to Dr. Sbahl,

I hope you won't mind my addressing you because your posts were aimed at 11:11.But i thought i would share this with you.I have read a book called 'The Power of Now' written by Eckhart Tolle, which i found to be very useful to point one towards a number of useful methods or techniques to get in touch with the present moment without any preconceived notions, conditionings,hopes, desires or wishes.I myself practice some of the methods suggested by him and have found them to be very useful in remaining centered or to regain it when have lost it in the hurly-byurly of daily life.Perhaps you may like to read it.

Rajiv
 
rajivprasad last decade
Dear Starnet,

Thanks for your kind words.I definitely agree with you in your analysis of illness.Miasmatically rooted illnesses would need homeopathic treatment.In fact, in my experience a systematic homeopathic treatment makes a person kinder, more sympathetic towards others and more in touch with reality.That is why i keep on trying to spread homeopathy among all the people whose lives i touch.Internet is a wonderful tool to help in this effort.

With best wishes,

Rajiv
 
rajivprasad last decade
Jacob, you said:

'In my opinion, the real test of spirituality is getting out there and making changes with what you have learned, not talking about it or analyzing it after the fact.'

Agreed! Live what you believe. Not doing so causes a disconnect (and stress).

As for Steve's death, well, nobody gets out of here alive, as they say. He died fully involved in what he loved. I can think of way worse ways to to go.

Regarding the point of possitive thinking - honestly, I think the phrase is too simplistic. The concept of form following thought, or thoughts creating reality, is very heavy stuff. In no way do I claim to have a grasp on the implimentaion of this. I, do, however, believe it's true, in a very profound sense. By this, I mean that physical reality is the reflection of internal worlds. No thing exists that is not first an idea. While I do not claim to have mastered my own understanding of doing this in my own life, I disagree that thought is not the ORIGINAL source of illness. There have been many books written on this very subject. One, in particular, Love, Medicine, and Miracles, is about cancer patients, and the direct correlation of attitude to recovery. There seems to be a relationship between melancholy and cancer.

There are many things we (the human race and science) do not comprehend about the mind. Having said that, if someone really believes that radiation is a positive experience, they have a very high likelihood of being cured. This is noted in the book I mentioned. If fear is a big factor, the pobablity of not recovering is far greater. If someone believes they are going to die, then that belief is the biggest factor, and nobody will cure them.

I remeber in The Nature of Personal Reality, Seth talked about how powerful belief sytems and paradigms are in recovering from illness. If someone believes in western medicene, he said, then they should follow that route. Look at Lance Armstrong. He is the poster boy for chemotherapy, something probably most of us would be fearful of and see as poison. But, he didn't see it that way, and it worked for him.

In any event, I love the discussion, even when there is disagreement. The nature of relaity and creation is endlessly fascinating, and I thank everyone for the opportunity to discuss it and share ideas. Very stimulating!
 
11:11 last decade
Thanks a lot Rajiv, I will certainly like to go through' The power of now' by Eckhart Tolle.
 
sbahl last decade
I have never met a single person who healed his chronic diseases through radiating positive energy alone. However, I have met thousands of people who mask their real feelings behind a positive mask...

I, too, used to believe that a person can create absolutely anything in his reality. But it's not so. There are miasmic blocks in all of us. There are as many happy people falling ill, as there all malancholic ones. It is all about their miasmic predispositions. And homeopathy is able to address that; and thus heal both their body and mind.

When we say that there's a link between depression and cancer, we make the mistake of assuming it's a causative link; whereas it's just a correlation. In truth, there's a third invisible factor at play, which is the real cause: miasms. The underlying miasm is what caused that depressiong in the fist place, and is also what ultimately caused cancer or any other chronic disease. I would recommend 'Chronic Diseases' by Hahnemann.
 
starnet last decade
Dear Rajiv, good to hear, and I agree with your futher elaborations. I will certainly let you know when the Org gets off the ground :)

11:11. I too believe this is the case. In my opinion everything that is manifest, and therefore which happens in the world is the product of our thought processes and will, so yes, absolutely, physical reality is indeed the reflection (I would actually say manifestation) of internal worlds. Thought though is not the cause of illness, this is an oversimplified explanation, we must go one step deeper. Miasms are the cause of illness, because they shape our individual personalities, and therefore actually GOVERN the way in which we think. Yes, some of us are able to think in a certain way/supress our negative tendencies by using concious and deliberate effort, but sooner or later we will always revert back to the thought processes which we are genetically programme to follow. Taking an example (I will not use the one given, as Cancer is not a miasm), but let's say a patient has M.S. This is a product of a chronic Miasm, and yes, there have been some recorded cases of this condition going into complete remission using positive thought, diet, etc etc, but these do not cure the underlying Miasm which is responsible for the complaint, and therefore, invariably it will return. As another example, certain other chronic illnesses may even seem to completly dissapear under such corporeal measures, but if they do not return in their original form, they will always become manifest as something else at some point, because the underlying chronic Miasm which is the cause of both, has not been eradicated. So no, MIASM's are the cause of disease, not just thought, and therefore thought processes alone will neither cure nor prevent them, unless this is actually changed by Miasmatic eradication.

As Rajiv put it 'in my experience a systematic homeopathic treatment makes a person kinder, more sympathetic towards others and more in touch with reality'

This is the deeper purpose of Homoeopathy, the very reason I am a Homoeopath, and the object of my work.

I would suggest reading up on the work of James Tyler Kent, who was actually the first Homoeopath to recognize this intrinsic truth, and actually, alongside Emanuel Swedenborg formed a religious movement of Homoeopaths with this truth as it's theme.
He is also one of only two people, the other being Hahnemann himself, who I actually consider to have come the very closest to ABSOLUTE truth, and to be both my spiritual and intellectual peers. This is why I do not follow the words of Guru's and swamis etc, or even other Homoeopaths for that matter, as meither have even come close to reaching this point of realisation, and level of understanding.


-Jacob.
 
JCS2006 last decade
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JCS2006 last decade
Kent's writing is excellent. Here's a link where anyone can read his 'Lectures on Homoeopathic Philosophy' for free: http://homeoint.org/books3/kentlect/index.htm
 
starnet last decade
Hey, everyone, I sure appreciate all of the discussion. Though I remain a believer in the reality is created from thought principal, I haven't mastered it! I most definitely am wanting to use homeopathy for all of what ails me. Ya know, it could well be that when we create, we make 'agreements' about the laws of the reality we inhabit, thereby subjecting ourselves to the things you mention - miasms. Where is the best place for me to read about miasms? starnet, I saw your link, and I'll look there (dunno if that goes into the miasms?).

So, back to inspiration. I was reading the thread on treating staph infections, and all of the various advice and experience everyone was relating. My inspirational thought is how wonderful Nature is. I actually think that Nature provides cures from many sources. Be it homeopathy, to rainforest plants, to herbs. We are existing in the realm of Nature, and Nature is abundant. GOD bless our beautiful Mother Earth.
 
11:11 last decade
Hi 11:11. That's what's great about homeopathy: its remedies are from many sources; be they from the mineral, plant or animal kingdom.. You can make a remedy out of pretty much anything. Everything and everyone is connected. And I think we each resonnate with different substances, which in turn are able to cure us in potency.
 
starnet last decade
Today, for inspiration, I leave one of my favorite quotes for all to ponder:

'Evidence of evil in the world apperars to our senses, in order to let us know the consequences of the beliefs we hold.'
 
11:11 last decade

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