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Gall stones

I have spent a night in agony and the doctor has said gallstones. I am booked in for a scan but would like to sort myself out homeopathically if I can. No jaundice as yet. Any suggestions?
  Nicola on 2003-09-18
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BERBERIS VULGARIS Q (Mother tincture)


TAKE Dr. RECKEWEG's Drops for Gall Stones. (This also contains BERBERIS VUL. along with other medicines).

WILMAR SCHAWBE too have a combination medicine for Gall stones.

You can choose.

PANKAJ VARMA last decade
percocet is about the oly thing for pain
kim last decade
take cholestrinum / 30 c for a long time with ultra sound every three months
If there is inflamation of gall duct, phos /30c should do the trick
or following from a great homeopath
Gall Stone, to remove
or this priscription from a great homeopath
Olive Oil is a proved cure for gallstones.

It should be taken half a pint daily. Take a drink of oil and follow immediately with a drink of lemon juice. After three or four minutes take more oil and follow it up by more lemon juice. Continue and finish up with lemon juice.

The lemon juice helps in digesting the oil and prevents sickness. The treatment is said to result in passing of stone in one day, but in some instances the treatment may have to be repeated for two to three days.
(Extract from ‘select your remedies’ by Rai Bahadur Bishambar Das)

Note :-
A pint is equal to = 35 Cu. In. = 562.26 CC
The Standard mineral water bottle is of one liter = 1,000 CC., ½ bottle is approx. equal to one pint.
¼ bottle of standard one-liter mineral water is approximately equal to ½ pint

Aziz A. Qureshi
727-W, D.H.A
Lahore cantt. Pakistan
Aziz last decade
take chelidonium 30,globules4
two times a day for tree months after bensuring by ultrasone regarding no.of stones position.i have taken after careful reading with my doc.advise. cured. other two remedies suggested are good,
ssj last decade
I have a question to PANKAJ VARMA. How frequently should Berberis Vul.Q be used, like once in a day or twice or what?

tariq_a last decade
My earlier post was made in Sept. 2003.

I have noticed better results with Berberis Vulgaris 30C ...since then.

Take three doses in a gap of half hour on day one.

Repeat this every fourth day....until the first traces of th stone begin to come out (in the form of gravel) in the urine.

If you don't see results in 3 weeks...medicine will have to be changed.

Ber. Vul. also reduces the pain due to the presence of the stone in the system.

Pankaj Varma
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Some important symptoms of Berberis Vulgaris:

1. Pain in the back at the height of arm pits and little lower.
2.Feeling of chill along the spine.
3. Left nostril blocked
4. Headaches
5. Difficulty in voiding urine.

There is another thread on this subject where (I think) Dr. Sajid Mehmood has said that if the test reports show stones of Oxalates ...then Berberis Vul. will definately help.
Pl. locate that thread also and see other posts there.

Pankaj Varma
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Logging in to observe progress.
Joe De Livera last decade
Dear Pankaj and Nicola

For oxalate stones, I'll put my weight for the combination of tissue salts Kali phos 6x+Silicea 6x continued for a week skipping next week(likewise on and off)for a couple of months. Safe and effective.
maheeru last decade
colesterinum 3x gives much better results then 30c
for pain:
if radiating and is better by sitting erect : dioscorea 200

if pain is better by bending double: colocynth 6 c does wonders.

if u have obstruction in bile duct : fel tauri 30

best of luck

monachand last decade
After the stones are gone, to prevent recurrence, one should correct the chemical composition of bile liquid. Kali bich or Lyc or Nat. sulph will have to be given according to indications. Then most probably that's the end for gall stones in that person.
maheeru last decade
This is from another thread.
See Dr. Mehmoods suggestion at the bottom......

Re: calculus in ureter From PANKAJ VARMA on 2006-11-05
Just about 10 days back I gave Berberis Vul.30c ...3 doses in a gap of 1/2 hour each to a patient who's ultrasound report had shown a stone in the bladder area.

After 5 days ...he saw some gravel pcs in the urine.

On the 7th day ...he went for an operation to AIIMS....after 2 hours in the operation room they sent him back...saying: cannot locate the stone. (Even I was surprised).

On his return ...I gave one more dose of Berberis Vul. 30C to him.

Today I got a phone call saying more gravel was there in the urine.

I hope this will give you an idea about the speed at which Berberis Vulgaris works.

The patient is 75 years of age.

Pankaj Varma

Re: calculus in ureter From dr mehmood on 2006-11-05
These days it is a standard practice to use Berbaris Vulgaris for all calcium oxalate or stone hardened growths.
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Oxalate stones those dont respond to Berberis respond to the above mentioned tissue salts.
maheeru last decade
Correction please. (Sajjad Bhai Thank you).

Gall stones will pass into the intestines and will be expelled with the stool.
What and where is the gall bladder?

The gall bladder is a small pear-shaped organ on the underside of the liver that is used to store bile. Bile is made in the liver and is stored in the gall bladder until it is needed to help the digestion of fat.

What is gallbladder disease?

Gallbladder disease is a common condition that affects mainly women, although men can suffer too.

The symptoms vary widely from discomfort to severe pain which mainly begins after food. In severe cases the patient can suffer from jaundice, nausea and fever. The most common reason for gallbladder disease is gallstones.

What are gallstones?

