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Need a remedy for Lower back pain and stiffness and occassional cramp in calf
Hi there, I am trying to help a friend who has a back problem. He complains of being very stiff and has always been that way, he describes it as painful. After a minor motorcycle accident 1yr ago he now complains of very bad sharp,shooting pains when standing from sitting and from lying still for too long. He finds no relief from medication. gentle movement seems to loosen him up and feel somewhat better, but he says he can't keep moving constantly.He also gets an occassional involuntary severe cramp (when he wakes) in his right calf muscle which is very bothersome and painful. This is only occassional the back stiffness, pain and JOLTS (as he calls them) in his back is bothersome daily to one degree or another.
If anyone has any suggestions I/he would appreciate it very much.
Thanks
justagirl on 2004-10-26
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Hello justagirl,
Does he take any medication now?
is any time of the day/weather/season better/worse for his back?
is he a chiily or warm person/?What angers him most? What is his sleep/appetite/thirst?does he crave anything/has aversion to smth?
His cramp-anything makes it better? when does it happen?
did he see a chiropractor-had his spine x-rayed?
Does he take any medication now?
is any time of the day/weather/season better/worse for his back?
is he a chiily or warm person/?What angers him most? What is his sleep/appetite/thirst?does he crave anything/has aversion to smth?
His cramp-anything makes it better? when does it happen?
did he see a chiropractor-had his spine x-rayed?
Astra2012 last decade
chiropractic consolation is correct thinking astra--can treat before and after--but still chiropratic important-
♡ John Stanton last decade
Hello justagirl,
Do you mean he feels that pain despite taking pain-killers or when he will not take them? How long do drs believe he should take this drug? For the rest of his life?
In homeopathy for painful spinal injures we use HYPERICUM PERFORATUM (our pain killer), 12C is a good potency for that.Get (in the us Evian is perfect) 500ml of pure water, pour away about 1/4 of the bottle. Dissolve one dose of hypericum in the remaining 3/4 water and shake well until the pellets dissolve. Succusse 10 times (pound the bottom of the bottle into opposite palm) and take 1-3 teaspoons WHENEVER NEEDED.Important is to succusse before taking it and not to take it when it is not needed.
And meanwhile we may try to find his more constitutional remedy.
for that we need to ask many weird questions
like:
about his back
1. stifness-was it always the same or sometimes better/worse? did it start at certain point in his life?when?
2. pain-I know how it started and about rest/motion but what about hot/cold compresses-any help? Dry or moist?
about the cramp-see #1
about him: thirst is normal, right? does he have any other symptoms/sensations? is he rather shy or irritable? does he like crowd, parties, company or would he rather be alone? Always in a hurry or rather slow? likes his chicken spicy or salty or just about any way?
What angers him most?
You have some questioning to do!
Kent said that hypericum acts better than morphine!
John: please PLEASE do not patronize me- I know now that you don't mean anything bad, it is your way of helping, but please do not do that.Thanks.
Do you mean he feels that pain despite taking pain-killers or when he will not take them? How long do drs believe he should take this drug? For the rest of his life?
In homeopathy for painful spinal injures we use HYPERICUM PERFORATUM (our pain killer), 12C is a good potency for that.Get (in the us Evian is perfect) 500ml of pure water, pour away about 1/4 of the bottle. Dissolve one dose of hypericum in the remaining 3/4 water and shake well until the pellets dissolve. Succusse 10 times (pound the bottom of the bottle into opposite palm) and take 1-3 teaspoons WHENEVER NEEDED.Important is to succusse before taking it and not to take it when it is not needed.
And meanwhile we may try to find his more constitutional remedy.
for that we need to ask many weird questions
like:
about his back
1. stifness-was it always the same or sometimes better/worse? did it start at certain point in his life?when?
2. pain-I know how it started and about rest/motion but what about hot/cold compresses-any help? Dry or moist?
about the cramp-see #1
about him: thirst is normal, right? does he have any other symptoms/sensations? is he rather shy or irritable? does he like crowd, parties, company or would he rather be alone? Always in a hurry or rather slow? likes his chicken spicy or salty or just about any way?
What angers him most?
You have some questioning to do!
Kent said that hypericum acts better than morphine!
John: please PLEASE do not patronize me- I know now that you don't mean anything bad, it is your way of helping, but please do not do that.Thanks.
Astra2012 last decade
Hello justagirl,
Do you mean he feels that pain despite taking pain-killers or when he will not take them? How long do drs believe he should take this drug? For the rest of his life?
In homeopathy for painful spinal injures we use HYPERICUM PERFORATUM (our pain killer), 12C is a good potency for that.Get (in the us Evian is perfect) 500ml of pure water, pour away about 1/4 of the bottle. Dissolve one dose of hypericum in the remaining 3/4 water and shake well until the pellets dissolve. Succusse 10 times (pound the bottom of the bottle into opposite palm) and take 1-3 teaspoons WHENEVER NEEDED.Important is to succusse before taking it and not to take it when it is not needed.
And meanwhile we may try to find his more constitutional remedy.
for that we need to ask many weird questions
like:
about his back
1. stifness-was it always the same or sometimes better/worse? did it start at certain point in his life?when?
2. pain-I know how it started and about rest/motion but what about hot/cold compresses-any help? Dry or moist?
about the cramp-see #1
about him: thirst is normal, right? does he have any other symptoms/sensations? is he rather shy or irritable? does he like crowd, parties, company or would he rather be alone? Always in a hurry or rather slow? likes his chicken spicy or salty or just about any way?
What angers him most?
You have some questioning to do!
Kent said that hypericum acts better than morphine!
John: please PLEASE do not patronize me- I know now that you don't mean anything bad, it is your way of helping, but please do not do that.Thanks.
Do you mean he feels that pain despite taking pain-killers or when he will not take them? How long do drs believe he should take this drug? For the rest of his life?
In homeopathy for painful spinal injures we use HYPERICUM PERFORATUM (our pain killer), 12C is a good potency for that.Get (in the us Evian is perfect) 500ml of pure water, pour away about 1/4 of the bottle. Dissolve one dose of hypericum in the remaining 3/4 water and shake well until the pellets dissolve. Succusse 10 times (pound the bottom of the bottle into opposite palm) and take 1-3 teaspoons WHENEVER NEEDED.Important is to succusse before taking it and not to take it when it is not needed.
And meanwhile we may try to find his more constitutional remedy.
for that we need to ask many weird questions
like:
about his back
1. stifness-was it always the same or sometimes better/worse? did it start at certain point in his life?when?
2. pain-I know how it started and about rest/motion but what about hot/cold compresses-any help? Dry or moist?
about the cramp-see #1
about him: thirst is normal, right? does he have any other symptoms/sensations? is he rather shy or irritable? does he like crowd, parties, company or would he rather be alone? Always in a hurry or rather slow? likes his chicken spicy or salty or just about any way?
What angers him most?
You have some questioning to do!
Kent said that hypericum acts better than morphine!
John: please PLEASE do not patronize me- I know now that you don't mean anything bad, it is your way of helping, but please do not do that.Thanks.
Astra2012 last decade
hypericum is for wounds to the nerves. Should help.
If he doesn't want to "commit" to water he may take the first dose of hypericum dry (see the discussion under "coffee doesn't antidote in all cases") - but the next dose should be a bit changed.
Happy questioning!
If he doesn't want to "commit" to water he may take the first dose of hypericum dry (see the discussion under "coffee doesn't antidote in all cases") - but the next dose should be a bit changed.
Happy questioning!
Astra2012 last decade
astra --would not think of patronizing you after reading your response concerning murthy at other forum (innerehealer---'help wife please')post--your true colors revealed--
♡ John Stanton last decade
chocolate is fine. Whatever you did before (taking remedy)and in moderation is fine.
It's Rhus toxicodendron - and it is one of the remedies I considered for him as it is better with movement! (but it is not the only one like that)
the pain comes/goes suddenly or gradually? is he still taking the pain killer?
It's Rhus toxicodendron - and it is one of the remedies I considered for him as it is better with movement! (but it is not the only one like that)
the pain comes/goes suddenly or gradually? is he still taking the pain killer?
Astra2012 last decade
Hello justagirl,
Before any deeper-acting (constitutional) remedy can be prescribed he should not take any allopathic remedy-now we can't know which symptoms are caused by the drug and which result from dearranged vital force.
Meanwhile the only way is to prescribe on pathology i.e. on the symptom and its modalities (better/worse).
The top remedies in this case are RHUS-TOX (yes, what do we know!) and CALCAREA FLUORICA.