Gallstones are solid stones formed in the gall bladder from cholesterol, bile salts and calcium. They can vary in size from a few millimetres to a few centimetres.

What causes gallstones?

Gallstones are formed when bile contains too much cholesterol. The excess cholesterol forms crystals from which gallstones are made.

Who is at risk of developing gallstones?

Gallstones are seen in all age groups but they are rare in the young. The possibility of developing gallstones increases with age. The following groups are considered to be at increased risk:

people who have relatives with gallstones.

obese people.

people with a high blood cholesterol level.

women who take drugs containing oestrogen, eg contraceptive pills.

people with diseases such as chronic intestinal inflammation (Crohn's disease and ulcerative colitis).

What are the symptoms of gallstones?

It is thought that approximately two thirds of patients will have no trouble at all from their gallstones and only one third of patients will at some time experience symptoms. These symptoms can be extremely variable but usually present in one of three ways.

Chronic cholecystitis (biliary colic)

This is a chronic inflammation of the gall bladder and causes:

sporadic pains in the middle of the upper abdomen, or just below the ribs on the right side.

pain which becomes worse over an hour and then stays the same.

the pain may spread to the right shoulder or between the shoulder blades.

the pain can be accompanied by nausea and vomiting and sometimes excessive wind.

the attack can last from a few minutes to two to three hours before getting better.

the frequency and severity of attacks is very variable.

attacks can be triggered by eating fatty foods such as chocolate, cheese or pastry.

it can be difficult to distinguish the pain from other diseases, such as: gastric ulcer, back problems, heart pains, pneumonia and kidney stones.

Acute cholecystitis (acute inflammation or infection of the gall bladder)

Pankaj Varma
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Advise of Mona Chand is also good.

1. Berberis Vul.30C
2. Colesterinum 3X
3. Fel Tauri 3X

Are specifics for expelling Gall Stones...as per my knowledge.

I haven't tried Maheeru's suggestions....so cannot say.
They could be good...He is so sure about it.

Pankaj Varma
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Hello Tariq,

Since you brought up this thread again for the Archives for advice...please inform us:

In your case the stones have been found in the Gall Bladder or in the Urinary Tract. (There is no mention of it in your post).

Pankaj Varma
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
Hi Pankaj Varma,
Thanks for reply, In infact one of my female co-workers has stones in gall bladder. She has many symptoms indicated by u like pain in the back at the height of arm pits and little lower, nostril blocked and headaches. I hope that the treatments indicated shall be of great help!
tariq_a last decade
similar remedy

single remedy

minimum dose

is proper homeopathy.

read the article on pseudo homeopathy.

gavinimurthy last decade
Try Berb.first.

gavinimurthy last decade
I am little puzzled reading the posts.

The Doctor of patient has suspected Gallstones but everybody is writing about renal stones.

Oxalate stone is found in kidney and not in gallbladder.

And furthermore Berberis has more action on Renal Stone than Gall Stone.
drprodip last decade
Dear drprodip,

The clarification has come from Tariq after some posts had been made already.
He posted his query on a thread from the archives....withot giving details.

Berberis is effective in cases of Gall Stones also ...provided symptoms match with drug picture.

Also see my earlier post giving names of three meds.

Your contribution is appreciated.

Pankaj Varma
PANKAJ VARMA last decade
This is from Murphy:


I gave only grade 3 medicines. There are many more.

radiating pains,with : berb(2),chel(1)

this is the differentiating factor.



Again I gave only grade 3 medicines.

Colic,pain from stones:All the above, except urt-u.Berb. is grade 2.All others grade 3.


Despite getting trained in homeopathy, we tend to think in an allopathic way, and tend to differentiate the medicines by the location of the stones.

Homeopathy need not know, where the stones are located.

As Pankaj, rightly pointed out, the similiarity of the medicine to the signs and symptoms, should be the sole guide for a homeopath.

The very reason, why lay homeopaths too can practice homeopathy, is this.

Except in some complicated cases, where knowledge of pathology is important, they can out shine those formally trained BHMS degree holders, who tend to be lazy, and doesn't read further, after their graduation.

What I observe, normally, is the lay homeopath learns the subject, more dedicatedly, as he is aware of his limitations.

gavinimurthy last decade
Just an input:

Berberis Q works good for gallstones and 30 potency works good for renal stones to my knowledge.
maheeru last decade

Oxalate stones are produced in Kidney.

Also the above tissue salt combination for oxalate stones should read:

Silicea 6X+ Calc. Fluor 6X.

Silicea is more important component of the protocol to help expel oxalate stones.

(Apologies for the slip up).
maheeru last decade
What causes gallstones?
Bile is made up of water, cholesterol and other fats, bile salts and a pigment called bilirubin.

Gallstones form when the usual balance of these substances is upset.

There are two basic types of gallstones:

Cholesterol gallstones are the most common, accounting for about 80% of cases. These are formed when there is too much bilirubin or cholesterol in the bile, or not enough bile salts. They may also occur when the gallbladder does not empty as it should. Cholesterol gallstones are usually yellowish green.

Pigment stones are small and dark and made of bilirubin. Their cause is uncertain although they tend to develop in people who suffer from liver disease, bile tract infections or hereditary blood disorders such as sickle-cell anaemia.
PANKAJ VARMA last decade

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