My advice is that
1.he takes Rhus-tox 200c in water-plussing method described earlier for hypericum-btw: if he was taking hyp. he should stop before rhus.
the reason why plussing method and not just single dry dose: because he takes that drug and may antidote rhus
any time he feels the stiffnesss coming he should SUCCUSSE and take some rhus solution
hopefully the jolts will be less and less frequent - less and less strong. until finally they stop.
Rhus back pain is caused by straining, overlifting, sudden cooling of the body, but also injuries. We'll see-if it will not help (after 3-4 weeks we will know for sure)we'll have to find something else
2. I didn't want just to cross out calc-fl., besides calcareas are good for cramps and I think that's what bothers him: some of his back muscles go into spasm=he becomes stiff, and now additionally the nerve may get pinched (his jolts of pain)
In other words: he is crampy and his leg is a hint.
So I think it is a good idea that besides rhus he also takes Hyland's 12-in-1 tissue salts 3 x day (at least an hour from rhus, which is taken when needed)
such preparation is ok:
http://store.yahoo.com/smartbomb/hl855262.html
Hopefully it will work!
Before any deeper-acting (constitutional) remedy can be prescribed he should not take any allopathic remedy-now we can't know which symptoms are caused by the drug and which result from dearranged vital force.
Meanwhile the only way is to prescribe on pathology i.e. on the symptom and its modalities (better/worse).
The top remedies in this case are RHUS-TOX (yes, what do we know!) and CALCAREA FLUORICA.
My advice is that
1.he takes Rhus-tox 200c in water-plussing method described earlier for hypericum-btw: if he was taking hyp. he should stop before rhus.
the reason why plussing method and not just single dry dose: because he takes that drug and may antidote rhus
any time he feels the stiffnesss coming he should SUCCUSSE and take some rhus solution
hopefully the jolts will be less and less frequent - less and less strong. until finally they stop.
Rhus back pain is caused by straining, overlifting, sudden cooling of the body, but also injuries. We'll see-if it will not help (after 3-4 weeks we will know for sure)we'll have to find something else
2. I didn't want just to cross out calc-fl., besides calcareas are good for cramps and I think that's what bothers him: some of his back muscles go into spasm=he becomes stiff, and now additionally the nerve may get pinched (his jolts of pain)
In other words: he is crampy and his leg is a hint.
So I think it is a good idea that besides rhus he also takes Hyland's 12-in-1 tissue salts 3 x day (at least an hour from rhus, which is taken when needed)
such preparation is ok:
http://store.yahoo.com/smartbomb/hl855262.html
Hopefully it will work!
Astra2012 last decade
For some reason I assumed you are in the us. Hyland is in the us but in uk you can get something simiar from HELIOS.
Astra2012 last decade
After Rhustox your friend may need causticum.If you are ordering Rhustox,better order that also.30 or 200 is ok.
bandarbabu2000 last decade
Hello Murthy- yes, in my analysis causticum was right behind-also back pain better with movement and warmth -but causticum feels better in humid weather-not in fine and clear-and we don't know that.
Astra2012 last decade
Astra
I suggested to get causticum also,just in case required later.I understand it takes almost a week for you people to get medicines.
Murthy
I suggested to get causticum also,just in case required later.I understand it takes almost a week for you people to get medicines.
Murthy
bandarbabu2000 last decade
Yeah, when you order on the Internet (I hate the shipping charges though when you order one remedy!)
In the "health store" here (in PA, usa) they have some remedies (Boiron's only) in 30c.
In the "health store" here (in PA, usa) they have some remedies (Boiron's only) in 30c.
Astra2012 last decade
No..no.
Don't take them together.
First try Rhustox as suggested by Astra.
We will see later if Causticum is required.
Never take two medicines together.
however,he can take calc-fl one hour after rhus-tox as suggested by Astra.
This is like a vitamin,and won't interfere with the rhus-tox.
if you are still not clear,don't hesitate to ask again.
Murthy
Don't take them together.
First try Rhustox as suggested by Astra.
We will see later if Causticum is required.
Never take two medicines together.
however,he can take calc-fl one hour after rhus-tox as suggested by Astra.
This is like a vitamin,and won't interfere with the rhus-tox.
if you are still not clear,don't hesitate to ask again.
Murthy
bandarbabu2000 last decade
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